Property tax bills coming Dec. 15th
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St. Joe County sets timetable
Posted: 6:00 PM Dec 1, 2008
Last Updated: 6:38 PM Dec 1, 2008
Reporter: Mark Peterson
Email Address: mpeterson@wndu.com

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St. Joseph County finally has a clue how and when it will collect property taxes for this year.

The bills are being sent out much later than usual, and, for some, they should come uncomfortably close to the holidays.

St. Joseph County Treasurer Sean Coleman today announced that the bills will be mailed two weeks from today, starting the week of December 15th.

That means some folks who have already started their Christmas shopping don’t know what their biggest Christmas bill is going to be, (assuming that’s their property tax bill).

"Well yes it is a big deal,” said Javan Rogers of South Bend. “Especially when you don't know from one day to the next one what's going on."

Today, Rogers came to the property tax payment line to fork over what he guessed he might owe. While he was alone in making a payment, perhaps he wasn’t alone in his concern that his bill still hasn’t arrived.

"We were concerned when they're out shopping at Christmas time, that they're also going to have to pay their property tax, their first installment that same week,” said St. Joseph County Commissioner Mark Dobson. “That might change the Christmas dynamic in families."

Dobson and others bent over backwards to avoid appearing Grinch-like. They appealed to the state for a February due date.

While that appears to take care of much of the conflict with Christmas, it creates serious income tax implications.

Property taxes must be paid in calendar 2008, in order to be claimed as a 2008 income tax deduction.

For many with a mortgage, there’s the potential that the decision will be made for them.

"We do have one escrow service that has 70-different mortgage companies that they make payments for and we sent letters to those 70-mortgage companies because the escrow company itself will not and cannot statutorily make the payments before--they don't make the payments before the due date, or very close to the due date,” said St. Joseph County Treasurer Sean Coleman.

Coleman says that St. Joseph County is one of only seven counties in the state that has yet to send out bills.

There is one exception to that rule. Taxpayers in Olive Township will have to wait even longer. Olive Township shares a school corporation with LaPorte County, and LaPorte County has not received final budget approval from the state.

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Posted by: Concerned Location: St Joe county on Dec 2, 2008 at 08:49 PM
this is what happens when Dems run local government..oh i can't wait until obuma gets to running things his way..better off not working and getting spoon fed then.. expect it folks.. it is the law for them to have it out to us(our tax bills) prior to may deadline..but they just excuse themselves year after year in hopes of robbing higher amounts from our wallets to pay for thier decatant manners and programs...the founding fathers would be ashamed of this county and how they tried to rip off it's tax payers for even more than the state allows.. and yea since last year was a single shot..arguing with your mortage company about not taking double the single payment for the years taxes is something we all will have to go thru again.. it's turely sad!

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 2, 2008 at 07:10 PM
How long would you have your job if you messed it up this much all the time? WOuld your boss be OK with projects coming in a month or more late? Why don't our official have the same kind of responsiblity? Vote them ALL out next time!

Posted by: Wally on Dec 2, 2008 at 04:18 PM
My taxes are so damn high that I'm struggling to come up with the thousands I need. My taxes are higher that a thirty year mortgage would be on this house. I'm glad that Mark Dobson was able to give me some more time. The big thing that I think is needed to fight this mess is to abolish property taxes period. This is how people get the city bosses who should be working for us off their backs. Government needs money to function but this must be some continuation of that fuzzy math. Now the additional St Joe County income taxes and the federal taxes from all the bail-outs plus the about to explode electric and gas prices should further help us in making it next to impossible to survive. Why not just get the federal government to bail out the city and call my bill even?

Posted by: a mom Location: south bend on Dec 2, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Yes we all know we owe taxes, and they are usually due by May 10th and Nov 10th. However, not only do the taxpayers not know when the taxes are due, we don't even know the amount from year to year. I have no problem paying my taxes. I do have a problem with the dates and amounts changing on a whim.

Posted by: OMG Location: SB on Dec 2, 2008 at 02:34 PM
TO ME: I agree with just a portion of your comment. It is due and people should have it tucked away to make the payment. However - some may have used it to live on since our economy is getting harder to live in. Also, our county it wasting our money by not getting the info to the state and therefore all these entities are borrowing to make payments until taxes are collected which in turn we pay the interest on. So now what say you? Our county messed up AGAIN and we keep having to pay for it.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Mishawaka on Dec 2, 2008 at 02:30 PM
Great! I have 6 properties with thousands of dollars in escrow accounts and none of the income taxes will be paid in 2008. My taxes decreased (due to the circuit breaker) so not only am I getting bilked out of MY income tax deductions for this coming tax year but the mortgage companies get to retain MY escrow overages due to the lowered tax bills for just that much longer. I really could have used MY $$ for Christmas. Thanks very much to the Inidana officials who had control over this situation. Nice job elected officials! Nothing like putting the screws to your taxpayers!!! None of you will have my vote next election--

Posted by: Me Location: Goshen on Dec 2, 2008 at 01:25 PM
What is wrong with all of you people who now have a ruined Christmas? Stop blaming Mitch, the mayor, etc. and take a good hard look in the mirror. Property taxes are not a surprise. They come every year and this year they just happen to be late. Who cares? Either your money is sitting in escrow waiting to be paid OR you have had it in a bank account gathering a little bit of interest. If you don't have the money to pay this because you didn't save it, well then shame on you! You ruined your own holiday by being irresponsible. Did you just think property taxes were going to disappear? If you never had the money to pay your taxes when they were due OR now, you shouldn't be owning a home. If it is sitting in escrow or gathering interest, I think youI do understand the issue of having an issue on your fed. and state taxes. Elkhart Co. just got our bills a few weeks ago and I will need to check when our second installment is due to make sure my escrow pays it by 12/31/08.

Posted by: ME: To Taxpayer Location: South Bend on Dec 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM
I too have been paying the money to my mortgage company but they are just holding it there....not paying until they receive a bill. If they don't pay it out of your escrow in 2008 say bye bye to you federal tax deduction for 2008.

Posted by: Ryan Location: Granger on Dec 2, 2008 at 11:51 AM
The county is asking for the taxes later than usual, but we know they are going to demand it. Before christmas, after christmas, did anybody honestly think they would just forget about the whole thing??? For those people like me without escrow accounts, we knew we would be paying this money and should have been saving accordingly. Later due date is an opportunity to earn a little more interest.

Posted by: ME Location: South Bend on Dec 2, 2008 at 11:49 AM
All you people are complaining about when the payment is due. Are property taxes a surprise to you? Don't they happen every year? It's not like you did not know that the bill was coming! What about all the people that have had that money sitting in their escrow all year only to be screwed on our federal returns this year? Sure we can take the deductions next year but many will have to pay federal taxes this year because the payment could not be made in 2008. As far as the state income tax return goes we will get screwed even more because you will not be able to take a deduction this year and next year you will be limited to the $2000.00 Max deduction. Anyway that you look at it, it is a win win for government and a lose lose for taxpayers.

Posted by: Tax Payer Location: SB on Dec 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Um, call me crazy, but didn’t we all KNOW that we have to pay property taxes in 2008 no matter when the bills are mailed? Really, this isn’t some new surprise tax being sprung on us. We all know we owe the money. What difference does it make if it’s due December 24th or August 24th – you should have the money set aside to pay it – especially since you’ve been given plenty of extra time to save! Personally, my property taxes are paid by my mortgage holder so I’ve been making payments on my 2008 taxes for the past 11 months. Makes no difference to me when the county collects it.

Posted by: ANON on Dec 2, 2008 at 10:28 AM
STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES, MA MA SAYS. Oh for crying out loud, let's plan this a bit better. People have the most money around June when they get tax money - make the bills due then! Think boys and girls - 'cause we all know you're not rocket scientists. Forrest Gump for County Treasurer.

Posted by: tom on Dec 2, 2008 at 10:21 AM
i live in elkhart county and my tax bill went down from $3600 to &1600 and i luv it. what i really hope what happens is the county govts gets rid of at least 50% of their labor and 100 % of spending our money like drunken sailors on leave. Time for our elected officials to tighten their belts and start living within their means. Good luck

Posted by: mark Location: south bend on Dec 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM
here we go again in st. joseph county. they over spend their budget, mismanage the taxpayers money and then dump it on us. now they want to try and raise the county income tax and TRIPLE IT!!!!!!! taxpayers speak up. why did they wait until AFTER the election to do this? clever...so many people are out of work, unsure of how to buy food or medicine, and they want to take more from our checks! why don't they take a pay cut? why don't they give up some of their benefits so the rest of us don't have to pay more? this is dirty politics at its best. how can they sleep at night taking more money from people that need to heat their homes, pay their property taxes, feed their children, etc. hopefully the people of this county will say enough is enough. who can we tax to help us pay our bills if we don't have the money? we have to live within our means, it is about time the county does as well. we have a wheel tax, excise tax, income tax, county income tax, high property taxes, stop!

Posted by: Anna Location: South Bend on Dec 2, 2008 at 08:59 AM
I do not want a later due date. My mortgage company will not pay my taxes until next year if they get the Feb due date. I will end up OWING even more this year (I will be taxed for what I ultimately am paying in tax.) Tax upon tax. This is not right.

Posted by: KRB Location: Plymouth on Dec 2, 2008 at 05:52 AM
That's right. Blame Mitch. It was his fault your county's (elected) officials drug their feet getting the information down to the State for approval. The state was able to get all 92 Indiana counties tax information completed except a few counties like St. Joe and LaPorte counties. How can it be the State's (Mitch's) fault? "conraf" you are wrong. If St. Joe county had their act together, they'd of gotten their bills when the rest of us got ours. Don't let your political stance affect your reasoning of the issue. Most taxpayers I have spoken to have seen a 25-35% decrease in their property tax bill. I'd say that's a step in the right direction...unless you are one of the many people who rely on high taxes to pay their own salaries!

Posted by: conraf on Dec 2, 2008 at 05:22 AM
I think I will send my tax payment out a little late this year, maybe sometime in June. Oh yeah DON'T TRY TO CHARGE ME LATE FEES. Its not my fault that they are late, I'm blamming Mitch. Why do we have to pay at the end of the year? Why not pay in June or at least in March after tax return season? Just my thoughts.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 2, 2008 at 01:02 AM
Merry christmas to the state..

Posted by: Maureen Location: Granger on Dec 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM
How in the world do these elected persons keep their jobs.They can never get anything done on time. Will somebody please get with the program. ANd to top it off for the inadequacies in local government they have the nerve to go head and vote for the option income tax. Like our founders cried:Taxation without representation. Resign! No buyouts for any of you. Instead you owe us taxpayers money back for your poor work skills. Go and join loser Luecke and company.

Posted by: Dorsch Location: South Bend on Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM
I would love to see a law put in place that says that the tax bills will be sent 30 days prior to due dates in May and November, failure to do so will result in the forfeiture of the counties ability to collect. Sometimes we all need a little kick in the rear to get in gear.

Posted by: Cole on Dec 1, 2008 at 09:38 PM
"Coleman says that St. Joseph County is one of only seven counties in the state that has yet to send out bills" How can that be? Wait- why am I surprised?

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 1, 2008 at 09:38 PM
...and while you're at it, why don't you increase local taxes?

Posted by: Mary Location: SB on Dec 1, 2008 at 09:07 PM
This kind of imcompetence should be illegal. Why can't they adhere to a schedule?

Posted by: J. Location: South Bend on Dec 1, 2008 at 08:50 PM
You know, I don't understand how IN can continue to exist. If regular folks didn't get their bills paid on time, we would have hell to pay... How can they demand payment so soon?

Posted by: Brian Location: South Bend on Dec 1, 2008 at 08:32 PM
With as many people in the area unemployed, I'd like to know why it has taken our government so long to get their act together and why they would wait until Christmas time to send these bills out. Obviously they have no idea of the sturggles going on in our community. It is a challenge to put food on the table and clothe are children. Any chance there was left of having a decent Christmas for our families is out the window now. Thanks alot!

Posted by: taxpayer Location: S.Bend on Dec 1, 2008 at 07:23 PM
While I am not surprised at the late date again. I am thankful that people like Mark Dobson does show care to fellow people and pushed for a later due date than the first week of the new year. I am also quite sure our mayor had no help in this. Thank you, for the people who do care. This will make it easier for everyone. Dobson, you should maybe run for mayor.

Posted by: raggedy Location: south bend on Dec 1, 2008 at 06:43 PM
Way to go. Why not wait make sure they arrive on Christmas eve you big stupid people. Do you have children that you have to feed? Clothe? That have waited all year for Christmas?

Posted by: C Location: South Bend on Dec 1, 2008 at 06:41 PM
Way to stimulate the economy. Its different when its taxs return season then CHRISTMAS time.......booo

Posted by: Mike on Dec 1, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Great timing, 10 days before Christmas.


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