Soldier says Army is giving him the runaround on benefit
Soldier says Army is giving him the runaround on benefit Save Email Print
Posted: 5:53 PM Feb 19, 2008
Last Updated: 6:48 PM Feb 19, 2008
Reporter: Sarah Platt
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We all hear about supporting our troops before they leave for war and while they fight, but what happens when they come home?

One local soldier we talked to feels the Army has let him down, after he was injured during training last spring. Sergeant Ball of Leesburg has been in the Army for eight years. He served a year in Iraq in 2003. His unit has been re-deployed, but Ball can't go because of a shoulder injury.

Ball says since the injury last April, the military has denied him incapacitation pay he claims he's owed. In civilian terms, that's worker's compensation. Ball says he's owed more than 20-thousand dollars.

“This is the last resort here. I didn't want to get the media involved,” says Sergeant Ball. Ball says he and his family are getting desperate, stuck in between the military's red tape and paperwork.

Ball seriously injured his shoulder during training last April, but wasn't able to have surgery until December. Ball says that surgery only happened after dealing with unanswered calls and the military losing his paperwork.

“I'd ask, ‘Do you have my paperwork? Got it faxed down there,’” says Ball. “And she says 'Oh yeah, we got it somewhere, we'll find it...,” Ball explains in frustration.

In that time, Ball says he was supposed to start getting incapacitation pay because he wasn't able to work due to his injuries. Ten months later he's still waiting for that pay. “I’ve called the VA, called the Legion, everything I can think of to think of to find out what that paperwork is. If it's a matter of me going out and getting the paperwork to pay me the pay that I am owed to take care of family and pay my bills, that's fine. I just want to know what it is! And nobody can tell me what it is and that's where we stand now,” explains Ball.

The situation has left Ball, his wife, and three young children struggling to pay bills. “My mom got me groceries last night, paid my car payment,” explains Brenda in tears. “We just don't get things.”

Brenda ball is angry. She says her husband is getting the runaround after sacrificing and serving his country at war. “There's no reason why it shouldn't be taken care of. Everything that he's done, it's what you would expect to be given back,” adds Brenda.

Right after his shoulder injury, Ball received worker's comp through his job in the RV industry. However, that pay ended after about four months.

This Friday, Ball has another doctor's appointment. His doctor may clear him to go back to work. But if he's not cleared he must follow the doctor's order and stay home or he would risk any claim he has with the Army.

Newscenter 16 spoke with an Indiana National Guard spokesperson several times on Tuesday.
Lieutenant Colonel Deedra Thombleson says they're missing paperwork and admits there might be a "breakdown" of communication somewhere.

After phone calls from Newscenter 16, Tombleson says she wants to get this taken care of.

Meantime, late Tuesday afternoon, Sergeant Ball tells Newscenter 16 that he did get a phone call and is being assured that his issue will get addressed.

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Posted by: ssgt jeffrey squires Location: charlotte nc on Apr 6, 2009 at 11:15 PM
hi, im going through that now, i was injured 12-5-2008 traning to go back to iraq for my second tour when i injured my ankle, now it 4-7-2009 and im struggling to get answers myself, i just received my mri that i need 3 months ago 2 days ago. my wife and three kids are about to loose erverything we have,my civilian job want let me come back and my wife cant support us all i dont know hat to do. ive emailed the congress, senate and nothing just the run around!!! we are living on prayer at this point!!

Posted by: Zarin Moore Location: Clarksville, TN on Mar 5, 2009 at 05:54 PM
I also have been searching for my "Lost" Military medical records for about 5 years now. Though Not injured in direct combat, i also was injured in Iraq. The military has been giving soldiers requesting Med.records for ages. I wonder what will actually be done to assist us.

Posted by: Andranae Location: mendota,IL on Dec 1, 2008 at 03:49 PM
I think it's utterly ridiculous to treat our soldiers who go off to war not knowing exactly whats going to happen, to be treated like crap. The recruitors always say you'll get benefits and such, but when the soldiers get back they get little to nothing. It's sickning to think of people risking their lives to protect this country and we can't help them with their needs when they get back. It's a whole bunch of bull!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: charles whittington Location: ft.bliss,tx on Aug 11, 2008 at 06:10 PM
the unit here is doing similar stuff to me as you. i was injuried over in iraq 4 times, and was medavac from iraq to germany, than back to my duty station here at ft.bliss in el paso,tx. my injuries are an amputation im missing half of my finger on my right hand, both of my knees are damaged and have torn legiments. every disc in my back is torn and damaged except two,a and some disc in my neck are damaged. I have ptsd and depression, and last year i was involved in a car accident and was accused of drinking and driving, but i left a military event that was held by the wounded warrior battlion here at ft.bliss and after the accident they told me im not allowed to get seen for my depression or my ptsd and im being charged thru the civilan courts right now and im being charged from the military too, and the army says they always look out for their own, well all ive seen is the army screwing over soldiers left and right so they dont have to take care of them. im not the only soldier here.

Posted by: Dee Location: Angola on May 20, 2008 at 02:08 PM
I knew Phil, before he went the first time to the war, He isn't a scammer or a con artist. His wife is right. He is a good man. I know a few others who the national guard has let down when it comes to medical. Hey Phil This white witch supports ya!! Good luck.

Posted by: Brenda Location: Leesburg on Apr 12, 2008 at 04:26 PM
A few last comments: To all that have bashed my husband u should be thanking him for your ability to even get on this website and do so. He and his platoon were some of the first soldiers to be deployed to Iraq, if they were not there then would you have the freedom of sitting in your living room bashing he and our family. No you may not. Did u ever think of that. Also did you consider that his platoon is on their second deployment right now, if they were not would you have your freedom? He would be there with them if the medical branch had done their jobs, and my children and I would have no husband or daddy. Has that fact even crossed your unemotional minds? U all have no compassion, u should think before you open your mouth, that is a lesson everyone should think about. It is easy for u to sit behind your comp and bash away, but u don't know all the facts. I would love for you idiots 2 know all the facts and proof. Look us up we'll show u everything. If not shutup & enjoy ur freedom.

Posted by: Brenda Location: Leesaburg on Apr 12, 2008 at 04:09 PM
My name is Brenda Ball. Sgt Ball is my husband,and I have a few comments for all u idiots who think that you know our life story after watching a five min interview. First of all we did file all the proper paperwork, and for your info it took the national guard 2 months after his injury to file his lod. It was only filed after personal calls to medical that we made ourselves. You may call it whatever you want but his chain of command failed him and they continue to do the same to this day. For your info also the way that the figure they owe to us is figured by the amount of money that he would of made from his civilian job. That right he works hard and would have had that income had he not been injured, so they do owe us that amount. That is the policy in place by the national guard not just a figure we pulled out of our rear ends. Unlike all of your comments. Just because he is not ARMY does not matter. If not for this injury, he would b overseas right now fighting for your freedom.

Posted by: ACTIVE DUTY Location: IN on Mar 24, 2008 at 11:56 AM
For your information Soldier 2, I (RAKKASAN MAN) was in the National Gaurds for 9yrs before going active duty.

Posted by: Soldier 2 Location: FW on Mar 19, 2008 at 01:47 AM
I am totally amazed at some of the comments on here. This soldier did not give his life away. He answered the call when his country needed him, just like millions of others have done for this country. Rakkasan man, why don't you join the National (Guards) as you call it and see if you like the term "weekend warrior?" I have been on active duty and a proud member of the National Guard. I don't think your stupid because I too used to think the same sterotypes about NG soldiers. That was before I became one. It's pretty apparent that the Senior Leaders of this country believe that the National Guard is a ready, reliable, and relevant force to carry out national/state objectives. The name tape says, U.S. Army. Soldiers are soldiers and given the proper training will execute missions successfully. SGT Ball knows what happened here and this is his side of it. He wrote a statement and then tried to retract it. It's unfortunate that his family has to suffer because of it too!

Posted by: Heather Location: Warsaw on Mar 3, 2008 at 02:08 PM
What is up with some of you people?This man gave his life away to the military to defend us his country men,and to fight and die for it!If the man was injured he is entitled to some help period.It is pretty sad nothing was done until he contacted a news channel.I have no faith in the military helping out their own.My father passed away and when I had called to find out about burial benefits,it was like hitting a brick wall.No one returned calls I called several times,I also went in myself to talk to them personally.I also wanted them to do taps for his burial and no one not a single person cared to get a hold of any of us.He deserves the help and hopefully he gets it.For the rest of you asses wait until you get hurt and get this same treatment,maybe you would do us a service by dropping out of the military.I want someone that stands up for the rights of others,and protecting others.Not people that turn on the people you are sworn to protect.

Posted by: Rich Location: Niles on Feb 27, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Deadbeat

Posted by: Military Member Location: Indiana on Feb 27, 2008 at 09:23 AM
Take note People! It seems the majority of people bashing SGT Ball are the same people still serving this great Country! Some of us have even seen him in action. He is pretty poor at that! He admitted collecting workmans comp through the RV Industry, so why is the military at fault? He claimed the injury occured in April, read below, there was no drill in april. That posting was made by a member of his unit with whom I work with! I have served in the military for over 10 years, both Active Army and National Guard, the bottom line is there is a chain of command in place for a purpose. No where in that chain of command is the media! SGT Ball was wrong to get the media involved and should pay the price with UCMJ action! Get a life Ball, McDonalds is always highering! Flipping a Big Mac shouldn't hurt too much! You would do the Military a great justice to disappear.

Posted by: yadayadayada Location: USA on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:46 PM
there was no drill in april for his unit. read the comment on Feb 25, 2008 at 02:49 PM.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:10 PM
you know all through this people have complained about sgt balls manor of getting something done. there acting like a bunch of spoiled little kids.the man has every right to service on his behalf. its a injury DUE TO SERVICE thats it .

Posted by: Dwayne Location: SB on Feb 26, 2008 at 10:05 PM
folks if a man and his family serve there country .then his country needs to put him and his family back together after his service.the service was behind the injury and they have the means to make it right so whats the problem with some of you people .

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 26, 2008 at 09:09 AM
I cannot believe the way people are bashing a man who served our country. This man cannot get what is owed to him after risking his life, yet we are giving money to illegal aliens who don't put anything into our country. We also give to very able bodied people who stay on welfare because they are too lazy to get a job. What a time we live in where we will give to people who give nothing before we give to men and women who serve. Seems to be the same story from alot of people, lost paperwork. Let's not act like children and nit pick about the branch he worked in and that he has a jersey on. Let's give him what he is owed. He chose this job and takes all the risks with it, let's pay him like he would get paid for at any other job. If we keep treating a fellow American like this when we give so much to the illegal alliens (like the one that hit the bus and killed our school children)we will be doing more than pressing 1 for English.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 25, 2008 at 08:06 PM
by he way you folks that are tic'ed at him if you follow all the proceedures and get a blank wall at all of them then where do expect him to go. and people are'nt just picking on your beloved army it's all the branches there all pulling the same crap so dont get your pantys in a bunch

Posted by: fromthegrave Location: fromthegrave on Feb 25, 2008 at 02:49 PM
WHAT IS INTERESTING IS WE DIDN’T HAVE DRILL IN APRIL OF 2007 FOR THE 1-293D INFANTRY. WE HAD A MUTA8 IN MARCH, SKIPPED APRIL, MUTA 8 IN MAY, 2 DRILLS IN JUNE, 3 WEEKS AT IN JULY/AUGUST, MUTA 6 IN SEPTEMBER, 2 WEEK AT IN OCTOBER, MUTA4 IN NOVEMBER, THEN MOBILIZED IN DECEMBER. TWO MUTAS ARE ONE FULL DRILL DAY. STATING THE FACTS, THAT’S ALL.

Please do not post in all caps. Thank you. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Dan Location: Indianapolis on Feb 25, 2008 at 09:46 AM
John, have you read my response about being medically discharged and spending time at Walter Reed and William Beaumount Army Medical Center? If you did then you would see that I have used my experience on this subject. The reason I brought up my family is b/c there are over 40 years of dealing with the military via retirements, simple end of service or medical discharges. I'm not saying that I agree with how Sgt Ball went about getting the attention/help he needed. I will say that unless you have been through the process of dealing with the military with an injury you really have no right to argue with someone that has or is going through it. I will say that I'm sorry for attacking one specific individual on this topic though. It was not right since there are multiple people that are responding that are not educated on this subject. I am no expert but from my experiences on the subject I can honestly say that the Army lacks integrity when soldiers are injured and need help.

Posted by: John Location: Kalamazoo on Feb 24, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Dan, it's obvious you don't know crap about the military since you are using your family's experience and not your own. That's like saying I know everything about cars since my dad was a mechanic and I've never turned a wrench in my life. As for the responses dying down, the story's old! This guy is a poor excuse of a soldier, let alone a leader. He has done the Army a favor by not deploying and leading soldiers into combat. You never see a police officer going on tv complaining about their benefits. And if he was just some guy working any other job, this wouldn't have been on tv. Just another poor attempt by the media and anti war fanatics to make a story and a quick buck at the expense of the military.

Posted by: Mitch Location: Mishawaka on Feb 24, 2008 at 09:24 PM
Holy run on sentences Dan. Take some remedial English classes, please.

Posted by: Dan Location: Indianapolis on Feb 24, 2008 at 05:43 AM
What is interesting is that the people that were arguing before have nothing to argue about b/c they have been proven wrong on numerous occasions.. I guess they could argue but the proof is in the puddin. That's aimed at you Karin Army Wife.. you obviously have you rebuttle and even if you did it would fall on deaf ears as the arguement at hand is 5-0 in favor of the disabled or injured. I guess that your husband and youself don't know everything about the miltiary... Imagine that.. By the way.. my father was in military over 20 years. Both of my brothers spent more than 8 years in.. So explain how you know more about the military than me?? Oh yeah.. Your silence speaks volumes for your rebuttle.. I hope that you have some ignorant response to this.. Thanks for playing.. :)

Posted by: ACTIVE DUTY Location: Mishawaka on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM
All i hear is a bunch of moaning. I have had back problems for the last 7 years and i have never had any trouble getting medical care. But the BIGGEST problem i see hear is that everyone that has had problems has been calling people or sending things by mail or fax, get off your lazy butts and drive the paperwork where it needs to go and have someone sign for it. I have never of so many people getting there paperwork lost... OH by the way if SGT Ball loves the ARMY and his COUNTRY so much why is he a weekend warrior and not on ACTIVE DUTY..... Looks like to me he doesnt love it that much. If he loves the ARMY so much why doesnt he drive the paperwork where it needs to go and make someone sign for it and that way he can get the medical attention he needs.. And if it was a injury that happened why he was at training with the National Guard why is he getting Workers comp for, sounds like a intergity issue to me, but He loves the ARMY. He needs to learn how to live the 7 ARMY VALUES....

Posted by: Mitch Location: Mishawaka on Feb 23, 2008 at 05:26 PM
I do hope this guy gets the health care promised. He seems to have pretty good range of motion now..why can't he get a job doing something different to take care of his family that would not require such a strain. As a dad you do what ever it takes no matter what. The RV and manufacured housing industry is in such a mess right now..he is taking such a gamble on wanting his job back. Seems like he has money to get what looks to be a fairly new colts jersey. Get out there and help your wife and kids man. Best of luck to you with the military mess.

Posted by: peach Location: leesburg, in. on Feb 23, 2008 at 03:45 AM
I'm Brenda's aunt. Phil is agood person, he takes care of his family. He love's his country. He is doing what is needed to get resolution to a problem that should of been taken care of a long time ago. the shoulder injury Phil has is very painful and even with surgery will still give him some pain. I have a simular injury. It hurt's alot. You all who judge him for wearing a colt's shirt are ... well, just stupid. Phil's parent's worked hard while Phil and his sistr Sara were growing up They still work long hard hour's. To set an example . Both Phil and Sara use that example in their own life's. Brenda is a hard working good mother to her 2 kid's and her stepdaughter,and her nieces are treated like her own kid's. Both Phil and Brenda would and have helped people in need when ever they were able, I'm very proud of both Phil and Brenda they are standing up to the Army for what is due them. Those who think they are wrong probley voted for Busch! Have a nice day all!

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 22, 2008 at 11:09 PM
IM glad its working out for him and his family

Posted by: Kat Location: Millersburg on Feb 22, 2008 at 08:57 PM
this is such a shame. reading all this crap make's me ill. i would just like to say there are lazy ****** out there that like to squeeze every penny out of the government while they sit on their butts and feel no remorse for it. and yeah we all have to pay for that! Phil is not one of those people or i WOULD NOT DEFEND HIM! i know he's not out 2 pull a fast one, sympathy, or a con. he's proud. and i could only imagine how frustrated with this situation he had to get to go to the media. and it's AMAISING to me that the matter is getting resolved before this story was even aired. think twice before finding nothing better to do than judge. just remember karma sucks and will stab you when your back is turned and when you least expect. spend a day in someone elses shoes, & get the BIG PICTURE before running your mouths. support your troops that fight for your way of life and freedom. like the freedom of speech ;D sit on high horses and preach all you want but i find holes in your stories to

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 22, 2008 at 04:24 PM
POP stand by your son he will need a lot of help even if he says he wants to do it his self.he will need his family more than ever now.

Posted by: Darrell Carr Location: Warsaw, Indiana on Feb 22, 2008 at 03:19 PM
I am Sgt. Phillip Ball's stepfather. My name is Darrell Carr. I would like to share with you how proud my wife and I are of Phillip and his family. Just like many soldiers today, they serve and protect our way of life each and every day. Phillip love's the army, believe it or not.He also loves his family. If Phillip had the chance, knowing him as I do, he would give his life for his country in a heart beat. It is easy for all of us to jump to assumptions when we don't have all of the facts. It is the nature of the beast in some of us, and my family understands. His wife does work and always has. She is a young mother of three, trying to provide for them. Secondly, Phillip took all of the necessary steps to get the surgery taken care of. It is not his fault that the army did not take care of it until December. And no, he dose not sit around waiting for the government to take care of him. I have not listed everything that he has done to take care of this. It would take to long.

Posted by: unknown Location: indiana on Feb 22, 2008 at 02:17 PM
what is interesting is we didn't have drill in April for the 293d INF. We had a MUTA8 in March, skipped April, and then resumed in May. Did he put in for an LOD during his training related injury?

Posted by: Amazed Location: SB on Feb 22, 2008 at 12:32 PM
It is such a shame to hear all this, but I am not surprized!! My husband has been trying to get his medical records for a year and a half!! We just keep sending out the same letter to a new location each time. He has health issues as well and we get nowhere!!!

Posted by: Military Brat Location: Indiana on Feb 22, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Active Duty and Military Wife I hope you never have a major health problem that is caused by military life. My mother was ACTIVE DUTY full time soldier in the Air Force. While carrying out her job there was a horrible accident and she has been sick sinve I was 2 years old. 27 years we have had to fight the VA and government to take care of her. She is unable to work because of the deterioation the accident has caused and they just recently addproved her disability. Remember this happened when she was a FULL TIME SOLDIER so don't tell me that the military takes care of their own just pray that you never have to try to get what you deserve.

Posted by: Dan Location: Indianapolis on Feb 22, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Just for a little taste of how bad it is Army Wife.. Read this.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701172.html

Posted by: John Location: Kalamazoo on Feb 22, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Whatever happen to ask what you can do for your country and not what it can do for you. Bottom line is this guy didn't follow UCMJ or the Chain of Command and go through the ANG Public Affairs Office. A soldier is a soldier 24/7 and his off duty conduct is a disgrace since he can't follow basic rules of chain of command. As far as his medical treatment,it is obvious that he is going through a civilian doctor since there is no Active Army bases in that state and the nearest treatment facility is at Great Lakes Naval Center in North Chicago, IL. I am active station in Michigan and my family and myself use civilian doctors for that same reason. As for the treatment and care of soldiers, military hospitals may not be the all time greatest, but it is the highly trained and skilled military doctors that save these soldiers lives regardless of the condition of the hospital. Many soldiers are treated daily in combat field hospitals in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. and those conditions are from great.

Posted by: Military Member Location: Indiana on Feb 22, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity and Personal Courage are the seven Army Values. If this injury occurred during a National Guard training exercise than why did SGT Ball claim Workmans Comp through his civilian employer? Sounds like an Integrity issue! Where is the sense of Duty? The unit knew for months that there was a pending deployment and if this injury occured in April why was it not fixed sooner, not waiting until your unit deploys later in the year! Great NCOs Lead by Example. Speaking of which, if SGT Ball were so squared away, why wasn't he neatly shaven and displaying some military bearing in the WNDU Video? There is a chain of command in place for a reason, it should have been utilized. If this cry for help from SGT Ball is an example of his NCO Leadership abilities, he has done his soldiers a great deed in missing this deployment! Thank you SGT Ball, your soldiers are much better off!

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 22, 2008 at 05:10 AM
active duty & army wife with your thinking i feel sorry for both of you but you will have to learn the hard way.

Posted by: Dan Location: Indianapolis on Feb 22, 2008 at 02:13 AM
I will not say that all injured soldiers are ignored. I never stated that. I said that is how my chain of command handled things. When I was at W.B.M.C. and Walter Reed they were in very poor condition. They weren't empty but where were they going to send injured soldiers? They aren't going to send them to a civilian hospital and even the Government said they were not suited to be handling patients effectively. My facts are correct. Have you ever been to either of these medical facilities? I highly doubt it or you wouldn't be defending them. The funds when I was in the Army were unlimited. That was straight from our Brigade Commanders mouth right before our deployment. Besides. The billions of dollars they are spending isn't chump change. I bet you don't have billions. I know that I sure don't. Conditions are still not up to the standard of Congress. I see from your response you haven't had to deal with an injury via the Army. If you had you would understand. You don't now.

Posted by: SARABALL Location: pierceton on Feb 22, 2008 at 02:02 AM
let me help sort some things out since i am personally involved with the situation..1st SGT Ball did follow the proper procedures and he did go through his chain of command. 2nd He is not looking for a handout nor sympathy. Honestly he could care less. 3rd The figures he has on the approx. $20,000 is a figure that the NG helped to decide. 4th the reason you might not understand the whole situation is because you watched an edited interview so naturally you wouldn't know the whole situation and could be confused on some issues. On that note, I will forgive some of the ignorance. And wow! would you know, before the interview even aired he already was receiving the information he needed to help finish the process. imagine that! Hmmm guess it really wasn't that fishy after all. Just a lack of someone doing what should have already been done. Full time or part time: a soldier is a soldier. They fight for you and me. Show some respect for that!

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:00 PM
you know with this article i have come to know just how brainwashed some people are as to the services given by the military personal AFTER release is .when your in yes they bend over backwards to keep you in good shape .after ward unless your a ranked officer you get next to nothing.and have to in most cases fight for that.when will people realize when your in YOU ARE EXPENDABLE when you get out your an expense.

Posted by: Army Wife Location: IN on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:14 PM
ummm no I wont watch what I say! So you are saying that ALL injured soldiers are ignored huh....So when you went to William Beaumount M.C. and Walter Reed to see these awful conditions as you say they were in, they must have been empty!! Since they ignore the injured!!! Because that IS what YOU said. And the funds aren't unlimited! Get your facts right Dan. If they were unlimited, they wouldn't be asking for more money from Bush would they..DUH!!

Posted by: ACTIVE DUTY Location: mishawaka on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:01 PM
I dont understand you people. SGT Ball volunteered to join the national guards. He knew he was part time. He is a NCO and a poor one at that for the simple reason is that you know as a NCO you dont go to the media without using your chain of command first. And if it was my claim and someone told me that yea they have my paperwork somewhere, you better believe i would be in a vehicle and i would be making a trip and hand deliver my paperwork and make someone sign for it cause you can do it. but he probably made a couple of phone calls and noone answered so he went to the media.. You dont do that as a NCO. I really want to know how he thinks the ARMY owes him 20,000 dollars and how in the world did he come up with that figure. Yes it is different funds that you get paid from if your ACTIVE DUTY compared to the NATIONAL GUARDS. ACTIVE DUTY is federally funded and NATIONAL GUARD is state funded. And for your information yes i have fought in combat fighting for everyones freedom. RAKKASAN

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:59 PM
Karin army wife you say that the army takes care of its own.6 mo. ago a good friend of mine died . the military discharged him for health problems . the VA said he had a sore throat.and he got so he could'nt breath . he had applyed for disability . his condition keep him from working for 3 yrs his disability went through 45 days before he died of cancer and he was regular army.so tell me how well they take care of there own.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:13 PM
thats right and just maybe this is a long term injury. for his service is he going to pay for it the rest of his life.

Posted by: Dan Location: Indianapolis on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:08 PM
Karin Army Wife... I would watch what you say. I was Active Duty in the Army and when I was injured they didn't do jack for me. I had to do everything myself. My "chain of command" was a joke. If you were injured you were ignored. So if you want to say that I'm "full of it" then that's fine but have you been through the situation? I did follow the regulations. I did what I was supposed to do and the ARMY wouldn't hold up their end of the deal. By the way. I have been to two Army Medical Centers. William Beaumount M.C. and Walter Reed. If ya haven't seen either then you have no idea about their conditions are really like. They are in sub-par conditions. Pretty bad for a Military that has had UNLIMITED FUNDS since 2001..

Posted by: fmr Location: MN on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:00 PM
WNDU, do you think there are articles, including this one, that should not include a comments section? I usually enjoy reading the stupid comments people post; however this is one article that should not have a comments section. This family is going through enough without a bunch of narrow minded, ignorant morons posting comments about someone they know absolutely nothing about. A person/family should not have to defend themselves against STUPID, THOUGHTLESS, BRAINLESS IDIOTS!!! A couple of people made comments about his jersey.....ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! Than there is a couple comments about not going through the media....WHAT PLANET DO YOU PEOPLE LIVE ON??!! Remember Walter Reed???? How do you think the "world" found out about the conditions at the hospital???? THE MEDIA!!!! You people are pathetic....you make the U.S. look bad.....

Posted by: John Location: Kalamazoo, MI on Feb 21, 2008 at 07:37 PM
There are many people in this country that are missing limbs that have FULL TIME productive jobs. There are plenty of jobs that a person can do with one arm. And I highly doubt that he is using his educational benifits, G.I. Bill, to better himself and get training for something that he can do. Instead he is playing BOO HOO my arm is hurt. There are may vets that are injured in some way that still live productive lives and can care for their families. And before you ask I know of a few myself!!! Talk a walk through your local VFW and at least 1/2 meet that criteria.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: IN on Feb 21, 2008 at 07:14 PM
Where does it say that he is seeing an ARMY doctor??? It doesn't!! And how did he get workmans comp if he hurt his shoulder during weekend training with NG??? Something fishy there. If it was previously injured not during NG time, then NO the National Gaurds are not going to pay for it. That's just like any other business or insurance. DUH!! We are not getting the whole story here by no means at all!!! The truth always comes out in the end, but I'm sure the media wont let us know about it if SGT BALL was in the wrong.

Posted by: king Location: In on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Hey if a soldier gets hurt in training and is told by an ARMY doctor not to work what is he supposed to do? Thats what happend here. He can't use his arm. What is he supposed to do? He's not one of the obviously more important ACTIVE ARMY. So he loses his civilian job. Gets a one weekend a month guard check. His wife works full time taking as much overtime as possible. But after 10 months the guys getting a little behind. I don't care if he's a dirtbag dishonorable soldier-which is not the case- If you are injured on NG time and are disabled because of it then you should get taken care of. Bottom line.

Posted by: anonymous Location: michigan on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:22 PM
Maybe his claim was denied for reasons he is not telling us. Maybe he is trying to pull a fast one and know is mad he is not winning. There are alot of men and women who get injured on the job and don't get the money they deserve, or they lie to get the money. Its all boo hoo for me, I can't work or don't want to work so I make it out to be someone elses fault.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:17 PM
karen i dont know anything do i well dear nothing in the military ha s changed sence the civil war the guys that fought there got the shaft and there still getting it today. and your an army wife ha well if your hubby go's or has been in active combat and not an officer you will soon be singing a diffrent tone .you may not see it right away but its comeing and DONT look for no help from the VA

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 05:49 PM
you know it seems most of the problem here is sgt ball is a week end warrior. well in combat you dont have time to worry about if the guy next to you a regular or week end warrior your to busy trying to stay alive .so you see the whole thing has to do with does a veteran have the right to GOOD health care for injurys do to service and dont have anything to do with his branch of service.

Posted by: king Location: In on Feb 21, 2008 at 05:44 PM
John- It doesn,t sound like he's getting even PART TIME benefits to me. And if your shoulders out, so is the rest or your arm. "Suck it up and drive on"? What do you expect him to do with ONE ARM? Sorry but I doubt that door greeter at Wall-mart pays enough to cover child care. I'm sure you would jepordize twenty thousand the government owed you, because thats the kind of moron you sound like. And Srg Ball is'nt giving the military a bad name. This is what he had to do to get the issue taken care of. I'm just sure no one in his chain of command knew of his injury, or hardship. If he were taken care of from the begining maybe he would be praising the ARMY on the media instead of seeking help there.

Posted by: KARIN ARMY WIFE Location: MISHAWAKA on Feb 21, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Hey Dewayne, guess what...things in the military have changed since you served our country during Vietnam!! So don't come on here like you know EVERYTHING!! Because if you do, then why don't you go get the job done for him, or better yet why isn't yours taken care of??? SGT Ball did you take the proper action when started having problems, like going through your chain of command first? And where do you come up with $20,000 that they owe you? You don't get the pay that active duty gets. Nor do you get the benefits that active duty gets.(medical-dental) You are National Gaurd...BIG difference there! And for you people saying that the army doesn't take care of their soldiers are so full of it!!! You watch too much T.V. The media isn't going to air all the good things the military is doing for us and our soldiers!! And if you don't like it GET OUT OF THE USA!! IF YOU CAN'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROUPS STAND IN FRONT OF THEM!!!! GO ARMY!!!!!

Posted by: melissa Location: warsaw on Feb 21, 2008 at 05:28 PM
wow!this is unbelievable u neh sayers are fricking ridiculus. i guess the story the media did on the family of the marine who was diagnosed with just a wart and died 18 mths later due to CANCER! should feel real bad about their marine's story too. u mr. nco are probably the same genius who lost Ball's paper work?

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:46 PM
son keep after fort wayne you will win.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 02:18 PM
john of kzoo who are you to speak of a nother mans honor. is your guilt showing thru.I also served almost 2yrs in VIET NAM and got out on a medical . i was with a spec op unit there.and have had to fight to get good help as well.even thou wounded i have to fight lost records, lost jobs,no or little sleep, and wanabe so& so that try to be little viet nam as a war. but guess what it dont work with me .if sgt ball got hurt on the ng clock part time or full time dont mean crap .and so many of those like you are talking from where you set.sgt ball your in for the hardest fight of your life but i know for a fact bennets gone and your capt. is working on your claim.as for the rest of you that think he's wrong you dont count so go away and find a life

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:47 PM
JOHN whats the dif if your a full time or part time soldier. your defending this country and what it stands for. also to you i bet if you and your family were in his place you would be singing somewhat of a diffrent tune.just because you went regular army dont look down your nose at part timers. by the way there jobs just as emportant as yours.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:38 PM
BROVO anonymus11:13

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:23 PM
sgt ball keep us informed.

Posted by: Get out and Vote Location: Indiana on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:07 PM
That's the military for you! That's exactly why I wouldn't dare fight for a country that I KNOW won't have my back. This country is not the greatest place on earth to live. Over taxed for one. Free speech my butt! Health care - ummm whats that??? Need I say more????

Posted by: Reasoning Location: Mishawaka on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Part timers don't get the same as Full timers, that is true across the board, whether your in the Army, or working a non life threatening job. Part timers don't get anything....Maybe you should try a different way...

Posted by: proud to be SGT Ball's sister Location: pierceton on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:49 PM
a few last things: it doesn't matter if it is army or national guard or whatever other titles you would like to name. Sgt Ball injured himself working and now he should be compensated. Brenda (his wife) does work all the time!! Yeah I got your back Brenda Kay!!! And for the lame comments about the jersey, the only thing I can say is: GO COLTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! We should all support our troops! Active or inactive. National Guard or Army. They all deserve the support from us. They are there for the american people and the UnitedStates! So I think it's only fair that the American people and the United States should be there for them!!!

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:27 PM
WELL FOLKS ......YA KNOW WHAT I CAN SEE A REPEAT OF A NOTHER TIME COMEING ON .its the VIET Nam era all over again .a man serveing in the military weather NG,or regular makes no dif you are fighting as brothers.now as brothers you are intitled to the same benefits. also if you look up or read the lists of service branches the NG is list WITH the other military units makeing them one. not state but equal with fed. so you whiners saying there state try again.and you military speaking against a brother you are the disgrace to your uniform not sgt ball.OH ya everyone comenting ask your self was he on NG time if so yes he is and should get help.

Posted by: John Location: Kalamazoo, MI on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:27 PM
YES I DID FIGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY...MORE THAN ONCE!!! And people dont want to enlist now days b/c they see people like this that give the military as a whole a bad name. Did anyone ever think that maybe he wasnt a honerable soldier and that is why they are giving him the run around??? Like NCO said...Karma...what goes around comes around and it sounds like he is getting his!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:13 AM
this is ridicolous to bash the sgt. did any of you go fight for our country ??? he was injured during trianing so it was on ng grounds so they owe him and too think this might be why people dont want to enlist anymore due to the way they see these soldiers be treated

Posted by: NCO Location: Indiana on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Karma is rough. I have personally witnessed this "NCO" in action and seen they way he took care of the soldiers under him. It was the most disgusting example of leadership I have ever seen. I guess the next time he has a soldier under him he should think a little more about what comes around goes around. "Umbelical Cord" ring a bell there SGT?

Posted by: John Location: Kalamazoo, MI on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:52 AM
What part of PART-TIME soldier dont you understand??? If he wanted FULL-TIME benefits then he should have joined as a full time soldier. If you only want to be a part time solder that is what benefits you will get. SGT. Ball...suck it up and drive on!!! This is a N.G. issue not and Army issue. The ARMY doesnt owe you ANYTHING!!! The N.G. is the one that owes you. If I was your chain of command...I would give you medical attention and give you the boot for all the negative publicity and discredit to the uniform you have caused. As a SGT you know to handle everything at the lowest level possible. And I would like to see where is says MEDIA in your chain of command. We have soldiers losing eyes...limbs...and even their lives and you want to compain about a shoulder injury. I hope you do the N.G. and Army a favor and get out. How can you lead soldiers into combat if you cant even abide by military regulations?!?!

Posted by: Danielle Location: Mattawan, MI on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:39 AM
I dont blame him for fighting for what is right. But before you go to the media you should atleast know that you arent in the Army...you are in the National Gaurd...two different things!!! I dont know if it was SGT Ball or WNDU but before you start throwing the ARMY name around you should get your facts straight. The subject should read...Soldier says NATIONAL GAURD is giving him the runaround on benefit!!! If you are going to point fingers and place blame at least point and blame the right people!!!

Posted by: Dan Location: Indianapolis on Feb 21, 2008 at 07:23 AM
Active Duty.. I'm curious on what ways around this you are speaking of. I was active duty stationed at Ft Bliss in El Paso, Texas. I had to get a Congressional Investigation started to get proper treatment (just to get an MRI) when I was injured. My unit wouldn't let me even go see a doctor. I understand your point about the difference between the N.G. and Active Duty but being active doesn't mean all that much. After I had my shoulder surgery I wasn't permitted to work for a year by my doctor. I had extensive rehab and unless you have been through it you can't say that you would go against what the doctor says. Just my opinion. I'm also wondering if you are a recruiter as it says you are in Mishawaka. If so then make sure to let your enlistees know that if they are injured they will get poor medical treatment. If you need an example. Walter Reed..

Posted by: RC Location: ELKHART on Feb 21, 2008 at 07:22 AM
Okay for one, he has been serving the country for 8 years, and is owed more than twenty thousand dollars, would you let that go? As far as his wife working, maybe she doesn't...my husband works and i stay at home with my two young children, we are living just fine. But- when my husband needed surgery and was off work for awhile , i got a temp. job. The colts jersery may have been a gift. who knows...but what i do know is he has a hole in his jeans, so it's not like he's gonig out of his way to look nice..lol. He deserves his money. Hopefully this man will be released to go back to work soon.

Posted by: proud to be SGT Ball's Sister Location: pierceton on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:34 AM
Wow!First of all let me introduce myself: Sara Ball, SGT Ball's awesome sister! Now, let me educate some of the uneducated. SGT Ball by no means is looking for sympathy, only what is rightfully owed to him. And if you think he is only sitting around complaining and whining that he is going through hardships and doing nothing about it to help his family through this you are completely uninformed. He has been doing nothing but trying to make sure his family is adequately taking care of as well as keeping his integrity and pride by fighting for what he should be. Just like when he went to Iraq and fought for what he knew he should like his, mine and YOUR freedom. He knew it was right so that is what he did. How dare you people say anything negative?! Did you him to swallow his pride when he left his family and life to fight for your freedom and for your children and grandchildren's? Or when he was training in preperation to go again and hurt his arm? Have some respect! Love ya Phil!

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:04 AM
active duty just answer me one thing if your discharged from the national guard anget out for medical reasons . do you go to the VA. and dont the same funds for your care also come from the goverment.thru your taxes and mine and for that matter sgt balls and his familys. so the care is payed out of the same poke is'nt it.and yes if your in the military ya they want to keep you in as long as posible but you are expendable. when your out by dicharge they dont give a *****.you go to the VA . there people are getting bonuses to not give you disabilitys .

Posted by: co-worker Location: Goshen on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:18 AM
I've worked with Brenda since August (she worked in another building at the same place before that) and she is one of the hardest workers we have. When we're busy she's the first one to volunteer to come in early or stay late (often working 50-60 hours a week), so that she could provide for her family. They had to fight for eight months to even get his surgery. Financially, let's think this through. The average RV production job tends to pay around $40,000/year (give or take). What would your financial situation look like if you lost $3000 every month? How long would you be able to continue paying bills? Those who think he should go back to work against doctor's orders simply don't understand how factories operate. I guarantee that he would not be ALLOWED to go back to work until his doctor releases him. And going to work anywhere else would barely pay for childcare. Seriously, think before you react. You learned all you need to know to judge them from a two-minute video?

Posted by: ACTIVE DUTY Location: MISHAWAKA on Feb 20, 2008 at 11:00 PM
lets get something straight first of all the National Guard is different from the Active Duty. The National guard is state funded and the Active Duty is federally funded. So if you get hurt in the National Guard the state has to pay for the injuries. So dont be complaining about the federal government you need to be complaining to the state government. Its people like all of you that thinks the National Guard and the Active Duty are the same thing and they are not even close to being the same thing. So when you want to complain to someone, make sure you are complaining to the right people or in this case to the right government. And teh reason i know this is because i was in the National Guard for 9 years and now i am Active duty ARMY. And if my family was hurting i know i would be back to work now and not worrying about what the doctor is saying because you can get around that. Sounds like to me the SGT BAll wants everyone to help him but hes not helping hisself.. Thank You...........

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 20, 2008 at 10:19 PM
melissa and kat the sgt is going to need all the help he can get and you two ladys are just the kind he will need. his family is going to need a lot of help to get through this in one peace. I know as my fight with the VA cost me 2 marrages and my kids dont let him give up and dont let his wife say the hell with the relationship.

Posted by: Danielle Location: Mattawan, MI on Feb 20, 2008 at 10:03 PM
How many people does it take to raise 3 kids?? I have 3 of my own and my husband is in the Army full time. He has been to Iraq 3 times and goes to schools what seems like all the time. So dont sit there and tell me about a FULL TIME JOB!!! Life is about choices...some are good choices we make some not so good. Him going to the media in my opinion wasnt a good one. Like I said in my first post...I HOPE HE GETS THIS TAKEN CARE OF!!! I just think he went about it all wrong...like so many others think too. I dont care what he spends his money on. But her job cant be that good if her mom is buying food and making car payments!!! Just a thought!!! Just like any other job...they Army takes care of those that do a good job for the Army...sounds like the Army is speaking loud and clear on this one!!! GO ARMY!!! P.S. My husband was hurt while in Iraq...and he takes care of the Army...so yes the Army took care of him no problem!!!

Posted by: melissa Location: warsaw on Feb 20, 2008 at 08:04 PM
just so those of you have the record straight i'm sgt.ball's aunt and i kno for a fact the jersey was a gift, his wife works very hard and when he could work he worked very hard.How dare you suggest he is just wanting to live off the gov. unlike some who don't serve their country and DO live off the gov for some oh i don't kno LAZY reasons and you kno who you are.until u walk a mile in their shoe you need not judge my nephew and his wife.and maybe think about who your gov. is for? the man or the men and women of the armed forces who are fighting to give you your right to put your opinion on this comment board?

Posted by: Kat Location: Millersburg on Feb 20, 2008 at 07:34 PM
i would like everyone to know i know for a fact that he has had Colts jerseys for YEARS. most bought for him as gifts for christ sake. this judgement is outrageous. his wife IS working, and has a GOOD paying job... and they still can not make ends meet! i know for a fact that their whole family HAS been trying to help them out, and has had to. their 3 kids barely had a christmas this last year. only with the love and generosity of the family are they getting anywhere. maybee you should try to look past your snap judgements to the truth. and for once, and i can not believe i'm saying this, the media hit it right on the nose. i feel for him and his wife. and god only know's how many more are out there just like him. and it is a shame that he HAD to take it to the media. and for the millitary to have a cow and get right on calling him and telling him to be told that the matter would be taken care of and asked what they could do for him and his family... then go no further with the media.

Posted by: Kat Location: Millersburg on Feb 20, 2008 at 07:25 PM
this is one of my friends nephews and one of my Xs dear friends from way back. i knew him and Brenda were having trouble... but this is rediclous!!! so this is how our government... our country repays our troops for protecting and serving us and our way of life?! what a load of CRAP!

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 20, 2008 at 06:51 PM
thank you reader the whiners must not be able to think that far ahead.

Posted by: Army Mom Location: Indiana on Feb 20, 2008 at 06:41 PM
Wow!! As the Mom of a soldier in Iraq I was amazed and hurt by some of these comments. I work with Seargent Ball's mom and KNOW how hard this battle since April to get his much needed surgery and pay has been. Phillip has fought in a war for our freedom and now our government is giving him nothing but runaround. Phillip's family has contacted his unit, congressman and even the White House with nothing but excuses and no satisfaction. This family did exactly as they needed to, tell anyone who will listen, maybe someone will do something. This is not a slap to the Army or his unit, just a plea for some help. If not for Brenda and Phillip's families, this young family would be on the streets by now. What a way for us to treat our American heroes. I understand paperwork glitches, but not for ten months. Enough is enough. I am proud to be a friend of this family and what they have done. My support is behind you all 100%. Good luck, I believe something good will come of this for you.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 20, 2008 at 06:29 PM
Danielle one thing id like to ask you if you know for a fact sgt ball purchased that jersey or did his parents or his wifes parent or an aunt or maybe an uncle buy it for him. before you worry about a jersey why dont you worry about his family. oh and to the coment on why his wife dont work ????? id say with 3 kids that little lady has a full time job.and so does sgt trying to correct the military blunders one after another

Posted by: Active Marine Location: Indiana on Feb 20, 2008 at 04:33 PM
Ok here is what needs to be done, Sgt. Ball you need to look at your family and take care of them and stop waiting for what is owed to you. If you feel well enough to go back to work, get off your butt and get back to work!! You have a wife and 3 children who need help now and you are their Knight in Shining Armour so make it happen. Fight for what is owed to you for the time you have missed while working and getting your family taken care of. If you never get the money owed.. so what. Are you willing to watch your children suffer all because you don't want to lose out on more of what is owed? Have some honor, swallow your pride and take care of your family.

Posted by: reader on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:31 PM
And none of you thought that maybe the shirt was a gift....

Posted by: Military Wife Location: Indiana on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:31 PM
(continued) SGT Ball has gone through the right steps for his injury. It is VERY unfortunate that he and his family has had to endure this hardship. Unfortunatly, everyone on staff is not always the most trained, or efficient, or organized as we would like to see them,this can happen with civilian employers just the same. It is really too bad that SGT BALL had to bring his problem to the public to get his situation resolved. Hopefully it will draw attention to those that have failed in their responsibility and most importantly he can receive the medical attention and financial compensation entitled to him. I wish SGT BAll and his family the best of luck resolving this. I am confidant he is NOT trying to live off the government, just trying to support his family. I am confidant that just as in 2002, had he been cleared, he would be preparing to deploy back to Iraq, to defend yours and mine country, without hesitation. Our prayers are with you and your family SGT BALL, HOOHAH!

Posted by: Military Wife Location: Indiana on Feb 20, 2008 at 02:18 PM
As the wife of a soldier I know first hand how the benefits of the military can be hard to work with. However, I will never complain about the benefits I receive. No civilian employer could offer the insurance benefits that I and my family receive. The key is to go through the right steps to get them. (As with any insurance company) One thing to consider, is SGT Ball may have had Short Term Disability Coverage with the RV factory which for some people, can be confusing with terms like STD, FMLA, and Workman's Comp, so that may have just been a mistake. Secondly, when a doctor tells you not to work, you don't work, or any injury that may occur or further injury would otherwise be considered AMA (against medical advice) and not paid by insurance. Surgery is an expensive procedure. If it is not a medical emergency, would you put yourself in that type of debt not knowing if you would be able to recoup that? Not paying hospital bills, can cause havoc on your credit report. (continued)

Posted by: Danielle Location: Mattawan, MI on Feb 20, 2008 at 01:12 PM
Military Member..I agree 100% with what you said. Sounds like someone is trying to live off of the government...I thought that same thing when I first read the article. Outraged...I agree that we all are entitled to get nice things once in awhile. But if you cant afford to pay your bills...what in the world would justify you buying a $50.00 jersey??? I would put that money towards food or bills. But then again I'm not the one trying to live off the system.

Posted by: outraged Location: Sb on Feb 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM
To Military Memeber, did you ever stop and thnk that maybe the jersey was a gift? Even if it wasn't aren't we all entitled to by something nice for ourselves everyonce and awhile? Espically after everything he's been through. Do us all a favor and think before you speak next time!

Posted by: Mary on Feb 20, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Agreed BigRedEvil. My husband made 4 sets of EVERYTHING that had his name on it, including medical records. Some of the clerks didn't want him to have it to copy, but he set them straight about whos records they were pretty quick. My step son is in Iraq, and really loves being able to call his dad to get the truth, because the Army won't tell you all of it.

Posted by: Jane Location: Portage, IN on Feb 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM
I would like to add my two cents in, where the miltary and their endless paperwork issues. My Ex-husband just retired Air Force 1 yr ago. He is the person responsible for the health insurance for our children. We have been divorced for 8yrs. Heres my beef. The miltary insurance gives us so much crap covering the boys I am thankful that I don't have sick children that need constant care. I can never get information when they don't cover something I get that they don't have the paper work. That my son is in the north region and the ex lives in the west region. that they haven't gotten the paperwork. Gee how long does it take to send papers from AZ to IN? like I said we have been divorced 8yrs!! and we just resent information when the ex retired last yr. I mybe simple minded in thinking this but isn't the miltary nationwide? and why don't the exsiting reagions communicate a little better.

Posted by: I can read Location: can you? on Feb 20, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Hey anonymous...where in this article does it say the wife isnt working? Supporting 3 children and 2 adults on one income is nearly impossible.

Posted by: Scottie Location: Osceola on Feb 20, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Sgt. Ball is not alone in his fight with the VA. The VA doesn't take care of the vets like they should. My partner can longer work due to what she was exposed to in the Desert Storm and other places. We deal with the VA everyday to get her help and it's truely a fight to get them to do anything to help her. They just want to give her more drugs just because it might help? These people protect our freedom and pay a heavy price physically and emotionally. Enough is enough. Take care of our vets because they have taken care of us so we can sleep at night. People who want national health care should look at how the VA works because national health care will work the same way. Bless those who have served and those who are serving now!

Posted by: Military Member Location: Indiana on Feb 20, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Amazing! Can't afford to pay your bills but you can afford a Colts jersey! The injury occured in April and you wait until your unit Deploys to have surgery in December. How do you justify workman's comp through your civilian employer if this was a military injury? Sounds like an injustice of another individual trying to take advantage of the system! There are channels in place such as the Inspector General instead of the media to solve these problems. Where is your loyality to your Unit and Soldiers? You are an NCO, a leader of soldiers; is this what you would expect out of one of your Privates. I would guess not! Do the military a favor and get out!

Posted by: Dave T Location: New Orleans on Feb 20, 2008 at 09:44 AM
You people that are telling Sgt Ball to get another job just don't get it! If he goes against the doctor's orders he will no be paid by the military. I spent 4 years in the USAF and the AF forgot about me being on med-hold for 9 weeks while in training...lost my paperwork. This kind of thing happens all too often in our military and it is so wrong to to treat our vets in this manner. This has been going on since Nam and should be put to a stop. This is the reason so many of our vets end up homeless. Just think how many of you would be upset if the civilian comp services, doctor's offices, insurance co. worked this way. Time to step up to the plate people and support our vets...ALL of our vets! Sgt. Ball I for one am indebted to you for your service. Ignore the holier than though, thay have no idea. Hang in there!

Posted by: BigRedEvil Location: Death Valley on Feb 20, 2008 at 09:21 AM
I am a disabled Veteran. I (and this is not a knock on Sgt. ball) had the forsight to request copies of EVEYTHING put into my Medical Jacket, as it was put in. He/you have the right to see you mediacl file at anytime. So when push came to shove with me..... I had back up. Plus I did the same with my Srvice Duty Jacket/Folder. Everything the military put in there, I have a copy of. Of course hindsight is always 20/20.

Posted by: Dan Location: Indianapolis on Feb 20, 2008 at 08:46 AM
I feel your pain. I tore my rotator cuff, labrum, and capsula in Iraq. I did get med boarded out after I got back from serving my tour but I have been fighting the VA since 2004. I had the SB VA Rep help me (when I lived up there) and it was pretty much me versus the VA. I'm still fighting 5 years later and it doesn't look like their is an end in sight. Good Luck Sarge..

Posted by: Army Mom Location: In on Feb 20, 2008 at 08:13 AM
This is just another example of the lies the Army tells our Soldiers. My son served in Iraq and has for the past 2 years trying to get his Montgomery GI Bill monies. Same old song and dance, we need this paperwork, we lost this paperwork. And contacting our congressman was a joke. The Army does not take care of it's own. My son as wanted to just give it up and forget the hassle but that's just what the Army hopes you will do so SGT don't you give up either and Good Luck you are going to need it. As for John's comment it doesn't matter if he had another job these are benefits he is entitled to and should receive regardless.

Posted by: DB Location: LaPorte on Feb 20, 2008 at 07:50 AM
How can you get worker's comp when it wasn't injured at work? Sounds a little fishy to me. I agree, being from a military family that the red tape is ridiculous, but there are a lot of unanswered questions here. I'm suprised that he is not complaining about the hospital bills not being paid. Who paid for those? If not the military, then who? Lots of questions, not much for answers. Good luck.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Indiana on Feb 20, 2008 at 05:58 AM
I wonder why the wife is not working?

Posted by: sandra Location: warsaw on Feb 20, 2008 at 04:50 AM
at least we know serving the country is not what they say it is. now the truth comes out you can bet if you put your life on the line they don't care if you make it or not as long as they get to play on it. My father was in vietnam and korean war and he still has never recieved anything from the time that he put his life on the line now we all know. don't stop until you get what you deserve and make them stand up to all of the hipe that enlisting is the best thing that you can do. Be all that you can be that works only for the ones that make money from it but it does not work for the one that put thier lives on the line.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 19, 2008 at 11:18 PM
john i wish you the best but hope you never get to have to depend on the VA or YOU WILL SING A DIFRENT TUNE.as far as discrediting his unit he did'nt do that they did it there self.and military is military state or fed makes no dif

Posted by: rex Location: south bend on Feb 19, 2008 at 10:13 PM
All of the "patriots" overlook the mess that the military has become under Bush. They support the troops fighting and dieing, but not receiving quality health care and reasonable deployments.

Posted by: John on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:24 PM
i'm confused about his trailer job paying workmans comp. Where did this injury happen? If he got hurt in the army would his trailer job pay comp?

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:00 PM
good advice Mary MR DONNELY helped me .with my claim and got my dd214 corrected.also check all the info on your 214 as that was how the squirm out of it for years with me.if you call him ask for pete

Posted by: Danielle Location: Mattawan, MI on Feb 19, 2008 at 08:09 PM
I would just like to say...why is it always someone elses fault?!?! I am also an army wife. I HATED the Army when my husband first joined. But where else are you going to get the same benifits that the Army offers? I have come to accept the Army and its ways. My husband wants to retire and I fully support him in that. BUT...if for some reason he was injured or couldnt work while in the Army...I would get off my butt and get a job to support him and my kids. Sgt Ball I hope you get your problem solved...but I also hope that your unit does something about you going to the media over this. Like others have said...there are other ways to go about getting things done, you dont have to go to the media for sympathy.

Posted by: andrea Location: south bend on Feb 19, 2008 at 08:03 PM
I too was an army wife and for years i heard all about how the army takes care of the family, well as personal experience i know thats not true. My husband was in egypt and while there the army did nothing for us..we heard the excuse of lost paperwork so many times it made me sick..i agree with mary from osuth bend contact your congressman. The army cant ignore that call. you and your family are in our prayers and i hope all works out for you. and brenda from one army wife to another, i know its tough but keep your head up i know things will get better for you and your family.

Posted by: John Location: Kalamazoo, MI on Feb 19, 2008 at 07:51 PM
My question is why this soldier hasn't looked into other work. Grant it he might not be able to his job in the RV industry. But a bad shoulder is no reason that he couldn't get a desk job. There are more ways that a soldier can seek help through military channels rather than running to the media seeking sympathy. If the soldier had no luck with his unit, there's the Inspector General or Army One Source or even his local senator. As a soldier for the past 6 years, the last thing I would do is run to the media looking for help and bringing discredit to my unit. Another thing I hope people look at, is this a problem with the Indiana Guard and the way it is operated by the state and not the Army.

Posted by: Mary Location: South Bend on Feb 19, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Sgt Ball, as a retired Army wife, I totally understand. But the best way to get them moving is to contact your congressman. That was our final attempt back in 2006 when we moved to South Bend from FT Lewis, WA when my husband retired from the Army. The Army was going to make us pay for our final move, over $3300. We tried for months to get our household goods out of storage, to no avail. I was 8 months pregnant and didn't have any of my baby things. Finally, we wrote to Chicola and amazingly, the Army was happy to do what they were supposed to do to begin with. Funny how a letter from your congressman will work wonders. We only lived here for a couple months as well. Take care of yourself, unfortunately, the Army isn't going to do that for you.

Posted by: Dwayne Location: sb on Feb 19, 2008 at 06:30 PM
good luck sarg ive spent the last 30 years fighting the Va for PTSD and they just honored 2yrs of it because of loop hole BUT ITS NOT OVER YET honey im home the real fight is just starting.BUT sgtdont give up thats what they want.they dont care about you or your family and im sorry for u and yours .I had 2 marrages fall apart and missed watching my boys grow up.you likely will pay a heavy price for your service as will your family


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