Knox H.S. football players charged with burglary
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Business break ins bring 15-counts
Posted: 6:31 PM Oct 2, 2008
Last Updated: 6:55 PM Oct 2, 2008
Reporter: Mark Peterson
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Two star players on the Knox High School football team have been arrested for their alleged involvement in a rash of business burglaries.

In all, 15-burglary counts have been filed against four Knox High School students in juvenile court.

The charges stem from burglaries at four separate businesses dating back to February 17th of this year.

If the cases were waived to adult court, each count would be classified as a class “C” felony, and each would be punishable by a maximum of eight years in prison.

News cameras were often there on the field to catch Knox High School football stars Blake McCan and teammate Kenneth Flores at their best.

Now security cameras have allegedly caught both at their worst.

Security camera footage shows two men in hooded sweatshirts breaking in the back door of the Sandbar at Bass Lake on May 30th, 2008.

The video shows the pair stealing beer by the keg and case. It also shows the men wrestling with—and removing a safe from the back office of the bar.

In court documents witnesses identify the subjects in the video as McCan and Flores.

“The first time they were here, they were here for two hours,” said the owner of the Sandbar, John Lewandowski. “They came in between three and five in the morning, over the summer.”

Lewandowski says the bar has been broken into five times over the summer, and that he and other business owners have paid a price.

Lewandowski claims his insurance premiums have increased by 22-hundred dollars, and that insurance did not cover more than 10-thousand dollars in stolen cash.

Lewandowski now hopes that the students will pay a price as well.

“I think they should be detained, they should face criminal charges just like any other adult should and they shouldn’t receive any preferential treatment because they’re athletes,” said Lewandowski.

The case was filed in juvenile court and remained there today. On Monday of this week all four defendants were released on home detention.

“Supposedly, they’re not bad kids,” said Lewandowski. “They’re football stars and one of them I think is a straight A student…”

But after reviewing the footage from his security cameras, Lewandowski says he hoped officials would realize that “these kids are crooks.”

It was apparently the theft and resale of a 50-inch Panasonic flat screen T.V. that broke the case.

The new owner figured out the set was stolen and he notified police, according to court documents.

The Knox Community School system would not comment on the status of the defendants as students or athletes due to privacy concerns.

Other sources indicate that the teens are back in school but aren’t expected to play football Friday night.

In addition to Flores and McCan, court documents indicate that 16-year old Dominic White has been charged in connection with the case. White faces three counts of burglary. 16 year old Ethan Coad faces two counts of burglary.

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Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on May 14, 2009 at 02:06 PM
Ha! Ok Jessica Hopper... And it's "their" in that context.

Posted by: jessica hopper Location: knox on Apr 22, 2009 at 10:14 AM
the boys got charged with enough and people just need to shut there mouth about it because its done and over with.!.

Posted by: Tom Location: Knox on Mar 17, 2009 at 03:15 PM
the bar owner didnt even have the safe locked.. one of the boys told me this, they just took the money and left.. bar owners mistake..

Posted by: jim Location: knox on Mar 17, 2009 at 03:11 PM
i go to school with all of them and they have been charged just fine and are serving the right punishment..

Posted by: North Judson parent Location: North Judson on Dec 12, 2008 at 05:42 PM
Does anyone know what the sentences were?

Posted by: Ronald Location: Hamlet on Dec 11, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Justice! Justice! Justice!

Posted by: Knox23 Location: Knox on Dec 11, 2008 at 05:59 PM
What was the outcome in court today?

Posted by: Robert Location: bass lake on Dec 11, 2008 at 03:59 PM
Looks like the jokes on you. I heard that the judge sent them off.

Posted by: lol at kim hall Location: knox on Dec 8, 2008 at 08:42 PM
what a joke maybe they will rob and steel more ..they learned nothing by letting them off ..(all Knox Teens judge Hall says its ok the rob and steel)

Posted by: J henricrotch on Nov 30, 2008 at 11:40 PM
I'z don't know becuz thees peepols in knox are too stupid tu know the difference between wrong or right. Typically uneducated inbred individuals who live around bass lake cannot process information if it involves digesting information beyond 50 words or more. It's because they went to Knox high school.

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM
2 of the kids have been confirmed as responsible for the burglaries at a liquor store in Culver in June. I'm not sure which 2, but it's getting worse.

Posted by: a local Location: knox on Nov 9, 2008 at 10:21 PM
To the Knox student that seems to know so much about the illegal activities of these boys..HOW do you know?? There are crimes that these boys have committed (and they are being charged with)that involved OTHER high school boys that have YET to be picked up. I have learned of this in the past few weeks and have been waiting for those names to appear in the local papers. It sure would be nice to see our tax dollars at work and see some actual progress in this case.

Posted by: Knox student Location: knox on Nov 8, 2008 at 11:51 PM
I go to school with these boys and they have done a lot more than they have been charged with... They need to get charged as adults and should be punished to the furthest exctent.

Posted by: Russell Location: Knox on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:28 AM
SandBar is real busy anyway so I do not think mentioning the name on this blog is helping it any. It is just like any other bar but everyone loves going there. It sounds like a few are jealous from other bars and that is expected but do you have to make up lies also? Either way I am sure my opinion will not matter to you since you hide behind a screen and type out some frustration on your computer. Do what you do and say what you say but I will party at the Sandbar anyway!

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 29, 2008 at 04:37 PM
More baseless accusations against the Sandbar. Keep trying to deflect the attention off of the kids that BURGLARIZED REPEATEDLY. I hate to tell you, you guys are only helping their business by continuing to bring their name up.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Knox on Oct 29, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I agree. The boys need to be punished for what they did. They are old enough to know that burglary is wrong, especially so many repeated crimes. I also think it is hilarious that the Sandbar has started carding underage kids now. They should be held responsible for letting numerous underage kids in there. They are a disgrace to the county. Also, the drugs in there is unreal. I have a 21 year old daughter and I forbid her to go in there. It is a scary place with all the fighting at nights, the binge drinking, and the drugs. I am embarrassed to say that they are still open.

Posted by: Truth! Location: North Judson on Oct 27, 2008 at 05:04 PM
How sad is it when a struggling business like the rt 10 jumps on a blog to get some needed attention. That place was near empty Saturday ( like usual ) and the other Bars had plenty of business. Look in the mirror with shame because you turned a possible gold mine into a morgue! Get off the blog and quite asking the few customers you have to get on here and write nice things on your behalf. We can make up our own minds if we want to spend any money at your bar. Don't beg on the blog because it makes you look desperate! After everyone gets a Great meal at the Wooden Nickel this weekend lets have a moment of silence for the lost souls that run the rt 10. They won't mind cause they are used to a lot of silence in the that bar! LOL I'm heading to the Nickel to cheer on the Ladies Pool team. Speaking of ladies Pool why don't the rt 10 have a ladies team? Nobody signed up there would be my guess.

Posted by: Blue Jay Location: North Judson on Oct 26, 2008 at 06:56 PM
Ok DUH, I will bring the blog back on topic just for you. People do all different types of activities in order to get money. Some people spend all day working in factories; others sit in offices all day long. Some people operate small business; others break into small business and sell what they steal. I try to never judge a person based on what they do for a living. But certain activities carry a price that you must be willing to pay if you are caught. When you are 17 years old you are old enough to drive a car, have a job, consent to sex, have a child, get married, serve in the military (ok, the last couple may also require parental consent), and do many other activities that are considered adult in nature. If you are mature enough to make those types of adult decisions, then you are mature enough to stand trial as an adult when you are accused of a crime. And with that I am out the door. All my blather has made me hungry for an Italian Beef from Brantwood.

Posted by: DUH! on Oct 26, 2008 at 12:42 PM
This blog isn't about Route 10. Amazing how someone wanted to take some heat off of them and put it on Route 10. This isn't a social chat room, this is a blog where the subject matter is about the boys that did terrible things and the questionable antics of the locations that were robbed. Keep to the subject, or maybe we can rename this blog, something like......a place where girls can act like women or boys can pretend to be men.

Posted by: Lee Location: North Judson on Oct 26, 2008 at 11:12 AM
We go to the Mint Festival every year and it's great. I'm not sure how long it has been going on, but we started going to it over 20 years ago. Now if only North Judson had some jobs.

Posted by: Steve Location: Indianapolis on Oct 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I went to the Mint Festival this year and I really liked it. Small town festivals are a hoot. My family and I plan on going back next year. Go North Judson!

Posted by: Blue Jay Location: North Judson on Oct 23, 2008 at 09:32 PM
I haven't been to Rt 10, but I used to go to Doug's quite a bit back in the day. They had $.50 drafts sometimes. Those were the days.

Posted by: Lisa Location: North Judson on Oct 23, 2008 at 01:13 PM
I don't care about the bars but Rt 10 sure does have some good food. My family eats there all the time and their waitresses are the best!

Posted by: Katie Location: Bass Lake on Oct 23, 2008 at 12:26 PM
You are not the community, yeah baby!!!!! Put your real name and own up to what you say. My friends and I are at Rt 10 3 nights a week, it is the best place in starke county. Don't knock it before you try it :)

Posted by: Yeah Baby! Location: Knox on Oct 22, 2008 at 11:27 PM
I Had to just get up off the floor from laughing so hard about all the Bashing of the Rt. Tendonitis Bar! I applaud all the folks on here who gave them back a piece of thier own medicine. How wonderful it is to see some rude people like them have to read about what the community thinks about them now! Maybe they will learn to shut the F*** Up and not make up any more stories about people in town or other businesses that was out of line

Posted by: Slade Location: Mishawaka on Oct 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
457 comments on this blog....I didn't know Knox had that many people.

Posted by: Dan Location: Knox on Oct 22, 2008 at 12:42 AM
RT 10 I give it a Zero! Bad owners, Bad Bartenders, Bad Food. 3 Strikes your out. I Go to the Dandelion,Sandbar, or Buddy & Pals when I wnat to have a good time.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: mishawaka on Oct 20, 2008 at 09:31 PM
how did we go talking about kids to stupid red neck bars....

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 20, 2008 at 07:53 PM
well the "stupid bar in judson" was brought into this by ignorant people who have to use this blog to blast the nicest place in the county...sad but true

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 20, 2008 at 06:42 PM
to Jerry V.... route 10 didnt invite themselves to be talked about in this blog..they were brought up by some low life who has nothing to do but try and make other businesses look bad for their pleasure..and you must not be reading newspapers because if you did you'd see they have ads out and maybe if you looked around sometime you would see signs advertising their bar and grill...but you guys are a joke...(not route 10)... this is about the boys..not the bars...grow up and leave the bars and the boys alone because most of you really don't know what you are talking about :)

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 20, 2008 at 06:39 PM
Mike, the answer to your question is in the Anonymous on Oct 19, 2008 at 07:36 PM comment. Read it again. Who cares about how pathetic the bars are around here anyway? I wish they'd all close & then this town would probably be a lot safer. How about we do away with all these bars & build something for our kids to do! Seems like a good idea because then maybe kids wouldn't be getting into as much trouble if they had something to do with their spare time. For that matter, maybe if we got rid of the bars parents would have more time to spend with their children & less time to gossip about everyone else!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 20, 2008 at 06:26 PM
Jim, Dean is exactly right. Everything is hearsay. Tons of rumors flying around this little town and a lot of people jumping to conclusions. Only time will tell.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 20, 2008 at 02:18 PM
I heard the Sand Bar is now carding because Excise is cracking down, finally! Wow, they will lose a lot of business.

Posted by: Dean Location: Plymouth on Oct 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I've heard there will be more charges and that they've been linked to other burglaries outside of Knox. That is all hearsay right now though.

Posted by: Ray Location: San Pierre on Oct 20, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Route 10 is a joke and should be shut down! That place did not even have 250 people at mint fest!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 20, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Please answer Jim's question!!!!!

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 20, 2008 at 09:32 AM
And if you have kids.......why would you want to work in a bar?

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 20, 2008 at 09:23 AM
PLEASE STOP TALIKING ABOUT THE BARS! WHO CARES!

Posted by: Jim Location: Knox on Oct 20, 2008 at 09:19 AM
I logged on to see if there was any new information about these kids? Please get off the bar subject and get to the kids. Are they facing new charges in Pulaski and Marshall county? Is it true there are more arrests coming?

Posted by: Beth Location: NJ on Oct 20, 2008 at 08:05 AM
If you have 2 degrees why would you be a bartender? That sure doesn't make a lot of sense now does it.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 20, 2008 at 08:03 AM
For not knowing Jodie,like you said, you seemed to make up a lot of stuff about her or is this Jodie again pretending to be someone else???

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 19, 2008 at 07:36 PM
WOW! how far outta hand has this blog gotten? my first time here- was told about it so thought i'd check it out for myself. i don't know this jodie personally, but i was at rt 10 when they offered her a job. as far as being a "high school drop out", wonder how that is possible when my daughter went to COLLEGE with her (where they both earned 2 degrees)and they also worked together at a pediatrics office. i have asked my daughter about these accusations and she says it was jodie's choice to tend bar because of the money and flexible hours since she has kids. so sad that supposed business people (rt 10) would stoop to the level as the rest on here and start bashing people of their community. how professional is that? AND- what the heck does it have to do with the subject of this blog??? did it make you sleep better? it's a wonder business has been dropping...

Posted by: Ron Location: Knox on Oct 19, 2008 at 01:30 AM
Why is the Stupid bar in Judson even on this Blog? I logged on because I wanted to hear about the 4 high schoolers and the Sandbar, fletchers, etc. Go get a life and create your own blog if you are that desparate for attention! Who the heck cares about your crappy place anyway? I don't and neither do my friends.

Posted by: Detective Location: NJ on Oct 19, 2008 at 01:04 AM
Terry, I was a detective on the fire and the owners had nothing to do with it; that was about 10 years ago so they must have been saving that insurance money for a long time if that were the case.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 19, 2008 at 12:58 AM
I'm at Rt 10 tonite and there are 250 people here! Party on!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: mishawaka on Oct 19, 2008 at 12:52 AM
to terry i lived in judson as well most of my life and had to get out of that redneck town. All the bars are the same in a hill jack town. are you mad cause you are a hill jack that cant own your own bar so you put down others.. Get a life

Posted by: Terry Location: NJ on Oct 18, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Route 10 is lame and was a better business when it was the Apple Cart! I have lived in Judson my entire life and hate that place. The Pallet company was burned by the owners for insurance and that is how they got the money to build the bar. To:Katie I drove past the bar last night and it was dead dead dead. 9 vehicles is not busy so I went to the Nickel for karaoke and that at least had 50 people there.

Posted by: Kyle Location: North Judson on Oct 18, 2008 at 03:04 PM
ROUTE TEN----- I'll give it a ten

Posted by: Katie Location: Bass Lake on Oct 18, 2008 at 10:55 AM
We stopped at Rt 10 last night because we wanted to try it for ourselves. It was awesome! We had so much fun. Definitely the best place to go on the weekend to party! Going back tonight for Half Track.

Posted by: Lisa Location: Knox on Oct 18, 2008 at 02:41 AM
Who Cares about what the stupid bar in Judson has to say? This is not a blog about you retards it is about crime involving 4 high school students!

Posted by: Donna Location: North Judson on Oct 18, 2008 at 12:25 AM
To Ray from San Pierre: Stop in Route 10 after the bluejays win. We watch the game on the big screen every Friday night around 10 pm. GO BLUEJAYS and BEAT WHEELER!!!!

Posted by: Chris Location: Starke County on Oct 18, 2008 at 12:10 AM
When I want to have some peace and quiet I Go to the rt-10 because they are open later than the Library.LOL " Just kidding because I actually never go there at all" I used to go to the Knox bars but now hang my hat at the ole sandbar.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 17, 2008 at 05:34 PM
To "Ray" San Pierre: Your mom told you? That is funny. If you want to know the real truth, not that it is anyone's business one fire was proven electrical and one was arson by a disgruntled employee who admitted to setting it so before you start more lies that is the truth. This is such a waste of time, idiot!

Posted by: Jerry V. Location: Northside of Judson on Oct 17, 2008 at 05:08 PM
I bet those football players are glad this blog has changed and has taken the heat off of them! I looks like the Rte. 10 wants attention since all the press has been about the Sandbar the past month. Go take out a newspaper ad like everyone else does and get off this blog you cheapskates. Your place has nothing to do with the burglaries and I think it is ridiculous that your bar is even mentioned on here. I saw Knox get ripped a week ago and now Judson is all over this thing? Sad

Posted by: Brad Location: Knox on Oct 17, 2008 at 04:55 PM
What the heck is going on here? I never even heard of the Route 10 , have they been robbed also? I am confused why all the comments they are making so could someone fill me in?

Posted by: Ryan Location: Nj on Oct 17, 2008 at 04:50 PM
To: Route 10, I have been reading this blog for 2.5 weeks and have not seen any negative remarks from Jodie about your bar. I would be careful about pointing a finger right at Jodie like you are for anything. She is popular in this town and has a lot of friends! Not very smart to accuse a local or even another business in the county for petty things. OPen mouth and insert your foot before you lose the rest of your patrons. I overheard people talking about your comments while eating lunch at Grand Central and thought no way did they say that crap. I stand corrected because you not only said what I overheard but a lot more. Shame On You.

Posted by: Jeff n Gina Location: NJ on Oct 17, 2008 at 04:12 PM
I liked that place better when it was the apple cart myself. I dont think that place will be in business very long anyway so way is everyone bashing them? Because the owners daughter is a Beothch thats why! We all hate her and the Snobgell family for years. I remember in sports how obnoxious her father was at the games. Oh what a Loser! I could not even imagine going out for a night of fun and He is at the bar! No Thank you... I go to the Sandbar (old Last Call) because my friends are usually hanging out there most weekends and the bartenders are cool! This blog has changed into the 10 haters club and I think it gives it a whole new reason to live. How about a name change wndu?

Posted by: Cyndi Location: NJ on Oct 17, 2008 at 09:56 AM
We hope this blog is done and it ends about us and gets back to the real issue it was intended for. We were not robbed and had nothing to do with this until Jodie pretended to be us and said a lot of lies in a blog to AGAIN try to hurt our business. We were told by a customer that we were being bashed on this site so we defended our business and we have. Thanks for the support from the people that blogged in our favor and hopefully this will end.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: NJ on Oct 17, 2008 at 07:59 AM
It is not just name calling here, There are criminal acts that have been committed not just on this blog. Things are piling up against someone and they better be careful.

Posted by: phil Location: knox on Oct 17, 2008 at 01:37 AM
To Keith, as far as being victims and slander, Route 10 owners: take a number and step in line, JOIN THE CROWD! At least, your bar wasn't robbed 5 times. Didn't your mom's teach you: "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never harm me." Remember?!!!! Heresay is Heresay! That is what this website and all the blogs on it are about! If you don't like what is on this site, then for Gods sake, don't log on and read the blogs!

Posted by: Keith Location: NJ on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Wow that was very slanderous. Some people don't understand the law and how much trouble they can get in for something like that. but from what i heard the rt. 10 is thinking about pursuing charges. careful everyone

Posted by: HMMMMM.... on Oct 16, 2008 at 02:47 PM
Derek, I see what you are saying. The question still remains, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS???

Posted by: NJ on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Yeah, how stupid to pretend you are another business and blog publicly. Karma is a @$%&*!

Posted by: Kris on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM
You said it! False impersonating and slander, wow, what evidence!

Posted by: Derek Location: Plymouth on Oct 16, 2008 at 09:06 AM
Actually, I have a degree from the U of M. You're obviously not getting my point. Many many more people make the mistake of getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking than the mistake of breaking into businesses repeatedly and stealing. I'm not saying that's right, but that's true. Surveys will tell you that more than 50% of adults have done it at least once in their lives. Let me know if half of you have broken into a business and stolen from them.

Posted by: Martin Location: NJ on Oct 15, 2008 at 11:41 PM
I am surprised that anyone would want Jodie as an employee, If I owned a business, hilljack, white trash would not be on my list of potential employees that I would want working at my business. Sorry Jodie, but thats the truth.

Posted by: To Well on Oct 15, 2008 at 08:33 PM
LOL...I'm with ya on that one, Posted by: Well on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:38 AM.

Posted by: Crystal on Oct 15, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Hey AMY J... MY POINT was that her saying the f-word (rather or not she does I don't know or really care) Has nothing to do with breaking into places. I have used the f-word, does that mean I am planning to rob a bank? I mean, come on!! My mother always taught me "do as I say, not as I do" & I respected that!! Quite frankly if she is so much of an influence on him it would mean she was teaching him to say bad words?? AGAIN-- WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?? LOL--and then to bring watching porn into it? WOW!! To think I have actually wondered how stories get blown up so bad and rumors get started, You just showed me!! As I already stated, I don't know these people & I don't know you... so I'm not going to argue about it. I just simply hate it when people talk bad about others they don't even know. What kind of example is that setting for your kids???????

Posted by: Ryan Location: North Judson on Oct 15, 2008 at 06:01 PM
To: RT.10 I am a customer of most places in town and sometimes I stop in your place. I have heard the other owners in town talk about the RT.10 and they actually do'nt like you at all. I just thought I would let you know so you realize they are not very happy with you. I have been hangin at the Brantwood most of the time and I have to say that beef sandwich there is REAL GOOD! I am going to go get me some right now!

Posted by: Ray Location: San Pierre on Oct 15, 2008 at 05:18 PM
Rt.10 I do not go to your bar and your child comments about Jody and other people is the reason why. Your bar was closed early last night like usual (9:30) and I went to Prospectors then to the Sandbar which was crowded. You people need to grow up and maybe if you show some class me and my friends would stop in there and have a few but I doubt it now. The dude who runs the Sandbarr is a straight up good guy who I doubt would give a damn about any signs you have. You do not have the right to blame another business for that sort of thing because maybe it was kids or someone you threw out of your bar? Anyway my mom told me that it was a pallet company that was torched a few times and I think we all knew that anyway. Good luck with your place because from the looks of your parking lot most of the time you really need it. GO BLUE JAYS!

Posted by: Cyndi Location: NJ on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:16 AM
First of all how did this go from young kids robbing businesses to Jody, a high school dropout herself, bashing Rt 10 in North Judson who has nothing to do with all this. Wow, jealousy must be that bad that you have to try to use this site to bring us down. How typical of someone with your IQ. Everyone knows the truth.

Posted by: Donna-Route 10 Location: North Judson on Oct 15, 2008 at 09:17 AM
To the person that said they were from Route 10 - GROW UP!!! You guys are complete immature idiots. I was told some immature hilljack put something on here. I am guessing you are the one that put going out of business on our sign. Get a life! Route 10 is not even involved in this. We wouldn't hire Jodie, we do not want white trash working at our restaurant. We are not fighting with The Nickel or Brantwood. The Sandbar owners and workers are who painted our signs and stole our letters off our sign. And also genius - A lumber yard?? You are a complete moron. It just shows how immature you are by sitting on here and fighting with teenage kids. You have major mental problems and you need help! I hope you do not have kids. That is a scary thought! What a role model you are.

Posted by: Maxine Location: Knox on Oct 15, 2008 at 02:39 AM
To Brandy, I have to tell you that I feel sorry for John (Sandbar owner) if you and he are friends. If he has friends such as you and your family, he truly doesn't have any room for enemies then. Also, if people actually believe that your family members weren't the ones writing all the slanderous, hateful material on this site, then they were born yesterday!

Posted by: Route 10 Bar & Grill, LLC Location: North Judson on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:45 AM
I think it is pretty sad when people so jeolous of our business make up stories about us that are not true. Sorry but it's not working. Our business is growing and we are very pleased with our customer base. All of our great customers know your little blog is a lie and we all know how very imature and childish the person or persons are that put that in. You need to grow up. We also have a good idea who you are. The same ones that painted our signs at Bass Lake. Grow up.

Posted by: Route 10 Location: north judson on Oct 14, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Our business is in the toilet! We recommend that all our customers ( if we have any) not come to the route 10 anymore. Please go to the Wooden Nickel, The SandBar, or the Brantwood. We have cancelled Jim Post on Thursdays and now we have cancelled our Saturday bands for the rest of the year. Sorry we have been so horrible to the community but we are rotten people and dont know how to treat people with respect. Maybe we can light this place up like we did the lumber yard for insurance TWICE!!! We have to get money somehow and since nobody comes to the bar we have to do what we can. Dale daddy will be getting his gas can and matches ready.

Posted by: What a joke! Location: knox on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Derek, are you kidding? You honestly think a "mistake" is getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking and it is a "better" choice than breaking into a bar? If so, you have some serious issues. You wanna make jokes about the "typical knox education", after the comments you have made it's safe to assume you must be nothing more than another "typical high school drop out". Apparently you are also someone that is without an ounce of a brain or morals. I am sure that (it is only obvious after your statements) the knox special education children are more intelligent than you. Nice way to try to cover up your first ignorant comment. Didn't work though... better luck next time.

Posted by: derek Location: knox on Oct 14, 2008 at 09:59 AM
If they would not have been caught, they would probably still be robbing businesses.The crimes that they did are not the crimes that BOYS would do, they are the crimes that Men would do. They made a decision to rob and steal and should be made to pay for it as an Adult. If the court lets them off with a slap on the wrist, it will be open season on businesses and houses in Starke Co. for any minor that wants to duplicate what these students have done. Put them in Adult court and see what their punishment should be. We all will be safer when they are sent away.

Posted by: Derek Location: Plymouth on Oct 14, 2008 at 09:28 AM
No, the point is that a lot more people make the "mistake" of getting behind the wheel after drinking then they do breaking into businesses and stealing. You must have the typical Knox education.

Posted by: Well on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:38 AM
#1. I can not believe this blog is still going. #2. I can't believe I still click on it.

Posted by: to gloria from Ruthy on Oct 14, 2008 at 02:59 AM
I dont own the business that got burglerized. It was my home.:(

Posted by: Bernie Mac Location: KnoX on Oct 13, 2008 at 11:44 PM
I dont think the kids need life in 8===D prison or ne thing but they need to go to jail for awhile and suffer for their mistakes.

Posted by: john Location: southbend on Oct 13, 2008 at 11:19 PM
WOW go Knox go i live in knox for 33 years i moved to southbend 15 years ago, people from southbend R all talking about you guys, STOP GUYS Go outside and clean something....... john d.

Posted by: Teach Location: NJ on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM
I'm proud or our judicial system that let these students back in school while the case progresses. They are innocent until proven guilty. So, students who are presumed innocent should be allowed back into school. To do otherwise would punish them before they are convicted. But, maybe that's what you want "adult". It sounds like the law is being enforced as it should be. Let's first see if they are convicted and then we will see if they remain in school.

Posted by: teacher Location: knox high on Oct 13, 2008 at 09:01 PM
You know how it is if you have that last name in a small town you have it all going for you. you can get away with anything.. theses boys should pay for what they have done....

Posted by: Hey Crystal Location: Toto on Oct 13, 2008 at 08:40 PM
I will tell you what using the F-word and drinking has to do with the situation: I know for sure that the people who influence our kids the most are the people they are around the most. So if you want your kid sleeping over with his friend and their parents use the F-word like crazy and get drunk in front of them then so be it. I can tell you that I do not want my kids around that. I know you cannot watch them every waking moment but you can be a good influence on them. Not saying I have never used the F-word or gotten drunk but I grew up and never made a habit of it. Please let me know how old your kids are so I know better to ever let my family's kids ever come stay all night. I don't want any of them coming to your house and have you be the "cool Mom" and play drinking games with them and letting them watch porn.

Posted by: adult Location: starke on Oct 13, 2008 at 05:48 PM
i think that this is a disgrace that out justice system let these kids back in school i have a child that goes to knox and a couple of these boys walk around the school like they r heroes and im disgusted by this they r not heroes and further more they r not good enough athletes to go on to play college one that is very unsportsman like and has great disrespect for authority. for him to play anywhere but a high school is not going to happen. in do not think that these kids need to go to prison for the rest of their lives but yes they need to pay for what they have done.

Posted by: Daniel Location: Knox on Oct 13, 2008 at 04:19 PM
To Derek Location: Plymouth You need a serious reality check! Anyone that reads your comment will undoubtedly realize how big of an idiot you really must be! You have to be to suggest the way you have that having a few too many drinks, getting behind the wheel & driving is some how considered a “mistake”! THANK GOD that is NOT the mistake these kids made! They, in NO way, put anyone’s life in danger! Driving drunk would’ve done just that – how stupid you must be! Once again, like many people have stated on here, football has absolutely NOTHING to do with this case!

Posted by: knox students Location: knox on Oct 13, 2008 at 03:34 PM
i agree with the student education comes first thats wat we are all taught and if you dont like that fact to bad. But taking these boys out of school is only gonna ruin their lives more..

Posted by: gloria Location: knox on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM
To Ruthy: WE GOT THE POINT! These boys are just the most horrible people in the world! They are responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened in this town! Just out of curiousity, What business is it that you own?

Posted by: Derek Location: Plymouth on Oct 13, 2008 at 08:28 AM
No, this wasn't a mistake. A mistake would be if one of them had a few too many drinks, got behind the wheel, and got a DUI. A "mistake" doesn't happen by breaking into businesses on more than one occasion. As for their football careers, these were kids that were going to play somewhere like St. Francis or someplace small like that. Maybe stars at Knox, but at a bigger school these kids are average football players. An education yes, a pro career no chance. However, they've lost that chance, I wouldn't want kids like that on my football team.

Posted by: Route 10 bar Location: North Judson on Oct 13, 2008 at 03:16 AM
I would like to enter a public apoplogy to John and the SandBar. We had told customers that you robbed yourself and obviously that was not correct and we are very sorry for the rumor we started. We also apologize to Jodie for the horrible things we said about her as well. We wish she would have chose to work here but since she chose the Sandbar instead we acted like children. Our bar is failing and we wish we could have kept John, Jerry and Mutt friends but unfortunately we made you all enemies. No matter what we do we just can not get people to come to our bar and we are asking for help! I believe the students never robbed us because since we dont do much business we never have much cash. Once again we are sorry for everything and want the Nickel, Brantwood, & Sandbar all to know that we have only copied your bars because we are not creative enough to make ours unique. The only unique thing about it is that you other 3 bars have customers all the time and we dont.from, Mr. Poor Pockets

Posted by: Anonymous Location: mishawaka on Oct 13, 2008 at 01:43 AM
These kids need JAIL TIME

Posted by: Tracy Location: Knox on Oct 13, 2008 at 01:35 AM
Yes I know a Jpo. He has been banned from a lot of bars because of his past and stuff he has been doing now. Yes those kids shouldn't be around him.

Posted by: RUTHY on Oct 13, 2008 at 01:32 AM
I was robbed twice in January. I found out throuh the law that is was them boys. That's what the law told me. Honestly.

Posted by: TAKE A STAND on Oct 13, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Blake the Da Man lol you all still making funnys just like the fools that are driving around town with the painted windows ..maybe you will get a ticket lol

Posted by: Crystal on Oct 12, 2008 at 10:34 PM
SORRY AMY J! CORRECTION- WAS supposed to go to *HEY AMY J*(@ 6:10) By the way, (hey amy J) I am curious what does how many times his mother uses the F-word in a sentence or what his parents drink have to do with anything? I mean really, Is that important to anyone that matters? Not really! Nobody is perfect including yourself I'm sure. This goes back to what I was saying about having better things to do than judge others. Do you really think it makes you look any better than the people you are talking bad about being that you are sitting at your computer bad mouthing them on an anonymous public website? So who looks like the idiot? I don't even know those people & it makes me sad that people are so bored with their own life that they feel the need to cut them down when I'm sure they are feeling pretty bad as it is. You should treat others how you would want to be treated! If it was your child, would you want people bad mouthing you or your kid? Think about that before throwing stones.

Posted by: crystal m Location: knox on Oct 12, 2008 at 09:48 PM
Amy J. First off, I just thought I would tell you that I'm not a member of anyones family that is involved (includes the one "that is talked about the most") & I DO NOT think any of them look "like idiots" for defending a member of their family. In my opinion, & I'm sure others will agree, the only ones looking "like idiots" are those who are willing to get on their computer or go out of their way to bad mouth people they don't know. Only "idiots" get pleasure out of that. Anyone with any sort of morals, or a life for that matter, would have something better to do than sit around making remarks about & judge others. I highly doubt that it's only their families on here defending them anyway. I'm sure their are several people that do actually know these kids- that want to defend them as a person or individual without trying to defend their actions. I haven't saw anyone say that what they are accused of is ok, seems they are just wanting us to know that they arent really bad people.

Posted by: Knox Teacher Location: Knox on Oct 12, 2008 at 07:11 PM
YEP! Blake Is "STILL" Da Man! LOL

Posted by: Hey Amy J Location: Knox on Oct 12, 2008 at 06:10 PM
I want the best for the kids also, no one should be making excuses for them. This was not a bad decision, this was a life changing decision. A bad decision is sneaking out of the house to meet a girl or taking $20 out of your mom's purse without her knowing. They did this several times and each time had the chance to decide not to do it again. I do not know about all the kids' families but the football player who the story talks about the most (his family making excuses and sounding like idiots?) you cannot tell me his family sets a good example. Do you even know his Mom? All she talks about is drinking mixed in with the F-word about 3 times every sentence. Does his Dad drink on a daily basis, yes or no? Not just a glass of wine but like get hammered. No one is saying anything about them not being hard working or not loving their kids. Just saying minors shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions. If their "supervisor" would have done his job they wouldn't have left the house.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: A Knox teacher on Oct 12, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Just because these kids are star football players they should not get special treatment. It would not be fair.. They should get what they have coming to them

Posted by: Concerned Location: Knox on Oct 12, 2008 at 09:39 AM
These acts of robbery have now become a habit with Pulaski County announcement. The best thing to do to help these kids would be to order them to obtain treatment. We should want a business to continue in this location not close due to loss by theft. Theft also involves property damage. Insurance rates will raise due to the percent of theft in a given area. It affects everyone when prices go up for necessities due to act of theft. This is a community problem not an individual problem.

Posted by: Amy J Location: Knox on Oct 12, 2008 at 09:14 AM
Hey, Bounty Hunter, I can tell you for a fact that the families of 2 of these boys don't frequent bars at all. They are hard working parents that thought their sons were hanging out with a good friend at his house, supervised. Good kids make bad choices every day. If these boys had never gotten into any form of trouble before--why should their parents have any reason not to trust them.........As a family friend, I never would have thought it possible. I hope the best for these kids and their families.

Posted by: Charlie's Friend Location: Notre Dame on Oct 11, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Neither one of these kids are even close to the caliber of kids getting full rides to ND or Nebraska. So until one of you McCann lovers can scan an offer and post it on here...Shut up! I am sick of you telling everyone how Blake was going to play football at Nebraska on a full ride and Kenny at Notre Dame.

Posted by: The Bounty Hunter Location: Toto on Oct 11, 2008 at 10:29 PM
If some of these kids parents were home and not out drinking all the time this might not of happened. What kind of parents let their kids out late enough to rob a bar after it is closed?

Posted by: Toby Location: South Bend on Oct 11, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Hey, NOT RUTHIE, you don't spell so well yourself. It's RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: Vickie, are you serious? Location: Knox on Oct 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM
He has a business and maybe it was a good night? I'm sure other businesses have a lot more money than that. Don't try to blame him for some kid's stupid decisions.

Posted by: NOT ruthy Location: here on Oct 11, 2008 at 02:03 PM
I was just curious if anyone really knows the truth about anything for sure? Seems like there are a lot of opinions and accusations but thats about it. After reading this nonsense the only conclusion I have come to is that Ruthy likes to ramble (1/2 this page is her rambling on and on), she can't type or spell very well (along with several others on here), some bar that is really unimportant until now has something to do with this somehow (rather its good or bad I don't really know yet, great way for publicity either way though i suppose), and people have a lot of hateful things to say about kids they don't even know. Does anyone else agree yet that this page is getting a bit rediculous and out of hand? Just something for you all to think about. THANKS!!!!!!

Posted by: VICKIE Location: KNOX on Oct 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTIONS FOR MR LEWANDOWSKI. FIRST WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE THAT MUCH MONEY AT YOUR BUSINESS TO BEGIN WITH AND SECOND IF YOU WERE ROBBED ONCE WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE GOTTEN BETTER SECURITY SYSTEM FOR YOUR BUSINESS. DON'T GET ME WRONG WHAT THEY DID WAS WRONG!!!! BUT WHY WOULD YOU SUBJECT YOURSELF TO BEING ROBBED AGAIN?

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Oct 11, 2008 at 09:40 AM
First of all, you Knox students can't spell worth a dang!! Second of all--quit saying they made A mistake..it was not once, not twice, not three times but several. There should be no excuses period. You're all just telling them they're behavior is ok. That's why are children are the way they are.--Too much negative reinforcement and not enough positive reinforcement.

Posted by: Amy J Location: Knox on Oct 11, 2008 at 09:16 AM
I thought that it was established already by people that these boys didn't rob any houses here in Knox. There are suppose to be other people out there doing the same sort of thing. This makes sense. Even with these boys in Muncie we had quite a few robberies going on here...I checked the papers from that week. I think that Ruthie just wants these boys in trouuble even w/out knowing if it was really them or not that robbed her.

Posted by: Ruthy Location: Knox on Oct 11, 2008 at 07:01 AM
AND BROOKE I NEVER SAiD TO BEAT A CHILD. I'M JUST SAYING HOW WOULD THEY LIKE A LIFE LIKE THAT??????? IF I HAD KIDS I MAKE SURE THEY WAS RAISED RIGHT. I PITTY YOUR KIDS OR FUTURE KIDS AS WELL. OR ARE THESE COLD BLOODED CRIMINALS YOUR KIDS? LOL IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT I LOOK LIKE I WILL SEND YOU A PICTURE IF YOU LIKE? I'M NOT ASHAMED. YES I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN DoING STUFF NOT JUST THEM. I'M JUST SAYING I HAVE MY WAYS OF FINDING OUT WHO ELSE THEY ROBBED. WELL LIKE I TOLD THE OTHERS HERE TOO THEY ROBBED MY HOUSE TOO AND STOLEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WORKED HARD FOR AND NOT TO MENTION I'M ALSO DISABLED. I HOPE YOU WILL FIND OUT WHAT BEING DISABLED AND BEING ROBBED IS LIKE.YES YOU ARE RIGHT. THEY SHOULD JUST HAVE TO PAY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND BE IT. AND I DO NOT THINK THEY SHOULD BE BEAT. JUST SAyING THAT THEY ARE LUCKY BEING FROM A GOOD LAND LIKE THIS. OTHERS DON'T HAVE THAT.

Posted by: Ruthy Location: knox on Oct 11, 2008 at 06:57 AM
WELL DANIELC I'M SMART ENOUGH NOT TO DO WHAT THESE KIDS DID AND I'M NOT ON THE PC 24-7 LIKE YOU PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO LIFE AND HAVE NOT WORKING FOR ANYTHING AND THEN HAVE IT TAKEN AWAY. THIS HAS NOTHING TO WITH SPELLING. IT HAS TO DO WITH COLD BLOODED CRIMINALS AND ONE DAY WILL PROBABLY COLD BLOODED MURDERERS. AND NOT TO WORRY OUR PROSICUTOR WILL GET THEM GOOD. :) YOUR 7 YEAR OLD OUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!!!! YOU ARE IGNORANT. I KNOW ALL ABOUT IT ENOUGH SAID. ARE YOU TEACHING YOU 7 YEAR OLD TO BE A CRIMINAL BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO APPROVE IT. THEY WILL GET THEIR EDUCATION COMPLETED IN PRISON AND WON'T COST THEIR PARENTS A DIME. HOW GOOD CAN THIS GET?!!! LOL I'M LAUGHING AT THE IDIOT. AND THAT'S AT YOU DEAR.

Posted by: Ruthy Location: knox on Oct 11, 2008 at 06:55 AM
OH YEAH TO ALL IF THESE BOY WAS POOR AND WASNT A JOCK YOU WANT THE BOOK THROWN AT THEM. BUT IF THIS COUNTY HAD ANYTHING WE WOULDNT HAVE BORED KIDS DOING THE THINGS THEY DO, BUT THEY DO NEED TO AT LEAST WORK FOR WHAST THRY DID AND PAY PEOPLE BACK. IT WAS WAS MY HOME THAT WAS ROBBED AND MY PRIVACY INVATED.:( WELL HOW WOULd THEY LIKE IT LIVING IN THE OTHER LANDS. I HAVE FAMILY WHO LIVES IN THEM. SO I KNOW. AND THEY ARE AMERICANS THAT FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY AND WORK HARD AS WELL. THATS WHY THEY ARE LIVING IN OTHER LANDS. YES IT'S GOOD TO PROTECT OUR YOUTH, BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE DISCIPLINE AND PARENTS WHO RAUSE THEIR KIDS RIGHT. THIS PARTICULAR YOUTH NEEDS PROTECTION IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF THEIR MISERABLE LIVES.

Posted by: I agree with Peter Location: NJ on Oct 11, 2008 at 06:46 AM
Posted by: peter Location: plymouth on Oct 10, 2008 at 12:48 PM "Cane" them like in Singapore. Blisters on the behind might serve as a reminder.

Posted by: Do any of you know JPO? on Oct 11, 2008 at 06:45 AM
Those kids will probably be getting caught in his trap and that will be the end of them. So you parents of monors should watch for your kids. They might even grow up like that JPO.

Posted by: Toby Location: South Bend on Oct 10, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Dear Concerned Parent, You better believe my parents knew where I was in the middle of the night! I was raised well enough to never have thought about taking off in the middle of the night or any other time without their permission. And it was the same for my kids.....if you can imagine that. Maybe it's because we were taught respect and responsibility from an early age. My parents sacrificed plenty to make sure they raised us right, and we worked hard to do the same for our kids. That's not to say that every kid will turn out perfectly, but our society has lost the family priorities that have to be in place to raise good kids. It's time to stop coddling and start parenting, don't you think?

Posted by: knox student Location: knox on Oct 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
These boys broke into a bar. i dont think they need jail time or w/e it is you people want to give them.. i seriously think they need to stay in school, but they did make a mistake!! but who has never made a mistake in there life i mean come on... these boys oviously need some sort of help with drinking it was mainly beer and achole that they were trying to steal. i think they should stay in school but still be on house arrest but they also should be getting help with there problem also kenny and blake probably have lost there football scalorships witch probably ment alot to them.....if you would of went to court and saw these boys you would see on there faces that they knew what they did was wrong and im pretty sure they want to fix that...... I am 100% with all of you people on saying they need to get intorble but please dont take them out of school..in my opinon i think they may not finish school if they get sent away for a year.. i hope this comment has change so veiwers minds.thax.

Posted by: Shelby on Oct 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
This is the best blog ever.

Posted by: knox student Location: knox on Oct 10, 2008 at 10:59 PM
They are not bad kid, i go to school with all of them and have never known them to be bad kids... ethan coad didnt even do anything he was just in the car and plus i think all of these boys should get to stay in school!!! school is important even if this Big O says "knox is full of loser" okay now lets not be rude.. we are not all loser every one makes mistakes this was just a big one and im sure they have been terrified enought to have to go to munsy for a week....basically what i want to say is dont talk trash about these boys if you dont even know them OKAY!

Posted by: Over it. on Oct 10, 2008 at 05:43 PM
You guys are pathetic. Let the courts and those with the correct jobs handle this. Starke Co is not full of losers and the boys deserve punishment yes.. whatever that is, let the courts decide instead of having a comment battle. Seriously, its sad and pathetic. Grow up.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Oct 10, 2008 at 04:22 PM
Why knocking on the Sandbar? The story is not about them serving underage kids..it's about these kids burglarizing..so stick to that and quit trying to justify their acts by saying "Well, the Sandbar does this, the Sandbar does that, they break this/that law"...That's for another story.....BTW I've never even heard of the Sandbar.....

Posted by: peter Location: plymouth on Oct 10, 2008 at 12:48 PM
"Cane" them like in Singapore. Blisters on the behind might serve as a reminder.

Posted by: Myrt on Oct 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM
All this talk about 19 year olds being "served" - do they all have fake ids????

Posted by: not a redneck Location: indiana on Oct 10, 2008 at 11:34 AM
WE'RE NOT ALL LOSERS. I AM EDUCATED, HAVE MY OWN TEETH, AND EVEN WEAR SHOES! WHY MUST EVERYONE STEROTYPE? COME ON DOWN, THE PEOPLE ARE FRIENDLY AND DOWN TO EARTH.DON'T BELIVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Anon on Oct 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Wow these comments are ridiculous! They committed crime and they should pay for what they have done! Bottom line.

Posted by: Big O on Oct 10, 2008 at 09:20 AM
Steve O I'm with you.... Here's my thought Starke Co. has always been full of losers, and these boys, this story, and YOUR blogs, prove that I am correct. get a life people the stole and they know they did wrong and now its time to pay the piper, I personally hope these redneck punks got to prison.....that'll teach 'em

Posted by: N on Oct 10, 2008 at 08:43 AM
These people from the FUTURE are comin' down here and takin' all of our JERBS! Goobacks! If you dont like 'Merica you can GEEEEEEET OUT! Rabble! Rabble rabble!

Posted by: wondering Location: indiana on Oct 10, 2008 at 08:17 AM
this incident could have happened in any city, any school. wrong is wrong, but because it's Knox,it's even "worse." We're not inbreeds,uneducated people. You never hear "THE QUIET LITTLE TOWN OF KNOX , WITH IT'S 15 BAPTIST CHURCHES, WAS SHATTERED TODAY..." NO, YOU HEAR "THE ROBBERY GETAWAY CAR WAS A RUST-BUCKET, WITH A LOUD MUFFLER"! GEE, DID THEY HAVE A "GIT-R-DONE" SHIRT WHEN THEY ROBBED A CONVIENCE STORE!!?

Posted by: ANOTHER CONCERNED PARENT Location: North Judson on Oct 10, 2008 at 12:19 AM
When we heard about the knox football players, I think everyone with a teenage kid felt sadness for all involved, including the boys. How could you not. What do you want? Do the boys need the death penalty? I feel for the parents, does anyone really know where their child is in the middle of the night? It is so easy for kids to sneak out and go do stuff. Why should the parents be blamed? Any parent would support their kid, no matter what. I feel I have raised my kids to be good kids, but it can only go so far. With all the drugs and alcohol going around NORTH JUDSON and KNOX, we cannot control, we just need to pray our kids to make the right choice. You can be rich, religious, poor, etc, it doesn't matter. It is who they become as adults and what kids learn from their mistakes. The McCan and Flores kids lost their futures in football. That should be considered part of their punishments. I don't know any of the boys, but PEOPLE!, they are really kids! KIDS!!!!!

Posted by: Funny Location: North Judson on Oct 9, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Sorry, I have another funny...... Sarah - are you 19?

Posted by: Funny Location: North Judson on Oct 9, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Also, by the way, you SANDBAR lovers: you are arguing with a bunch of teenage kids, ANOTHER FUNNY SARAH!!

Posted by: Funny Location: North Judson on Oct 9, 2008 at 11:42 PM
This is way too funny! The reason why people are posting here is because it is a BLOG!!!! A POST YOUR COMMENT SECTION! Duh. Also, to Sarah-you do serve minors. My cousin who is 19 got served and so did her friends. Nobody here is blaming the Sandbar - the kids should and will be punished. DUH AGAIN. We just think it is funny that you people act like you do NO WRONG!!! You do NOT obey the law. DUH!!! And, you sure spend a lot of time defending your little kitty place. You should look into becoming a comedian.

Posted by: Citizen in Knox Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Now there is another county going after them for break-ins there. Bad enough you kids wearing shirts saying they love mccan. Apparently there more parents that can't raise their kids right either.

Posted by: Hmmm Location: Indiana on Oct 9, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Well...again, if they were in the bar drinking, did somebody force them to do that? Did they forget their ages? These kids shouldn't have entered a bar to drink anyway, just like they shouldn't have robbed people, that's their fault again....

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 9, 2008 at 08:10 PM
continued: That being said, I am done. IF you have any questions as to the "slander" me/my family has inflicted on John please feel free to call him. He is willing to set you straight as well. For those of you who may have failed "COMPREHENSION" in school~NONE of the family has stated here or elsewhere that the crimes committed were justifiable. We have NEVER stated it was OK, that punishment was not necessary OR that there should not be accountability. We are not an ignorant self-loathing family that does not know right from wrong. I have used my REAL name on every comment I have posted because I am PROUD of the family I am from and take comfort in knowing that they will ALWAYS be there in times of need: to comfort, support and defend~ that does not mean JUSTIFYING any wrong doing. After all, isn't that what FAMILY is supposed to do? I am sick to my stomach reading these outright CRUEL statements & accusations being said by people who have never even heard of our family until now.

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 9, 2008 at 07:48 PM
To set things straight John (owner of the SandBar) and I happen to be friends. We have talked numerous times and feel this blog is completely ridiculous. I have become completely consumed with defending my family & it has driven me crazy! I want & feel like I have a duty (as family)to defend every negative remark that is said.I am worn out.I have come to the realization that closed minded people who are willing to make their judgments based strictly on what the media and these blogs have said is not worth defending anyway. For those who feel better about bashing our family with your remarks of pure cruelty, you are no better than the words you have used to describe us. If it makes us bad people to stand by our loved ones and feel the need to protect them, so be it. I will take being bad any day! To Think About This- you mention the other boys families not blogging or stating who they are if they are- I AM NOT IN ANY WAY ASHAMED OF WHO I AM OR THE FAMILY I DARE TO PROTECT!! (continued)

Posted by: student(2) on Oct 9, 2008 at 07:29 PM
actually, i know 3 of the boys, they do not do drugs. and how in god's green heavens would you know if they sell drugs or not?! srsly, the troubled ones that should be locked up are right outside the school. smoking. no one says anything to that. i over heard one saying she stole money from a teacher to buy her cancer sticks. no one is on their case, but since its football players we must all point fingers, and pull stuff out of our behinds.

Posted by: student on Oct 9, 2008 at 07:25 PM
okay, so the boys are back. and seriously, nothing changed. It makes me laugh how 'kids' can be more mature than adults. last time i checked, they havent been proven guilty. I think it's unfair for the station to have mentioned their names. I mean, the story, okay whatever. But their names. they aren't adults yet. And back to adults not being mature, blogging about 4 teens calling them all sorts of things, how mature is that? and according to many, we're a bunch of hillbillies; well newsplash, more than half the people that threw the word 'hillbilly'/'hick'/'hicktown' don't seem that sophisticated to me, nor civilized.

Posted by: Brandy on Oct 9, 2008 at 07:21 PM
To:Friend of the SandBar-Bass Lake on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:19 PM "The reason The McCan family has blasted the owner of the SandBar is because that is the business Blake admitted to Robbing twice. They feel if they Discredit my friend they will gain some support through this blog. Sad that they have gone to this low level of blog bashing everyone here. Very Sad" Please show an example of where ANY of our family has bashed ANY of the businesses involved. In case you didn't know, "McCan" has a lot of supporters.Not just us 3 family members that have stated our opinions. We have DEFENDED him as a person-as a WHOLE-not on any mistakes he has made. We have only defended him, NOT bashed ANY of the people or businesses involved. Just goes to prove- AGAIN- that people like to ASSUME before knowing the facts! BOB-"They are trash, and the family members defending them here and attempting to smear the victims are not only disfuctional,but stupid and selfish" Do you even know which of us is family?

Posted by: Nick Location: Bass Lake on Oct 9, 2008 at 07:07 PM
I have seen the flores kid and the mccan kid in the sandbar drinking several times!

Posted by: praying for you all on Oct 9, 2008 at 06:35 PM
Mike,I am not a victim but I'm also not part of the families that are involved. It seems to me that there are a lot of fingers being pointed in both directions. There are just as many comments on here that are slandering that kid and his family as there are comments slandering the sandbar owner. You must have only a read a few of the comments to come to the conclusion that you did. This whole thing is really sad and quite honestly i am confused at what 90% of this has to do with the real issue at hand.

Posted by: Jen Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 05:58 PM
To concerned mom let it go!! It's not a blog about the sandbar!!! It's about boys stealing from everyone.

Posted by: Bob Location: SB on Oct 9, 2008 at 04:43 PM
To: "concerned mom", your continued babel about the victims is disfunctional. Hello, is there anybody at home, this is about the scumbags criminals who were on their way to making a career by stealing and destroying other peoples property. No wonder these jerks are so messed up if you raised them.

Posted by: Breanne / McCan Family Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 04:42 PM
I haven’t cared about what's been on this blog b/c it didn’t phase me in the slightest what ANYONE had 2 say b/c I said what I wanted 2 say 2 JOHN!That was UNTIL I was told 2day that MY NAME was brought into this(by Friend of the SandBar)so if U, or anyone else, feels they need to discuss ME, here is my email breanne@mychaneyfamily.com I will then be happy 2 give U my phone# so we can discuss this in person instead of on a blog!1 more thing 2 “Friend of the SandBar”, U look at the facts, Blake has NOT ADMITTED 2 anything 2x(is NOT on record), he is being CHARGED w/ that but NOT proven! Big diff.!Talk about “blog bashing”&“class”.1 more FACT for U, if it was a positive ID it's THEM, then the auth.’s wouldn’t have waited 3,almost4,mos. 2 pick them up–genius!“Crime Mob”? LMAO,this is Starke Co.! As far as the“PAY FOR BLAKE'S LAWYER–FUND”(“By Sarah”),shows how much U know this family! WE will gladly give the money & do wtvr else it takes to defend him & you're right, so will alot of others!

Posted by: Concerned Mom Location: North Judson on Oct 9, 2008 at 02:16 PM
Once again, I want to reiterate the fact that I do not think that burglary is right in anyway, and the boys should be punished somehow. The courts will figure all of that out. What I am concerned about is the minor consuming that goes on in the Sandbar. It makes me sick. I know a person that is 20 that had her bachelorette party at the Sandbar and they were ALL under 21. That is ridiculous. I just loath the day that a 19 year old gets killed in a car crash leaving that bar and/or kills an innocent bystander. Something has to be done. If they are so concerned with people paying for crimes, lets also point some blame at John for having those young kids in his bar. The system is failing us by letting him get away with his crimes. This is not slander, this is a known fact. You can ask most 19 year old kids where they could go and hang out and drink in a bar, and the answer would be simple, The Sandbar. All should be held accountable for their crimes, including John.

Posted by: Mike Location: Cleveland on Oct 9, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Before I really didn't care what happened to these guys. But after reading some of you talking smack about the bar owner and his family, I really hope these kids end up in jail. With family and a support group like you, they'll never learn they're lesson unless they're dealt with by the justice system. You guys have apparently enabled them, it's pretty clear where they learned about accountability as you sit here and point fingers and false accusations at one of the victims.

Posted by: stop the drama Location: vincinnes on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:51 PM
if this had happened in another town besides Knox, would it have been so blown up? wrong is wrong, but people in Knox actually have good educations, have their own teeth, and yes, even wear shoes!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I can't believe there are 300 comments on this story. Just let it go.

Posted by: Jennifer Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 11:52 AM
I bet McCan Clan would love for this blog to die!!!

Posted by: Darrin Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Quit slandering the owners of the bar. They haven't been charged with anything you're talking about. McCan and Flores, they've been charged, and that's a fact . What you're saying about Lewandowski isn't.

Posted by: sane adult on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Don't worry Brooke, I was just messing with you, your home is safe the REAL thieves in the area are being monitored. But it is funny how you were so defensive of your home, what about all of the victims. Surely you can't be so stupid as to not realize why people are upset.

Posted by: Brooke R. on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:55 AM
(continued)nor am I ashamed of anyone in my family. People are saying a lot of things that they really have no idea about and a lot of hateful things about my family, but oh well. That is part if living in a small town I guess. Do any of you really think that if this were to happen it Chicago this would be as big of a deal as it has been here? I am guessing probably not. If any of you actually KNEW us, you probably wouldn't be so quick to talk. I am not saying that we are perfect by any means, but one thing we actually take pride & comfort in is knowing that NO MATTER WHAT, we are going to be there for each other. That is just the way it is. Most people would feel lucky to be able to say that. I have made the decision to avoid these blogs for a reason, after reading them today I am reminded of why. There are SO many bored [or ignorant] people around its actually really sad and quite pitiful. I hope this clears things up for everyone. If not, I guess that is to bad. I just figured I would make one comment to let people know that they aren't always talking to who they think they are and ENOUGH IS ENOUGH already!

Posted by: Brooke R. on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:52 AM
To "Can We Be Finished?" at 11:43 PM I will say that i agree with part of your statement: Everyone does need to let this blog die! I can tell you now though, a good deal of these comments aren't made from the family like a lot of people are saying &/or thinking. The funny thing about this blog page is that people can say they are anyone that they want people to think they are. Sorry to disappoint. Not to mention [to the person that is thinking I am the one that started rumors about john] I am not the only Brooke in the world & apparently I am not the only one using that name on here. As for him being accused of murder or something, that is news to me. AS I TOLD JOHN, no I do not agree with him on how he went about things but I have yet to make up one word about him to anyone @ anytime. If anyone wants to ask me a question they can email me. For the record, I will continue to support my family. I am in no way ashamed of who I am or where I came from, nor am I ashamed of (continued)

Posted by: What? on Oct 9, 2008 at 09:52 AM
I would like to ask everyone on that has wrote anything on this site to stop and read every comment on here, even your own. You sound like a bunch of redneck retards. Standing up for a bunch of dumb young hilljacks. These kids are nothing but trouble, and will continue to be nothing but trouble. If the havent all ready, they will be doing drugs and selling drugs to other kids. When will people finally look and see the big picture. These kids didn't steal a bike or a sterio. They are creminals, and deserve whatever the get!

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 9, 2008 at 09:51 AM
It's all well and good to support your family and friends and stand by them throughout. But you're doing it on a WNDU blog, and you're defending their actions by saying the guy that was burglarized is the real criminal. That's sad. And please don't compare Knox to Plymouth, each town has it's issues, but at least Plymouth has a lot of nice things going for it too.

Posted by: Brooke R. on Oct 9, 2008 at 09:39 AM
TO: Friend of the Sandbar Location: Bass Lake on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:39 PM Lets get something straight NOW...I dont know who you are [or think you are] but you have NO RIGHT to say sh-- about myself, oR MY SISTERS! YOU do not know the entire story, if you did you would know that I have (for the most part) stayed out of the the John-Sandbar B.S! The only thing I had to say about john, I SAID TO JOHN! Maybe you should ask him about that. Where you came up with this story of us "making up stories about John...BLA BLA BLA" is really beyond me! Yes, we are all very supportive of Blake, as I am sure you would be if it was someone in your family! SO HOW ABOUT YOU SHOW SOME CLASS & keep your comments to yourself until you have FACTS to talk about! AGAIN, ANOTHER PERSON SHOWING IGNORANCE BY MAKING ACCUSATIONS & ASSUMPTIONS WITHOUT FACTS...People, its time to get over it & let the court do its job!

Posted by: Bob Location: SB on Oct 9, 2008 at 09:17 AM
To: "sad for these people", I know plenty, I know they are repeat thieves, I know about the other stores and homes they have robbed, I know about the car they burned, the list goes on and on. This group is nothing but low class thieves and they are scumbags who think it is okay to rob people over and over again. They are trash, and the family members defending them here and attempting to smear the victims are not only disfuctional, but stupid and selfish. These criminals need to be locked up for a few years, at least 4-6, and the county should demand it.

Posted by: if you only knew Location: knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 06:55 AM
IF YOU ONLY KNEW WHAT WHEN ON AT THE SANDBAR. YES IT'S BAD THAT THEY GOT BROKE INTO BUT HAVING ALL THAT MONEY AND BEING BROKE INTO THAT MANY TIMES COME ON. SOME OF IT WAS A INSIDE JOB, JUST FOR THE INSURANCE. THERE ARE SO MANY UNDER AGE KIDS IN THAT BAR, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKEND. OVER SERVING OF THE CUSTOMERS, JUST TO MAKE THE BUCK. WHAT ABOUT THE INOCCENT PEOPLE OUT ON THE ROAD WITH ALL THE OVER SERVED CUSTOMERS YOU HAVE. NOT TO MENTION THE FIGHTS THAT GO ON IN THERE. THEY TURN THERE BACKS ON THE DRUGGIES AND DEALINGS GOING ON AS LONG AS THEY MAKE THAT DOLLAR. YES THESE KIDS DID WRONG BUT GIVE ME A BREAK THE OWNER IS JUST AS GUILTY. THEY CAN DEFEND THEM SELVES ALL THEY WANT BUT GO IN THERE AND LOOK AROUND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THERE SHOULD BE SOME THING DONE ABOUT ALL THE LAWS THEY BREAK.

Posted by: dorothy Location: oz on Oct 9, 2008 at 05:42 AM
To John (Sandbar owner) and Sarah (his girlfriend), I think you should find out the first and last name of every slanderous person on this site and file charges against them too. Slander is against the law folks. Being stupid and illiterate obviously is not, cause these people are all still out there walking the streets. Your trashing of the victims does not change, or erase the crimes that have been commited, or the sentences that will hopefully be handed down to the criminals who robbed these businesses. I think that Judge Hall should gag order the families of these boys, they are as destructive as their family members.

Posted by: Dorothy Location: oz on Oct 9, 2008 at 05:24 AM
To Brooke: You sound like a rabid dog, and an illiterate one at that. Learn to read, write, and spell, and type. Your anger is displaced, your lies are slanderous, and you are as offensive as the come. I hope I never have the misfortune of meeting such an uncouth young woman as you.

Posted by: SARAH IS RIGHT on Oct 9, 2008 at 05:12 AM
I AGREE HERE WITH HER. I'M CRYING FOR HER. THIS IS HARD TO DEAL WITH. SINCE MY HOME WAS ROBBED TWICE BY THEM CONS.:( Posted by: Sarah Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:45 PM To: concerned parent- you must be gullable... Drug Money?? Are you kidding? Ask the thieves... all of the register tape to account for it all was in the safe, along with the money, in the bank deposit bags. We don't deposit them at 4 am for the safety of the employees... you know- so they don't get robbed! That is why we locked it in a safe that was cemented to the floor! You must just believe everything you hear, huh... By the way, there is no tooth fairy. Sorry to burst your bubble!! All of you can question John & I's character all you want, but those that truly know us know we are good people, and that is all that matters... we are not criminals, so quit tyring to make us out as them... it's old and tiring! Oh yeah, and how is the "PAY FOR BLAKE'S LAWYER - FUND" going? Why don't you just steal it from some business... How absurd! I can't believe you have THE NERVE to ask anyone for money to defend him. But the sad thing is that people are probably giving it to you...

Posted by: Brooke on Oct 9, 2008 at 05:07 AM
So another thing. Ho would these boys that are minors know where your safe is at Sarah? How do they know their ways around that bar. Are you sure you haven't serves minors and got caught so you are setting them up? Maybe you gave them the booze. And got caught and then said you got robbed. We will find you out. They are good boys. I think you and mother killer need to behind bars. YOU GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

Posted by: Brooke on Oct 9, 2008 at 04:57 AM
Well well well going to other sites nd reapting my things. How childish is that. Yes I used to yes USED TOO go to the Sandbar until they serves minors and had a pedifle hang in there which I know I hav no right saying the names so I will use itnitials. Yup a pedfile JPO. That's all I'm saying.

Posted by: dorothy Location: oz on Oct 9, 2008 at 04:26 AM
I am having a hard time understanding the bashing of the sandbar owner and his girlfriend. They were VICTIMS of these crimes, along with others. Please don't add 20 commentaries trying to explain it folks. Nothing ever spoken could change how I feel about them. I am a patron at the Sandbar, way above the legal age of 21. More than twice the age of 21 actually. I have many great memories from my times there, the friends I have met along the way. Guess what folks, NONE of the people I have met there were underage minors! I have seen people carded at the Sandbar in the past, many, many times. I have NEVER witnessed people taking drugs, or drugs being sold. Everyone who is slandering the Sandbar owner and his girlfriend, are you patrons at the bar? Yet you seem to know so much about the workings of the bar! I am horrified that you seem to think they somehow deserved this! It explains the type of children you have raised and what has become their probable fate!

Posted by: Think about this Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 04:02 AM
Attention to the 5000 county residents in favor of an adult trial and the 7 who want them to get a time out. I think the majority has already made all the wonderful points at why these are major acts of felony while the 7 that change screen names for obvious reasons continue to make us yawn at the repetitive remarks they make. Lets all really make a stand by not replying to these nut jobs on this blog going forward. I know it may take a few days for whatever you may post but lets stop all comments by Friday 9pm. This will drive them crazy when they have nobody to bash on here anymore. They may not know how to fill thier day and the silent treatment will have them raging! I have enjoyed the few days off from work but unlike the supporters I have to go back to my job tommorow and earn a living. I look forward to next weeks Leader when the headline goes as follows "3 more counties involved and more charges added" Try and defend that!NOT!!! Call me Mickey Ds cause Im Lovin It. Bye Bye Now

Posted by: Think about this Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 01:51 AM
News Flash........More charges are being put on the guys (because they are not kids) from Pulaski county. You McCannians better get ready to bash more innocent victims here real soon. At least the Coad ,White, and even Flores Family has not been on here making fools of themselves like you have. If they have, at least they are smart enough not to brag about it and I respect that. Everyone has the right to explain how they feel! If Mr. Fletcher talked on the radio would you rip him and his carpet store business with lies? Would you make up false stories like you did about John and the SandBar? I would really think about about it and reflect on all the horrible things you have said. If you have any dignity at all you would make an apology and admit you are just frustrated about the entire situation. If I was John I would consider a legal slander case against you if you had the guts to reveal your full name. Knowing you are thick as thieves I doubt you will because of your tainted history!

Posted by: Ruthy just 1 here Location: kkknox on Oct 9, 2008 at 01:02 AM
Correction on post. I did not say this! I was saying about Brooke saying this """Yes Jenny you are right. the puke from the Sandbar and the chick he dates from there needs to be in prison as well. Yup he serves minors, him or his brother was suspects of their mothers deaths for her insurance. that's the rumor how they are millionares. Who knows I also heard he planned all of this with them kids to get insurance money sinnce he has been sued ans still is getting sued.""" I got that from another site Brooke posted in. I Ruthy think it was very evil for her to say this when it has nothing to do with the bar owners. I just wanted to correct this because I don't even know anyone got murdered.:(

Posted by: Ruthy to Sarah on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM
I'm sorry I thought you meant me. Thank you for your e-mail. I didn' know here was another ruth here. I'm sorry to hear that these crazy people are turning the tables on you.:(

Posted by: Sarah Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM
To: concerned parent- you must be gullable... Drug Money?? Are you kidding? Ask the thieves... all of the register tape to account for it all was in the safe, along with the money, in the bank deposit bags. We don't deposit them at 4 am for the safety of the employees... you know- so they don't get robbed! That is why we locked it in a safe that was cemented to the floor! You must just believe everything you hear, huh... By the way, there is no tooth fairy. Sorry to burst your bubble!! All of you can question John & I's character all you want, but those that truly know us know we are good people, and that is all that matters... we are not criminals, so quit tyring to make us out as them... it's old and tiring! Oh yeah, and how is the "PAY FOR BLAKE'S LAWYER - FUND" going? Why don't you just steal it from some business... How absurd! I can't believe you have THE NERVE to ask anyone for money to defend him. But the sad thing is that people are probably giving it to you...

Posted by: Ruthy on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:42 AM
To who agree with this """that we shouldn't worry about this that we should worry about what they child molesters, murderers, and so on can do."""" But well we should worry about this story since them boys will probably grow up to be people like that. How stupid can you people be???????????? Them boys are low lives. To PROUD Supporter: who are are saying to get a job to people when these boys should get a job instead of steling everyone else hard earned money. You think about that.

Posted by: Sarah Location: Knox on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:32 AM
To PROUD Supporter: My "telling the whole story" was directed at Ruthy for saying that John for was a suspect in his own mom's murder (very untrue)...not the story about the robberies. Nobody knows that except the crooks themselves. As for dating a married man, you should get your stories correct before spouting off at the mouth-he's not married -idiot! I am curious to know why you think we are drug-dealers? That's a new one... As for serving minors, we do everything we can to keep them out. But I don't need to defend myself to you... If you are right about these things, then why haven't we gotten in trouble? Just curious. You can sling all of the rumors you want, but that doesn't make these boys any less thieves. Oh yeah, did you hear about the new charges against the boys in Pulaski County... awww, we should just forget about all of this, they are just kids... BULLS**T! Wait till the charges in Marshall County come out. If u have anything else to say, email me!

Posted by: Lynn Location: N.J. on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:04 AM
TO ALL: Did you hear that they even broke into the prosecutor's house? How dumb can those kids be or gutsy? lol Or was they on some kind of drugs?

Posted by: Can We Be Finished? Location: Reality on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:43 PM
To the Families of these boys....by responding to the comments you are keeping this bog going. Seriously, add up how many you left and you will see that it is a large number. You say people have nothing better to do than bash the boys but you are unaware of the fact you are fueling the fire....people are looking for conflict....something to argue about, and some are feeding off of your rage. PLEASE stop responding to the comments. LKT this blog die

Posted by: Jenna on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:42 PM
to: a mother, please post who the audlt were. They should be reported too.

Posted by: Jenna Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Brooke24 you need to get a life. I bet your living off this stolen stuff too.

Posted by: Ruthy on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Anonymous no one ruined their names, but themselves. Burlary is not just being a kid. What a joke to think that is a kid thing. lol

Posted by: Ruthy on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Sarah you are right. I will contact you in email. Those boys should pay for what they have done. I'm their victim too. Not only once, but twice. I think their side kick called Brooke has been spreading that story. I found out more stuff too. So I'm sorry and I will contact you soon dear.

Posted by: Ruthy Location: kkk-town on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:21 PM
BROOKE excuse me miss sassy pants. It will come out what those brats did to me. YOU ARE like them that why you are taking their side. I wouldn't want you to help me because I had enough stolen.

Posted by: joe schmo Location: knox high school on Oct 8, 2008 at 10:10 PM
The Prosecutor has a month to decide. Thats bull *hit. They are hoping that this media spectacle will slow down a little bit, take the heat off the boys, so they can slap them on the wrist. Try them as adults what more of a decision do they need to make. Quit waisting our tax dollars for an open and shut case.

Posted by: James Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:53 PM
For the record the bar had a total of $12,800 stolen (it is in all 3 police reports.This is displayed for the people who keep saying why did he have $10,000 in cash? It takes a lot of money to run a business and you need plenty of cash for change etc. like the one at work at in Valpo. The place I work at has at least $2000. between the 4 registers just to open everyday. Name of store not being given in case any potential crooks reading this. Im sure John is not in business this long without taking in serious money! That place is packed every weekend and I thought I would say something because I can not believe what cruel and strange things people have wrote on this blog to deflect attention from the crimanals that they are close too! So as I see it who is to say how much money is to much or to little to have stolen and who are we to question how much he makes there? I spend about $80myself anytime I am off work and able to hang out there on a Friday or Saturday night. Logical to me.

Posted by: ktown Location: knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:41 PM
For all of you commenting on how Knox is a trashy town and so on, Sweep your own front porch before you try to sweep ours. Plymouth has more crime then Knox ever thought of having. Or should I call it "Little Mexico" you can't even go into Walmart without worrying about getting your throat slit by all the scanks.Worry about your own "trashy" town. Knox happens to be a very nice town. get over it. The first major story made the news from Knox in years and you have to judge the whole town. you are pathetic!

Posted by: a mother Location: knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Hey, Mike, There are kids in every town (including Plymouth) doing something wrong at any given time. Who cares if these boys were football players or not. They are just kids, and that is the bottom line. What they did was wrong, yes, and they will be punished I am sure. There's no reason for them to have the rest of their lives ruined over this. Oh, Yeah, I couldn't care less if you or anyone else agree w/ anything I say...or believe any thing I say. Nothing you or anyone else on here says will change the fact that these boys have many, many friends and family members standing beside them. Not because we are stupid or blind to what they may have done but because we know that everyone makes a mistake in their lives at one time or the other. Family sticks together...along with good friends. Who cares about any one else????????????

Posted by: Friend of the Sandbar Location: Bass Lake on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:39 PM
I would also like to add that he was broke into 5 TIMES by the same guys because I have seen the video and yes it is them. The 4th time the cops came but no report was made because they did not get any money. They stole some liquor and beer and John could not turn anything else in on insurance because of fear of losing insurance all together. The 5th time they stole hard liquor and a report was not made (see reason for 4th). Anyone who wants the truth can spend the time going to the Prosecuting attorneys office and see the Offenders PUBLIC RECORD. I know John has all the video footage on disc and so do the police. If Blake was going in front of the judge for all 4 businesses the family would most likely make up stories about all of them which shows they have no class. It is guilty people who point fingers in the opposite direction but Im sorry McCan Clan that only works in Pre-School and Fairytale land.To: Brandy,Brooke,Breann Boo Hoo-and Sob Sob because Blakes in a CRIME MOB

Posted by: Jodie Location: North Judson on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:28 PM
I have stayed out of this because I know some of the family members that are involved with this whole situation and I work for JOHN. But you better get all your information right before you start trying to slam people. You don't know much about John or Sarah because your statements is completely false. There has also been information that involves Blakes family that is a total lie. I can tell you everything you have said wrong but that's not the main focus here. I just think it is stupid that people believe everything that they read and are told. I don't know why everyone is on this site trying to be the judge. No matter what you put on this site it is not going to help the boys or help in their punishments. So why not leave it be? Just be there to support the families or owners which ever way you feel. This is just making it harder on the families and owners. It is giving other people false information about everyone involved.

Posted by: Friend of the SandBar Location: Bass Lake on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:19 PM
The reason The McCan family has blasted the owner of the SandBar is because that is the business Blake admitted to Robbing twice. They feel if they Discredit my friend they will gain some support through this blog. It is not going to happen because that is one of the most trustworthy people in this county and he runs a Honest business. If he was crooked he would be in jail or on trial like the thieves that robbed him. Look at the facts... It is public record that Blake has admitted on record that he was involved in 2 break ins at the Sandbar. 6/1/2008 & 6/19/2008. Kenny Flores is on record for 3 break ins 5/30/2008 6/1/2008 & 6/19/2008. Dominick White is only up for 1 break in at Sandbar 5/30/2008/. Ethan Coad has no charges for the Sandbar. If the McCan clan can get a judge or jury (impossible) to dismiss Blakes 2 counts admitted. He would then only have 1 left and not get any punishment at all. It is Sad that they have gone to this low level of blog bashing everyone here. Very Sad.

Posted by: dale Location: judson on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:12 PM
I just want people on this site to know that since we have these two d-1 kids in trouble I have captured the chance to sign as there agent.. two of the other kids on this team and help the qb and reciever get the d-1 chance that they deserve! I have contacted ND and NEB !! and I will see if we can fill those spots that these school offered..thanks

Posted by: dale Location: judson on Oct 8, 2008 at 05:55 PM
I cannot believe that people are still here defendind these KIDS!! WRONG is WRONG!!! How would you like to go to class everyday with these kids? that not right. They seem to think of themselves as special! I have heard that the families are even going to have a fundraiser !! what for? lets all move on and focus on all the GOOD kids in our town and school.. and we lots of them

Posted by: LOL! on Oct 8, 2008 at 05:28 PM
Hey Toughguy BDR: I am guessing you are about 5'7" as not many men in this state are much taller than 5'8" (must be all of the chainsmoking or drug use but that is a different story). I think your "invitation" is funny. All I picture is you stepping out of your monster pickup truck, walking over in your cutoff t-shirt and stopping and standing at my shoulder-height to give me a "chat". BTW, I am a woman! LOL!!!!

Posted by: Daniel Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 05:23 PM
I would like to say “right on” to “Parent Location: North Judson”.I,along with quite a few others,couldn’t agree more!This guy&his g/f are spending time on their computers pointing fingers & giving their opinions on what should happen to these KIDS instead of taking a look at things they have&are doing as ADULTS!Why,after being broke into the 1st,2nd or even the 3rd time would he NOT start putting his $ in a BANK?It’s been said alot of drug deals go on in his bar&that he was in on all of this to scam his ins. after losing his job at a bank,starting to sound right!The other businesses(in this case)are NOT leaving comment after comment regarding restitution!Seems he’s pretty worried about getting this $ back in his pocket&fast,even after being paid by ins.(can't even wait for these KIDS to be found guilty)!What was NOT covered by ins. he probably didn’t have the receipts that “add up to the corresponding cash”.I also don't condone burglary&restitution should be made but not drug money!

Posted by: sad for these people Location: knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 05:15 PM
Bob, My question for you is; Do you have kids? If so, if this was about one of your children would you support them? Think about that long and hard before you go and refer to someone elses child as a "scumbag thief" or accusing them of having a "disfunctionable" family. You apparently do not know these kids or their families so why dont you keep your opinions to yourself until you AT LEAST have all the facts.

Posted by: amom Location: knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 05:07 PM
hey "Stan The Man" from Culver....your post on Oct 2nd is idiotic....all of them were down in Muncie for our homecoming....get your facts straight....you lost because your team sucks and we played better than you did....what a SORE LOSER!

Posted by: Daniel Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 04:41 PM
To: Superfantastic 7 people…really? You’re sadly mistaken if you really believe these CHILDREN only have “7” people behind them! Maybe you should follow your own advice and go to a store, gas station, restaurant or any business and you will see there are A LOT of people behind these kids! You really should read what you post before submitting it! If their supporters are only “hiding” on their computers to defend these kids would any of them be driving around with “spray paint” (actually window chalk) on their cars? Didn’t think so! Obviously you have seen some of their supporters around town with this on their cars…so why didn’t you stop any of them and give your opinion IN PERSON???? Now who’s the one hiding behind their computer???

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 04:21 PM
"Mother" just because you say you know the whole story, do you really expect people to believe you?

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 04:10 PM
I doubt they're the same person, but the Superior Court judge in Plymouth is named Dean Colvin. Either way, Plymouth has never had their best football players involved in a crime like this. One other note, quit talking like you know the "whole story". If that's the case when did you find out, were you an accomplice to the crimes? If you found out after the fact, well, I'm guessing that people that are willing to break into several businesses are also willing to lie about it. Did you ever think about that?

Posted by: BDR Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 03:49 PM
ALL OF YOU......Please take the time to read the article under most discussed headlines called Driver receives prison sentence for hit and run death. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION to the statements the victims son said ""I’m angry at him. I think he should be punished. But i don't hate him and i kind of feel for him." That is a comment made BY A 14 YEAR OLD BOY who just LOST HIS FATHER. My point is: its sad that a 14 year old is showing more compassion and acting much more mature than 95% of you. Time to GROW UP & realize that there are MUCH BIGGER ISSUES IN THIS WORLD TO WORRY ABOUT!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 8, 2008 at 03:26 PM
TO: Steve-O (Knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 08:01 PM) Do you have any idea how stupid you just made yourself look! Read your comment again if not. Wanna talk about everyone in knox being rednecks then turn around say you live there...Do you now realize how dumb that is!!?? If you do own a business...which I'd almost bet my life you dont, I'd really like to know the name of it!! I HIGHLY doubt you played for N.D. or even got to keep the bench warm for that matter. Wanna talk about everyone in knox being rednecks then turn around say you live there...Do you now realize how dumb that is!!

Posted by: a mother Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 03:16 PM
Hey (Dean from Plymouth)...nice to know that you have some inside info on these boys to tell everyone that "more charges are coming, they've been linked to more burglaries in the area".....especially since you live in Plymouth and AREN'T the prosecuting attorney OR the judge!!! Keep feeding the rumor mill and no one is ever going to get the truth. Just to let you know....I do know the whole story. There ARE adults involved in this mess and they HAVEN"T been picked up yet. No one is saying that these 4 boys are denying that they did wrong, nor are they saying that they shouldn't be punished for what they DID DO. They are juveniles and should receive punishment in a juvenile court. Instead of reading these blogs and coming to your own conclusions about these kids and what they did or did not do--- go read a newspaper. These boys are being blamed for some things that happened while they were in Muncie. Better yet, read a Plymouth paper and check out your own problems in your town!!

Posted by: Brooke24 Location: Grovertown on Oct 8, 2008 at 03:06 PM
Look to the right of this screen..... Under "most discussed headlines". Do any of you NOT realize how pathetic it is that this story is getting more attention than child seduction, a hit and run death, and the presidential debate?? HELLO PEOPLE.... GET A LIFE!

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Who cares about football, it's going to be irrelevant in their lives now. This crime and what happens from here is more important.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 8, 2008 at 02:16 PM
To: Sarah (continued) Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:18 PM Thought I'd clear up the issue you are having with why the kids paying for the home detention fees: As the JUDGE stated: They CANNOT be expected to pay for this BECAUSE they have NOT been proven guilty for anything. It was just an agreement made between all parties so they did not have to stay in muncie (costing the state 1000.00 a day) while the prosecuter is TRYING to build a case against them. Hope this helps you out!

Posted by: PROUD Supporter! Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 01:58 PM
To “Sarah” – YOU should feel dumb for saying you would let ANYONE know the truth! Do you really think ANYONE would like to be informed by YOU, considering you a part of the whole situation? Don’t think so! You’re right, let’s leave it up to Kim Hall…not YOU or John crying every chance you get! Burglary is NOT right & neither is sleeping with a married man, dealing drugs or serving MINORS! You are sadly mistaken if you think the “families” care in the slightest bit (or the community for that matter) whether or not YOU are sorry for their torment! I bet they won’t be able to sleep at night now knowing John’s bartender isn’t feeling sorry for them! Do you really think ANYONE has an “pity” for you? NO! They should be held accountable IF they are found guilty, but is NOT up to you or John on how!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 8, 2008 at 01:37 PM
TO :Kersh (Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:22 AM) What the he** does that have to do with anything.....do you think they are less human because [in your opinion] they arent division l??? Im really confused by what your point is supposed to be.

Posted by: Bob Location: SB on Oct 8, 2008 at 01:29 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Brandy and thanks also for letting the entire community know about how proud you are of a low life scumbag thief. Speaks volumes of the type of disfunctional family you obviously have.

Posted by: Brooke Location: knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 01:23 PM
TO: SANE ADULT (on Oct 7, 2008 at 08:47 AM) LMAO..OH PLEASE... Come break into my house tough guy! Hate to tell you that Ya probably wouldnt get real far...but Its cool if ya wanna try! After you break in..I hope your family is as supportive of you as you are of these kids. Then maybe you will know how it feels and learn to not be so quick to judge! You can say whatever you want about me, the fact still stands...I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT these boys & MY FAMILY!!!!! If you dont like it, WHO CARES!!??

Posted by: Kersh on Oct 8, 2008 at 01:20 PM
Yeah, maybe if you deflect the attention to the bar owner everyone will forget about the breaking and entering, theft, reckless behavior, etc. Oh wait, I guess he deserves to be stolen from. Long live the Knox football heroes.

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Sure, blame the bar owner. The reputation of Knox hasn't improved at all thoughout this. People saying "oh it's just one mistake, no big deal". Well, there's a reason these kids aren't playing football right now, there's a reason they're about to have their cases thrown to adult court. I'm sure these kids are good kids, every time something happens like this you have people saying they're really good people. Well, good people sometimes do horrible things and have to be held accountable.

Posted by: Concerned Parent Location: North Judson on Oct 8, 2008 at 12:26 PM
I am a concerned parent in North Judson. I feel like the police and the owner of the Sandbar have let us all down. John lets these young kids in his bar EVERY NIGHT. It doesnt matter what happens to the kids, John only cares about taking their money. I think that if we are going to point fingers at anyone, let's start by pointing the main one at the only real ADULT in this case, John. Where did he get this 10,000 anyway? The man is a criminal. Money should be deposited daily and receipts should all add up to corresponding cash. This man needs to be ran out of town before he kills our children. My son has told me of all of his friends going to the Sandbar on weekends. These are 19 year old kids. I find this insane and it makes me sick that he has gotten away with it for so long. I just hope and pray that someone will stop John. I don't condone burglary by any means, but does anyone seriously care about a man that gets his drug money stolen from a safe in his bar?

Posted by: Kersh Location: Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM
The NSC is one of the worst conferences in the state. None of these kids were going Division I anyway. -Jeremy Crittendon

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Bob-From SB on Oct 8, 8:57am: Goes to show once again that you cannot trust or believe everything you "hear"!! Blake's dad is NOT the bail bondman. His uncle IS the Cheif of the fire department. And yes, he is proud. We are all proud of him. He made A mistake--not several. He is a good kid with a big heart. We are a tight family that supports one another in time of need- not turn our backs and "shun" them and the FIRST sign of trouble. Thank you though for your concern from so far away.

Posted by: LMAO Location: KNOX on Oct 8, 2008 at 12:06 PM
To Bob: Just thought I'd let you know you have heard wrong! McCan's father is NOT the bail bondsman for starke county! Just shows you and everyone else how rumors can get started!

Posted by: Peter Location: Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 10:18 AM
To: "Support the Boys!". Culver is one of the worst teams in the state. Congratulations for beating them at homecoming without a few key players. Most j.v. teams could beat Culver!

Posted by: Dean Location: Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 09:33 AM
"Mother", that's exactly what you're doing. Blogging without knowing the whole story.

Posted by: Bob Location: SB on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:57 AM
I just heard that McCan's father is the bail bondsman for starke county and his uncle is the fire chief. They must be so proud. All eyes are on Kim Hall and all we can do is hope that no favoritism is shown. These young men are criminals and thieves and they have been doing this over and over for quite some time, and the only fair and right thing for the judge to do is try them as adults and send them to prison.

Posted by: Mike Location: Cleveland on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:08 AM
Some of you are right, maybe we shouldn't be on here talking about this. But that's what this forum is for. Just the same, these kids shouldn't have been breaking into businesses and stealing. The difference is big though. People on here talking about a pending case isn't a felony, burglary is.

Posted by: Dean Location: Plymouth on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:06 AM
More charges are coming, they've been linked to other burglaries in the area.

Posted by: Kim Location: Knox on Oct 8, 2008 at 01:11 AM
As far as I am concerned the kids already had a second chance, and a third, and a fourth etc etc. Each successful crime was a chance for them to quit while WAY ahead but they did not quit and NEVER would have. If they regret anything it would be trusting the other people at those parties where they got all the inventory from! These guys thought everyone else had as little morals as hey do and it is the big mouth bragging they did that got them arrested. Everyone is sorry after they get caught and I believe they would have eventually killed someone in a failed robbery and that would have been the saddest thing to have a hard working business owner killed while defending themself from HUGE ass kenny or anyone else involved. It is bee told that they had stolen guns from a local home they robbed! You only carry a weapon like that if you plan on using it. Do you think they would have just quietly sat down and let the police show up if caught in one of those places!

Posted by: carrie on Oct 7, 2008 at 10:06 PM
truthfully, my boy was friends with these boys. and i don't care, i'm a citizen of knox indiana. and i think they should all frekaing be put in jail, i dont give a damn. they are influencing other boys, and probably have peer pressured them. my son has known about this since it has started, dominic tried getting him to do it. they should all be tried as adults. yes.

Posted by: a mother Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 09:37 PM
Instead of trying to hang these boys out to dry - how about we start talking some about the adults that participated in these crimes? No one ever mentions the adults that started this whole thing....news to you isn't it???? One of the adults was questioned and admitted to participating in the robberies....he wasn't even arrested and ran off to Tennessee........I think someone needs to do some further investigating into this whole story!!!! Another bit of news.....there were other people out there breaking into places at the same time these boys supposedly did their break ins. These boys never robbed any gas stations or homes. If you read the local papers you'll also notice how many burglaries happened WHILE they were being held @ Muncie!!!!!!I agree that the boys should be punished (as juveniles) for the things that they DID DO----but don't be blaming them for crimes that other people were out there committing. Get the whole story before you start blogging your stupid opinions.

Posted by: BROOKE Location: KNOX on Oct 7, 2008 at 08:32 PM
To: RUTHY (Location: KKK city, but moving soon. on Oct 6, 2008 at 09:14 PM) How funny is that? I have yet to hear anything about charges that involve a 'ruthy' and I've been in the courtroom everytime! Now isnt that odd??? Why would you wanna sit at the computer and bash on these kids when all you have are more lies and empty accusations.... YOU apparently arent any better! If you need help packing (since you are "moving soon" PLEASE let me know. I would be happy to help! After all, that is one less ignorant person we'd have to deal with in this town!

Posted by: BDR on Oct 7, 2008 at 08:06 PM
To: BLAKE & KENNY: *Should you find yourself the victim of other people's, bitterness,IGNORANCE, smallness or insecurities; remember, things could be worse..... You could be one of them!*

Posted by: BDR on Oct 7, 2008 at 08:03 PM
superfantastic, FYI I will gladly defend them to ANYONE, ANYTIME! If people have nothing better to do than "sit in a restaurant in town" and talk about these kids...apparently they aren't real important anyway, so who cares?? Trust me, I do not need to "hide behind a computer"...If you wanna chat, just let me know!

Posted by: a person Location: - on Oct 7, 2008 at 07:25 PM
they dont know what their talking about dont listen to them im his cousin and he is not what they say he is scared to death so have a heart and liten to me he is the most gentle kind and sweet boy

Posted by: Sarah Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 06:50 PM
These boys should not even be allowed in school. Is anyone familiar with KHS's "GROUNDS FOR SUSPENSION OR EXPULSION" in the school's handbook?? In case you're not..."Grounds for suspension or expulsion are:student misconduct and/or substantial disobedience. Examples of student misconduct and/or substantial disobedience for which a student may be suspended or expelled include, but are not limited to: causing or attempting to cause damage to private property, stealing, or attempting to steal private property. Including any unlawful activity during weekends, holidays, other school breaks, and the summer period when a student may not be attending classes or other school functions." I think this may pertain to the accused... Something for concerned parents, the school board and the administration dept to think about!! Visit: http://www.neola.com/knox-in/ for the full detailed rules!!!

Posted by: Sarah Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 06:32 PM
"Ruth", you should feel dumb for saying what you did about John and I. If you would like to know the truth, feel free to contact me at sarah.a.shaw@hotmail.com, and I will let you in on it, because you have obviously been misinformed. All we want is justice, and lets leave that up to Kim Hall. If these boys didn't want to be put in the spotlight of the community in a bad way, then they shouldn't have committed what they did. As for the families of the accused, I am not sorry for the torment you are going thru, but I would not wish it upon anyone. We went thru plenty of it while worrying whether the people who were robbing the bar were going to try to rob our home, while John's 5 and 8 year old were there asleep, like true "juveniles" are doing between the hours of 3 and 5 am. Imagine trying to sleep with that thought in your mind...wandering how dangerous they could be...I don't pity any of you. The boys should apologize and be held accountable in some way.

Posted by: MOM TO KNOX SCHOOL KIDS Location: KNOX on Oct 7, 2008 at 06:18 PM
everybody needs to STOP JUDGING leave that up to GOD!! as far as the "mccan da man " started last year. so get over it.i feel sorry for the boys b/c they aren't going to get a fair trial here in starke county and that's sad for the comminity.it's sad that there are people so rude in this world.that's way we need to pray for this country to come back to GOD.. may GOD touch every lost soul out there.....

Posted by: ktown Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 05:35 PM
I'm surprised to see how all of you are still on here defending these boys. They post-poned their court date because they found more evidence against them. Maybe if you would put the keyboard away everyone wouldn't feel the need to comment on you stupidity. By the way, WNDU has a job to cover the news around us. They are not smearing their names any more then The Leader, Post Tribune and so on. Don't get mad at them. That is their job

Posted by: J on Oct 7, 2008 at 05:17 PM
Yep, the news website is ruining their reputations. Had nothing to do with anything that THEY did. That's funny stuff right there.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 7, 2008 at 04:53 PM
"Think about this".. you posted on October 6th that the businesses lost $80,000. when and where did you get your information from?? i've never heard of the total loss being that high..are you pulling numbers out of left field or what?? and just because they were involved in these burglaries, does not mean they broke into houses too!!! get your facts!!

Posted by: :/ Location: IN on Oct 7, 2008 at 04:42 PM
You can't tell me that all of you people on here do not have problems of your own so instead of worrying about or talking about the problems that these boys created for themselves..worry about your own!

Posted by: to superfantastic Location: starke county on Oct 7, 2008 at 04:25 PM
yea...we sit behind our computers and defend them because we are too scared to defend them in public..you are soo right!!! NOT!!! if i'm too scared to defend them any place else than here then why do i defend them when someone talks bad about them at my school?....maybe it is because i am NOT scared..i would defend them to your face if i knew who you were!!!! and i've been to some of the restaurants in knox and my sister works at one and not once have i heard or my sister heard people voicing their opinions about it...and as for you saying that everyone but the "7" of us is against them, maybe you should speak for yourself because you are just one person not the entire town...and i know A LOT of people who are supporting them from knox and north judson!!!...and when it comes to the cars...it is WINDOW paint not spray paint not "bumber" stickers as you called them...if you are gonna complain get it right!!!

Posted by: Superfantastic Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 03:50 PM
New name for the school to have "Home of the Convicts" instead of Redskins! The uniforms should be bright orange and have a ball & chain Logo.

Posted by: Teenage girl Location: KNOX..... on Oct 7, 2008 at 03:47 PM
When i was a child like 4 i stole a candy bar what did i get?? time out and a spankin while these boys did steal ALOT more than just a candy bar rotting in jail for years upon years wont do much but make them regret the fact that they messed up major. Years from now they are still gonna regret this and whats that gonna solve? they cant change the fact that wats in the past can never be changed... while some of you feel they should be charged to the fullest extent WRONG they are going to live the rest of their lives being punished look at how all of these people are making good boys names into some of the worst names in a matter of days/weeks/hours If i were the boys i would wish that if you didn't know me or if you didn't go to knox you would stay out of this because apparently IT DOES NOT concern you not to mention all of the ppl that like to trash knox saying we are trash and stuff grow up every county has crime.... Yours is no different!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Brooke Location: knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 03:14 PM
TO: Superfantastic Location: Knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 02:58 PM Again, LET ME SAY, I am the proud owner of one of the vehicles with THE WINDOW CHALK,(I've yet to see a bumber sticker, you jack***) Please feel free to stop me if you would like to talk about this issue. We have always decorated our windows in support of Blake...& we will continue to do so. FYI: Innocent until proven guilty!!! HE IS NOT A FELON!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 03:07 PM
To Anonymous on Oct 6, 2008 at 07:36 PM: If you are so tough, why are you trying to hide behind a computer under the name Anonymous!??? BOY YOU MUST BE TOUGH!!!!

Posted by: Courtney Location: KNOX!!!!! on Oct 7, 2008 at 03:02 PM
SO steve-o knox is jus redneck white trash really???? ya these boys messed up and im sure you've never did a thing wrong a day in your life thats what i love bout these people there are so fast to point fingers they dont remember that they're not perfect... im sure you know only GOD is perfect and hun YOUR NOT GOD!!!! so before you talk any more trash open up your closet and see what falls out...

Posted by: ??? Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 02:55 PM
How dumb can you people be.... KKK..... YA i heard one time knox was bad for it but believe it or not things cange so stop throwing that BS up..... this has NOTHING to do with racisim

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 7, 2008 at 02:12 PM
"Think about this" 8:20 am: Please find me ONE comment that says "they did not know what they were doing was wrong". Just ONE? CASE CLOSED!!! There aren't any! What was said was, "they weren't thinking of the consequences or the severity of it". We have ALL agreed what they MAY have done is WRONG! We are defending that they are kids & DO NOT deserve to be tried as adults. FYI: I have a job, OWN a local business so I do see both sides. The fact of the matter is that SO many are judging these boys as a whole when in FACT there were more involvement by some than others! Take for instance "Knox kid on Oct 6, 2008 at 12:30 PM". Read that. Understand that. NOT ALL OF THOSE BEING BLAMED ARE SUCH HORRIBLE HARDENED CRIMINALS!! Why don't you (and all others with such harsh negative opinions) take into consideration the little brothers & sisters that are reading these blogs and how hurt they must be to be reading such HORRIBLE things about those they love so much in an already traumatic time.

Posted by: PROUD Supporter! Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM
To: Think about this - (continued) Maybe their families all DO have jobs, maybe that’s why they are not on here setting you straight! Maybe you should do the same…get a job and/or a life! Whatever it takes to give you something better to do than to sit on the computer making comments about something you obviously aren’t intelligent enough to THINK ABOUT before posting!

Posted by: PROUD Supporter! Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 12:32 PM
To:Think about this - How about YOU think about THIS… Whenever ANYBODY breaks the law, of course, they are thinking they are not going to get caught! Therefore, they do not think about the consequences! No different than someone driving 80 mph down the highway or a drunk driver getting behind the wheel thinking they will not get caught! These boys were in the wrong IF they have done these things! They have NOT been found guilty! Read the WHOLE article before commenting…these are ALLEGED crimes! There have already been 2 false arrests in this SAME case! THINK ABOUT THAT before looking more STUPID than YOU DO! What kind of moron would suggest the families have these t.v.’s or would be “sucking down the rest of the stolen liquor”???? You idiot, don’t you think their houses would’ve been searched for these items??? Just because a CHILD gets into some trouble DOES NOT mean that the families are involved in the crimes! Do you realize how stupid YOU sound? (continued)

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 7, 2008 at 11:39 AM
It's funny to see all the cars decorated in support of these boys like they are on their way to a pep rally. It amazes me. I grew up in a small family run business and I have felt the effects that burglary can have. I feel no sympathy for these boys. They knew right from wrong and they knew what the consequences could be if they got caught. And where are the parents in this situation? Where were they when their boys were robbing the town blind?

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 7, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Maybe they did stop before they became suspects, but didn't the one business get broken into 5 times? Did they turn themselves in, or did they just decide to stop during football season? The bottom line is these 'kids' made a big mistake and will pay for their actions. These weren't "kid" crimes.

Posted by: Toby Location: South Bend on Oct 7, 2008 at 09:52 AM
Shaun, since there are "far more worst things" going on in this world, would it be ok if I just slashed your tires or set your house on fire? That wouldn't be so bad, now, would it? P.S. Your English teacher is ashamed.

Posted by: sane adult on Oct 7, 2008 at 09:47 AM
Brooke ,I know where you live. When I break into your house I hope you help me get off scott free also. You are so naive it is pitiful!

Posted by: Think about this Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 09:20 AM
If they did not know what they had been doing was so wrong and not think about what action might be taken against them if caught? Why did they go to such Great lenghts of preparation to wear hooded shirts over thier heads to try and hide thier faces, work in the dark so no passing vehicles would notice them inside, and sneek out to those places between 3 and 5 am? OH they sound real uneducated on what might have happened to them if caught! CASE CLOSED!!! The poor sad boys did not know...Give us all a break and try to answer those questions without looking even more stupid than you have already proven you are. I bet half that family has most of those stolen TVs and are sucking down the rest of the stolen liquor. That might be why they are so upset because the gravy train of stolen merchandise has been derailed and they may actually have to all go get jobs now instead of sitting back and benefiting from all the stolen goods! This little hick type mob has been busted and its Payback time!

Posted by: superfantastic Location: Knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 09:01 AM
All 7 of the people who support them should walk in any restaurant in town and hear what everyone thinks about your precious criminal friends. Your little circle here hiding on your computers is the only place that you can defend them. I can tell you that everyone other than you in this town is ashamed and wants these men to get the book thrown at them. Go ahead and spray paint a few cars of support but the reality is that Bush has a better chance at getting elected again than these punks getting to walk free. This has nothing to do with a few of them that played football because they are criminals 1st that has made a mockery of the county police dept. for 8 months with Adult crime activity. Im sure the business owners thought this was a well organized crime ring from some big city. The well organized crime ring is in fact these local residents and the story is shocking because they had promise to have good careers and they flushed it away with up to 15 counts of Major Theft.

Posted by: shaun Location: knox on Oct 7, 2008 at 06:25 AM
to shelby everyone has the right to voice their opinion. There is far more worst things going on in this world. For instance the murders of children, molestation of children, and raping. I would say that is more important and something that not only harms a child mentally but physically as well; and you don't see that being a top story. I agree these boys did wrong. I know they regret what they did. But I believe these boys should be given a second chance. Things are only going to get worse for this economy and I think this is a little sad that this is such a big deal when there is so much more important things going on in this world. You people need to get a life and stop cornering athletes because they did wrong. Open your eyes and look around, just think if it was your child you would feel the same way as their parents do whether they are in the wrong or right.

Posted by: to superfantstic... on Oct 7, 2008 at 12:28 AM
"bumber" stickers haha don't you mean bumper sticks?? haha and it's not stickers it's window paint and since they haven't been convicted how can you call them felons??

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 7, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Here's another article by Wndu that reveals the identities of juveniles when it shouldn't. this could ruin their reputations. i thought their names were supposed to be confidential to protect them.

Posted by: :) Location: starke county on Oct 6, 2008 at 09:26 PM
hey lucy if all of us supporters disgust you then maybe you should stay off this site...no matter what you say about us or them we are STILL going to support them...most of us have known them for a long time so excuse us if we do not want to just drop them with no concern to how they are feeling...they are just kids and need support...yes what they did was wrong but when you are friends with them you look past that and still like them...id hate to know you personally since you seem so quick to judge!!!...

Posted by: famous? Location: k-k-k-nox on Oct 6, 2008 at 09:23 PM
I see those boys are just trying to be famous and they succeded and laighing their shiney hineys off at everyone.

Posted by: Ruthy Location: KKK city, but moving soon. on Oct 6, 2008 at 09:14 PM
I'm sorry if I sound rude, about anything, but I was one of their victims. Yes i think they should have the book thrown at them.

Posted by: To mike (2:36pm) Location: Starke County on Oct 6, 2008 at 09:05 PM
i will elaborate for you... yes.. they tripped, fell and landed on the alcohol and money... yea..that's what they did ..why don't you just stick to things in Cleveland... no need for you to get wrapped up in things that don't even concern you

Posted by: Well... Location: starke county, IN on Oct 6, 2008 at 08:47 PM
To lucy...you have got to be kidding me..calling me the idiot..i said they had no idea how much trouble they could get in because they don't have degrees in law...did i say because they dont have a law degree that they can't tell the difference between right and wrong?? don't think i did sweetie... maybe you should get your eyes checked..seems to me you have a problem reading!!! and i disgust you?? you are joking, right.. when did any of us say it was ok what they did?? we just think that they don't need to be tried as adults..so why don't you just not worry about things happening in starke county and worry about things in your county!

Posted by: Think About This Location: Knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 08:43 PM
If they each stole a new car today from the local dealerships worth $12,000 each ($48,000)they would be put away for years for Grand Theft Auto! The fact is that with the 4 businesses that they stole from the total loss is Over $80,000! Not to mention the other Homeowners and Businesses that these guys Robbed but can not point a finger because they dont have video evidence! Lets see how many homes and local businesses get broke into this month while these jags are on a home monitoring device. My guess is that crime will drop about 80% this month alone while the fab 4 are under the microscope. As for the family I understand your soap box baby blogging but the reality is you are an embarrassment to yoursdelves for making such public remarks and you are going to have the overall I.Q. of starke county lowered just for you being here! I would bet any of the girlfriends will be saying "why the hell did I stand up for those Losers in a few months after you break up! Get over it and grow up now

Posted by: To jim location SB @ 7:16 Location: starke county on Oct 6, 2008 at 08:37 PM
obviously you have no idea what is going on because if you did, you would know that these boys stopped way before they were even thought of as suspects. so you really shouldn't say that if it wasn't for the video what would they be stealing tonight. it makes you should stupid. :)

Posted by: sue Location: knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 08:30 PM
i have a question to ask the residents of starke county; suppose judge hall treats these criminals as juveniles, gives them a slap on the wrist, leaves them in their homes and their communities. how will you really feel about them when you see them walking down the street in knox, knowing what they did? you are kidding yourselves if you think that the first thing that will enter your mind is "what a great football player blake was". realistically, the first thing that you will think of is "i remember when he was in high school he robbed several businesses and got away with it. kind of makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, huh? if you see one of them walking past your house and suddenly you remember you have left the garage door open, you then have to hurry out to shut the door, just in case they have checked out your belongings. psychologically what some of you bleeding hearts want people to feel, is not realistic. you will always remember first and foremost that they are thieves.

Posted by: Steve-O Location: Knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 08:01 PM
I agree with Kertucky. I know these punks. Yes, they play football. But, no, they are not athletes. I played football at ND. I was an athlete. These losers are Knox redneck whitetrash. After they graduate, they will probably be low wage low life living on govt assistance. This morons are inbred hicks. Which is common in these deep neck of the woods. I live in Knox because I own a business here. The wages are cheap to pay.

Posted by: marie Location: knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 07:59 PM
those kids shouldn't get away with it, and they ARE back in school.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 6, 2008 at 07:36 PM
For all of those that say McCan can kick everyones a** well your wrong. because i made the kid run away.

Posted by: jim Location: SB on Oct 6, 2008 at 07:16 PM
These "Kids" just made a mistake, they got caught on video. if it wasn't for that, what would they be stealing tonight?

Posted by: Superfantastic Location: Knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 05:24 PM
Lets get some bumber stickers That Say "Throw McCan In McPrison" How sick is it that people have stickers that support a felon... Yes a Felon!

Posted by: Superfantastic Location: Knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 02:58 PM
I heard that the prosecuter now has even more time to stack this already slam dunk case because the hearing was continued. Ken and chimp face Blake are going to the big house 4 SHO. Ethan and Dominic will get the children charges as they are hoping for. My friend overheard the judge talking on Saturday afternoon!

Posted by: Mike Location: Cleveland on Oct 6, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Please elaborate, what exactly is the REAL story? Did they trip, fall, and land on the alcohol and money?

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Oct 6, 2008 at 02:31 PM
I also meant to say that you don't have to have a degree in law to even think about how much trouble you could get in. Doesn't matter, it was wrong shouldn't have done it. That's ALL they had to think of....but didn't.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Oct 6, 2008 at 02:24 PM
"To Well...." honey, you are a complete idiot if you think you have to have degrees in law to know the difference between right and wrong. You disgust me along with everyone else on here defending these thieving thugs--you're telling them it's ok and they don't have to deal with the consequences. You're just as low as them.

Posted by: JAKE on Oct 6, 2008 at 02:16 PM
WELL THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH PCS. THE CRIMES SHOULD STILL BE HANDLE LIKE THE OLD DAYS. SO DUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Posted by: Knox kid on Oct 6, 2008 at 01:30 PM
To all those posting comments, listen up. My brother is currently on trial (rip on me if you want) for one count of burglary and one count of attempted burglary. I love him but he does deserve to be punished. However, get this, all my brother did was sit in the car. He didn't even know what was going on until another boy came back with a safe. Do you honestly think he should be charged as an adult? Would YOU call the police on your best friend? Obviously that would be the morally right thing to do but when you're sixteen do you think about whats morally right? My brother is a loyal kid and I'm sure he would die for any of his friends, let alone call the cops on them. One more thing, I'm a twenty first century scholar and I recently scored a 2100 on my SAT. I've lived in Starke County my entire life. Poor does not mean dumb.

Posted by: Walkertucky Location: Walkertucky on Oct 6, 2008 at 12:59 PM
It's KNOX for goodness sake!! The home of the KKK in Indiana! The bizarre answers and calls of "support" for these criminals comes from their backwoods community. The entire town is nothing but hilbillies and rednecks who still have issues with "The Law"...and it goes back to the moonshine days! You can take them out of the backwoods and put shoes on their feet, but they still are rednecks!

Posted by: Me Location: Knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 12:31 PM
The POINT is....NOT ALL of them did things over and over and over again! Why cant you people comprehend that???? How about everybody...sit back, shut up, and see what happens. Quit being so quick to judge. NONE of this is really anyones business except the ones that are actually being affected by this situation. Everyone else needs to focus on their own life and issues and quit putting so much time into other peoples.

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Why is so much time being spent on here defending these boys? Because 1. they have NOT been convicted 2. Their (and family) names are being smeared 3.We feel the need to defend and protect when WE know the REAL story. There are more people involved than those stated here and some have more involvement than others. These boys are being judged as a whole when in fact they are very different. Some of "these boys" MAY have been involved once, while others MAY have been involved several times. We all know right from wrong and though it may have been once or 10 times, right is right and wrong is wrong but the general public should not be so quick to judge or state their opinion on what kind of "punishment" these kids should have without knowing the facts or extent of their involvement.

Posted by: Raven Location: portage, indiana on Oct 6, 2008 at 11:15 AM
also, for whomever said starke county is "one big trailor park" well fyi buddy i live in porter county, and all were turning into is the new Gary. so don't even try that one

Posted by: Raven Location: Portage, Indiana on Oct 6, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Anyone who tells you these boys deserve the most strict punishment clearly has not looked back on cases in the past. you are correct by saying that what the boys did was wrong, however you must also consider the fact that many criminals that have let go on bonds, or services, for doing more disturbing things then these boys have. If this was to happen again, sure they should serve time. but i can more than promise you that these boys have learned there lesson. i love ya boys, and "rav-dawg" has faith in ya.

Posted by: M Location: V on Oct 6, 2008 at 10:08 AM
OJ, you are not guilty of being a good speller. I know of someone quite close to the person next to me that committed a non-bodily harm felony when he was a kid and did not get caught. Believe me, they're hurting and karma will stay on their A. As business owner said, they are lucky they are still alive and have a chance to pay back society. Although I like the Brooke-ittude, repeatedly committing crimes is not always part of being a kid.

Posted by: Glad to be out of there on Oct 6, 2008 at 10:08 AM
I am just curious, How can anyone defend what these boys have done? Seriously, these boys are old enough to understand right from wrong. And smart enough to know the severity of consequences they may face if caught. They got caught and should now pay. It just shows how ignorant and uneducated people on here are. They commited a serious crime and deserve more than a slap on the wrist. Yah, people make mistakes but this is just more than bashing mailboxes.

Posted by: Shelby Location: Shaun of knox on Oct 6, 2008 at 08:42 AM
To Shaun of Knox - I certainly made a few blunders in my life but I NEVER committed a felony that these young men are accused of. There is a big difference. I am stunned by the support these crimminals are getting from the community. Had you been their victim, your comments would be completly different.

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 6, 2008 at 08:14 AM
I don't understand how some of you think you'll "see them playing again". It won't be for Knox, and unless they show NAIA or Division 3 games on television I don't see how it's gonna happen. Some big time athletes can do something like this and still get a Division I shot, these kids aren't at that level. Either way, who cares about football, their lives are more important. They're most likely not getting off, but they aren't going to prison for 5 years either. I assume they'll spend 6-12 months paying for this, but that should be enough to learn from this.

Posted by: ????? Location: Knox on Oct 5, 2008 at 10:52 PM
It seems like Blake mcCans family is spending all day on this blog making excuse after excuse. Saying Blake could kick someones a** and everything else brings alot of negative attention to your family. Try shutting the computer off.

Posted by: Well... Location: IN on Oct 5, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Maybe these boys knew it was wrong..but maybe they just didnt know how much trouble they could get into if they were to get caught..they dont have degrees in law...

Posted by: shaun Location: knox on Oct 5, 2008 at 09:37 PM
everyone has done stupid stuff in their lifes when they were younger nobody is perfect i think they need another chance my heart goes out to the boys an their families an hope to see them playing real soon

Posted by: OJ Simpsom Location: vegas on Oct 5, 2008 at 08:49 PM
Welcome to state pen. boys

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 5, 2008 at 07:40 PM
what do expect out of Starke County? this doesnt surprise me at all. That county is like one big trailer park. lock them up, make an example out of them, maybe their classmates will open their eyes.

Posted by: Julie on Oct 5, 2008 at 07:24 PM
They CHOSE not to be "kids" and have "kids" rights when they committed these repeated premeditated thefts. It doesn't matter if they're football players or not, they broke the law, it's that simple. Anybody who's whining about them being "too young" for their names to be published...doesn't understand the seriousness at hand. Also, publishing the name of a young criminal is not the same as publishing the name of a young victim. Once, again these young criminals chose to give up that right to be anonymous. On another note, I sincerely hope the person who posted as a Knox High School teacher isn't really a teacher. God help the students if they really are a teacher and that's all the better spelling & grammar they have. Also, I find it in poor taste that the police are posting on here, if it's really the police postign. To the Sandbar owner ~ don't defend yourself, it's not necessary, you're the victim here.

Posted by: Concerned Business Owner Location: Indiana on Oct 5, 2008 at 06:20 PM
This story is sad all the way around, for everyone involved. These young men knew what they were doing and continued doing it, I think they did know the consequences, how could they not? They CHOSE to continue stealing. They are lucky the were caught before they were shot, most business owners would shoot a burgler, I would.....but, with that said, I do pray for the families and hope they can pull through this terrible situation.

Posted by: ..... Location: Starke County on Oct 5, 2008 at 05:52 PM
ok these boy are kids, but they should have to be punished for their crimes. They should have to pay back all costs (money, damages, alcohol), they should get house arrest, probation, and a lot of community service.

Posted by: Donny Location: Knox on Oct 5, 2008 at 03:26 PM
Jake: back in the day they didnt have computers, tv's, that kind of thing...does that mean we should just not use them now? Back in the day mothers would teach their kids "if you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say anything at all" So maybe you should keep your mouth shut since you are so all about what it was like "back in the day"!

Posted by: Brooke Location: Knox on Oct 5, 2008 at 11:59 AM
TO ??????? (aka: another one not smart enough to even come up with a name) WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO?? Not ALL of these kids confessed to anything! I'm pretty sure it says you are from knox too, and you wanna talk about everyone being a dumb hillbilly? LMAO...what a flippin dumb***!

Posted by: Brooke24 Location: knox on Oct 5, 2008 at 11:54 AM
To PROOF IN THE PUDDING, you are a perfect example of someone(along with 95%of the ignorant people on here) that none of you have any idea what in the he** is going on. NONE of you know the ENTIRE TRUTH and still want to be so quick to judge. Apparently you dont even know who is being charged with what! They do not have equal charges, some far less than others! These are kids & often kids do not realize they are not invincible until its to late. THATS PART OF BEING A KID! Are you to old OR JUST TO STUPID to remember that? How often have you drove over the speed limit? Bet it wasnt til after you got caught that you stopped to think "oh yeah, I had better slow it down"! Trying to compare these KIDS to OJ is a bit dramatic dont ya think? I think you need to go turn on the news & see people get away with WAY WORSE! Killers have got less attention than these KIDS! For the record, NOBODY is saying the GUILTY need to "get away" with this.. We just dont feel they need to be hung over it!

Posted by: parent Location: starke on Oct 5, 2008 at 09:49 AM
i feel real bad for the families of these boys and i feel bad for them too becus they did not think of what was going to happen to them if they got caught . but we still have a very good football team with some amazing players on it and for people to say that we are missing the best player on the team and the star players,that isnt true, yes they were and r great players but their r players on that team that r just as good as kenneth and blake, from the games that i have watch the quarterback is a great kid and a great football and the other wide reciever is a great player too i seen in the paper where he recieved the tyler roth award for the judson game i was at that game and they both played great and and i was told that they both have been contacted by colleges. so there is more on that football team than just blake and kenneth. the linebackers and the lineman on that team r very good too and maybe they have been contacted by a college too. good luck redskins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jake on Oct 5, 2008 at 04:02 AM
And they are complaining that they will lose their football scholarships if convicted. Too bad should of thought of that first. Back in the day they would hang you for stealing. I think we should go back to them days, and then maybe everyone would leave everybody's hard earned stuff alone. I hope they try them as adults!!

Posted by: Ruthy Location: K-Nox on Oct 5, 2008 at 02:56 AM
STARKE P.D. OFFICER not just only sat on the bench in high school. he sits in the booths in every restaurant now eating glazed dough nuts and drinking POTs of coffe for nothing just like all of the pigs in Starke County. 16 or 17 year old from hamlet. you outta cry your eyes out. just wait until you get robbed or burglarized for everything you worked for and have your home and privacy invated. These boys are jusr young OJ Simpsons. GIVE THEM TIME TO DO MORE CRIME. Yes Jenny you are right. the puke from the Sandbar and the chick he dates from there needs to be in prison as well. Yup he serves minors, him or his brother was suspects of their mothers deaths for her insurance. that's the rumor how they are millionares. Who knows I also heard he planned all of this with them kids to get insurance money sinnce he has been sued ans still is getting sued. I can go and on about them too. lol Mccans Still Da Man - Well I got news for you. You know you can get robbed or burlarized too. See how you will like it?!!! This could go to all the ones that are babying these boys after they commited horrible crimes over 15 times. Come on now, get real. ?????- Well good that they confessed. They should work their butt hard 12 hours a day and pay everyone back. That will teach them. Yes this county makes me sick all the hillbillis like them kids and their pathtic families. Dunno - you are right. they need to slave and pay every cent back. As for you 17 year old you need to get a life too along with them kids and quit causing heart ache. b Location: bass lake is right. Amen to that.

Posted by: Proof in the pudding Location: Knox on Oct 5, 2008 at 01:35 AM
Dont forget to pack plenty of soap on a rope because the Verdict is Guilty 100% on all counts and nobody can say otherwise because if they are not then the judge is going to lose his job for screwing those business and possible homeowners out of a sure restitution! Guilty Guilty Guilty so quit your cry baby blogs to save them now.

Posted by: Proof in The Pudding Location: Knox on Oct 5, 2008 at 01:29 AM
I am glad I found this blog tonight beacuse I read all the entries and have the following conclusion,,,,, These bandits out smarted not only the cops for eight months but they should get an Emmy for the good fellow acting job hey did on the family. Maybe they can play leading roles at the state prison theatre? Would someone please look at the few defending them because they are obvious meth heads or crack heads to be this dumb! Dont forget your soap on a rope when you get sent to the Big House!

Posted by: ????????????????? Location: somewhere on Oct 5, 2008 at 01:07 AM
everyone should pray for the boys and their famiies there is no excuse for what they did and they should be punished for what they did. it doesnt mean that people should hate them or talk bad about them either. people do make mistakes and hopefully they will learn from this. we do have football players that didnt do anything wrong and that r being looked at by colleges too, not just the boys that the media r talking about we have alot of players that r great players and have alot of potential and for peolpe to say that the best player is gone from that team or they lost their star players is bull we have plenty of players that r just as good as the players that r missing. the whole team is trying to deal with this whole mess and for people from other towns to call us hillbillies and other names you dont know us so dont make comments about people that didnt have a thing to do with what happened. good luck redskins !!!!

Posted by: Ruthy on Oct 5, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Thought you all would like to ee this as well. http://www.post-trib.com/news/porter/1184235,knoxarrests.article

Posted by: Ruthy on Oct 5, 2008 at 12:58 AM
amen to the proof of pudding. i agree.

Posted by: Proof in The Pudding Location: Knox on Oct 4, 2008 at 11:38 PM
If the court screws up and does not at least send the 2 17yr olds to Adult court since they are better than most Adult crooks at getting away with major theft multiple times then I will be Shocked! OJ was set free and look at the news today he went to Prison for the rest of his life! A crook learns early and it is programmed in the brain to lead that kind of life. These People are close to 18 anyway so do not waste a chance to give a real punishment and toss them behind bars for some quality time with others that did far less to get there. Are these dudes less criminal than someone who drove over the limit? I didnt think so! The major majority is in favor of real punishment while 5 or 6 relatives keep republishing a Boo Hoo story for them. We dont buy it and if the Judge lets them go with more Babysitting at home than that will be a Bigger story than this one. Go and watch the news and see people in other towns do way less and get sentenced. This is the way it is and how it should be!

Posted by: Stayce Location: Not Knox on Oct 4, 2008 at 10:27 PM
To TEACHER @ KHS, As the aunt of one of the kids being charged, I wanted to thank you on behalf of the family. Let it be agreed upon that they need to be punished. But reading this blog gives me the impression that anything short of hanging these boys will not be good enough..... there are way too many hate filled and down right hurtful comments. I just pray that those of you that feel the need to beat us into the ground, never experience the pain of what we are going through we love our kids just like everyone else and nobody Expects the LAWS to change just because they play ball. WE did not choose the headlines, as matter of fact, the first time they were refered to as "stars" was when thier names were fist released as "CRIMINALS". Yeah, Its a big story now that they are "Football stars"..... Our family has endured far more than what many of you "think" you know and it is NOT an excuse for this behavior, but crucifing these kids like this crucifies the families as well

Posted by: Chuck Location: Winamac on Oct 4, 2008 at 08:42 PM
"Student" at 9:31 makes a very good point. Anybody can get on here and say they are anybody. He sure got me. But, what puzzles me are these types of comments; "give these boys what they deserve." What is that? "Football players should be treated like everybody else." What is that? "Throw the book at them." what's that mean? "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." How much time? "Treat them like adults." What would happen to a similarly situated adult? Does that "adult" have a clean record, like these boys? Does it matter if the "adult" is 18, 28, or 38? How much time is too much? How much time is too little? What exactly is a "slap on the wrist?" What exactly would "ruin their lives"? It is easy to come up with all of your cliches, but a little more difficult to get right down to brass tacs. Is there a sentence that is perfect, that would guarantee that they never do this again? I don't think so. What they "deserve" seems to depend on who is doing the talking

Posted by: Mccans Still Da Man Location: Knox on Oct 4, 2008 at 07:10 PM
TO all that were worried about the vehicles driving around town with the "mccans still da man" on it... I AM THE OWNER OF ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DRIVE IT PROUD! If you have an issue with this please feel free to stop me, I'd be happy to tell you about it.

Posted by: Hmm... Location: Starke County on Oct 4, 2008 at 06:54 PM
it's really funny to see how someone with absolutely no ties to these boys can get on here and post negative comments about them..if your son did this would you want these things posted about them?? I'm sure now you would say "Oh my son would never do that" or "If my son did this he would deserve what he gets" of course you could say things like this now because it's not your son..you can't understand how these families or friends feel because you aren't directly hurt by this..so maybe instead of spending your time on here complaining about these boys you should spend time with your kids and make sure they aren't doing anything like this...i would be doing the same but i am only 16 and do not have kids..and by NO means am i bashing the mothers of these four boys..they are not bad parents..they just thought they could trust their boys..

Posted by: Wow! Location: Starke County on Oct 4, 2008 at 06:17 PM
You people are sad...sitting on your computers all day commenting on things you have absolutely no clue about..haha makes me laugh..i'm only 16 years old and can see that no matter how much blogging you do about these boys, the final decision won't be up to you..yes it may not look good for our community but it happened and you can't change it by talking bad about these boys...really people you need to go get lives...

Posted by: ????? Location: Knox on Oct 4, 2008 at 06:09 PM
HELLO, These boys have already confesed. A lot of you need to get a life! Starke County makes me sick with all the hillbilly's. We will find out Monday so everyone can go on with there everyday life. GIVE US A BREAK!

Posted by: dale Location: judson on Oct 4, 2008 at 03:23 PM
I think these boy did wrong and need to pay the price like everyone else!! What about the other young men on the football team that did nothing wrong and now are short handed! I have heard that the qb and the other reciever are being looked at by several D1 schools and now they may be hurt on the field for something they never had anything to do with! So when we feel sorry for the guilty lets not foeget the hurt that the innocent will feel

Posted by: Mccans STILL da man! Location: Knox on Oct 4, 2008 at 02:35 PM
To REDSKIN FAN: (@ 3:57)...You have got to be one of the biggest idiots on this page so far! I truely hope that wasn't supposed to be like seriously funny because the only thing "funny" about it is that someone can actually be so stupid!! For the record though....I'd guarantee Blake could kick your a** and run circles around you with his "criminal bracelet" on and his hands tied behind his back...YOU MORON, NEED TO GET A LIFE!! JEALOUSY WILL CONSUME YOUR LIFE....I'd say you should probably get some help with that issue soon.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Knox on Oct 4, 2008 at 02:10 PM
Should the business owners pay for the crime? These boys not only broke the law but they have cost these businesses a very large amount of money. This is not something that should be swept under the rug and left to the Juvenile courts. It's time for the courts to give these boys what they deserve.

Posted by: dunno on Oct 4, 2008 at 12:26 PM
for one Yes everyone makes mistakes, but to keep doing it is another thing. These kids did a lot. Should they get 2 years in prison NO, but they should get a lot of community service and have to spend some weekends in jail. They should be an example for other kids that think they can get away with it. If you let these kids off easy then WHEN it happens again and you KNOW it WILL, then what are you going to do give them more then what these kids get?

Posted by: J Location: Indiana on Oct 4, 2008 at 11:51 AM
I dont' care who u are, relatives, friends, teammates, I don't care. These kids committed a CRIME. They should be punished just like any other person would be punished for the same crime. Say what you want, if this happened to you, you would want the same punishment for whoever did it to you.

Posted by: b Location: bass lake on Oct 4, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Hello! Reality check. Those boys chose to break the law. They chose to continue to do so. They are responsible. Those who should have been watching over them are responsible. Stop blaming everyone and everything else for their actions.

Posted by: kaya t Location: hamlet on Oct 4, 2008 at 10:58 AM
i have actually went to school with all of them before i had moved i am still in shock since last week and they say that was mccan in the video i dont think so the one in the video was to skinny mccan is more built all that ever runs in my head anymore is WHY WHY WOULD THESE BOYS DO THIS???? i will keep all of there families in prayer.... and i will be in that courtroom monday to be with all of them right by their sides... i dont think they should be claimed as adults god forbid they are my age and are still minors they should still recieve another chance and just be on house arrest for 6 to 8 months just imagine what there families are going through expecially all of these bad remarks everyone is saying you all are cold hearted very cold hearted there families are going through alot let alone me everytime i get on this and read the comments i start to cry cause of all the bad remarks they had said i can actually say that i think one of them wouldve done it but not the other three

Posted by: zip Location: the real world on Oct 4, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Many of you have chimed in are being absolutely stupid cause you have no knowledge of this case.You dont know if was these boys or not, you dont whos been charge what, you know the avidence except a what the sandbar gave ch.16 A GRAINY VIDEO that most of you have relative that could fit those imgaes.If they are truly gultiy and the justice system finds them to be they will be punished accordlly. In closing dear John YOU KNOW ALL THE ILLEAGLE ACTIVIY THAT GOSE ON IN YOUR BAR when YOUR OPEN if i were you i would stop crying in the media before the next time the cops throw the and cuffs, its on you. I know these things to because i have been your bar.I will say this no one desreves to be robbed not even you John. You are a business man for you and your family but you are by no means a martyr and/ or most defently not inoccent so watch your back the next time the sanbar is on this blog people maybe putting preconcived ill informed comments about you so do the commutiy a favor your bar first

Posted by: Student Location: Starke County on Oct 4, 2008 at 09:31 AM
As a student who drank some of the stolen alcohol, here are the facts, 1. At least 8 other students were involved, one from North Judson and a footballer from Jimtown. 2. Some of the stolen property was stored at a relative's house and the relative knew about it. 3. The reason the Sandbar was broken into several times is because the owner was in on it so that he could scam the insurance company. 4. Right now,one of the stolen TVs is in the house of a well-known businessman and supporter of the football team. 5. Everything you just read is completely made up. This is a reality check for you people. This is an anonymous internet blog. Anybody can say that they are anybody and say anything, yet you are all so gullible that if you read it, you believe it. I am not a student from Starke County, and I don't know anything about the case except what I read here. I could say that I am a police officer, but I am only a 14 yr. old having fun aggravating you. Wise up!

Posted by: ROBERT Location: NORTH JUDSON on Oct 4, 2008 at 03:06 AM
ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS HOW THE HEC DID THE MEDIA GET AWAY WITH PLASTERING THESE JUVENILES NAMES IN THE PAPER AND ON T.V. I WAS SURPRISED. I HOPE TERRY TURNER IS READING THESE BLOGS. I WAS IN THE COURT ROOM LAST MONDAY AND I WAS SHOCKED AT HIS APPEARANCE, HE DIDN'T EVEN CLIP HIS TOENAILS, SWEAT SHORTS, DIRTY T-SHIRT AND FLIP FLOPS, REAL CLASSY WHAT A PROFESSIONAL "NOT". ALSO IV'E BEEN IN MANY COURTROOMS AND SEEN MANY OFFENDERS,THESE KIDS LOOKED SCARED. I KNOW DOMINIC AND WAS SHOCKED TO FIND THIS OUT ABOUT HIM. FROM THE TIME I HAVE SPENT WITH THIS GUY HE WAS A FINE YOUNG MAN AND STILL IS IN MY EYES. HOWEVER IF HE HAS DONE WRONG HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED BY THE LAW, BUT FAIRLY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. ALSO A COMMENT ABOUT THE SECURITY TAPE, I CAN'T TELL WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE CAN, OTHERWISE THESE KIDS WOULD HAVE BEEN ROUNDED UP MONTHS AGO SHORTLY AFTER POLICE VIEWED THE TAPE.

Posted by: ROBERT Location: NORTH JUDSON on Oct 4, 2008 at 02:47 AM
IT'S A SHAME THESE KIDS ARE NOT GOING TO RECIEVE A FAIR TRIAL NOW THAT EVERYONE IN THE WORLD HAS FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AND FORMED AN OPINION, HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH YOU. I HAVE BEEN A POLICE OFFICER FOR TEN YEARS NOW, SERVING THE LAST EIGHT HERE IN STARKE COUNTY. THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ITSELF IS A JOKE. CRIMINALS FAR WORSE THAN THESE BOYS GET OVER ON THE SYSTEM ALL THE TIME BUT THEY DON'T PUT THAT IN THE PAPER OR ON THE NEWS. I HAVE ARRESTED JUVENILES FOR BURGLARIZING HOMES, AND I MEAN CAUGHT THEM AS THEY WERE LEAVING THE HOME THEY BROKE IN TO. WHAT HAPPENS? THEY GET RELEASED TO THE PARENTS. AS FOR ADULTS, LET'S SAY THEY RECIEVE A FOUR YEAR SENTENCE, USUALLY THREE YEARS ARE SUSPENDED LEAVING ONE YEAR TO SERVE. THEY GET 1/2 TIME OFF FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR (WHICH EVERYONE GETS) AND THEY SERVE A FEW MONTHS. EVERY ONE IS MAKING A BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS CASE WHEN IV'E SEEN WORSE PEOPLE GET ARRESTED TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH LITTLE BEING DONE

Posted by: val Location: knox on Oct 4, 2008 at 01:31 AM
We as a community have to support the families of the children. But they also have to understand the old saying holds true" you do the crime you do the time!" We have to teach these kids that you have to think before you act. You will have to live with what you do! We need to make it easier for childern to have a counsler to talk to. In this town if you don't have insurance or money there is not a place for these kids to go. We need to have a place were these kids can go. We do not have much in this town to keep kids out of trouble.

Posted by: MOM TO KNOX SCHOOL KIDS Location: KNOX on Oct 4, 2008 at 12:48 AM
I THINK THE POLICE NEED TO OWN UP TO IT TOO! THEY HAVE SAID THAT THE BOYS HAVE HIT THE BAR ON THE HOLIDAYS THEN WHY WEREN'T THEY STAKING THE BAR OUT???I THINK AN ADULT IS INVOLVED IN THIS TOOOO!! I AGREE THAT IT'S ONLY GETTING AIRED IS BECAUSE OF THEM BEING GOOD AT FOOTBALL.TO ALL WHO PUT DOWN THESE BOYS ,SOMEDAY THIS COULD BE OUR CHILDREN BEING WITH THE WRONG CROWD AT THE WRONG TIME.. I KNOW SOME BOYS WHO GOT OFF OF THE CHARGES AND SHOULDN'T OF BECAUSE THEIR GRANDMA IS SOMEBODY IN GOVERMENT.. IT'S NOT THE PARENTS FAUGHT AT ALL,YOU RAISE YOUR CHILD THE BEST WAY YOU KNOW HOW AND HOPE THAT YOU DID TEACH THEM RIGHT. MCCAN'S FAMILY AND FANS ARE HURTING BY THIS LET'S HOPE THAT HE LEARNS FROM HIS MISTAKE.. FOR THAT FACT ALL THE BOYS..ALL WE CAN DO NOW IS JUST PRAY THAT GOD WILL LET THE TRUTH COME OUT AND JUSICE WILL BE SERVED....LET'S KEEP ALL THESE UNSAVED SOULS OUT HERE IN THIS WORLD IN OUR PRAYERS .......I'M NOT ASSAMED TO LIVE IN THIS COMMINITY......

Posted by: Mediaman Location: Starke on Oct 4, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Being football players should make absolutely no difference in how these kids are viewed. Football players are not Gods and being an athlete is no excuse to suggest being lenient. One crime could be viewed as a "mistake" but two crimes, three crimes or more are not mistakes. If the students were not named, we enter the realm of secrecy. Nazi Germany, Russia and other countries have already proven that secrecy hides a multitude of sins. Our schools alrady do so much in secret that it hard to believe anything schools say or report. By keeping all this secret, it would be easy to slap them on the wrist, holler "Bad, bad" and let them - and any other 'juvenile' - get away with crime. What is so tragic about this case is that so many adults want them to escape punishment and just go on playing football Yes, they are innocent until proven guily as are all suspects. And blaming their crime on easy to enter businesses? Bah.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: looking for truth on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Before you all cry tear for the sandbar aka the porn place the kiddy liter box also a place that is well rumor to be a drug haven. you might want think who want give a crying towel to. I dont condone stealing but last i heard innocent till proven gluity but most of poeple have forgoten that. I say this because poor baby john did not tell 16, I bet that 2 other boys had been held for this crime and poor john was certent then to but he was wrong, he didnt tell you that did he. Now these boys maybe gluity but that is for our law enforcement and judges and juries to decide not dear john or his fans. By the heres some food for thought what small town bar as 10,000 in a safe dont he believe in banks because most businesses even bars make daily deposits esspeically if they bring in that kind of money unless he didnt want to report it! In closing the other businesses involved have shown class in the face of there tragdey unlike dear Jonn.

Posted by: Susie Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Hey Tater, I know for a fact that Nancy Dembowski's grandson's home and property was searched by the Starke County and Knox City Police Departments. Do you really think that if somthing was found a arrest would not have been made. We have a republican prosecutor and judge and Nancy is a democrat. Seriously do you think this would be covered up? Maybe you should know your facts before you speak out...

Posted by: Jenny Location: Plymouth on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:23 PM
It is weird to see a STARKE P.D. OFFICER respond to a blog. What else do you search for online? Scary thought. You are a weirdo! and shouldn't get involved in a criminal case in your position! Just because you have a badge doesn't give you a right to say everything you say. You must of sat the bench in high school.

Posted by: Jenny Location: Plymouth on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:19 PM
The Sandbar owner is a criminal also! The kids are criminals and the owner of the sandbar is a criminal. Check his records and his brother. Ask your teenage kid if they drank there. HE LOVES 19-20 year olds in his bar. He should be locked up with the other kids. As far as the kids in football - it is most discussed because they had an awesome future and now they ruined it for themselves. DUH!

Posted by: shocked on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:54 PM
What these boys did was wrong but what the sandbar is doing is wrong to. they are known for serving to underage kids if the owner of the sandbar wants these boys punished to the fullest extent then he himself needs punished for serving minors. the 10,000 dollars he lost i don't feel sorry for him because he is serving minors which is wrong! he is an adult and should know better!!!!!

Posted by: ??????????? Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:49 PM
You people need to stop acusing just blake and kenny, it wasnt just them, it was other kids to. And news-papers need to stop putting just football it was tennis too! Yeah i know it ruiened there rep. but forgive and forget. they are kids who make mistakes, and you cant say you havent made one in your lifetime. Maybe not as bad as them but seriously its just immature now to say "im embaressed to live in knox" we still have great kids in this town, and you cant say we dont, because unlike some of the immature retards who defend them, we actually have people who love and want to help them change there ways. And one more thing, you HAVE to let them go to school, cause they cant just sit around and do nothing, they need education you cant take that away from them.!

Posted by: kim Location: starke co on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:45 PM
why is it I know several people trying to help people understand what these terrible remarks that are being made to these kids are not helping Anyone have posted comments but they are not getting posted???? Only the negitive remarks seem to be aloud why???

Posted by: Ron Location: Lafayette on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:29 PM
So how many other teenagers drank the stolen booze? These kids will pay for this the rest of their lives. Every class reunion. Knox is so small these kids and their familys are known to all. Time in prison--NO. Juvenile Hall--maybe. House arrest--absolutly. That means no friends over, no cell or phone usage. Computer OK for direct homework--not games. Direct to school and home. 6 months, 12 months??? Restitution to those locations that suffered damages.

Posted by: It must b true!!! Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:11 PM
It is amazing how everyone has become an expert on this topic. Although, the whole truth has not yet been revieled. With the media involved contorting the FACTS,and leaving out key information, there are now so many HATERS that nobody will hear the TRUTH. I don't think that there is anyone that "condones" what these boys have done and they DEFINATELY need to be punished. BUT throwing out partial information and spotlighting these two boys when there are SEVERAL MORE (yes several) involved is wrong....there is NOTHING in the media about the ADULT(s) involved in this "ring" wonder why?......maybe they ARE from Parkview...maybe they already have a record, that wouldnt be media worthy now would it? Nor would it be as interesting. OR maybe the OTHERS are being protected due to "status" There are many stones to be turned in this case. OH! but it was on TV therefore it MUST be true! MR. P.D surely you are not a true officer or you would already know this.

Posted by: Daniel Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 08:51 PM
To “dale” – It’s people like you that are making these CHILDREN STARS!!! It’s completely mind blowing how these CHILDREN were never viewed as STARS for any of the GOOD they have done and it wasn’t until people like yourself chose to give them that title just for what they MIGHT have done! Let’s hope YOU never have CHILDREN b/c it’s VERY clear that you would NOT be there to support them even BEFORE they were found guilty! It’s VERY clear that you would be the first to turn your back on them the FIRST time they were to get in trouble with the law….and face it, with a parent that’s ignorant enough to leave a comment like that, they’d be doomed to have many!

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Posted by: Shelby on Oct 3, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Well said Starke PD Officer. These boys most certainly were leading a double life and pulling the wool over the eyes of many people as to their true character. They let the entire community down. This was not the simple theft of a case of beer out of someones garage. They broke into businesses several times. And must suffer the consequences of their actions. Now it is up to the court to make the final decision and if they are not tried as adults, I certainly hope their years of community service involves working for the establishments they stole from. As far as their scholarships...well a hard lesson to learn but if they are serious about school, there are ways to finance it other than their lost football scholarships. Now the comment about the young man raised by his grandparents - how is that an excuse for his crime? Many people are raised by relatives and they do not all turn out to be criminals. I understand you all like these boys. But the fact is they are thieves.

Posted by: parent Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 07:42 PM
To Mary in Knox.....your comments about Flores are disgusting. I guess you have no family or children or they are all perfect....lucky you !!

Posted by: lets be honest Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 07:36 PM
hey john....i've been in your bar on several occasions and i can tell you first hand that you serve minors there!!!! as a matter of fact one of the boys questioned was in your bar when i was there . i have to ask you , is that a crime ? i believe it is ... so you are also a criminal commiting crimes . if one of those minors leaves your bar and has an accident then you ARE responsible . well maybe then you will want some support or understanding ....maybe you need to sit back and think about and shut your mouth

Posted by: concerned about todays kids Location: VERY close by on Oct 3, 2008 at 07:21 PM
These are KIDS. Yes, they committed serious crimes. I have seen this over and over where kids get waived to adult court and get sentenced to prison for years. At the age these boys are, they would not know how to live like respectable adults when they got out. Then your tax dollars will pay for them to be in and out of prison the rest of their lives.I agree, they should get more than a slap on the hand. They should get the maxium sentence (as juv). The right sentence, as juvs, will teach the lesson these boys need. As far as the parents, my heart goes out to ALL of them, I cannot imagine. You can teach them everything you know,right from wrong, and then its up to them to use it. I am sure most of you posting your comments have climbed out the bedroom window a time or two when you were growing up, I am sure NOT obeying the law, as any kid out at that time would. To the parents, keep in mind that GOD will not give you anything you cannot handle. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU! :-)

Posted by: former knox football player on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:52 PM
I am disappointed in the two boys and embarrassed to have played knox football. Whatever they have coming they deserve.

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:36 PM
I want to 1st say that I am family of Blake McCan. I am in NO way ashamed of it either. I am greatly saddened by those of you who DO NOT know him yet feel the need to bash him and our family on posts such as these. IF you knew him, up to this point, you would not have found 1 single negative thing to say about him! Are you not thinking of the torment the families of all these boys are already going through? Then to read things like these being stated by people who have never even heard of his name until now? Who are you to judge? How would you feel if it was YOUR family? KNOWING that they are truly good-hearted people who got mixed up in some bad things? Should that forever define who they are? The families of all these boys were just as shocked and heartbroken as the rest of the community, but "NO", STARKE PD,we are not blind to anything (except thinking our p.d. was actually for us). We are loving & supporting our family in times of need. I would hope you would do the same for yours.

Posted by: D Location: SB on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:28 PM
TO;STARK P.D.OFFICER,this is just what should be said ,support you all the way my daughter got in trouble this year while a her moms and there were no excuse for it.she did what she did.if her mother just paid a little more attention to what was happening it might not of happen.but i don't know that.the court made their decision and thats what we have to live with.parents should know where their childern are at least most of the time.this is goog just to vent because you are not going to change the out come

Posted by: GK Location: Elkhart on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:13 PM
It's called COMMERCIAL BURGLARY btw, a serious offense. Its not a mistake. Its a plan, and then an action, then repeated. Throw the book at them. I would be careful to the other KNOX player who said he could have been there also. Knowledge of a felony is a crime also if you don't report it. I would be getting a lawyer if I were you.

Posted by: me Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:01 PM
its ok to list their names when they win the game or score..but god forbid we list our heroes names when they commit a felony...

Posted by: M Location: Winamac on Oct 3, 2008 at 05:53 PM
I, too, agree that everybody makes mistakes. However, since the incidences occured over several months, the boys clearly knew what they were doing and should be punished accordingly. Givng them a minimal sentence sends a message to others. Make an example of them. Let the community know that they are safe and crimes like this are going to be taken care of!

Posted by: Jami Location: Plymouth on Oct 3, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Mary, Bob, Dale & all of you other people that think this is a laughing matter SERIOUSLY need help! How can any of you people sit at your computer and make jokes about or smart*** comments about kids you dont even know! Ask yourself "what would I do if this was someone in my family"? I cannot imagine how any of them must feel. AFTER ALL THESE ARE JUST KIDS SO YOU ALL NEED TO THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK!

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Posted by: John Location: The SandBar on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:56 PM
The interview was done days after the 4 had been addressed in the newspaper and radio. I did not bring this story to public attention for the 1st time because WKVI and several newspapers put all names in the news a week ago. I have received many messages of support and a few that are not. I am not the judge and I have no influence on the decision that is going to be made about it. I can not put them in jail or set them free because it is up to our local judicial system to decide those things. If I was in High School and had friends that seemed to be in trouble I may have felt the same way a few of thier peers do who support them. However lets not turn this into a me against them issue because it is not the case. I have had a financial disaster because of this that many of you do not even realize. I have 2 kids and would be heart broken if my kids grow up and do this type of thing to other people. I have a family member in prison myself and know how it feels on both sides of the coin.

Posted by: Charlie Location: South Bend on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:41 PM
Nonsense! The University of Notre Dame doesn't even know who Kenneth Flores is.

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:36 PM
It is not so much the football players that bring "shame" upon our community but the supposed POLICE OFFICER that left blog comment such as this! No one said the families are "blind" to this, they are PROTECTING (you know, what you are SUPPOSED to be doing)their children and family name and trying to find reason to all of this. You have NO IDEA how bad I would LOVE to know which "officer" you are! I am more than willing to publicize my contact information to have a conversation with you!! Isn't it your job to serve and protect...NOT ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE?? How professional is it to bash the people, students and FAMILIES of your own community? The same community you are supposed to be serving? YOU-the people we are supposed to turn to in time of need- are what makes Starke County an embarrassment! BTW: I was dead serious about giving my contact information.

Posted by: Missy Location: Bass Lake on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:36 PM
People should realize that these kids are LUCKY they got caught. People in this part of Indiana love their guns and aren't afraid to use them. Could be at a funeral instead of a hearing.

Posted by: FAITH Location: KNOX on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:34 PM
GOD SURE HAS ALOT OF HELPERS TO BE THE ONES TO JUDGE THESE KIDS. HE DONT HIDE BEHIND A KEYBOARD TO SAY SUCH CRUEL THINGS I HAVE READ ON HERE.

Posted by: Kersh Location: Plymouth on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:31 PM
No, not being able to play football does NOT count as punishment. That's a privilege. What if they didn't play football to begin with, do you consider jail to be a comparable sentence than not playing football? Sure, the McCan kid was gonna talk to St. Francis about playing there....NOT ANY MORE!!! About the other kid, not sure where you heard that Notre Dame was giving him a scholarship, but that couldn't be further from the truth. A few MAC schools I've heard, but ND? Either way, that's out the window now.

Posted by: TO STARKE P.D. OFFICER Location: IND on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:30 PM
SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT HIS MOM BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS??? OH?? DID THEY DO THAT ALSO . WITH A COMMENT LIKE THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR ONE OF STARKE COUNTYS FINEST I HEAR ABOUT.

Posted by: Relative of Accused Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:18 PM
I am very ashamed that one of my family members is involved and am scared for his future. However I feel terrible for the Sandbar owner and Dee Fletcher and plan on going to both businesses and making an apology on behalf of the family. They have done some horrible things here and am sad this has happened to all of us.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:18 PM
Dear Starke P.D. If in fact you area cop in Starke County, then I'm sure you're a criminal too. And if you're married you're probably out cheating on your wife. And, as I said, everyone reacts differently to things that happen in their lives. My father was abused as a child and he grew up to be an EXCELLENT father. Other people who were abused go on to be aweful fathers and abuse their kids. As I said EVERYONE reacts differently!!

Posted by: TEACHER @ KHS Location: KNOX IN on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:18 PM
I AM REALLY SAD THAT THIS COOMUNITY IS SOUNDING LIKE THIS TO OUR YOUNG ONES. WE WANT THEM TO ALL SUCCEED IN LIFE & IF THEY STRAY OFF TRACK I LIKE TO FEEL THERE IS ADULTS OUT THERE TO HELP THEM BACK ON TRACK WITHOUT JUDGEING THEM AS I HEAR THIS COMMUNITY IS DOING TO THESE BOYS. I KNOW THESE BOYS & FEEL WITH THE RIGHT HELP THEY CAN ALL TURN OUT TO BE GOOD CITIZENS BUT THAT CANT HAPPEN IF THEY ARE NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE

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Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:15 PM
Rocky, According to GOD, there is no difference. A sin is a sin. So, let him be the judge!!

Posted by: Steve B. Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Way to go Felons! You made Starke county the spotlight of lowlife activity as we are the most popular headline in the news! Thanks for decreasing my property value even more because of your mistake...... 15 TIMES again and again

Posted by: Mike Location: Cleveland on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:05 PM
There's nothing in the bible about breaking into places? Or about stealing things that don't belong to you? In God's eye maybe all sins are looked at equally, but not in society. Welcome to society.

Posted by: Mike Location: Plymouth on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:59 PM
He may be a good athlete, but his playing days are most likely done. I'm sure he is a good kid, I always have respect for student athletes. When I was a senior at Plymouth, I was arrested for shoplifting at the mall in South Bend. I had to miss half the season, they wouldn't even let me play basketball. Then again, this is Knox.

Posted by: Redskin Fan Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:57 PM
I sure hope they dont take the team in a Indiana State Correctional Vehicle if the crooks are playing tonight. McCann may be a little slower on his routes with that Criminal Bracelet around his Leg! Lol

Posted by: Starke P.D. Officer Location: Knox/Starke on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:51 PM
This has been very entertaining to read all this on my day off. Family & Friends always are blind when it comes down to one of their own involved. As I see it they are Hoodlums who live double lives. 4 or more years behind bars should put them back on track as far as Im concerned. There is tragedy and sob stories in all families and that is no reason to turn to crime. #25 & #65 sure looked depressed about family issues while catching touchdowns and making good plays. Dont bring family B.S. into this as any reason because the Judge will go Nuts if they play the Poor Me sympathy card. The SandBar owners Mom was murdered in Knox at her home on main st in 1996 so should he be out breaking in to businesses and using that excuse as an excuse? The Judge will make a decision and then a jury if needed. No matter what everyone writes it will not affect the outcome and thier fate. Just keep using this to vent or go to a counsler if you need to see one if that makes you better.

Posted by: Myrt on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:49 PM
Sick of it - your statement "suggests" that if the bar was secure, they wouldn't have done it again and again. Even if the bar was left wide open, it gives them NO RIGHT to go in and take what doesn't belong to them. No I don't know the boys, but I do know the difference between right and wrong. I'm glad to see you admit what they did is wrong. I also suggested that maybe they be made to apologize and make things right in another post instead of going to prison. BTW, I do many things during my day - I guess you are just as "pathetic" as I am since you are posting to this blog also. You call me names and then tell me to grow up?? I hope you are right that they are "good" kids and they try to make things right.

Posted by: Rocky Location: Up North on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:48 PM
To everyone makes mistakes: You need to get off your HIGH horse. First off, everyone might make mistakes, but not eveyone has committed a CRIME. There is a different here.

Posted by: cares about kids! on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Dale, Grow up! you're not a comedian! You're not even funny!! And you wouldn't be laughing if this was someone you cared about.

Posted by: Bob Location: SB on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:33 PM
McCan might be "Da Man" to the foolish on here and in knox who are supporting this low life, but what he is going to get in prison will not be very manly.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:27 PM
Jimtown, I seriously think you are a complete moron! Do you honestly think that because someone gets technical fouls and flags, that makes them a criminal? That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. McCann grew up next door to my house. He has always been a good kid and it breaks my heart to think that his entire life could be ruined because of this. Yes, he needs to be punished. But, not as an adult, because he is NOT an adult!! And yes to all of you idiots, it IS a punishment that they don't get to play football anymore. Because now they are going to lose their scholarships. They were being looked at by TOP schools to play football in college. Now, if they are tried as adults, they probably won't go to college at all.

Posted by: Mary Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:25 PM
I heard Flores had a scholorship offer to Notre Dame. Good thing they caught him now before he went there and stole the golden dome and sold it on Ebay. Lock em up and send em some soap on a rope.

Posted by: dale Location: judson on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:23 PM
hey ! its not to late for these so called football stars to do a remake of GRIDIRON GANG!! They will be STARS in prison.. real life role models

Posted by: Everyone makes mistakes Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:20 PM
The Bible states that no sin is greater than the other. So, all of you on your high horse can step right down!! You have ALL made mistakes, and in God's eyes, they are all equal. So, don't go judging them when you have made mistakes too. Would you want your childhood mistakes to ruin your ENITRE life?????

Posted by: teacher Location: michigan on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Good for you Knox Sr. football player. Takes guts to say what you did. Not all 17-18 year olds are as terrible as some people think they are. My compliments to you.

Posted by: OMG on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Dear Football, The first thing I would do, if I were you, is take an English class. I sure hope you're not the one teaching it to your child!

Posted by: Darlene Location: Knox High on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:10 PM
You people sticking up for these 4 are making us look retarded. I want to go to a different school because i am very ashamed to be here! They found the SandBar safe last week out by Kennys house and they already admitted to the thefts. They have ZERO chance of being found innocent at this point. The hearing will determine what type of court will give out a sentence. After monday they will be expelled by the school either way so get over it now and save the tears for innocent people NOT THIEVES

Posted by: You're idiots on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:08 PM
Dennis, This shows how much you know. You're assuming that these kids in fact HAVE parents. Well, Kenny's parents have had nothing to do with him his entire life. And he has been raised by his aging grandparents. Last year, his grandmother committed suicide. He has been going through a lot of emotional trama and so has his grandfather. So, before you go judging people, why don't you consider that maybe their lives haven't been as perfect as yours!

Posted by: Shelby on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:07 PM
Like it or not, these boys repeatedly committed acts of breaking and entering and theft. Just because they do not have a prior record does not mean anything. It is apparant they knew what they were doing and liked it. So Starke County residents - do not harbor these criminals. Look at what they did to your community.

Posted by: Missy Location: Bass Lake on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:06 PM
These kids are lucky they got caught and not SHOT! How would everyone feel if you were going to a funeral instead of a criminal hearing!! These guys got lucky if you ask me. By the way Lewandowski, that everyone seems to be upset with, is the VICTIM, not the criminal. He is a great person and it is NOT FAIR that he is catching so much heat. I hope they interview the owners of the other places that got robbed. He is not the only one. Everyone seems to be singling him out, which is retarded. Hope you guys get robbed and then everyone starts bad mouthing you. These guys knew exactly what they were doing, and they would have kept doing it, if they were not caught.

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:01 PM
These are good kids that got sidetracked. It's good they got caught. Not only for the victims but for themselves. They're still kids. It's not too late to turn them back around to the caring boys they're known as. I'm in no way saying they should get away with this. Punishment is necessary- as juveniles; 1st time offenders. Even adults do wrong on a daily basis. Those who break laws or make poor decisions most likely aren't thinking of the consequences. If everyone thought about that when making these choices there'd be A LOT less crime in the world. For many it may take getting caught to fully realize the consequences & hurt we may cause as a result of our actions. Who are we to judge the anguish/remorse the boys now feel? Maybe it took SEEING the hurt & disappointment in their family & communities eyes to make it real to them. If they can take this and learn from it, GREAT! We have to first allow them to. After all, it is the FIRST time they have been in trouble.

Posted by: Mike Location: Cleveland on Oct 3, 2008 at 03:00 PM
Well thanks "you all have no clue" for clearing up that they did do it. However, just because they "stopped doing the crime" doesn't mean they shouldn't get into trouble. If Knox has any integrity, these kids shouldn't be playing football.

Posted by: James M. Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:58 PM
As a former Redskin I am embarraseed because of the scar these guys have left on the team, the school, and the community. Why are these guys in school? Make sure someone does not forget to lock up the school tonight or all the TVs will be gone in the morning!!!!

Posted by: melissa Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:55 PM
BOB! First of all, Knox is not a COUNRTY, it's a city, idiot! And secondly, if you hate it so bad, MOVE OUT!! Trust me, we won't miss you.

Posted by: me! Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:54 PM
Judson, AMEN to your post!! These people are judging these kids based on what the media says and we all KNOW that the media messes things up. And for the LOSER from Jimtown, it seems you are a little jealous that you, or your child, can't compare to Blake. He has NEVER been a bad kid, and NEVER gotten into any trouble. Always done awesome in sports. And you know what? He hasn't had a perfect life. It's so easy for all of you to judge when you have no idea what these kids may have gone through growing up. And I know some of you will say "Well, I had problems growing up too..." well, we all react differently to things that happen in our lives. Some people can get past things that others can't. So, stop judging. If this were your kid, you'd have an excuse for them. And as far as the owner of the Sand Bar, it's easy for him to point the finger. Don't tell me that he's never served alcohol to minors or anything else illegal!

Posted by: Drew Location: Starke County on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:50 PM
78% in favor of felony 22% want them to get a spanking Just letting you know the results so far.

Posted by: You all have no clue Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:45 PM
It's so easy for all of you to judge when you don't have a clue what you're talking about. If you were in the court room (as I was) you would know that they started in February and stopped in June. Not 8 months. Therefore they have had PLENTY of time to regret it!! They didn't stop just because they got caught.

Posted by: Steve on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:43 PM
No Amanda everyone does not make the mistake of breaking into others businesses and houses. They deserve to be punished for their 15 counts of burglary.

Posted by: Mike Location: Cleveland on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:42 PM
When you go in to the same business to rob it more than once, than you're a repeat offender and need serious help. Along with that, these kids were selling items and trying to profit, who knows what other activity they "could" be involved in.

Posted by: melissa Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:42 PM
Perplexed! I totally agree with you. There is NO WAY for the news people to tell that those are Blake and Kenny on the video. I'm not saying that it's not them, I'm just saying that they don't know. And I don't understand either why they are not protecting the kids' names.

Posted by: melissa Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Stan the man, They beat you because your team totally stinks! They always have as long as I can remember. The Knox Cheerleaders could have beat you!

Posted by: Knox Football Fan Location: Ktown on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:31 PM
I can't beleive how stupid some of you are acting. Yes, they are your family & yes I'm sure you love them to death, but come on! If they wouldn't have been busted they would still be robbing these businesses. As for all of you driving your cars around with "MCcan's still da man" Make me vomit! You are the reason Starke County has a bad name. Everyone in Knox knows these boys are guilty. I can honestly say I feel sorry for Dominic & Ethan. They are good kids & have good families. Sorry I can't say that for Blake & Kenny.

Posted by: a parent Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:25 PM
Didn't they admit to doing this???? I think they all confessed to what they did. The only ? I think that is left is how they are going to be punished. So all this stuff about innocent until proven guilty is crap....

Posted by: Kevin Location: North Judson on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:23 PM
I go to the Sandbar and the owner is a good guy who did secure his place well. I am an employee at the company that had to fix steel doors that took a long time to get into. I feel bad for him because he eventually had to weld those back doors closed and then they broke in the front. What more can you do? My neighbor Roger sat in there overnight several times and they are lucky they did not run into him. There would have been funerals. If they are Juvys then the parents should be 100% accountable.

Posted by: Sick of it! Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:19 PM
I'm not putting total blame on the bar... did i say that?? no i don't think i did.. i said that since it was easy for the boys to get into they thought the could keep doing it...they would have never even got the idea to go in again and again if these things were properly secured!! i'm not trying to blame the business owners here... these boys did something wrong.. not every boy is charged with 15 counts...so it's ridiculous to announce in the news that they are being charged with 15 counts!!! and All of you people that have no clue who these boys are and are on here just because you have nothing better to do with your time but sit and talk about the crimes that these four boys supposedly committed need to get lives... really are you that pathetic that this is the only thing you can do with your day??? i actually know these boys...how many on here from niles or south bend or anywhere other than starke county can say that? Grow up and let these boys be..the judge and God decide not you

Posted by: Ben Location: South Bend on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:16 PM
All of you people who are irate at WNDU for publishing these kids names, shame on YOU! Yes, that's right! These names need to be published! Let these teenagers face the humiliation they deserve! This is why our crime rate is so high. Because we baby our youth! We teach them its okay to do this crap, but simply giving them community service. The fact that these teenagers did this over a period of MONTHS means to me it was NOT a mistake like you all are referring to. It was planned out and pre meditated! This is a class C felony. If it was a misdemeanor I would not agree with publishing their names. But several felonies over several months. Are you kidding me!? They are on video, they are not innocent! Don't play the "what if they're innocent" card! They were CAUGHT ON CAMERA! They deserve the humiliation they get and they deserve to be punished to the extent of the law

Posted by: Earl Location: Starke County on Oct 3, 2008 at 02:02 PM
Any friend,Girlfriend,or relative can stand up for them and we all understand why you are rooting for them but the rest of us see the big picture and do not want more crime in our community and that is what will happen if these dudes go with a wrist slap and not face actual felony charges like they should! If these are the the supposed good hearted people you claim them to be I sure fear how the bad people in Knox will turn out. Who cares if they can catch a football or block someone. They need to learn how to make a liscense plate and they will now look more like referees with the stripes they will have to wear! Book Em!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Knox Sr. Football Player Location: Knox High School on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:49 PM
I could have been there with those guys and I chose not to because I knew it was wrong! I am just glad that they did not get shot or kill one of those business people while in those establishments. I would have had to live with that knowing what was going on. I wish I had the guts to turn them in after the first crime but I did not because of fear from fellow classmates and friends. GOD BLESS the person who did have the guts to stop them because it was way out of hand. I think the team is divided in opinion but deep down knows that we are better off not having them on the roster. They had no regret until caught and I was at some of those parties when they showed up with the stolen liquor and feel ashamed for drinking some of it with them.

Posted by: Brandy Location: North Judson on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:41 PM
I guess there is a reason why I was taught "never believe everything you hear & half of what you see". Do you know where the "15" came from? There WERE NOT 15 burglaries! They took the charges of 4 boys-1 having 7 by himself-then added them together. There could've been 10 kids involved in 1 crime and the news can state "10 burglary counts" making it APPEAR to be 10 SEPERATE incidences.Makes for a great story! Good job WNDU in making these BOYS seem to be such horrible criminals! It's not a matter of if it's "legal" to publicize names of minors. It's a matter of ethics; to humiliate these boys, their families and community BEFORE it is even PROVEN to be them! There's SO much worse going on all around and you've chosen to come to this small community and potentially DESTROY these kids: whom have NOT been POSITIVELY identified as those in this video! Don't we have a judicial & juvenile system for a reason? There's a reason why there's a very specific age that separates a child from adult.

Posted by: Former Knox Res. on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:41 PM
To all the people on here defending these kids, do you not realize the severity of what they did? Stop and think how you would feel if you were one of the victims of their burglaries? Would you still feel the same? These kids did wrong and should be punished accordingly. If they are not they will never learn their lesson. Yes innocent until proven guilty, but with the evidence agaisnt them, I dont think it looks good for them. I really hope Kim Hall doesn't take it lightly.

Posted by: A Parent of young kids Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:38 PM
These kids have committed felonies,if they didn't play football no one would care. People only care because Knox is finally haveing a good season. But didn't they win without these kids!!! They should be punished,If you committe a crime you should do your time! All the support is why kids these days are horrible, I'm terrified for when my two yound children go to school. People work hard for what they have, obviously these kids know nothing of hard work, and trying to provide food for a family, because they took food right out of these families mouths.

Posted by: ??????????????????? Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:33 PM
I think it is quite pitiful that the relatives are putting "McCan's still DaMan" on your vehicles he's not dead he is a criminal!!!!!! Get with it.. I am so embarassed to live in Knox..

Posted by: Sarah (continued) Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:18 PM
I wish some of the other victims would voice their opinions on here, so you can know how all of them have suffered. The accused are still going to school everyday, and playing on their MYSPACE at night. Doesn't sound to me that they have it that bad... What about the fees paid for home detention.I know some counties charge $80/week.Multiply that by 4 detainees, thats $320. Why don't we put that towards restitution for the real victims instead of the county making money off of their criminals. I'm sure the Starke County prosecutor's accused is still sitting in jail at 18 yrs old... he was caught in 1 week! Funny how things work when your a county employee. The summer crime spree was only cracked because of a tip over the phone...everyone who knew just kept quiet, until now!!! I just hope the criminals are punished and restitution is made!

Posted by: unbelievable on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:14 PM
To the attorney in Knox. We are glad that none of those kids have you as an attorney as well. Obviously you are not a class act yourself. It nice that you have seen all these tapes yet the real attorneys haven't. Oh, in case you've never attended a Knox Redskin sporting event, you cany buy that clothing anywhere....even Walmart. I wish you had the guts to leave your name here because I assure you that few people would be breaking down your door for your services.

Posted by: Sarah Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:09 PM
From what I am reading, people feel the accused should be tried as juveniles. Do you think that when they turned 18 they would stop breaking into to places? NO! They were just busy with football and couldn't be out at 3 AM anymore without their performance suffering!!! As for the video, there is much more footage that shows their faces, after all, they were in the building 5 times. The sad thing is that everyone is looking down on the victims for wanting justice, as opposed to the ones who did the theft. These kids have already sat in front of the judge and cried while admitting to these crimes. Maybe you high schooler bleeding hearts should realize that your friends have committed some serious crimes here. Also sad is the fact that they robbed businesses in Culver, and Monterey, both located in other counties, whose charges have not yet been brought against the criminals.Imagine being woken up at 5 in the morning to find out your home was broken into...continued

Posted by: Kersh Location: Plymouth on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:07 PM
Let's stop referring to them as "football stars". They're from Knox, there are no football stars there.

Posted by: ed Location: jimtown on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:58 PM
when it comes to McCan! he has been falgged in most football games this year! and had several techs in baskeball last year and also had problems in baseball!! He has a atitude and thinks that he is special!! and this theft thing is no different!!

Posted by: Bob Location: SB on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Good job WNDU and also good job to the Starke County Leader for putting this on the front page so everyone knows who these thieves are. What part of "the video shows the pair stealing" do you people coming to the defense of these criminals not understand? I hope the prosecutor waives this to adult court and rids the area of these low lifes for many years.

Posted by: james Location: winamac on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:50 PM
I really think that everyone is missing the point....this has been going on for several months and for people to say..."they didn't realize what they were doing"....that's BS and whether you are 10 or 18 years of age u know it is not right to STEAL!!!! All parents try and raise their children by telling them that theft is WRONG!!!!!These children went to great lengths and spent at one time 2 hours to burglarize a business...and several others....I agree innocent until proven guilty...but come on if you do the crime ...serve the time!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: starek county resident on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Please let these children recieve justice from the courts and not a bunch of uninformed people who want to keep the pot boling. Trust the people elected by the community to protect the coummity to do there job and leave the subject rest until they have decied how to handle the issue. remember there is no past history for this children on record, and they are Children under the law until they are 18. I would not want to be under the mircope they have been placed under.

Posted by: blaah on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM
mike, i think if you have children which you just may. if they did something like this i think you would back them up 100% no matter how bad the punishment may be. if your kids were on the side of the road picking up trash would you like us to honk at them and ridicule them?! i think not

Posted by: Mary Location: Niles on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:32 PM
If kids are raised properly and have the proper outside as well as inside influence - the temptations to burglarize/steal/kill/mame, etc., may not be as great to accept and follow. This thing about kids will be kids is NUTS!!! Kids are people, as are adults. YEs, we all make mistakes, but mistakes such as they committed?? Everyone knows right form wrong, it's the choices that we make when deciding which way to go. There is something in the Holy Bible about children rising up against their parents.....those parents can be other adults, people of positive influence........take heed people!

Posted by: Local Attorney Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:27 PM
After looking at the recorded video footage that is about 4.5 hours long all together>>>GUILTY! The news broadcast about 10 seconds worth. Faces are shown and one of the bandits wore Knox football shorts while grabbing booze by the case. I am embarrassed that they live in this town and am glad I do not have to represent them because I could not win with the evidence against them plus they already told Kim Hall (the judge) that they did break into those places.

Posted by: BTH Location: SBN on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Jocks like these (unpunishable,they wouldn't do that sort of thing,"good"kids)are the seeds that grew us a Columbine

Posted by: amanda on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:19 PM
dont try telling me what to think and what to say. do you know what exactly happened, i think not. keep your comments to yourself. everything should be in private anyway and not be out like they are. they are INNOCENT until proven GUILTY!

Posted by: Brooke24 Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I started reading this page & couldn't even finish, I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW IGNORANT SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE! HELLO. The names that are mentioned are only a FEW of the SEVERAL that are involved! YES alot of places have been robbed, BUT THESE KIDS are not involved in all of them, for that matter it hasnt even been PROVEN that they were involved in any of them! GET YOUR FACTS TOGETHER BEFORE YOU SPEAK! THE MEDIA HAS FAILED THESE KIDS, & HAVE FAILED US by not allowing us to have ALL the FACTS. They are only giving us what is ASSUMED to be true! I say MR LEWANDOWSKI wouldnt know the truth IF IT SLAPPED HIM ON THE FACE! LIES, LIES, LIES! Everyone needs to mind their own business or quit being so quick to judge & NOT make assumptions.. LETS REMEMBER, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY! For the record "NOT CONFUSED".. NO I AM NOT AN "OBAMA VOTER", BUT Apparently you are about as IGNORANT as he is!!

Posted by: Mother of 4 boys on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:13 PM
I am so tired of hering they are good kids they shouldn't be punished like adults, they made adult actions when stealing from these places! They stold over $10,000 in cash and beer as well. Who gives a crap if there football players. My son plays football for the high school as well and I'm sorry if he did something this idiotic he better get locked up and face his time so he never does it again. You parents are sticking up for there behavior, mad at the owner of the sandbar! Are you kidding me they owe him big time. Because it was easy for them to get into the bar that does not mean that gives them the right to break into the bar! Where were the parents when there GOOD kids was running around breaking into these places and hurting the owners of the places. Put yourself in there shoes, what kids broke into to your place and stole items. You would want that child locked up! Same here they need to face there time and learn.

Posted by: Just Me Location: Nappanee on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:13 PM
I cannot believe all of the IDIOTS defending these kids! That's why things have gotten so bad. This is not their first "so-called" mistake, you can count on that. Kids left to play in the streets in the wee hours of the morning, tend to get bored and do things they wouldn't do in front of law-abiding adults. Yes, the parents should have to pay also. If they would have kept these hoodlums at home at night, they wouldn't have been able to do this. How good of a player or student can they be when they're out all night? A mistake? My chldren knew what stealing was and that it was wrong before they atarted kindergarten! Something in this story stinks!

Posted by: Anon on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Everyone is saying that the kids have not been found guilty yet...Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe they confessed to it? to me that would be guilty also.. and as for the bar owner.. its ok that money that he lost was probably money he got from the drugs being sold in there

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:09 PM
WOW! I cannot believe what I am reading!! The people on here defending these kids, (caught on camera red-handed) You are just teaching them that stealing and burglary are ok!! It's people like you that have problem kids like this!

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Good Kids huh??

Posted by: Jim Location: Niles on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM
It absolutely amazes me how many people defend these kids. The bottom line is, they took stuff that did not belong to them. It would take a special kind of idiot to think that something that someone else worked hard for was somehow theirs. Plus, if they didn't think there was anything wrong with it, or they didn't know the severity of what they were doing, then why didn't they go in during business hours and take the stuff they somehow thought was theirs to take.

Posted by: Kim Location: Knox Ind on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Leave out the being the STAR FOOTBALL PLAYERS & remember these are kids that may have done something DUMB a time or two. They are not the cause of every crime in starke county people.They have not all been in on everyone of these bar crimes either!!!Sounds like so many perfect people out there have has never made a mistake in life! Are you really one to be the judge!!!

Posted by: Unreal Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Everyone is throwing McCan's name around like he is the one who has done everything....from what I have heard aroung town is that Mr. Flores was the mastermind behind these robberies.burlaries whatever you want to call them. It seems like it was peer pressure for all the other boys. I realize this is wrong and I am sure they knew also teenagers never think of consquences. I was a teenager before and I'm sure all of you were to. I feel that they should be tried as children since that is what they are.... Look through all of the cases in the United States teenagers killing teenagers they were all tried as juveniles.. My heart goes out to the McCan Family as I sat for the football games and watched him play. He truely is a good kid..Just involved in Peer Presssure

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:41 AM
I can't believe that anyone would defend this kind of behavior. These kids are old enough to know right from wrong , to know the severity of the crime, and to know the consequences if they were to get caught. A lot of you say "they are good boys", give me a break, if they were good boys they wouldn't have commited a crime of that extent. They didn't just rob 1 place, they robbed several. And people are on here bashing the owner of the Sandbar. He has every right to be pissed. You would feel the same if this happened to you. They didn't do something little that they should be given a slap on the wrist. They commited a serious crime and should be punished and taught a lesson for their actions. Maybe that will make them think in the future.

Posted by: Myrt on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Sick of It Knox states- "If it wasn't so easy for them to get into places (mainly sandbar) they never would have done it." So, I guess it must be the bar owner's fault that he made it easy for them to break-in and steal from him, so it is the bar owners fault. The article states it was the theft and resale of the TV which broke the case - they were caught. They may have come from "good" families, but "good" kids DO NOT STEAL!!!!! They need to face the consequenses of their actions, NOT be taught that this was just a bad mistake. Fifteen times isn't a mistake, they were beginning to make it a career. Their "mistake" was getting caught. Now they can learn from their "mistake".!

Posted by: Concerned Adult Location: Starke Co on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Since this is really being brought up as if they have murdered,raped, ARMED robbery ect & not that I feel its right by any means but I think we have alot of jealous kids out there throwing around such cruel remarks about throwing the book at these boys just because they find a good chance to get back at them since us as the adults have given them the opportunity to do so & they (ones with all these crewl remarks)are not mature enough to know what they could cause for these other kids.This should not be football ridicule. This is very serious & kids lives are at stake.KIDS!

Posted by: GK Location: Elkhart on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:19 AM
To anyone defending these career criminals as good kids, you must be part of the reason. Meth lab at home or what? They are not GOOD KIDS. They are Felons! I hope they like prison, cuz thats where they are headed. If you care so much be sure to send them plenty of Prep H.

Posted by: times have changed Location: Indiana on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:15 AM
When a juvenile is charged with an adult crime, their right to anonymity goes out the window... Meaning, it is legal to publish juvenile names in instances such as this.

Posted by: Kids r kids on Oct 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Lets remember we call kids.KIDS! Not Adults or to be considered adults until 18 years of age. Thats why we have a drinking age not to serve beer ect until adults & you cant try & turn the law just because it would benefit someones ego instead of their pocket as they have. I dont think any of these KIDS will ever forget if they had any part in 1,3 or more of these breakins of bars or furniture place after some of these bad commits being said about them all!! Lets hope they learned & go on with the rest of there lives & make something good of themselves & be proud of them with football since seems like thats why they are getting all this attention because they are good at something so lets incourage that for them not make it worse. Everyone needs another chance sometime in life! I dont feel they should be ruined before they even reach being adult.

Posted by: Debra Location: South bend on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:57 AM
I know that if these "Kids" were from the Westside of South Bend, People would be throwing around names like "thugs", "project hoodrats" and nobody and I mean nobody would give a damn about what this might do to their future!

Posted by: Bob Location: SB on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:50 AM
To sorry, these kids are worthless trash, they are criminals and thieves and they have done it over and over. They are lucky they did not get caught under different circumstances, they might have been shot and killed and that would have been perfectly legal under Indiana's castle law. These worthless scumbags should be tried as adults and sent to prison.

Posted by: Mike Location: Cleveland on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Did you seriously say "his future is doomed because of you people"? You must be his mother. Sure, he had no part in this whatsoever.

Posted by: stella Location: close to home on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Those kids names were released before charges were even filed. Where is the justice is that? Not all of the kids were accused in all the incidents so saying that doing it repeatedly is not a mistake is wrongly accusing.

Posted by: Mike Location: Cleveland on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:43 AM
How did Lewandowski do anything wrong? Quit making excuses for these kids. They are habitual thieves that have been stealing and profiting from it for months. Parents didn't notice all the money that these kids suddenly had? That's why Knox has the reputation it does.

Posted by: A Mother Location: Knox Ind. on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Did each one of these KIDS! RAPE OR MURDER SOMEONE. I can NOT believe what I have been reading about 4 high school students ! But because a couple are good high school players they are getting all this attention!!!!!!They are a few kids that may have done something really stupid a couple times & got caught!

Posted by: Concerned Parent Location: Starke County on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Are these KIDS NFL players? I cant believe the remarks/publicity they are getting.The Rape cases,Guns,Drugs ect. Dont get the kind of media attention these kids doing something stupid.(If they did do the crimes accused.) Some of you are acting like each one of these kids have each done this 15-18 times.(Depending on which artical you read)Did anyone read the artical that more arrests could be made by the Starke Co Police? Not all the crimes in Starke Co. have been done by just these 4 kids.I believe 3 of the boys is only being accused of 3 crimes.Yes!1 is bad but can all of us say we have never made even 3 mistakes at only 15-17 years of age that should cause the rest of our lives to be ruined.I say from the media & some cruel people saying what they are, that these kids will not ever forget what they have done if they did any of it! Lets dont make any wrongs that may have been done be worse.This bar owner I assume does think they should be accused as adults since he serves to 17 olds.

Posted by: Scott Location: Bremen on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:10 AM
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! That is what I hear when I read about everyone defending these students. There is a reason that they were arrested whether it was for 1 burglary or all 15 of the burglaries. That is irrelevant and they have obviously committed a crime (or many crimes) and they need to do their time. So lets here it from all of the friends of these burglars.....keep trying to convince everyone that they are not guilty and they are just being kids. They will look really cool with their orange vests on picking up trash along US 35:) Everyone honk at them.

Posted by: disgusted Location: ktown on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:03 AM
People who live in glass houses should keep their rocks in their pockets.

Posted by: Dazed and Confused! Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:52 AM
Well if they lived in Parkview in Knox, they would have the electric chair by now. You have to have the right last name to be able to steal and only get a spanking, but others would be locked up in the Starke CO. jail. With the big boys, NOT at home eating a nice dinner with the family, and being because they missed the poor little game. BOO HOO! A mistake happens once not over and over, they are only sad because they got caught, otherwise it would still be going on, and those boys would still be laughing about it. They were making a mockery out of the police dept. over an 8 month peroid.

Posted by: b Location: bass lake on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:49 AM
at least 15 nighttime burglaries. why are their "children" out at all hours of the night? hello! parents! did ya think they were having pajama parties?!

Posted by: FOOTBALL Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:42 AM
Well i have been reading some of these comments, and i would like 2 know why them not getting football was a punishment? The reason their names were released is because they are being chared with a Felony. So when my middle school son learns that stealing 12,000 dollars and only missing a game,and home detention is the punishment,what kind of example is that for all the young children in this community? To make sure you steal and commit crimes before your 18. And where did all the alchol go? Did they drink it? or sell it? Both of those should be additional crimes, so trust me football should be the least of everybody's worries, and if this crime is acceptable then i'm signing my son up for football today.Thank You!

Posted by: Sick of it! Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:32 AM
i'm close with the families and know the boys really well. they are not bad kids! it was very shocking that they would even attempt such a crime, however they are just kids and didn't realize the severity of their crimes. If it wasn't so easy for them to get in to the places (mainly sandbar) they never would have done it. it is disturbing how most of you people can sit there and comment about these boys and say what bad kids they are when in all actuality you have NO idea who these boys are, where they come from, and what they are feeling at this time. do you actually think that a news report given to a news station from a man who is angry at these boys is going to give you the facts?? you have got to be kidding me. he wants to make these kids sound worse than they really are. i will agree that they need to be punished but not as adults for they are merely kids and made a mistake!!

Posted by: Fed Up With This on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:19 AM
these boys made mistakes but they are kids, NOT adults and shouldn't be punished as adults!!!!!!!

Posted by: Fed Up With This! Location: North Judson on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:16 AM
if the boys who committed these crimes were just ordinary boys who didn't do anything with their lives this would not be all over the media but since they are football players it is spinning out of control. these boys are already going through enough and don't need to be publicly reminded of their crimes everyday. Yes what they did was bad and they should be punished but NOT as adults. they are 16 and 17 years old and have never been in trouble before and get decent grades. their lives are just beginning. two of them are amazing football players and the other two, the youngest ones, are good kids with really good grades. they've made a mistake. we all do they just got caught. yes they did it more than once, but if it wasn't so easy for them to get in, in the first place they would have never done it. maybe if mr lewandowski actually knew how to secure his business they would have never been able to start this.

Posted by: Dennis Location: New Carlisle on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:11 AM
After reading the comments below, I find it very interesting that NO ONE has mentioned the parents of these teenagers. Don't they inforce a curfew to their kids. What parent in their right mind would allow a teenager out at 3 in the morning? As a matter of fact what parent wouldn't know where your teenager is at that time of day? I get the feeling the parents of these teenagers just don't care! I believe the teenagers should be punished if found guilty, but I also think the parents should have to answer to the judge and the public as well.

Posted by: Rocky Location: Up Here on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:08 AM
Brooke @11:38, you are a loser, just like these punks. Your statement is nothing but a bunch of B.S. All you people standing up for these punk are crazy! They have been doing these crimes for 8-9 months!!

Posted by: parent of a knox junior Location: knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:06 AM
i think first of all we need to remember why it is we have a juvenile system , so that we are not paying for mistakes we made as kids all of our adult lives, these boys (but ALL involved not just the 4 they have decided to publise) deserve to be punished but not their whole futures taken away from them , as a parent of of a freind of them i know them all personally , they are good hearted kids that would do anything to help anyone out, they made some bad choices ... i for one am glad that nooone is punishing me for all the bad choices i made as a teenager to the families we still love you all and the boys

Posted by: an observer on Oct 3, 2008 at 09:01 AM
To Mr. Lewondowski.........ervyone knows that insurance DOES NOT cover currency!! Why have that much cash laying around anyways?

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 3, 2008 at 08:35 AM
All you people posting defending them are idiots. Of course this would happen in Knox. How can you expext anything less from that area? They have nothing better to do.

Posted by: Alan Location: Elkhart on Oct 3, 2008 at 08:23 AM
They are criminals plain and simple. Thieves stealing from others. If it was my son on the video I would allow the court to punish him as they would see fit. The lesson would need to be learned as soon as possible. I also would not spend thousands of dollars on an attorney either. These parents will be looking at restitution as it is. Lucky the boys do not live in the middle east. They wouldn't have any hands left to steal with anymore.

Posted by: Anon Location: Here on Oct 3, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Whatever. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the video is longer than the clip they show here, or that the witnesses recognize their clothing orsomething else on the video? Also, when I was 10 I knew that you can't break in and take something that is not mine! This is NOT a mistake, this is robbery. And the fact that they did it again and again and again... cry to someone else. These "kids" deserve everything they get. You must be a relative of one of these punks, perplexed. I would hate to think you are just that ignorant.

Posted by: Myrt on Oct 3, 2008 at 07:41 AM
To those defending these "kids". The two 17 year olds are considered adults thus their names were published. The other names weren't published because they are under 17. Also when I was a young child, I knew stealing was wrong and I'm sure these "kids" were taught that too. If they want to avoid criminal charges, they should have to repay the people they stole from, look them in the eye and apologise. To Amanda: I did make stupid mistakes when I was younger, but I also had to do what was right to the people I wronged. It was hard, but it make me a better person. These "kids" need to take responsibility for themselves and pay the piper. It would be a shame to go to prison over this, but if you play; you pay. Maybe a plea deal could be worked out will satisfy everyone who was wronged and keep them out of prison. Not playing football and being grounded at home should be the least of their worries right now.

Posted by: Army Mom on Oct 3, 2008 at 07:35 AM
Send them to boot camp!! At least they'll have a chance to change themselves. They will learn alot about self-sacrifice and how selfishly greedy they have been. If not they'll end up behind bars and what good would that be?

Posted by: Jim Location: Plymouth formerly Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:32 AM
This is going to happen more and more. These small towns are feeling the pinch of this economic downfall, the parents don't have the money they used to just hand over. The kids will start stealing. The adults will start stealing. Ask any expert. Get your kids to church now.

Posted by: Chuck Location: mish on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:30 AM
OK Republican'ts. Your mission, if you choose to accept it; Figure out a way to blame this on Luecke.

Posted by: Who needs punished? Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:00 AM
In the first place I doubt as to what this will make the cut on this website because WNDU has the OPTION to not allow it. WNDU NEEDS to be punished for allowing this to be published!!!!!! Why do they put an age limit of "18" on cases to adult court if they aren't going to use the age of "18"? As far as the remark by Junior...does 18 mean 17? DUH!! Mannie...If it stays in juvenile court then it's NOT a felony...know the law...IF they even did it then they did the act at 17...not 18. Ben,read your comment...IF they were adults they would be charged for a felony and there wouldn't be any privacy protection.DUH..Your next sentence you say 16-17. What do you NOT understand about "18"? Tator...how do you know that ALL of these kids are involved in all 15? Lock "em" up? What about the ones that may have been involved in 1? But YOU and MOST have them convicted already from STUPID media coverage that doesnt know ALL the facts and has these kids convicted. Shame on all of you and mostly WNDU!!!

Posted by: bystander Location: Judson on Oct 3, 2008 at 05:39 AM
So many of you people are so absolutely clueless it's sad!! Majority say if it's just once thats different and you could handle it as a mistake. I KNOW that the McCan boy is accused of 3 charges and that is 100% INCORRECT!! BUT...he is already considered GUILTY because you stupid media (and media wanna be's)have him convicted and his future is doomed B/C you IDIOTS don't have a CLUE what you are talking about!! Why don't you keep your remarks (and STUPIDITY) to yourself until you KNOW the facts!! If you knew this kid personally you would KNOW that he is not ONLY a very good athlete but a very good young "child" that is being ACCUSED of something that he DIDN'T do!! As far ar the IDIOT "Jimtown".He has NEVER been in trouble in any other sport and that just shows how STUPID YOU ARE because you BELIEVE stuff you HEAR and don't KNOW!! Grow up son.Facts are Facts and you need to learn what that means before shooting off your mouth! When the TRUTH comes out all of U need to apologize on here

Posted by: youpeople on Oct 3, 2008 at 05:20 AM
You people that want to stick up for these low lifes have obviously never been violated by a crime. It is not easy to own your own business, especially this day and age, and for someone to break in five times and steal your earnings is unjustifiable. Would you stick up for them if they broke into your home and stole your stuff?? I dare to think not. Trust me had they not gotten caught here it was just a matter of time before it would be your home. These boys do need to be tried as adults as the crimes they committed were adult like. You cannot tell me that one year, making the 17 yr old 18, would have made them wise up and stop the robberies. Give me a break.

Posted by: Tom Location: Laporte on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:37 AM
I have to say to all of you that feel these "KIDS" should get a second chance and that they made a mistake. I guess I did not read the same article because I thought it said that there were 4 different buisinesses that were burglurized? That does not sound like "A" mistake to me. These guys new exactly what they were doing. I feel that if these guys were not caught they would have continued to burglurize other places and not just in Bass Lake and Knox. It would have gone alot further and these guys would have graduated to bigger and better things. I feel the book should be thrown at these guys. Charge them as adults and make sure they get time in Jail, Not just Home Detention. Make an example of the guys and send a message to the rest of the kids in Northern Indiana that if you play with fire, You "WILL" get burnt. It's time we all quit feeling that kids will be kids. If they are not set straight at a young age, They will never be straight. Trouble will follow!!!

Posted by: Supporting the BOYS! Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:42 AM
They didn't play in the homecoming game against Culver, we still kicked your guys butts! Get your story straight before you go off running your mouth about something you don't know!

Posted by: Anna Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:28 AM
Their names were released because it's considered to be a felony. I know these boys and they are good boys and they may be sorry for what they did.. but 15 break ins come on there gets to be a point where you know that they knew what they were doing. So i believe they should be punished and they should repay everything that was taken.. but i don't believe they should go to prison for 8 years..

Posted by: Junior on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:03 AM
At least the 2 that are 17 should go to prison! They are almost 18 and have done more crime than most people in prison now!

Posted by: John Location: Knox on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:58 AM
If they did not get turned in they would never have stopped robbing everyone! A mistake would have been 1 robbery but 5 times at 1 place is a semi pro criminal on a way to being a full pro! Many 17 year olds are in the military and would be court marshalled by the govt. for 1 attempted robbery. I feel bad for the families but if they are juvenilles why are they out breaking into businesses between 3am-5am many many times. These are rough economic times and it is difficult to run a business but when you add Grand Theft it is near impossible to stay open. I thought athletes are role models and if this is the role they choose they are leaving a Poor example for the rest! This is the view and opinion of the majority of citizens I have spoke with and they want to see justice served as well.

Posted by: firedup on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:03 AM
they ARE kids they are NOT adults! do not bad mouth the kids and DO NOT bad mouth the sport teams. everything like this SHOULD be private and if you know nothing about it keep your comments to yourself and dont comment on things that you "assume"

Posted by: Manny Location: LaPorte on Oct 3, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Dear Perplexed, I think your problem is that you don't know that the law requires juvenile hearings to be open to the public if the juvenile acts are felonies. This isn't HIPPA.

Posted by: Sara Location: Knox on Oct 2, 2008 at 11:56 PM
How about asking the owner of the Sandbar what he has done to other businesses? He has done crimnal things. Like, letting teenagers drink in his bar, painting signs of other bars. Hmmmm. She he be charged?

Posted by: very disappointed Location: north judson on Oct 2, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I want to 1st say to this station~ I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU WOULD AIR THIS! These are STILL kids! WHAT IF they are PROVEN innocent? Their names & reputations are being DESTROYED! What happened to a society that believed in innocent until PROVEN guilty and protecting our CHILDREN? Was the station aware there are AT LEAST 4 others suspected, even detained, for the alleged involvement of these crimes? Why would you risk jeopardizing the future of these KIDS- BEFORE they were ever found guilty? You have depicted them to be such HORRIBLE people. If you knew any of them you would know otherwise. They just made some really bad choices. McCan had one of the least charges against him (3) and yet his name is being thrown around like some hardened criminal involved in all 15 cases! Why weren't the names of the rest of the boys used? Because they weren't "STAR football players"? They DO deserve to be punished Mr Lewandowski, but they DO NOT deserve 'time' like "any other adult" b/c THEY ARE NOT ADULTS

Posted by: Ben Location: LaPorte on Oct 2, 2008 at 11:48 PM
We're not talking about some "kids" shaking down another student for his lunch money. These are serious charges. I don't think anyone would want their hard earned personal property stolen and then be told "they're only kids, lighten up". If these individuals were the ones that committed these burglaries, they were old enough to understand the consequences of their actions. People are not required to have any personal responsibility today and the growing populations in our courts and prison systems are a reflection of this phenomenon. The guilty are always very sorry for their actions, but their "sorry" only pertains to the fact they were caught.

Posted by: Brooke Location: KNOX on Oct 2, 2008 at 11:38 PM
As for Mr. Lewandowski, I cannot believe you could actually go this low! In my opinion, This does not make you any better than the GUILTY people that stole from you. YOU STOLE FROM THE KIDS THAT YOU MENTIONED. YOU STOLE THEIR REPUTATION & Possibly much more! How dare you try to judge anyone? These are KIDS. So why isnt the media respecting that? I dont understand why in the world this station used names WITHOUT ANY PROOF! Hope the person that allowed this story can sleep at night knowing that an innocent child may have their future taken from them thanks to his name being smeared so badly & his RIGHT to have a FAIR trial is GONE! THIS STORY IS VERY UNFAIR! TO "STAN THE MAN"...PLEASE! Do you honestly not realize how dumb your comment is? PATHETIC! For the record, THESE BOYS DIDNT GET TO PLAY! Makes it worse for you being that Knox still won WITHOUT our best player! Now that I said that, THE POINT IS: These are just KIDS. EVERYONE needs to respect that! THIS IS WRONG!!

Posted by: ed Location: jimtown on Oct 2, 2008 at 11:21 PM
the Mccan kid .is in trouble in every sport he is in .. He is not a star.

Posted by: J on Oct 2, 2008 at 10:41 PM
There are mistakes and there are MISTAKES.

Posted by: Ben Location: Mishawaka on Oct 2, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Any juvenile crime that would be a felony if committed as an adult waives their right to privacy. especially if they are 16-17 years old. for something so stupid everyone deserves to know

Posted by: Bob Location: Knox on Oct 2, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Typical Knoxican behavior, I live in the country of knox and it is activity like this that has forced me to install steel plates on my door jams, security cameras and barbed wire fences. This got a lot of attention but the countless other robberies that fill the newspapers don't. Knox is worse than Gary. The judge should not only throw the book at them but tip the bookcase over on them too.

Posted by: crystal Location: knox on Oct 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM
I THINK IF THOSE YOUNG MEN WANT TO ACT LIKE ADULTS AND ROB PLACES, THEY SHOULD GET TREATED LIKE ADULTS, TAKE RESPONEABILTY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS...

Posted by: Edward Location: Mi on Oct 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Awwww. They are being punished already ? B.S. They cannot play football ? Too bad. They are only grounded. They should go directly to jail with a high or no bond. Give these crooks the max I say. Prison, restitution, community service and felony records. So what they are athletes. Let them off easy and they will do it again. They deserve the maximum punishment. Punks like this deserve NO second chances. Throw the book at them on ALL counts. NO plea bargain. Do a crime and do the time. All of what they have comming to them. Let them suffer as the victoms have to. NO LIENIENCY.

Posted by: Angie Location: Granger on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:46 PM
Perplexed I agree with you that the names of juveniles should be kept private but your statement "I'm sure these kids regret what they did" WHAT?? They committed multiple burglaries, it doesn't sound to me like they feel bad AT ALL!! It sounds to me like it got easier every time they did it.

Posted by: Tator on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:20 PM
Not one mistake but 15, lockem up

Posted by: Robert Location: Mishawaka on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:18 PM
WORTHLESS, WORTHLESS, WORTHLESS Kids, they will be a burden on society for their entire lives, save us tax payers money and put them down NOW!

Posted by: Tator on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:15 PM
So whats up with Dembowski's grand son?

Posted by: Judgmental Location: USA on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:12 PM
This is not a one time "kid" prank. The Sand Bar was not the only place allegedly hit by bandits. Of course, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I do believe however that these names should be kept confidential until waved to adult court as it should be. These were calculated burgleries and a lot of money was stolen. If the kid was an "A" student, he wasn't too smart in the way of life.

Posted by: citizen Location: Indiana on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:07 PM
LOSERS!!!!!

Posted by: Julie on Oct 2, 2008 at 08:47 PM
Are you people idiots?? According to this article, they've been stealing for at least 8 months (that is known), they've stolen $10,000 in cash PLUS beer by the case & keg, & other items. That's not "kids stuff" that's hard core premeditated repeated burglary. I'm guessing all of you wouldn't be defending them if they had stolen from one of you or your family repeatedly? The sad thing is they're are back at school? That's ridiculous. They are obviously already hardened criminals with no conscious and they deserve to be locked up. Their names need to be published, as well as their faces so that the neighbors, classmates & community members can lock up their belongings & keep an eye for them. They need to be tried as adults so the charges don't just "go away" when they turn 18. All you people crying poor baby are the very cause of this behavior in our society. It's time this nation gets back to some real discipline to deter this ridiculous behavior from our youth!!!

Posted by: familyfriend Location: north judson on Oct 2, 2008 at 08:45 PM
Im VERY disappointed in this station for allowing this to be aired. The boys you mentioned HAVE NOT been positively ID'd as those in the video. With help of your station their names and reps are being smeared. What happened to protecting our youth? ESPECIALLY since they HAVE NOT been proven guilty! Their ENTIRE LIVES are at stake!Do you expect them EVER to be looked at the same IF they are NOT guilty? Mr. Lewandowski: you want them to pay as "any other adult". You are forgetting that they're NOT ADULTS! What they did is wrong, but to be sent to prison over some alcohol is LUDICROUS!! Up to now these boys have been OUTSTANDING students, NEVER have been in trouble in their lives! Just got caught up in some bad choices. They should be punished but I pray the court shows them mercy and we can remember the good in these boys, not b/c they play ftbl, but for the good they have been to this point. Maybe John, you should reflect on the mercy given in your own family b4 being so quick to judge!

Posted by: Mother of FOUR Location: Not too far away on Oct 2, 2008 at 08:34 PM
The more lenient we get with disciplining these kids for the CRIMES they have committed, the more crimes they will eventually commit. Had they not been caught, do you really think they would have regretted what they did? Not even close. These kids need a wake up call. It doesn't matter if they are straight A students or star athletes. They committed a crime. Lets get back to the facts. Criminals are criminals. They will not learn unless some type of punishment takes place. These boys lost their "Privacy" when they committed these crimes. Time to stop giving excuses and babying these criminals. Those of you who have a bleeding heart for these kids would sue them in an instant should they break into YOUR house and violate YOUR privacy...

Posted by: kelli Location: mishawaka on Oct 2, 2008 at 08:27 PM
no one today wants to admit kids are bad, but we need to stop giving the excuses why they did some wrong. They need to be punshed. I work with kids, they a special and I love them. but parents do not want to raise kids any more so they leave it up to the schools and the boys and girls clubs. It is sad!! BUTVERY TRUE

Posted by: JOhn on Oct 2, 2008 at 08:18 PM
1 time we could forgive... dend them to adult court.

Posted by: Laura Cox Location: South Bend on Oct 2, 2008 at 08:18 PM
Amanda, STOP being so ignorant! There is a world of difference between a mistake and a crime. I'm sure all criminals would love to have you as a judge! No playing and having to be on house arrest. WOW!! All that for just stealing beer, a safe and a big screen TV. Such harsh punishment for costing the owner over $2,200 in insurance premiums and $10,000 in stolen cash. I'm sure they'd all learn from their "mistakes" under your system of justice!! Hopefully you'll never be the victim of a crime. But if you are, maybe some other dimwitted little twit like yourself will tell YOU to STOP being so judgmental and understand they deserve a 2nd chance because they just made a "mistake". And I'm sure you'll understand when the people that hurt and take from you dont get to play Friday football because they're on house arrest!! I'm sure you'd understand if they arent made to be responsible for their "mistakes" or made to pay restitution to you. After all they'd already be paying so horribly!

Posted by: Not confused Location: Elkhart on Oct 2, 2008 at 07:55 PM
PERP is a good name for you. This lame mollycoddling of criminals is the reason these THIEVES get away so often. I guess if they had dragged the owner to death or something you would want counseling for them. They should enjoy 20 years in prison to think about why they should have stuck to football and studies. No doubt you are an obama voter right?

Posted by: Ashley Location: Knox on Oct 2, 2008 at 07:43 PM
I agree with most of these comments, what did happen to keeping the underage names private? I guess that doesnt happen anymore. And yeah kids will be kids, and they are teens and teenagers do stupid things and they should get a second chance. Give them another chance, dont lock them up for 1 stupid mistake. They know what they did was wrong, and they are paying for it, they have no life now.

Posted by: Disturbed Location: South Bend on Oct 2, 2008 at 07:35 PM
Five times over the summer,and the first time they were in there for over two hours?Maybe you should have taken some of that $10,000.00 in cash and invested in an alarm system.your insurance company should have deemed you uninsurable as well!

Posted by: perplexed Location: Plymouth on Oct 2, 2008 at 07:11 PM
I am perplexed. What ever happened to keeping the names of juveniles private? Also I thought citizens were innocent until proven guilty. I sure couldn't tell anything from the video you showed. Those intruders could have been most anybody from what I saw! I am very disappointed that you chose to publish names of juveniles, and then you pretty much declared them guilty. Like Maureen said, "Kids do stupid things." Notice she said "kids"!I am sure these kids regret what they did. Like lots of other kids they just did not think. That is the reason we have the juvenile justice system. Plese do not ruin their lives and their future.Congratulations to the Knox School System for keeping information private. In this age of so many privacy issues, how could you broadcast names of juveniles? My heart goes out to the families of these kids. I pray the kids are treated like kids. Also, I suspect some adults were involved. Who would buy expensive items from a teenager? Please reconsider this story.

Posted by: Stan the Man Location: Culver on Oct 2, 2008 at 07:09 PM
No wonder they beat us for their Homecoming. They probably had an adreneline rush waiting for their next heist.

Posted by: amanda on Oct 2, 2008 at 07:01 PM
everyone should STOP being so judgemental! everyone has made mistakes before and they're paying for it now by not getting to play and being on house arrest. this may be wrong to say but Mr. Lewandowski, i bet anything that you have made a huge mistake before and have been given a second chance and they should ALSO get a second chance. they know what they did was wrong and they're paying for it now just like i said.

Posted by: akljka Location: plymouth on Oct 2, 2008 at 06:59 PM
i think they should be charged as adults

Posted by: mark on Oct 2, 2008 at 06:42 PM
break the law, suffer as anyone else would. time to tell these kids they are wrong and time to grow up


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