Fans escorted from Notre Dame game for throwing snowballs
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On Saturday, the Notre Dame football team faced an embarrassing loss to Syracuse. But during the game, the team faced a flurry of snowballs.

Before and after the big Irish loss, students took their frustrations out on the snow.

Several fans had to be taken out of the stadium by police after throwing snowballs.

Fans were throwing snow the entire game, taking advantage of both snow and ice chunks left over from this week's big winter storm.

They were told twice over the loud speakers to stop.

They hit other fans, police on the field, and even their own football team -- something football coach Charlie Weis talked about Sunday in his press conference.

"I was taken aback about it, to tell you the truth," he admitted. "I was caught a little off guard because they started coming early. And I think that maybe it was meant in fun at the start of the game, but it's a dangerous thing, and it's just something I wish would have been avoided."

Notre Dame Security Police were unable to tell us how many people were escorted out of the stadium for the unruly behavior.
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Posted by: Kristen Location: Knoxville on Dec 2, 2008 at 11:19 PM
you guys are idiots...i WAS at that game....people were throwing snowballs because there was lots of snow, and they are college students...DO THE MATH!!!dont comment on this unless you actually know what you are talking about!! the only intentional throwing being done was at the syracuse people...JEEZE
Posted by: JP Location: Caifornia on Dec 1, 2008 at 09:52 PM
I am ashamed of Notre Dame fans acting like this at a home game. It only takes a few of them to give the rest of us a bad name. Last Saturday I attended the ND vs USC game and ran into USC fans that had very poor sportsmanship when it came to their cheering. For the most part, the fans outside where very nice but in the stands they acted like the south central LA idiots that they are. I noticed several Notre Dame fans applauding the USC players and the band during their performances but these guys had the nerve to boo the Notre Dame band and the players even after having a 21-0 lead at the second half. I personally had an idiot behind me that was teaching his young son the same behavior. What ever happened to the rivalry games without the poor sportmanship? I was thinking that Notre Dame fans were different at home and showed appreciation for the other teams but I guess I was wrong. If you are going to a game to be an idiot,stay home and let the rest of us enjoy the game! Shame on you!!
Posted by: tony on Nov 29, 2008 at 09:03 PM
i will no longer be a fan to a team of a school that doesnt care if there team wins or looses. Notre Dame,officials,coach,yo all bite!!!!!!!
Posted by: So There on Nov 28, 2008 at 05:04 PM
To ANONYMOUS who keeps complaining about a smell. Take a shower and you will notice that the smell stops following you around.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 27, 2008 at 09:54 PM
ND students have absolutely 0 to do with anything in Mish or Granger doing well. They stick to S.B. bars and restaurants for the most part. They are not here when bars and restaurants are busiest.. summer,holiday breaks, etc... Be realistic. I frequently go to all the "new" businesses and trust me it is not flowing with students. Never! Thankfully that is
Posted by: The Truth Location: South Bend on Nov 27, 2008 at 01:16 AM
2:27- You misspelled "clowds." Volunteering is good, but... 1. ND is the largest employer in St. Joseph County. As I am sure you know, employment income seems to have a "trickle-down" effect on the economy (i.e. spending). 2. ND is constantly constructing new facilities...jobs and $ (e.g. new law school building is a $50 million contract). Ask Ziolkowski Construction about that one. 3. ND does not pay taxes. However, there are numerous alumni, students, and faculty who purchase property here. These people pay taxes, and, as far as the condos, those taxes are on $250K properties (which far exceeds the median home price in SB). Also, new construction (jobs, $). 4. 11,000 ND students bring money into the economy (plus families, visitors, and alums). Do you think that the restaurants on Grape Road or expansion at University Park Mall is due to Mishawaka being a sprawling metropolis? Again, jobs and $. You get the point, right? Jobs and $. Game. Set. Match.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 25, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Hey, "TheTruth," does ND pay taxes to South Bend....at all?!? Give me a break, and pull your head out of the clowds or wherever it may be. This is the point where domers like you say something stupid like, "well, ND students volunteer and blah blah blah." Volunteer?!?! To do what? Things we dont need! Things that are nice...but do nothing to help this town. ND good for the economy? Hardly. Some hotels, bars, and resteraunts...maybe. Unless many of the students are driving down the road to buy a Humvee, they do nothing to help this town. Dork.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 25, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Now if only Notre Dame can figure out away to charge for making snow balls in it's stadium everything will be OK. After all its all about money under the dome!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 25, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Thats what happens when a bunch of drunk people go to a football game.
Posted by: kate Location: elkhart on Nov 25, 2008 at 08:50 AM
OK, the "kids", can't call them fans, want to have fun with the snow? Then throw the snowballs in the stands, at your friends. I think it was rude, and childish. Granted the game wasn't pretty, but those young men out there, have given up a lot to be out there. Don't you think, especially the seniors, were embarassed enough with the game, without you adding to it? If someone would've been hurt, then it wouldn't have been so much fun? Snowball, with an ice filled center, could have really hurt someone. Grow up, or stay home. Right now ND has enough problems, they don't need this too!!! Next time, stay out of the stadium and just tailgate!
Posted by: conrad Location: south bend on Nov 25, 2008 at 05:24 AM
I hate these post bashing students. I live in an area that is mostly students, and I have never had any problems with students. I might find a can or bottle in my yard, but I think they are all good kids. Its a college town that is not a student friendly town. I see students everyday and have never seen anything that any college student ever has ever done. What do you expect the students to do during a losing game. I am sorry that people got hit, but hell ND has a kicker that could not hit water if he fell out of a boat. For those of you that say ND does not effect the econmoy go downtown after ND loses a game and see the empty businesses. That hurts the economy. ND Does not pay taxes, nor do they do anything for the city but ask for money and property. For free I might add.
Posted by: Carka Location: SB on Nov 25, 2008 at 01:05 AM
Okay, so I couldn't stand it anymore! Ha Ha!! Notre Dame, you SUCK!!!!
Posted by: JoeShit ZRagman Location: South BEnd on Nov 24, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Hey, who cares. I'd rather throw snowballs than watch ND get thrown around the field. Weis out. Gruden in. See you next year !
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 24, 2008 at 11:46 PM
No one ever said that ND was not good for the economy. But it is fun to make fun of the students. I mean it's only speaking the truth. Most have little or no street smarts and a lot of them smell. Probably do to the bad water and old pipes in the dorms. Hey I would be mad also if my parents paid all that money to live in crappy dorms or wannabe nice apartments that are in the heart of the ghetto. It is funny... most people from here would never ever live in the grose areas the students choose to live. Just another example of not having common sense. Who wouldn't do some research before they chose where to live? Stupidity at its best.
Posted by: Timbo Location: SBI on Nov 24, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Next week I want all you Irish fans who attend the game at SC to throw roses at the Trojan players to wish them off to the Rose Bowl... cause Oregon will beat Oregon St. this weekend USC 48 ND 0
Posted by: The Truth Location: South Bend on Nov 24, 2008 at 09:57 PM
I love how you townies bash Notre Dame and its students. Without us and this University, you would not have an economy. Everything in these cities revolves around Notre Dame and the people it brings here. Wake up.
Posted by: Pat Location: Shenandoah on Nov 24, 2008 at 05:46 PM
A few persons in the crowd decided to take out their frustrations with snowballs. I hope no one was hurt. The real shame was watching the terrible showing by ND on the field. What happened to the team that beat Michigan? Why can't these bluechip athletes perform? Syracuse is now 3-8, and ND is 6-5(soon to be 6-6), when the Fighting Irish should be 8-3. The fans who threw snowballs should be punished, but all the fans in the stadium(and all ND fans) should be given a refund for the last two seasons.
Posted by: Willie Location: Niles on Nov 24, 2008 at 04:55 PM
Aww, let the kids have some fun. Although they never threw snowballs at Willingham, did they...?
Posted by: Crazazy Location: nowheresville on Nov 24, 2008 at 04:15 PM
over 100 posts and counting about ND and snowballs but hardly anything to say on the Obama economic team...says a lot about our focus and priorities...
Posted by: Tax Payer Location: South Bend on Nov 24, 2008 at 04:13 PM
To BEA and all others on this post. Please attend SB City Council MEETINGS like I do. You will hear the City Council talk about the lack of ND paying SB Police officers for Traffic detail and security. At this time SB Officers fill out a BLUE Over time card that is paid through the CITY!!
Posted by: Just Sayin' Location: SB on Nov 24, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Love the hate speech guys. Not sure that making bad decisions and throwing snowballs cancels out all the good ND students do. Aside from the actual volunteering students do, what would SB's economy be like without them? I agree, taking aim at cops was uncalled for and I would like to see at the very least an email from President Jenkins sent out to the student body, but this ND bashing is a bit over the top. Jealously?
Posted by: Patti Location: Niles on Nov 24, 2008 at 03:34 PM
For those of you involved in the snowball incident, you should be totally ashamed to call yourself an ND fan, you are a disgrace to the Notre Dame College and to the entire city of South Bend,please take your spoiled behinds back where you came from and save us all the misery of hearing how you were mistreated by the local law enforcement agencies and save your parents from spending time and money on their lawyers. ND has enough to be disgusted with and should not have to worry about your spoiled little butts not acting appropriately as an ND fan would. If you cannot act appropriately then stay home and don't ruin it for those who do enjoy going to the games win or lose. This is coming from a true fan.
Posted by: to iLove on Nov 24, 2008 at 03:24 PM
iLove, you are wrong, most of the things thrown were ice balls not snow balls. You don't have a clue. Those throwing the ice balls are just educated idiots.
Posted by: Chad Location: Michiana on Nov 24, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Part II: Reading down a little farther I see the comments about ND students continuing to throw the snowballs as showing lack of respect, rude and having no self control. The admissions office is to blame then I guess, they enrolled these "premier" kids onto their campus. 99% of the alumni I have ever met carry all of these traits as well: rude, arrogant, disrespectful, etc... I wouldnt expect these kids to act any different. Thank God for true Indiana states schools that actually score higher in there degree programs than the be all end all Notre Shame!
Posted by: Chad Location: Michiana on Nov 24, 2008 at 03:11 PM
It took me a few down the list to find it but one hit it dead on: "Why was the snow not removed to begin with?" That is the obvious question! ND should be more embarassed that there was that much snow in the stands to throw, not the fact it was thrown. A couple of lawsuits from fallin patrons is a much bigger problem than a few cheerleaders getting plunked. And don't tell me they didnt have the manpower to remove it. Going to games for 30 years I see hundreds of ushers, concession stand attendants and police officers who get into games free every saturday. I would hope that they would give some of "THEIR" time to help cleanup the mess! Young Adults Alcohol Snow = hmmmm, what else would you expect ND. Dont blame the students, be accountable for your actions! It isn't hard to see that Charlie and his excuses don't fall far from the ND family tree. The university itself is a joke!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 24, 2008 at 02:52 PM
Notre Dame students are like another breed. I have never encountered so many people with no common sense till I unfortanately was forced to be around some students. Have all the booksmarts you want but wow that will not get you through life. Neither will the "well my daddy is a lawyer". No one cares. At all. Plenty of people are from here that have daddies as lawyers and they do not act as ignorant. It is quite laughable though to see all of them grouped together acting in the same disgusting way. And with all the $$ it costs to go to ND you guys should really complain about the water in the dorms. Do you all not notice how terrible you smell? It's disgusting.
Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Nov 24, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Just goes to show you the true nature of some ND fans. They are fine and dandy if their team wins, but big babies if they lose. Even though I am not an ND fan, these particular people did not make a very good impression on South Bend or ND.
Posted by: WTF Location: SB on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM
"If one of your snowballs had hit my daughter or myself, I would have beaten your face to a bloody mess." And you're attacking the ethics of Notre Dame students? I think you have some reassessing to do...
Posted by: iLOVEsnow Location: SB on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:52 PM
IT'S JUST SNOW!
Posted by: Leprechaun 2 Location: South Bend on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:22 PM
To set the record straight for the person thinking the situation was "blown COMPLETELY out of proportion". First, my apologies to the Catholic faith and The Crusades reference. Second, the "Leprechaun" was in reference to the horror movie, which is about as scary as the Irish. Third, I also know someone who was at the game and regularly attends home games. The situation WAS that bad. Certainly we expect drunken college kids to not make good decisions. However, considering ND is a religious institution one might hope for better behavior from the student body. Certainly throwing snowballs at the authorities and their own team is NOT the Christian thing to do. Let alone extremely disrepectful and immature on a number of levels.
Posted by: Angie on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:22 PM
I was at the game - there were MANY snowballs and iceballs thrown during the game from the student section. The announcer told the students to stop more than twice. I was appalled at the students' actions - especially when aiming at the police and cheerleaders during their stunts. No class.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:21 PM
The little rich brats only got escorted out! It figures... They are privileged again... Now u know why S bend hated ND... Hey charlie I heard Wendy's is hiring...
Posted by: Anonymous Location: north pole on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Well to all you upper class society that would never throw a snow ball, you make me sick. Those of you who live in glass houses shouldn't throw snow balls. You are far from perfect, these are kids. They drink and carry on like kids do. Spoiled a bit, but that don't make them bad people. Maybe if the game was a bit more interesting then they wouldn't of got side tracked. I find it humerous. The only excuse they have is they are young, full of energy and fun. I, no ND grad, still at this day will be the first to pick up a snowball and pelt someone. Go outside, get off your computer and enjoy. You might learn how to have a little fun for yourself, or are you to "good" for that. You may want to wait until night, then you won't have to worry about what your neighbor might think...lol
Posted by: ME Location: AR on Nov 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Line up all those "kids" throwing snowballs and let Clausen take shots at them with snowballs - i would wager they will change their minds on his arm
Posted by: !00% Irish Location: Dowagiac on Nov 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM
AS FAR AS CHARLIE BEING WORRIED ABOUT BEING HUMILIATED BY USC..... NOTRE DAME IS HUMILITATED BY USC EVEN ON THEIR BEST DAYS. THE WAY THEY ARE PLAYING NOW, USC IS NOT ONLY GOING TO HUMILIATE THEM BUT HAND THEM THEIR BEHINDS AND HAVE THEM BACK ON THE PLANE TO SOUTH BEND IN NO TIME FLAT.
Posted by: Phillip Location: Notre Dame on Nov 24, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Lol at Slades comment "So a few snowballs flew Saturday, be glad they didn't play in Iraq. " Using that mentality Slade, you should be glad the economy is in the toilet because there isn't room for your very large head. I'm sure the students with large welts on the backs of their necks are glad they were snow balls and not grenades. I'm sure the NBC camera man is happy that his camera was spared the thousands of dollars in damage that surely would have been inflicted by a direct hit with one of those ice balls. And I'll bet the St. Joseph County Deputy is glad the snow ball hit him in the chest and not in the face or throat area of his neck. Yeah, Notre Dame should have removed the snow from the stadium, afterall don't we child proof our homes when we have babies around. Lets not hold these little kids responsible for their actions. Lets pass the buck. Thats the Notre Dame way!
Posted by: Well... on Nov 24, 2008 at 09:46 AM
Like I said, John, location Rockport, these kids have a ton of excuses made for them and they know it. "The snow should have been removed prior to the game". See? That's what they prey on. How about people realizing there is snow and being careful when they are walking? I mean come on, duh. And how about the kids learning to behave? It's a shame they don't teach common sense at the "almighty Notre Dame".
Posted by: Anon Location: Mishawaka on Nov 24, 2008 at 09:37 AM
That was just pathetic ND. You guys are horrible!
Posted by: Slade Location: Mishawaka on Nov 24, 2008 at 09:13 AM
Gee! you anti-Domers really come out of the closet don't you. So a few snowballs flew Saturday, be glad they didn't play in Iraq. They would have thrown hand-grenades. Of course that would have been more of an explosive firepower than the Irish have been showning. Tom Lemming the guru of all recruiting analyst has to be stopped. Notre Dame and CW has just got to stop listening to him about how great his recommendations are. These kids come into ND thinking they are the greatest and fall flat on their kiesters. Syracuse came into this game with Nobody's and now they are Somebody's. A walk-on QB and a freshmen running back made JC and the running backs at ND and the defense look stupid. I hope the Irish eat alot of beans next Saturday, that way they can say its the beans that made them stink.
Posted by: Frank Location: Columbus ohio on Nov 24, 2008 at 08:53 AM
We need a coaching change.Get Kelly from Cincinnati, this team is sad
Posted by: John Location: Rockport on Nov 24, 2008 at 08:35 AM
I feel like the entire snowball issue could have be avoided. The snow should have been removed prior to the game. It made the steps very slick I saw several people fall. The entire day was embarrassing. I watched the pregame warm-ups, it was obvious ND had better players. Something needs to change.
Posted by: Bea Location: South Bend on Nov 24, 2008 at 08:34 AM
Erik: Get your facts straight- Notre Dame pays the security at the games not the city of South Bend. People throwing things at ANY sporting event need to be ejected. It is ridiculous to even be arguing about it now.
Posted by: Gip Location: South Bend on Nov 24, 2008 at 08:09 AM
..."jump on this rather tame incident" ...? What a pin head! A Police Officer was hit in the chest. To all you Notre Dame Students who have no concept of the real world (mainly because the University doesn't hold you responsible for the campus thefts, vandalism etc...) if that had happened off campus the idiot who threw the snowball would be sitting in jail, awaiting his/her arraignment for assault on a peace officer. A FELONY. If one of your snowballs had hit my daughter or myself, I would have beaten your face to a bloody mess and would have gladly paid the $500 fine. Thats what happens in the REAL world, not the over protected world of campus life. It's no wonder your football players don't associate with the rest of the student body. You all need baby sitters.
Posted by: to GLIB on Nov 24, 2008 at 08:06 AM
They were told to stop not once, but twice. It is very simply another demonstration of lack of respect, rudness and self-control. I am not nor have I ever been a Notre Dame fan, mainly because of the students who go there. The "I'm better than you" attitude, as someone else mentioned, the gimmie, gimmie, gimme frame of mind, but most of all....the "I can do whatever I want, when I want, because I go to Notre Dame" excuse. When they started pelting Law Enforcement...that was the last straw. Just a basic lack of respect. Period.
Posted by: Myrt on Nov 24, 2008 at 08:03 AM
To Scott: Jack Swarbrick is now the new Athletic Director.
Posted by: William Graham Location: Sports on Nov 24, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Charlie needs to go!!!!!!!!! He can spin his answer's all he wants, the team stinks. Why doesn't Charlie and the team take the hint with the snowballs? That shows how clueless he and the team is. I have been a ND fan my entire life and will not be coming to any more games until things improve.
Posted by: Erik Location: South Bend on Nov 24, 2008 at 06:47 AM
Gee - Keep up the Good Work N.D. !!! Betcha not even 1 student gets kicked out of ND. The team is an example of the students: They both SUCK!!! I sure hope that the SB MAYOR next year BILLS ND for all the security!!!! which the TAXPAYERS have been paying for!
Posted by: To all GLIB "know-it-alls" Location: Notre Dame, IN on Nov 24, 2008 at 12:30 AM
For starters, the ENTIRE situation is blown COMPLETELY out of proportion. Given the fact that throwing snowballs was not the smartest thing to be doing in the first place, there was ABSOLUTELY no harmful intention behind it. You put students (from anywhere) and a pile of snow readily available and you have a FUN and FRIENDLY snowball fight. Anybody who was at the game (I was) would have clearly seen that hitting players was the last thing on the mind of any sober-minded student. We are ND and we'll stand behind our team no matter what. And just a response to "Leprechaun" (undeserving of the title) and all other classless comments. Your comments were grossly biased against ND. And bringing the Crusades into this does nothing but underscore your obvious agenda to jump on this rather tame incident in order to malign Catholics.
Posted by: Lisa on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:21 PM
PDC the snowballs did not mke the field. It hit the players on the sideline.
Posted by: PDC Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 09:43 PM
I guess the fans aren't as abused by the stadium security as they would try to have us believe? Do they really think their behavior is Notre Dame? Where were the university administrators? Do they have any control over their students poor behavior? Do they honestly feel the students are picked on by the security and police? The game officials should have penalized the home team each time snow / any object was thrown onto the field of play. Oh but they can't treat N.D. like they would any other fans continuously throwing objects onto the field of play, after being told to stop can they? Notre Dame's t.v. network (NBC) would probably get the poor officials fired!
Posted by: Leprechaun Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:59 PM
Ah, the filthy idle rich! What a pleasant display of sportsmanship from our wealthy Catholic institution. Then again, what were the Crusades about? Maybe a new curriculum on how to behave at a sporting event should be introduced. I mean, ND is one of the few colleges to require some sort of physical education requirement, aren't they? You stay classy, Notre Dame!
Posted by: Back off Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:45 PM
Everyone get off the soap boxes. Mix a bunch of college students with snow and a bad football game and you are going to get snowballs. If that is Happy Valley or the Big House, you would get the same result. Candidly, it was more fund watching the snowballs than watching the game. I was surprised that no one ever announced that people caught throwing snowballs would be ejected. Next time, beat a 2-8 team and maybe your fans will support you. Oh and by the way, Charlie must go.
Posted by: Rational Location: USA on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:26 PM
"Notre Dame's true colors - drunkenness and arrogance." ????? Go to any SEC game-- You'll be horrified. In fact, go to ANY national public university's pregame festivities and actual game- students at the ND are tame and polite in comparison.
Posted by: No excuse Location: SB on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Snow at their footsteps, those raucous ND students cannot resist the urge to throw a snowball. Who knows what they would do if other things were at their footsteps. Criminals- that's what they are. Those students' display of arrogance and unruly behavior is extremely despicable, and shouldn't be tolerated. I fear for the community these students now inhabit, and I can only wonder how detrimental Notre Dame students are on all the communities they contact. There's nothing good about Notre Dame students, at all. Their inexusable behavior with the snowballs totally cancels out the good they do.
Posted by: N on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Oddly enough, the student section had a higher passing rating than Clausen does for the entire season. The students proved they could actually hit men down on the field, unlike Jimmy Boy.
Posted by: ND Sucks Location: SB on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:12 PM
I totally agree. Let's punish those spoiled rich kids. Classless brats. They shouldn't be allowed to live in our communities. They do nothing positive.
Posted by: Terry Location: Maine on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:07 PM
I was at a Notre Dame back in the 1960s in November and during the game it started to snow and pretty soon there sprung up the cheer "Ara stop the snow" But that was yesterday Anyone out there remember that?
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:53 PM
and some of these entitled little brats diss townies. I guess class, respect, common sense were not on the S.A.T.'s And many of you wonder why the locals have issues with many of you.
Posted by: Chief Location: ND on Nov 23, 2008 at 06:59 PM
It was snow. People are just upset because they were afraid they would get hit, and be seen crying on National TV. Charlie should be fired, not because his players need to mature, but because of very horrible and stupid play calling. I'm not talking like an armchair Sunday morning QB, but 4th down you have to mix it up, not run it up the middle over and over and over, when you cannot even get 2 yards on a first down. Just poor play calling.
Posted by: ILOVESB Location: Friendly South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 06:56 PM
You all are so very correct. Students at any other university would never think twice about behaving the way Notre Dame students did this Saturday. I'm tired of the excuse-making, throwing snowballs never starts out as good clean fun. What a display of arrogance. Perhaps we should outlaw all alcohol in St. Joseph County. And maybe we could make Notre Dame students wear patches on their clothing. They are such a danger to society, they need to be marked. Finally, I am proud of the Indiana State Police for utilizing five (yes, five) officers to roughly escort one (yes, one) complying student out of the stadium. Job well done. I hope he gets punished severely for his snowball-violence.
Posted by: Rick Location: Mishatucky on Nov 23, 2008 at 06:01 PM
I dont think they were acting in anger, I think they were auditioning for the position of Quarterback. ND's Next Top Quarterback.
Posted by: Julie on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:36 PM
I always love it when the illustrious Notre Dame shows it's true colors - drunkeness and arrogance. First ND gets beat and now this story.... ah, Priceless.
Posted by: Al on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Were any of them good enough to be quarterback?
Posted by: Slade Location: Mishawaka on Nov 23, 2008 at 04:12 PM
The fans threw snowballs at the team because they couldn't find any rocks!!
Posted by: True Fan on Nov 23, 2008 at 03:56 PM
A true fan would never throw a snow ball at any team. Now I have thrown a few verbal assualts at the coaches. If those who were sent wayare season ticket holders, I would be glad to give that ticket to deserving kid who has never seen a ND game, let me know.
Posted by: My question is... Location: happyville on Nov 23, 2008 at 03:30 PM
It snowed several days before the game. Snow still in stadium. Lackluster team shows poor performance. Students throw snow existing in stands. Why is this ALL OVER the news??
Posted by: What is wrong with people? Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 03:29 PM
This has been all over the news in other cities and I saw it myself on Yahoo! news last night. This is embarrassing.
Posted by: Al Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 03:27 PM
"Kids will be kids"? Seriously? 18 and up is not a "kid". Why are the college students given the "kids" pass? They are adults. Very shameful and ridiculous. Maybe they should concentrate more on supporting their team and classmates, regardless of how good or bad, and less on getting drunk at the tailgates. Anyone wonder why the rest of the world hates Notre Dame? Look at this behavior from their "fans", students, and alum. Charlie is terrible. This team is terrible. Now the football fans complete the trifecta. Sad on so many levels.
Posted by: Pathetic on Nov 23, 2008 at 03:19 PM
The majority of Notre Dame kids are a bunch of whiny, self serving, selfish punks who can't accept responsibility for themselves. Oh and I forgot entitlement whores.. Gimmie gimmie gimmie. That's been my experience. It doesn't surprise me that they acted like 3rd graders..
Posted by: Jay Location: Elkhart on Nov 23, 2008 at 03:18 PM
This is why ND sucks . . . their fans are spoiled losers! ND is a joke! Their fans are idiots, and deserve to be fined for their behavior. Stupid cry babies!!!
Posted by: Steve-O on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:55 PM
I had complete faith in charlie weeser, but now i really think it is time to fire him. ryan burkhart is worthless, should never had been given a scholarship. brandon walker is worthless. the rest are world class athletes getting slammed by walkons & all state athletes. this is pathetic & ridiculous. start recruiting all america kickers. and give Montana a shot. Clause, like his brothers will not amount to anything. just a dud
Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:44 PM
It appears that Notre Dame hired a lame-duck athletic director and that he doesn't care about the students at all. He only cares about poltics along with the adminstration office. Kind of reminds me of Bush and Cheney but in religious insitution.
Posted by: steve on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:39 PM
To wow: would you rather the state police give the kids a Rodney King beat down? These troopers did what the school wanted them to do. To here: Charlies been here long enough and has his own recruits in place. Heck he did better with Willinghams kids...
Posted by: kelley on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:22 PM
This is a message for whomever is approving these postings. I have never used any vulgar language when stating MY OPINION and yet you refuse to post my reply to the snowball incident. Is it because I stated ND students SUCK? This is complete censorship and now I am sure you are most likely an ND alumn. YOU SUCK!!! This is the last time I will ever use your website for any news or watch WNDU on TV. I will also tell all my family and friends to boycott WNDU.
Posted by: Katie Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:01 PM
What does everyone expect to happen when you get hundreds of drunk college students crammed into a stadium filled with snow, watching a team that is playing like crap? I was at the game, my 1st ever, and witnessed all this going on. It was upsetting to see such disrespect towards our law enforcement officials. If the spoiled drunken brats wanted to hit each other, fine, but hitting other fans that dont get tickets dirt cheap or have mommys and daddys to buy for them is rediculous. It seems to me that the football team and the student section has lots in common...they are both pathetic!
Posted by: Nathan Location: Plymouth on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:57 PM
What is with you people and your "fire weis" chants? You are starting to sound like Al Davis. The kids he recruited need time to mature. You can't just bring a new coach in every 3-4 years. What a dumb way to run a team. Good thing you people aren't in charge! You're clueless about football if you are already calling for Weis's head.
Posted by: k Location: sb on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:49 PM
Cubs fans would never throw anything at their crappy team. No matter how bad they are, they deserve basic respect from their own "fans".
Posted by: kelley Location: south bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:47 PM
Notre Dame students should be ashamed of themselves! Throwing snow/ice balls 30-40 feet down from the stands could realy hurt someone. These unruly students were probably drunk and we know that they are immature little brats. Like I said before, these students SUCK!!!!
Posted by: Mike Location: Rochester on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:16 PM
I say keep the snow throwing fans. They seemed to be more accurate than Clausen!
Posted by: Donny Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:03 PM
I don't care what school it is you put that many people in a snowy stadium when your team is getting beat by such a bad team and the same thing is going to happen. Let's worry about the bigger problems. Go Bears
Posted by: Dan Location: south bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I thought Jimmy was the top recruited QB in the country? He still sucks after 2 years. i Love how Notre Dame thinks they invented football and get pounded every week,even when they try to schedule teams that havent had a winning season in years they still find a way to lose. LOL! ND fans are morons,they have 1 good season and all of a sudden it's "Return to Glory" after 1 year! hahaha! The best one this year has to be ND beating Michigan (who had the worst season in thier entire history of football this year!)dumping the cooler of Gatorade on Weiss like they had just won the National Championship. LOL! that shows you how out of touch ND players are.
Posted by: Fire Weis Location: Elkhart on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:30 PM
LMAO Freddy, I agree. Notre Dame will continue to be the laughing stock of football as long as Weis is there. We alos have a lot of soph starting which could be an excuse if they did not all recieve a lot of playing time last year. There is no excuse for this season. Top 5 classes done mean anything with poor coaching
Posted by: Dave Location: Koontz Lake on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Should of Just Called the Game and Empty the Stadium of Everyone!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:14 PM
they shouldve been throwing eggs
Posted by: Rabid Irish Fan Location: Standing Tall on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Scott...Kevin White, he left Notre Dame in June. Anonymous, there is no way you can really belive that any "realistic" person expected the Irish to lose this game, give it up. I fully expected them to whip 'Cuse and then get beaten against USC. It was pathetic on the field and off of it.
Posted by: Randy Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM
This made one of stories today? Kids will be kids, yes even at Notre Dame.
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM
The Notre Dame Students paid as much attention to the Loud Speaker twice telling them to stop throwing snow balls as our societies laws for under age drinking and use of drugs. Does anyone see any connection? If the students are corrected in any way their parents will hire lawyers protect their little darlings.
Posted by: here in Location: south bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:46 AM
people need to understand it's not charlies fault. he is working with what notre dame left him in the willingham-o'learly fiasco.... it takes time for the recruits to mature... look at how many freshman they are starting..hence floyd setting all the freshman records. come on in all the willingham-O'leary fiasco...what blue chip player could trust and believe in N.D..? Look at the recruit class coming in, N.D. is gonna have another top 5 class... for the 2nd year straight. but it takes some time for players to develop. this years freshman class is truely weiss' measuring stick. I say give him 2 more years then if the program is clicking on all cylinders then ax him!!!!!
Posted by: Lynda Location: Niles on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Notre Dame fans are BIG babies!! Boohoo boohoo except you don't have a coach....
Posted by: M Location: sb on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Scott I believ Kevin White has been gone and the new name slips my mind right now. It was a big disappointment but no one needs injuries from ice balls. Should take your frustrations out on campus with a good game of touch football in the snow.Also I feel for the kicker,Charlie can we get some help from the Soccer team? Go Irish lets end the season by beating USC! I can dream can't I?
Posted by: PonyBoy Location: Way East on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Throwing snowballs at the team players would be a waste of time. None of them can catch anything.
Posted by: freddy Location: granger on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:48 AM
They should have escorted the ND team off the field for impersonating a football team
Posted by: Ronald Location: notre dame on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:45 AM
everyone needs to calm down. the students were just trying to have fun, because that game was BORING! dont try to tell the students they shou;d give up on the team because of a tough season. might i remind you the athletes are STUDENT ATHLETES and they play for us, not the alumni or crazy fans. its about the students, so let them have fun
Posted by: Wow on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM
ISP was "disappointed". How about you go arrest them and do your job. I guess you may miss some of the game. Why are they even at the game if they can't even defend themselves from snowballs?
Posted by: Homer Simpson Location: Mishawaka on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I love it! To think I used to have no use for ND students. Great job flinging those snow balls! A couple of good throws too. I'm sure Charlie was the target for most.Did any of them hit there target? Thanks for the loud boo's too!
Posted by: NirishD on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:35 AM
ND Players deserve to get the Snowballs thrown at 'em for another week of LACK LUSTER PERFORMANCE! The should should have thrown them at Charlie too!
Posted by: steve Location: plymouth on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:28 AM
the fans have a better arm then jimmy this is funny.
Posted by: Snow bunny Location: Osceola on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:20 AM
They should not have thrown snowballs, but I think they got their point across.
Posted by: DB Location: NE Indiana on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:19 AM
As a life long ND fan, I just have to say 1)Yesterday's game was humiliating, we need a new coach and 2)I am totally apalled and embarrassed by OUR fans' behavior! Thanks for giving all of the idiot ND haters more to talk about. You should be ashamed!!!
Posted by: Gerald Location: Mesa,Az. on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:11 AM
At least ND will not look like fools again in a bowl game.
Posted by: frosty on Nov 23, 2008 at 09:19 AM
We often hear ND kids are a different breed ? HUH, Classless entitled little babies. Throwing at cops, players, cameramen-all trying to do their job. You all stay spoiled you here and go whine/ protest about your boozing rights..K
Posted by: Disturbed One Location: Osceola on Nov 23, 2008 at 09:07 AM
Everyone at Notre Dame must have terrible arms and aim. How could you miss Charlie ?!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 23, 2008 at 09:04 AM
Hey Charlie: Quit taking all the crap from arrogant ND AND the stupid fans--flip them the bird and walk away smiling! The players have no intrinsic motivation to succeed. You can lead them down the field but you can't make them play to win.
Posted by: Richard Location: Elkhart on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:59 AM
This just shows the mentality of some so called fans,all they think of is the win and not how hard the boys played. You can blame it on the alum.Just win at any cost. The way ND got rid of its last two coachs speaks loads.
Posted by: slickshooter Location: mishawaka on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:46 AM
Wow reminds me of a NASCAR race I went to except they through beer cans.
Posted by: Mouse Location: Niles on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:27 AM
This kind of behavior just reinforces the negative stereotype of Notre Dame fans. I've been an Irish fan Over fifty years and I'm completely disgusted with this disregard for human dignity. Have the courtesy to stay in your caves the rest of your time at Notre Dame.
Posted by: craig Location: warsaw on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:24 AM
They thought it was open tryouts for quaterback position. Cause Jimmy you suck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Gary Location: Raleigh NC on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:15 AM
Classless, Just Classless, We are ND Did We All Go To Sleep And Forget What That Means, This Goes For The Team Also. SO Since You All Forgot Ill Sum It Up For You. Notre Dame Is, Pride, Tradition and Respect. Pride In The Fact That We Are A Top Class Academic Instantiation With Great Athletes. Tradition Going Back To Father Sorin Our Founder, Father Corby The Brave Civil War Chaplin Who Coined The Phrase Fighting Irish and of course Rockne and Our great Football Traditions. Finally Respect, Respect For Each Other, The Law,Our Opponents and above all Our Mother (Notre Dame) She is On The Dome For A Reason. I Hope This Clears Things Up For Those Who Acted Like Children In The Stands Today. We Will Rise Again and Go Irish.
Posted by: Randy Location: Goshen on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:13 AM
Great last line in the report. Police officials "say they tell me".
Posted by: Larry on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:08 AM
Where are are the do-gooders who protected these rotten students when they thought the police were being to hard on these poor babies all season? You people must be embarassed now.
Posted by: Matt Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:05 AM
You People need to grow up. This isn't elementary school.
Posted by: Margaret Location: South Bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:42 AM
Maybe there should be a breathalizer test done on all of the liquored up fans before they enter. The stadium is dry. Maybe they will have to stop the selling of booze on campus at the venues on game day.
Posted by: Jamie Location: Dowagiac on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:23 AM
Obviously even getting knocked in the head with snowballs didn't help knock some sense into the players heads that they suck and their own fans are starting to turn on them. You would think that kind of booing would turn on the little light in their heads that say "Hey our fans are unhappy, maybe I should put more effort in!!??" As far as Jimmy Clawson having a silver spoon in his mouth? He's just a white trash hick from the nearest trailor park that got "blessed" with a lucky ride. I have actually heard he wears around a fur coat!! Is it made of raccoon fur!!?? Get rid of Clawson, get rid of the butter fingers, and get a new kicker!!!! For the love of God!! Makes me feel like a moron to say I'm IRISH!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 23, 2008 at 06:21 AM
Classiest fans in college football. Too bad they didn't aim at Weis. Lord knows he's a big enough target. Even Claussen could have hit him.
Posted by: joe Location: mishawaka on Nov 23, 2008 at 06:19 AM
CRY BABIES N.D sucks and charlie boy does to "SORRY CHARLIE" but all of ya are slackers , that was good stuff
Posted by: kelly Location: south bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 06:09 AM
notre dame football sucks and this just shows that their fans do too. notre dame needs to do like the N.F.L. does and arrest the fans that were throwing the snowballs. idiots like that give college football a bad rep and they should be punished for it.
Posted by: common sense on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:34 AM
it is winter, people throw snowballs, lighten up, it is funny to see a cop get hit in the head with a snowball!!
Posted by: scott Location: middlebury on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:26 AM
start with kevin white and clean the athletic dept. out.. charlie has had them all fooled.. offensive guru, yea right. HE'S A LEGEND IN HIS OWN MIND!!!!!
Posted by: Leroy Location: SB on Nov 23, 2008 at 04:54 AM
Awe, they deserve it. Whoever is calling the plays deserves it. 4 down and 2, against a goal line defense and you decide (after such success throughout the season) to run it up the middle? Charlie just doesn't get it, it's not a trick play if you run it ALL the time.
Posted by: Frosty Location: south bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:23 AM
Maybe they were just trying to make some kind of play with a ball since the team didn't seem to be doing anything with the one they had!
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:06 AM
I don't think it was pathetic. They did what most realistic people expected them to do-lose.
Posted by: ORV Location: South bend on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:04 AM
never have i seen such a display at an ND game. no CLASS!!! These are young men playing their hearts out on the last home game of the year. If you were there and you were throwing snow balls at the players then dont ever put on an ND shirt again. Turn off your set and dont ever watch another ND game again. the rest of us fans dont need you on our team. If you're an ND student then transfer to USC. You are not an ND fan you're a jackass who should not have been at this great stadium. Even ND haters dont throw snowballs at the team. this is more than just about winning and losing, this is a seniors last game at home and this is the memory you leave him with. I expect a written apology by anyone who threw snowballs at these guys. in a one point game Id say you share in this loss bigtime. I'm not at all happy with the season and it falls on the coaches head. But this is not the way you thank a team for their effort. Dont call yourself an alumni until you make this right!
Posted by: Rabid Irish Fan Location: Standing Tall on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:00 AM
I was on the other side of the press box and saw this stupid behavior. If students want to pelt each other and have fun, I could care less. When you throw them from the top of the section down onto the field, give me a break. I saw Police, Cheerleaders, Band members and our own players being hit. Someone could have been hurt and it was out of line. Never have I seen Notre Dame fans behave in such a manner. If you don't like the way the program is headed, hit the program where it hurts, DON'T BUY TICKETS or watch the games. Taking aim at people on the field is not the way I want people to see our fans. For the love of Mike, we have a hard enough time getting respect, this is the last thing we need, on Senior Day of all days to boot.
Posted by: Jamie on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:47 AM
They should have aimed for Jimmy Claussen,maybe they would knock that silver spoon out of is mouth.I miss Brady !!Besides being nice eye candy he has the natural ability and he didn't have a QB coach since 7th grade !
Posted by: Michigan Fan Location: Edwardsburg MI on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Just one more reason for me to not like ND
Posted by: C Location: Michiana on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:23 AM
You stay classy, ND.
Posted by: ND fan-not JC fan on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Maybe they were trying to wake up the echoes?
Posted by: Ben Location: Mishawaka on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:10 AM
They deserve to be hit (the team). Not officers of the law or innocent bystanders. Pathetic game today boys

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