David Snyder released from jail after being bloodied at council meeting
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Posted: 9:01 PM Sep 14, 2007
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Roseland council member David Snyder was released from the St. Joseph County jail Saturday afternoon after being held overnight.

 
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He was released after the prosecutor's office reviewed the police report and decided to drop the felony charge, clearing way for Dorothy Snyder to bail him out.

David Snyder was put in jail after David Snyder was ejected from a budget meeting Friday night, before being taken to the ground outside by a Roseland police officer.

The melee started because David Snyder protested after being given only one minute to speak by council member Charlie Shields. After a heated argument, laced with profanities, Shields kicked Snyder from the meeting.

Snyder slowly walked from the meeting, escorted by Officer Jack Tiller. When he got into the lobby, turned and said something to Tiller who appears to shove Snyder who falls hard into the glass door and outside.

NewsCenter 16's camera then shows David Snyder on the ground outside the town hall with Officer Tiller on top of Snyder. There are calls for Snyder to stop resisting as the officer pounds Snyder's head.

David Snyder was then taken to the hospital to be checked out before being taken to jail.

Be sure to check back with wndu.com and NewsCenter 16 for more on this developing story.

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Roseland town council member Charlie Shields kicks council member David Snyder out of Friday\'s budget meeting. Snyder was kicked out after arguing how long he was given to speak.
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Posted by: James Location: Baton Rouge LA on Jun 12, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Its sad to see humans being so brutal to each other. What solutions were achieved with this violence. A man got physically hurt, another lost his soul, and another lost his humanity. Such a waste. Ever wonder why God still cares about us, at all?

Posted by: rodney Location: cincinnati on May 21, 2009 at 04:16 PM
that police officer should be fired. we do not need bruts like him. officers like him is what gives police a bad name. also that council chairman was way out of line and should be removed from city council.

Posted by: TRUTH Location: FREEDOM on May 7, 2009 at 02:46 PM
YOU CAN SEE THE POLICE OFFICERS PUSH HIM IN THE REFLECTION ON THE GLASS IN THE HALLWAY...I HOPE HE USES THE FACT YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE REFLECTION IN COURT TO HELP HIS CASE

Posted by: Ruby John Location: Cedar Rapids, IA on Apr 16, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Welcome to the New World Order of Police State. It is obvious that the Honorable Police Officer pushed him; then punched him and then lied about hitting him. See anything wrong with this? Is this cop still on the job ? Shame on you people of Roseland !!! Nothing but, sheep and crooked politicans.

Posted by: Philippe Location: new york on Mar 10, 2009 at 09:47 AM
The next step to Plutocracy is Fascism ... all suns and daughters of corruotion and apathy.

Posted by: Not a Dvorak Location: St Joseph County (thats not America) on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM
The Dvoraks said this was a "justified beating" so no charges against Tiller. Snyder is just lucky he wasn't shot sixteen times for lying face down on the ground.

Posted by: H.Schwarz Location: AUSTRIA (thats in europe) on Aug 5, 2008 at 05:24 PM
god bless america. freedom of speech. land of the free. home of gun fanatics, brutal police, ignorant masses.

Posted by: Jeff Smith Location: Los angele on Jul 18, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Note how the officers always shout "stop resisting" when bashing in subdued suspects head while they are on top of them.

Posted by: scott Location: knowles on Jul 13, 2008 at 02:10 AM
David Snyder maybe over the top, but this is indeed police brutality. at lease twice ofc. tiller hit a passive suspect on video. i strongly advise David Snyder to sue. you only need nine.

Posted by: Mark Location: Massachusetts on Jun 23, 2008 at 12:25 PM
If that isn't a clear cut and dry case of police brutality, then I don't know what is! That officer Tiller should be thrown in jail for assault, battery and abuse of his office! That idiot Tedd Penn is lying his ass off! Gee...what a nice town! I think I'll move to Roseland, where the police attack, pummel and abuse the residents!

Posted by: andrew Location: rhodei sland on Jun 4, 2008 at 03:44 AM
I watched the video over and over again and at no point did mr. snyder (with his hands full carrying paperwork and a camera mind you) strike at or even make a threatening gesture toward the officer. you can see how the officer CLEARLY was just trying to inflict damage on mr. Snyder. Even if he was trying to restrain Mr. Snyder i dont recall strikes to the back of and side of the head as being taught in the police academy as proper restraint techniques. and then to sit and listen to the head of the town council lie about what he saw was classic saying he saw him swing and grab at the officer what a blatant lie. BLATANT LIE. you should be ashamed of yourselfs especially the liar of a council chairman. I have never witnessed such deplorable behavior by people who are supposed to be setting the example on how to conduct yourself.

Posted by: Anonymous on Apr 29, 2008 at 07:16 AM
As for the "FK Roseland" and "Joe" comments, they just show mental illness of these people.

Posted by: fk roseland Location: glad im not there on Apr 21, 2008 at 08:15 AM
frankly wether he hit him or not the man deserves to locked away and not allowed to be anywhere near the council meetings. as for the officer, sucks to be u, wether or not it was justified, or ur actions were not as bad as they appeared to be, as always the camera catches only the worst. by the way the article says bloodied, it didn't appear he had a mark on him when it was all said and down. Next time mr. tiller, thats assuming there would ever be a next time(lol). make sure the are no cameras, and that he doesn't get back up.

Posted by: Joe Location: S.B. on Apr 20, 2008 at 06:35 PM
Someone in Roseland finally got a set !!! This matter should have been taken care off a long time ago. Lock him up and his wife problem solved. Tired of them waste of time for news.

Posted by: Sharon Location: South Bend on Apr 14, 2008 at 07:28 PM
I am so glad I do not live in Roseland. I sure don't want my Grandkids around a bunch of idiots. Fire Tiller now and get him help for anger. And all you people on this town council are a joke. No matter how terrible Snyder is he does not deserve this kind of treatment. This is out and out police brutality.

Posted by: Paul Location: Michigan on Apr 14, 2008 at 04:35 PM
I realize that this looks bad, but you have to understand the frustration against that man. He was a tyrant while he ran Roseland, and brutilized the citizens of that small town. He made boss hog of hazzard county look like teddy bear. David is a Hilter/Stalin/Hussien wanna be. I do not feel any pity for this man. Oh, BTW, David is also $100,000 behind in child support to his crippled child while he drives a Jag. Still feel sorry for that scumbag?

Posted by: alan Location: New England on Apr 5, 2008 at 05:42 PM
What a joke! I was a policeman for 20 years and it's guys like Tiller that give us good guys a bad name. That's why I don't tell anyone I was a policeman, because I don't want to be grouped in with all the idiots that need a shiny badge to give them identity in their loves. Tiller shouted "Stop resisting" give me a break, the guy was not resisting (ever hear of Positional Restraint Asphyxia, Tiller-tubby?) also Tiller were you absent the day at the POlice Academy where they taught you never to strike someone in the head? No, you were probably at home watching "Cops" and making love to a bag of Cheetos. People remember there are alot of crazy cops out here that should be not wearing a badge and gun and some who should be in jail! Be careful, video whatever you can.

Posted by: RICHARD Location: LOGANSPORT INDIANA on Mar 26, 2008 at 11:19 PM
ILLEGALS? I GUESS YOU KNOW NO ONE WHO HAS BEEN IN AN ACCIDENT WITH ONE WITH NO LICENSE OR INSURANCE, OR HAD THERE SS# USED BY ONE. MY GRANDPARENTS CAME HERE THE RIGHT WAY AND IN TURN MY GRANDFATHER DIED SERVING THE COUNTRY HE ADOPTED, AND NOW SOME BLEEDING HEARTS ARE TRYING TO GIVE AWAY WHAT HE AND OTHERS GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR.

Posted by: fascinating on Mar 4, 2008 at 10:15 PM
People are still commenting because its awesome seeing crooked cops and politicians get caught and get what they have coming.

Posted by: Reasoning Location: Mishawaka on Mar 3, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Guess they needed to fill up some space here via the web with more of the Rose A Lites.

Posted by: Anonymous on Mar 3, 2008 at 09:55 AM
the cop no longer works for roseland but talk around town is that Tedd Penn (the councelman claiming it was self defense) hired the cop (jack tiller) in a power washing business.

Posted by: Me Location: tampa, florida on Mar 2, 2008 at 01:22 PM
Fire the cop. The old guy is obviously a pain in the butt, but he didn't deserve that punch to the head, no matter how pissed the cop was.

Posted by: JB on Feb 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM
I've seen the video of this incident, and regardless of the nature of the comment made by the councilman to the cop, the cop's actions were totally unwarranted and he should be not only removed from his duties as an officer but held criminally liable for his actions. This is absolutely outrageous!

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM
This happened a long time ago, why are people still commenting on it. and why is it still under popular headlinesl

The popular headlines is triggered automatically by what is being viewed. Every once in a while outside blogs or websites will pick up on this story and link to the article creating a traffic surge that could push the story into the most viewed list. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Anonymous Location: Granger on Feb 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM
I thought I was reading "old" news. It is hard to believe that this police officer can do this to the same man twice!!!

Posted by: Sage Location: Sageville on Feb 12, 2008 at 08:46 AM
Cop should be fired, he started it.

Posted by: Jon on Feb 6, 2008 at 12:10 AM
It looked to me as Snyder was leaving when he got "beat up" Thats what I saw. Good cop bad cop here we go again!

Posted by: Sue Location: South Bend on Feb 5, 2008 at 01:01 AM
Tiller is totally out of control. This cop should be fired and put in jail on police brutality. If any of us did something like this we would be in jail in a heartbeat. And you Snyders are not saints you just need to resign and you would not go through all this. So tell me why was Tiller not arrested also? All of you on this town council need help. No one deserves to be treated like Snyder was treated whle you all stood around watching. What is the matter with all of you??? Get some help every single one of you. And Snyder you too and resign so this stops they do not want you there and it will continue.

Posted by: anon Location: UK on Jan 29, 2008 at 09:58 AM
it's clear that Snyder made NO attempt to hit the officer as Ted Penn had suggested. Snyder appeared to say something as he left which possibly insulted the officer, the officer then pushed at Snyder until they both fell through the double doors at the front of the building... THIS CAN BE SEEN IN THE GLASS DISPLAY ON THE WALL INSIDE THE HALLWAY !!! Tiller you're a bully and a disgrace to the uniform. Whatever Snyder's policicies or actions are, no-one deserves to be assaulted as he was, certainly not by a POlice Officer !!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 29, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Prove it! Show us facts! If not, DO NOT post something you can't prove idiot. I'm waiting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Roseland on Jan 20, 2008 at 09:58 AM
For anybody who would like to check the Child Support record of David Snyder, they will find that he is 8 months ahead in his court ordered child support. So get off the personal attacks and look at the low lives that have gotten mindless money grubbing attorneys to sue Roseland with frivolous lawsuits to scare the Snyders into resigning. Didn't work, and the town is now broke and the low lives are in the town hall and attorneys have all the money. The law breakers are the low lives, not the Snyders.

Posted by: June Location: SOUTH BEND on Jan 19, 2008 at 07:35 PM
THEM SNYDERS ARE NOTHING BUT HEAD LINER STORIES WHO WILL DO ANYTHING TO BE ON T.V.- NEWSPAPER, BUNK-THEM AZZHOLES.FACE IT, THE MAN OWES BIG TIME CHILDSUPPORT AN STILL WALKING AMOUNG THE FREE AN PROBABLY STILL HAS A DRIVERS LICENSE, NOT FAIR TO OTHERS WHO HAVE HAD THEM TAKEN AWAY. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE, OH EXCUSE ME,WE,RE NOT THE SYNDERS WHO CAN BREAK ALL THE LAWS AN GET AWAY WITH IT.PAY-UP IF YOU CALL YOUR SELF A MAN. AN FURTHER MORE, YOUR UGLYINESS IS AS UGLY AS YOU TWO ARE. TIME TO GROW -UP,OTHER THINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THEN JUST ROSELAND.

Posted by: steve Location: warsaw on Jan 15, 2008 at 06:50 PM
If I would have been there I would have personally thanked the officer for what happened, Snyder in my opinion is a DEADBEAT LOWLIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rabid Irish Fan Location: Standing Tall on Jan 13, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Hey WNDU, tell your Chief Photog. from one to another. Great job on the white balance on the new balance. It is always a pain to get a WH in a pinch, awesome. I think that may have been pretty much police brutality, but, I'm not a Judge nor Jury. From the video I saw there was a woman in a yellow shirt who was saying something like, you did that to my dad, how do like it. I want to know what she was talking about. Snyder is a joke, but, Tiller jacked that dude up, cops should show no emotion when doing the job, he did, mistake.

Posted by: Uracan Location: Houston on Jan 9, 2008 at 10:04 PM
It appears that the other city councilman, Ted Penn, provided false testimony. It was clear from the video and the reflection on the glass in the corridor that the attack was unprovoked

Posted by: joy Location: california on Jan 4, 2008 at 12:21 AM
These scumbags need to be stopped. It looks like they have taken over this town. Officer Tiller should be in prison. This nest of vermin needs to be eradicated.

Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 29, 2007 at 10:20 PM
Check out David Snyder's response to "grand jury investigation" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGDPcYsGBo8

Posted by: Slade Location: Mishawaka on Dec 25, 2007 at 10:47 PM
WOW!!! 1,127 comments so far on this story. Thats more than the number of people who live in Roseland. Thats more than the number of people who voted in the South Bend election. Also in Mishawaka's election. WOW!! Makes you want to sing a Sonny & Cher song "And The Beat Goes ON!".

Posted by: copwatch Location: california on Dec 19, 2007 at 12:17 AM
This thug cop attacked this citizen for no reason other than to be a bully!!!! This cop needs to be in jail.

Posted by: Ed Location: Hartwell Ga on Dec 18, 2007 at 09:22 PM
This is no surprise to me. Cops beat people and get away with it everyday. They typically cite "resisting arrest" for the reason, and usually don't get questioned about it. But the camera catches this corrupt bully cop in his lie. Listen while he yells "stop resisting! This gives onlookers something to testify to, if called to court. It's obvious that this unconsconse man is not resisting. "Resisting arrest" and "assault on a Law Enforcement Officer" are typical false charges used by corrupt cops to justify their thuggary. Wake up people, this has to stop now! It could be your Father, Mother (yes they beat old ladies too) or Child being beaten next time.

Posted by: Carla Location: South Bend on Dec 17, 2007 at 12:33 PM
It is unbelievable to me that David Snyder has the gall to say that he has had to pay out all of this child support and it has put him in a bad way financially. What about YOUR CHILD??!!!! Do you not care if the child is taken care of? Of course not. All you are worried about is YOURSELF and your hideous wife. If you would have paid your child support all along like a good parent should, if you cared at all about the welfare of your child, you would not have to steal thousands from the town of Roseland to pay it back. Instead of posting ridiculous videos on YouTube, why don't you try WORKING!! Do something productive. I'm sorry that taking care of your child and living up to your responsibilities has put a financial burden on you. WE ALL DO IT!!! I pity you because you are a worthless human being and I use that term loosley. There is a special corner in HELL for souls like yours.

Posted by: jeff Location: Wakarusa on Dec 16, 2007 at 04:10 PM
There is not a single resident of Roseland that should not be disgusted with the action of their police departments behavior on that day. It seems pretty obvious that the moron on the bottom was in no position to offer any resistance. My only question is why in the hell is the officer not in jail. My guess would be if this had happened anywhere else charges would have been brought against officer Tiller. Serve and protect is what he swore to do, not serve and beat the crap out of!

Posted by: Mike Location: Coming to your town SOON. on Nov 21, 2007 at 05:45 PM
That fat cop is a coward, he was winded from taking sucker punches after shoving a guy with his hands full to the ground. He is so fat his giant utility belt is pinched open with his rolls of fat, WOW!! I hope he is fired and jailed, then starts his career as a security guard!!!

Posted by: voteFROMtheROOFTOPS Location: behind enemy lines on Oct 28, 2007 at 10:37 PM
welcome to the police state.

Posted by: Jeanne Location: Maine on Oct 28, 2007 at 01:01 AM
I just finished watching the video of the assault on Mr. Snyder by Tiller. As a former police officer myself, this is out and out police brutality that was committed against Mr. Snyder. Mr. Tiller could have simply sat on Snyder without repeatedly punching him in the face. In addition there were women in the background who seemed pleased by Tiller's actions, commenting about what about my Father? ie - I don't know what her problem is - but this is a shame that a City Council or Town Council meeting is conducted in such a manner as this was appeared to be on film. I heard Mr. Snyder mention Robert's Rules of Order and I'm willing to bet that most of the Council doesn't have a clue as to how Robert's Rules is used in meetings. I think Mr. Snyder should file a lawsuit for police brutality; Tiller should be relieved of his duties since it seems he cannot control his anger; and the voters should seriously consider a new Council. I'm glad I don't live in Roseland!

Posted by: Lou Location: Texas on Oct 22, 2007 at 12:57 AM
Every last one of them are clowns

Posted by: Todd Location: California on Oct 17, 2007 at 04:03 AM
Ted Penn obviously lied about his eye-witness account. The video clearly shows that Killer, sorry I mean Tiller, pushed Snyder (holding a camera stand and other materials) through the door and brutally pounded on him. I have a funny feeling that Tiller's parents might be brother and sister. Wouldn't that make them his aunt and uncle? Anyway, they need to fire him. You don't have to print this because you obviously don't believe in free speech.

Posted by: joe Location: texas on Oct 15, 2007 at 03:50 PM
Ted Penn and the officer are complete liars. Snyder's lawyer will have a field day in court. In the video, you can hear the girl telling the camera man to back away so that he can't video the brutal beating. She even enjoys it and makes reference to her father as he's beaten. That is disgusting.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Roseland on Oct 14, 2007 at 10:50 AM
This is factual information on Roseland Indiana with council majority Ted Penn and Charlie Shields this was taken on February 22, 2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVGqaYH9w0

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Roseland on Oct 13, 2007 at 12:28 PM
David Snyder was born in Roseland, his father was born in Roseland and his grandfather was also on the Roseland Town Council. A few bad eggs which you see on the video have used the media with lies and half truths to distort what has been happening in Roseland for years. "Hate the Snyders" is what they have been pushing, and sadly people were willing to buy it. Now, the brutality of this video is undeniable. The world sees who is in the wrong and who are the nasty people and the liars. Take stock Osceola, this could happen in your town. It could happen in any town. If there is a small group of felons and hate preachers/ugly mob, it can and will happen ANYWHERE to ANYBODY. David Snyder was attacked by Jack Tiller while lawfully doing Roseland town business. If you think this is OK, then you are part of the problem in America today. This ugly mob is trying to bully those who will stand up to them. Do you support this? If yes, turn in your American flag, you don't deserve it.

Posted by: Lee Location: Georgia on Oct 9, 2007 at 09:10 PM
Excessive force, plain and simple. That cop doesn't deserve to keep his shield. He obviously has issues. I'm married to a cop, so I'm not on a witch hunt. He had the guy almost out the door and he let the man get a reaction out of him. No excuse for him. FIRE HIM before he becomes a bigger liability.

Posted by: NO LAW Location: IN ROSELAND on Oct 9, 2007 at 03:42 PM
To Nate in SB. This isn't about "grammar and punctuation! Did you miss the story? You are probably depressed anyway. Get some counciling and meds!

Posted by: Nate Location: South Bend on Oct 9, 2007 at 01:08 AM
What ever happened to correct grammar and punctuation, South Bend? These comments are depressing and poorly written.

Posted by: No Law in Location: Roseland on Oct 7, 2007 at 05:05 PM
Tiller has untill December? Didn't Snyder get arrested on the spot? The Grand Jury should look into why it took a Grand Jury to do something about it! And Tiller is meanwhile free to enforce the "Law"?

Posted by: Gerald Location: Alabama on Oct 7, 2007 at 03:51 PM
Councilman Ted Penn is no doubt a liar. His statements regarding his "eye witness" account are in no way supported by the video tape. A careful examination of the tape show the reflection in the glass window indicates that Councilman Ted Penn is lying. If this goes to trial, Mr Snyder's attorneys are going to have a field day with Ted Penn. He will either be shown to have lied to the press in a video interview, OR he will open himself up for perjury charges. Were I him, I'd be concerned either way. After viewing the directly visible portion of the tape, which clearly shows both of Mr Snyder's hands full of camera tripod, several documents, and what appears to be a briefcase, and after slowly reviewing the reflections in the glass, it is obvious that Mr Snyder did NOT turn and did NOT hit, and did NOT place his hands in the face of the policeman as Councilman Penn alleged. Councilman Penn is obviously lying! Politics! I will also avoid Indiana as a whole. This town has issues !

Posted by: Johnny Devo Location: Atlanta on Oct 5, 2007 at 09:27 PM
It's obvious the wrong person went to jail - Sig Heil! Adolf would be so proud - were his jack-boots shined?

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 5, 2007 at 05:00 AM
It's called "dragging there feet". this is done in hopes that by the time "they" get around to talking about this case everyone would have cooled down. This is done so when nothing is done to Jack tiller or the roseland police department for his crime of police brutality the public would have forgotten about the video tape and it can be quietly swept under the rug.This is also done so Tillers lawers can say ," this was an isolated case that happened months ago and since then my client blah blah blah ". This only works if the person in question keeps there nose clean and doesnt get into anymore trouble. But a Hot-head like Jack Tiller will have a hard time keeping his cool until then . all we can do is hope he doesnt hurt or Kill someone in the next couple of months.

Posted by: Joe Location: Shmoe on Oct 4, 2007 at 07:55 PM
Don't get me wrong Snyder is no nice guy however this is uncalled for. Why does it take 3 months to decide if charges will be made against Tiller? This makes no sense. If he shot and killed Snyder (unarmed, unprovoked like this) would it take 3 months to decide charges then? If Snyder was to have attacked the officer would it take 3 months to charge him? This just gives police officers, Roseland, and the state a blackeye showing how clueless they are. I hope this hits IN when people avoid visiting this state (I will). I will look at the police differently and I no longer trust those who are to uphold the law (not break it and get away with it). Just because you are a police officer (or a government offical) does mean you are above the law. I hope this town goes bankrupt and Snyder sues for all it has left.

Posted by: Cary Prescott Location: Elkhart on Oct 4, 2007 at 06:02 AM
Why do we hear nothing much of some kind of disciplinary actionb against the Assaulting Officer?

No charges have been filed yet. A Grand Jury is being assembled in December to see if any charges will come from this incident. http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/10210306.html -WNDU.com


Posted by: RYAN Location: COLOMA on Oct 3, 2007 at 11:38 PM
I personally think that David is scum of the earth.But there was in no way shape or form the need for that kind of force. As much as u dislike Mi. if thats the way they deal with people in the S.B. area im glad i live on this side of the line. I have reviewed this video time and time again and nowhere do i see this man resisting his arrest and nowhere do i hear them tell him to stop resisting. This is a classic case of abusing athourity and officer Tilly gives good cops all over the world not only a bad name a black eye to the profession. If he has issues with the man someone else should have made the arrest. PERIOD! If Tilly is that emotionally destirbed and would like to fight there are places for that and if he needs a map i would be glad to draw one for him PERSONALLY and drive him if need be and then give him what he is looking for.PERSONALLY give him a little bit of what he's dishing out. and i thank you for your time.

Posted by: Freedom Location: Not here on Oct 3, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Snyder and town had an uneventful meeting (passed the budget) since. Tiller is still working (was off on workmans comp, must have hurt his fist or something). Nothing has come of this. No charges (other than the charges again Snyder). Snyder is trying to save the town by making cuts which include the 6 person police force (which could be why Tiller attacked him). The town is lying to protect this officer. He has gotten away with "murder" (or at least assualt for now). I for one I will tell all my friends about this and not to visit the state of indiana let alone roseland (what does it have to see anyways). The fact that nothing has or is being done about this is sickening. If the police don't have control why should I? Why This is showing you that freedom is quickly fading in the USA. No point contact state officials they are blind and deaf to this.

Posted by: Live Free or Die! Location: Hawaii on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:14 AM
What the cop did was completely unjustified. Anyway, what has happended so far? Any updates? I'm planning on getting involved in someway (Raising awareness, writing letters, emails, my local newspaper, ect). I won't put up with anymore police brutality anywhere. Check out copwatch.com. Has Tiller been taken off the streets? He's needs to be fired or punished in someway. They should start a copwatch program. Every state should.

Posted by: james Location: elkhart on Oct 2, 2007 at 11:50 PM
roseland police officer should be fired. he already had the guy on the ground. i dont think he needed to punch him repeatedly. bye-bye officer brutality

Posted by: Roseland Location: Corruption on Oct 2, 2007 at 09:14 PM
Tiller deserves to spend at least a year in jail for abusing the power he was given. Unfortunately this is typical of many cops and thanks to the internet and digital cameras they will get caught if they use excessive force. Police are here to protect and serve everyone, not just the people they choose. We have never given these meat-head, high-school bullies the power to judge people and hand out corporal punishment.

Posted by: Rory Location: Georgia on Oct 2, 2007 at 09:00 PM
Tiller should be in jail. There is no excuse for police to commit battery unprovoked, especially on an old man at a town hall meeting. I am disgusted at the entire town.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 2, 2007 at 06:56 PM
Oh brother, where did THAT come from? Besides, no one listens while you are YELLING!! Every town or burg has their own unique points of view. Roseland is one of them. Just remember this: None of this will matter 100 years from now........

Posted by: ROSELAND Location: CORRUPTION on Oct 1, 2007 at 10:19 PM
THIS IS WHAT A ARMED MILITA IS SUPPOSED TO DO. WHEN THE POLICE OR GOVERMENT BECOME CORRUPT THE MILITA IS OBLIGATED TO REGAIN CONTROL BY WHATEVER MEANS TO RETURN LAW AND ORDER TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION THAT WE CAN POSSESS WEAPONS. I PERSONNALY WOULD NOT TALK TO A POLICE OFFICER WITHOUT A CIVILIAN WITNESS PRESENT. DON'T COUNT ON INTEGRITY OR HONESTY WHEN TALKING TO THE POLICE.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Roseland on Oct 1, 2007 at 06:14 PM
To Patrick in RI... it is very possible that we will have to wait until November 7th to see what happens (the day after election day).

Posted by: Patrick Cottrell Location: Newport, Rhode Island on Oct 1, 2007 at 04:11 PM
I am a 1987 graduate of the University of Notre Dame(Electrical Engineering). I have been in touch with David and Dorothy Snyder about the completely unprovocked and brutal attack that Councilman Snyder suffered at the hands of the uniformed police officer (Tiller). The aftermath of the brutal attack upon Mr. Snyder has already been grossly mishandled, and grossly neglected, by the local prosecutor Michael Dvorak. Mr. Dvorak, upon seeing the videos of the assault and the conclusive video evidence contained within them, should have immediately filed serious assault charges against the police officer. But instead of doing his job, Mr. Dvorak is playing predictable politics and participating in covering up for the police officer, the police department, and the municipality. The assault on Councilman David Snyder by a uniformed police officer was an assault on all Americans. Mr. Dvorak's debasing of his job for political reasons should lead to his removal from office.

Posted by: STUPIDITY Location: IN ROSELAND on Oct 1, 2007 at 01:26 PM
AFTER SEEING THIS I WILL AVOID INDIANA, THE CORRUPTION IS COUNTY AND STATEWIDE OR SOMETHING WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ABOUT IT BY NOW!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Roseland on Oct 1, 2007 at 12:31 PM
To Darcia in Bellingham WA... very well put. Most of the people who attend those meetings do need therapy! They have made Roseland a disgrace and some do not even live in Roseland! They are just hired thugs. Anyway, about Officer Tiller, still no word... all we have heard is that Councilman/Compulsive Liar Ted Penn told a newsperson that Tiller has been out on Worker's Comp since this happened! Nothing has happened to this "officer"... not even reprimanded let alone prosecuted.

Posted by: Matt Location: New_Hampshire on Oct 1, 2007 at 11:13 AM
Kudos for WNDU posting these videos. I have been following this for a week. Has anything happened to that hot headed corrupt cop Tiller? What about the rest of the losy excuse for town council and other so called leaders? Has the governor had anything to say?

There was been a council meeting since then that ended without any physical incidents. There has been no official word on any investigations, charges, or other actions against anyone stemming from this incident. -WNDU.com


Posted by: melissa Location: granger on Sep 30, 2007 at 10:46 PM
How much do they actually make per hour the police that is? I have heard 6.00 I have heard 6.50 does not sem like much but then if you are paid according to job performance that explains alot. Do what everyone else does look for a higher wage job. Penn you are such a liar look at the video then watch your explanation of what happened what a joke time to retire ol boy kick them all out and start over or make them lose their seperate town merge with southbend they already use other city resources, but get rid of jack we dont want him on the SB police force.....Has he even gotten into trouble for anything should be public knowledge, new nick name "Jack the Ripper Puncher"

Posted by: Rick Location: Green Bay, WI on Sep 30, 2007 at 09:37 PM
Wow... This whole thing is unbelievable. I first saw this on You Tube. Looks like Roseland has a bad cop on their hands, and it seems like they're trying to sweep it under the carpet. I hope Mr. Snyder sues the city and that hopefully soon to be ex-cop Tiller. I'm sure any jury would award Snyder a respectable compensation reward. Nice job to this TV station for covering the story and staying on the story. Finally, I'm grateful I don't have to live in Roseland, and I'll be sure to steer clear of it when travelling. Good luck, and I hope the residents demand action is taken.

Posted by: Raechel Whetstone Location: Morehead, KY on Sep 30, 2007 at 08:41 PM
This is an outrage, and a prime example of police brutality that still exists. The woman shouting "how does it feel" was irrate, and no one even knew what she was talking about. She was trying to prevent others from seeing what was happening. He was already on the ground and immobile while the officer was hitting him. What was he even being arrested for? I believe even if he was resisting, which he was not, he has the right to resist an unlawful arrest.

Posted by: Tony Location: Cedar Rapids, IA on Sep 30, 2007 at 06:53 PM
Only in George Bush's America could we have this type of assault on free speech coupled with police brutality. I am horrified by what transpired. What’s next, thought police?

Posted by: David Location: New York on Sep 30, 2007 at 05:49 PM
I can't believe that this officer is still on the job, let alone not being investigated. Is this the 12th century? The conduct of some of the bystanders taunting this poor guy is also inexcusable. This is not how responsible and mature people behave.

Posted by: Citizen Location: USA on Sep 30, 2007 at 04:26 PM
So...did Tiller get away with it? Why haven't we seen any follow-up stories on this? Is the GOVT telling the media to shut up and let this story disappear? WNDU, what has happened to Tiller? And WHY or WHY NOT?

Posted by: amy Location: Bloomington, Indiana on Sep 30, 2007 at 01:36 PM
This is a disgrace! The police in this country are out of control!! Police brutality is running rampant. What happened to free speech?

Posted by: Chris Location: Iowa on Sep 30, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Police brutality and the assault on free speech must stop. Our rights we prize our liberties we will maintain.

Posted by: Don Location: Danielson, CT on Sep 30, 2007 at 11:24 AM
I can remember being handcuffed and placed in a cruiser by 5 officers over a false claim. Once seatbelted in, an officer (of the law) reached in between two others and belted me in the face just because he wanted to. The other 2 scolded him but nothing else was said, and I was refused medical services. The state I pay child support to called me and asked me if I know where the mother and child live to whom I pay support to.(paperwork!)Where has my money been going for the last 13 yrs? These things do happen and more often than not. I think that the Snyders deserve much do credit from the citizens of Roseland for puting up with all this crap. They just want to make good, but apparently the town council along with checks and balances need to be looked at a little bit closer.

Posted by: Paul Location: Canada on Sep 30, 2007 at 09:31 AM
That cop should be fired immediately, and be charged with "assault with intent to cause bodily harm".

Posted by: jack v Location: live free or die NH on Sep 30, 2007 at 08:17 AM
Huge law suit and reward comming for that poor fellow. Lawyers must be lining up to take his case. BIG MONEY $$$$$$

Posted by: John Location: iowa on Sep 30, 2007 at 03:46 AM
sad, as a police officer i am appauled at the actions of the officer the escorted mr. snyder out of the meeting. this is obvious excessive force. you cannot deliver blows to the back of an idividuals head that is clearly unarmed when you mount a person to restrain them with cuffs. the officer should be trained to know that he is not going to be able to bring his arms to his back when they are pinned beneath him. i would relive this office of his duties.

Posted by: d Location: not roseland on Sep 30, 2007 at 01:52 AM
snyder verbally provoked members at the meeting but it was no excuse for what happened to him. he did not touch the officer and he was not under arrest. he walked peacefully towards the exit and was attacked from behind by officer tiller...there is no other way of saying it...unless your a complete idiot like the one who ironically asked "did you fall?" AND why was he arrested? because the police officer needed a reason/alibi for his actions i believe in law enforcement but when something like this happens without sanction its leads me to question my belief.

Posted by: Carl Location: Iowa on Sep 30, 2007 at 01:00 AM
It's become a litmus test. It's now easy to tell who are those who have authoritarian personality types and support the growing pandemic of police brutality in post-911 America. If Bush is above the law, so are we all. Look out, boys and girls, here come the jack-booted thugs. This is what happens when our "leaders" sell FEAR. Anyone who thinks a victim of state intimidation deserves it, is not worthy of citizenship. They belong to the mob. We have sunk so low...

Posted by: Darcia Location: Bellingham, WA on Sep 29, 2007 at 11:54 PM
Tiller has no business enforcing law - he needs to seek therapy. In fact, most of those people on that video do. Grow up people, get an education and realize this for what it is - police brutality.

Posted by: Kat Location: Puyallup Wa on Sep 29, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Wow. I'm speechless after watching this video. I believe that not all cops are bad but this one here....He should be taken away with cuffs and tossed to the public. The way he treated this man was unnatural. Tiller is fully responsible for this and needs to be punished as well as loose his badge permanently. He's the reason cops have a bad image.

Posted by: Tom Metzger Location: Warsaw, IN on Sep 29, 2007 at 10:05 PM
Proof that we are only mere slaves in the United States. Cops know it too and will kill you and will get away with it. The child support scam is another way the US government can plunder Social Security that is breaking with $7trillion in IOUs that will not be paid back. County gov'ts are paying their employees with our retirement money in the name of collecting child support. This Cop made a big collection putting somebody in jail that has lost everything and has no more money. Snyder is not the only one in this position that has to depend on their 2nd wife to survive because a court sets child support tax so someone will go into default so the more money the county will get in collections pretending to collect for kids when it is only for their paycheck checks. Check out my site resist.com and let's get rid of this immoral government today.

Posted by: Robert Location: Tennessee on Sep 29, 2007 at 09:32 PM
Its starting to look like Jack Tiller has gotten away with police brutality. I hate to think Tiller can assault someone in public on video tape and not have to answer for it. makes me wonder what happens on the dark streets of roseland while no one is watching. I just hope it does not take a death to get the attention of Governor Mitch Daniels about Jack Tillers anger problem. My advice to the citizens of roseland is if you come into contact with Tiller, stay calm , do not voice your opinion, do not make eye contact, do not make any fast movements of your hands(getting wallet/registration), mind your manners(yes sir/no sir). no facial gestures(rolling eyes/cringing face),keep your answers short,agree with all his remarks,Failing to follow this advice with most any other policeman may result in a stiff ticket/fine.in the case of Jack Tiller of the roseland police department it could result in getting your skull cracked or worse being shot and kILLED. Good luck people of roseland. :(

Posted by: Bill Location: C on Sep 29, 2007 at 07:54 PM
Did anyone else notice you can actually tell the officer pushed him through the door. If you notice the jacket was parallel to the door of David Snyder and then look into the glass reflection in the background and compare it to the audio. There was a dark figure jacket that was behind snyder indicating the police pushed him. I wonder if you can get an expert to blow that reflection up as people are saying we 'never saw the whole video', obviously this is policemen with bugs up their butt that went balistic for no reason. Anyway...anybody think this is possible and would help his case?

Posted by: Fredrik Location: Lansing on Sep 29, 2007 at 03:26 PM
Ridiculous! That lady screaming at Snyder, listen up REVENGE IS NOT JUSTICE. This is clear cut blockheaded Police brutality crossing the line to simply flex their muscles. Who's going to take the brunt of this? Who's going to release that cop from duty and make an example of him? It won't do much large-scale, but it might at least prove a point in Roseland!

Posted by: Mike Location: Madison, Indiana on Sep 29, 2007 at 10:58 AM
I can't believe this officer is not is prison for his actions. Another fine example of a small town policer, thinking he above the law. Mr. Tiller, they're going to love you in Plainfield "IDOC".

Posted by: Richard More Location: UK on Sep 29, 2007 at 09:52 AM
This is outrageous. What is appauling is to hear somebody actively supporting the brutality, shouting "Get him! Get him for my Dad!". I am saddenned by the levels of violence in America. This is something that needs to be addressed soon, for the sake of your children.

Posted by: BECKY Location: SOUTH BEND on Sep 29, 2007 at 08:21 AM
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SOME OF YOU ARE SAYING THAT OFFICER TILLER IS NOT RESPONSIABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS CLEARLY SHOWN ON THE VIDEO'S. NO MATTER HOW MUCH PEOPLE HATE THE SNYDERS THEY ARE STILL HUMAN AND HAVE RIGHTS JUST LIKE YOU AD ME. OFFICER TILLER NEEDS TO LOSE HIS JOB.

Posted by: Paul Location: Washington State on Sep 29, 2007 at 02:50 AM
Where is the accountability? Is this corrupt individual of the law going to continue to be paid with public dollars? He is sworn to uphold the law yet he himself is a criminal in this act. Where is his (the officers) judgement?

Posted by: East Coaster Location: New York State on Sep 29, 2007 at 01:03 AM
And people wonder why the term "Red Neck" still persists. The town council is a joke, the police force is a joke, probably the whole town is like a disfunctional classroom of 5 year olds! Gotta love the "Did not...Did to" of the council meeting! No matter how much you don't like sommeone, that doesn't give you the right to BEAT them. The tape doesn't show everything, but it is clear the the police officer starts pushing/shoving him in a very agressive manner in response to what the man SAID as HE WAS LEAVING. Right from the start there was no reason for the cop to push him. Just seeing that I'm more inclined to believe that the cop attacked him first. Again, just because you don't like the guy, doesn't make it o.k. for the police to ASSAULT him.

Posted by: Wesley Location: A free america on Sep 29, 2007 at 01:00 AM
Wow. how on earth can you get away with something like that? Granted the councilman was out of line and his behavior childish, does that condone his beating? The man was clearly subdued but still was hit frequently by the police officer. The members of this community need to voice their outrage at such an event! No man is above the law even when he represents it. As a police officer he is held to a higher standard than we average citizens. Perhaps his indeffinate suspension and the outraged citizens of Roseland will remind him of that.

Posted by: Jose Location: Oklahoma City on Sep 29, 2007 at 12:38 AM
that's disgusting. you can hear them taunting him, "did you slip and fall?". Justice?

Posted by: John Brown Location: South Bend on Sep 28, 2007 at 03:01 PM
This happens all the time. Police over step their boundaries on a daily basis. If anyone of us did that we would be in jail on battery charges

Posted by: sm0ky Location: Ft Worth on Sep 28, 2007 at 02:57 PM
Ted Penn...Your a lier, and everyone can easily see what you say is incorrect! Your pathetic!

Posted by: mei Location: uk on Sep 28, 2007 at 09:25 AM
ah another video of a thug in an uniform protecting the citizens of the land of the free, and you can't understand why the rest of the world thinks its a joke when bush says hes going into the middle east to protect the rights of the ordinary people...open your eyes and start at home, this is one of many such like videos on the web , another police officer getting away with assault

Posted by: Rick Location: Sydney Australia on Sep 28, 2007 at 09:10 AM
Jesus-H!.....I was so appaled by this, I sent a link to this site to 3 tv stations and a talk-back radio station. The reaction from the Radio station( over here ) was FULL-TILT! callers filled the board for hours. We dont take kindly to treatment like that from ANYBODY over here - but a COP? a so-called protector of people?....personally, that bloke would last around 30 seconds in my town.

Posted by: Diana Location: Roseville MN on Sep 28, 2007 at 06:52 AM
I don't know the situation here so I have no comments about it. However, I work within the criminal justice system - Police all over the country are getting out of hand with power needs, violene and dishonesty whenever they so choose. It quite evident that they same laws that apply to "citizens" don't "need" to apply to law enforcers and law makers. It's a pretty sad states of affairs living in a country where one of the great fears of many is any kind of encounter (even the most innocent) with police. The crimnal behavior of many law enforcement officers is quite frightening.

Posted by: Tom Location: Carmel IND on Sep 27, 2007 at 11:29 PM
I understand Mr Tiller is out on workmans comp as reported by WNDU yesterday i wonder what for.

Posted by: Tom Location: Carmel IND on Sep 27, 2007 at 10:32 PM
I believe in applying the logic of Jerry Spence (Famous Wyoming Attorney) to get at the root of things. To me it looks like a lot of money problems and not to be under shadowed by all the ill feelings between citizens of Roseland. If there is litigation to come about you can bet there will be twist and turns you may never ever considered brought up if a good attorney gets this case. Chances are the case will be heard involving many things not just the video we see here, the Judge has the leeway to allow other testimony.

Posted by: Cover Up? Location: USA on Sep 27, 2007 at 05:30 PM
There is now a lot of talk about a cover up. Tiller/Tillman is still working and nothing has come from this video. The video has already been seen by millions. But more importantly why is there no mention of what is going on, on wndu's site anymore? The news must be controlled by the Mayor. I can only find this by search "David Snyder Police". Makes you wonder who really controls this town and how much oppression there is (maybe the town folk are affraid to speak up). Makes this case more interesting because it screams there is something to hide. What a sad excuse for a town. I feel sorry for the hard working people of this town. But I guess it wont be around for much longer. 82% Females (Most 20-40) (Males 40 ) and 92% Whites. Half the population left in 2000-2001. With a very high crime rate. These numbers say a lot about this place. Corruption at its finest.

The story has been listed in the most popular headlines on the homepage for the last two weeks. That list is created automatically and ranked according to the number of people looking at the story in the last 24 hours. All the videos can still be seen on 16 Video Plus. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Matt Location: New_Hampshire on Sep 27, 2007 at 01:13 PM
Dysfunctional, dysfunctional, dysfunctional town. From the Town council, to the police. Try electing some decent leadership and abandoning your lawless inbred ways.

Posted by: Jethro Location: Beverly Hills on Sep 27, 2007 at 08:29 AM
Gee Tracy, PROVOCATION? Does it say that the police can attack and punch a man who is not resisting nor physically threatening? Do you need to be reminded that Mr. Snyder was unconscious laying face down while Tiller was punching him? It's obvious the Roseland residents' family trees all have no branches.

Posted by: Joe Shmoe Location: Far Away on Sep 26, 2007 at 08:21 PM
Please Tracy!!! Even if it is a law, does it say you can brutally attack someone? There was no resisting. Yes your peers are your judges (that’s why there is a thing called trial by jury). The officer is twice his size and had him restrained when he pushed him to the ground (very forcefully and unnecessarily). He never said you are under arrest. I am sure Snyder is a creep, but that is not what is being questioned. The officer is the one bringing the attention to this bankrupt town. No one would’ve cared if nothing happened and Snyder walked out. He didn’t refuse to leave, he got up and left when told. If the officer just let the man leave like he was, this never would've happened. So if you called me a loser that gives me the right to attack you? What ever happened to restraint? We are not talking about to Joe Shmoes on the street getting into a fight, this was a cop, a person of the law, a person that is suppose to set an example for the community. He must face the consequences of his action. It’s called accountability, something this town doesn’t seem to know of.

Posted by: dave Location: a corrupt America on Sep 26, 2007 at 04:57 PM
That was despicable. Big deal if Mr. Snyder messes with your meetings. He obviously does care about your town or he wouldn't bother trying to speak his mind. As for that (hopefully soon to be ex) cop, Tiller, the way he went about "subduing" Mr Snyder was disgusting. If he knew how to do his job correctly and with integrity, he never would have needed to punch the man, a man obviously much older than himself. Oh well, maybe Tiller can get a job shooting with Blackwater, shooting at innocent civilians. That would better suit his abilities. I realyy hope Mr Snyder sues the crap out your city for hiring such a thug.

Posted by: Tracy Location: South Bend on Sep 26, 2007 at 03:41 PM
Regarding David Snyder: Please stop giving the man attention. That is clearly what he wants. It is completely obvious that Snyder provoked Ofc Tiller and everyone else present...This is called provocation Indiana Code 35-42-2-3. By posting the video you are letting the public be judge and jury against Ofc Tiller. What a mess. I feel sorry for the citizens and business owners of Roseland.

Posted by: Molly Location: Roseland on Sep 26, 2007 at 12:28 PM
I've taped the news from Roseland for three years. If you have only seen this one video you have no clue as to what we, as citizens, are going through. We have tried to kick the Snyder's out of office, but there is no law to help us.

Posted by: Matt Location: Canada on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:40 AM
What is happening with this case? Has any action been taken against Tillman and/or the town? Or is he still working? I agree with Chuck to contact the Governor of IN to have this investigated by an outside source (the state). Wages and child support (half the town probably doesnt pay their child support) are no justification. I hope we can get an update as to what the fall out of this video is. Snyder is lucky a camera was around because it sounds like everyone there was for this and would testify against Snyder. Which shows the integrity of this town. I wonder how they would react if it was them that was attacked by an officer of the law. I guess they "don't follow that" either. Why was Snyder charged at all (let alone federal)? He was leaving. Is the town council being disbanded? They are obviously not able to run this town and need to be replaced.

Posted by: Matt Location: Canada on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:25 AM
As stated by Ben you can clearly see in the reflection that Snyder is pushed off balance and falls through the front door without making any attack against Tiller. You will also notice that Snyder is carrying a camera in one hand and files in the other. Now if he was to attack Tiller (as claimed) would these not be in the hallway were he tried to attack the cop not outside? Also the officer was on top of the man (punching him repeatedly in the head) while he was face down clearly not resisting. The other officer almost had to pull Tillman off. This town is backwards and I am glad I don't live there (and would never visit). Snyders past or what he is trying to do with the town doesnt justify this action. It is about the police being professional (doing their jobs). You can clearly see Snyder was attacked first by the officer. I dont understand why people are allowing their personal opinions about this man justify this action. It would be different if Tillman was just a citizen.

Posted by: As I see it Location: Way to close to Roseland on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:16 AM
Yeah the officer was very wrong in this, But are you looking at it from both sides? Do not believe for one second that David Snyder did not want this to happen. He is dirty as well. I would not put him past souping up the fall and the egging during it to make this look worse then it is. Did you see the size of this officer? Snyder was all smiles after words. Both are wrong! Snyder should not be on the council and Tiller should lose his job. Call it a wash.

Posted by: Chuck Location: Mishawaka IN on Sep 26, 2007 at 09:45 AM
"EVERYONE PLEASE CALL/EMAIL THE GOVERNOR OF INDIANA" Yeah,lets send him out to a Roseland council meeting and give him the Tiller treatment for putting Indiana on eastern time. Now that would be an effective meeting.

Posted by: Ben Location: OHIO on Sep 26, 2007 at 09:33 AM
After reading the background on the whole Snyder/Roseland/Town Council info, this is clearly prime time entertainment. Dennis is no saint, and near as I could tell, never claimed he was. The town council situation is a joke and should be featured on Springer. With his hands full, Snyder was clearly shoved out the door by the scum bag cop. Just watch the reflection on the wall. Penn is clearly lying, as right off, he says Snyder was in handcuffs and the cop begins to shove him almost immediately out the door. Purely a disfunctional town council.

Posted by: Laura D. Location: Elkhart on Sep 26, 2007 at 09:03 AM
Well David you did what you wanted to do. Piss someone off to the point of getting them to hit you. I hope they award you nothing. Roseland Council: You all look like lying fools now. Is there a little voice saying "we really screwed up" You also let the same anger out that Mr. Tiller did, just yours was verbal. Roseland Police: Mr. Tiller was in the wrong for not being able to control his temper, But when pushed to the brink and being made fun of in public and in front of your wife I can see where pride would step in. At $6.00 an hour you can just move on. If you really wanted to hurt him you would have. Its is just to bad you gave him exactly what he wanted. To the Community: I am ashamed. At the beginning they looked like fools (give them enough rope...) Now we all look like fools. We have other countries giving there two cents on how stupid this really is. We are all at fault here. We have watched this unfold to where it is. Its so EASY to point the finger elsewhere isn't it.

Posted by: Matt Location: Too Close on Sep 26, 2007 at 01:16 AM
I like how Snyder cites the "code" and you can hear someone say "we don't follow that." You have a code with rules and what not, and yet you don't follow it? Hilarious. I know I will never call a cop in Roseland a bully, I now see what comes of it. Almost as funny as the guy giving Snyder the floor, then less than 20 seconds later, says he never gave him the floor. This town has some serious problems...

Posted by: Matt Location: Too Close on Sep 26, 2007 at 12:59 AM
I think it is hilarious that there are actually people saying the Snyder ruined their oh so precious town. I never had anything against Roseland or IN, but after seeing how your police force is, its not hard to see what did in fact ruin your town and what keeps most of the world away from you crazy people...if you live in Roseland OPEN YOUR EYES and see what is truly ruining your town, as this video clearly shows just some of your towns problems. From police bullies, to councilmen who make up rules to regulate someones speech because they don't like the person, to idiotic people who will actually listen to these rules and side with these police bullies, to councilmen who lie ON CAMERA about the events that happened ON CAMERA, its amazing you still blame your problems on Snyder. Did Ted Penn actually think people would believe his lie when it was all caught on tape. It truly is utterly amazing...

Posted by: Joe Location: Anchorage, Alaska on Sep 26, 2007 at 12:10 AM
I think citizens have an obligation to intervene when another citizen is being brutalized. Police do not have the authority to break the law and assault citizens whenever they want.

Posted by: phoebe Location: indianapolis on Sep 25, 2007 at 10:37 PM
i wouldn't want that guy making my cheeseburger at mcdonalds let alone remaining a police officer

Posted by: Concerned Citizens Location: Roseland on Sep 25, 2007 at 09:55 PM
Ted Penn is such a liar, everybody can see what Jack Tiller did. Those two are the biggest embarrassment Roseland has ever had. They lied to everyone, over and over about David Snyder. People of this town need to get together to stop Penn and his group from bullying citizens, and controling the police. Come to the council meeting Sept 26, 5:30pm at the town hall and tell the bullies that enough is enough.

Posted by: Diana Location: LaPorte on Sep 25, 2007 at 09:09 PM
I think if I had was part of the council meeting I would sell ticket to make money to make sure the police have a pay check. When is the next bout??

Posted by: Nicole Location: Stevensville, MI on Sep 25, 2007 at 06:15 PM
Why is it that he is arrested for not paying child support for years and yet all the comments are about police brutality?? It seems Mr. Snyder the deadbeat got exactly as he ployed for.. the focus pointed to someone other than himself as he always seems to do.. He acts as if he can do no wrong, and he is such a victim.. If he played by the rules.. I would be more concerned with his misfortunes.. but he doesn't and is a deadbeat that blames society and govt for all of his woes..

Posted by: Roseland Location: Corruption on Sep 25, 2007 at 04:40 PM
To Hollywood, You couldn't be more wrong. The councilman was never told not to resist. You missed everything. The police do not have the power to address this "anyway they want" . And also he was never placed under arrest untill the beating. You deserve similar!

Posted by: RICK Location: Sydney Australia on Sep 25, 2007 at 04:37 PM
Ive sent this off to the Austrlain radio media - hope this helps.

Posted by: John Doe Location: Thankfully Far Away on Sep 25, 2007 at 04:21 PM
Snyder is carrying his files and camera. They end up outside on the ground with Snyder. If he was to attack Tillman in the hall would he not have to drop the items to attack him? Also you can see Snyder is thrown off balance when Tillman attacks (because he probably was not expecting it) and is going down when he goes out of site. Not to mention why the cop was still punching him when he was on the ground. Making $6.50 an hour gives you the right to do whatever you want? How can these people defend this action? Sad because they will probably give him a medal for his honorable police work because the town is so backwards. Where is the state? Where are the federal authorities? This proves there is a level of lawlessness in this town. It was obviously a personal attack because he called him a bully. You can see it in the way Snyder is pushed. Democracy at its finest. The guy who kicks Snyder out is responsible for this incident.

Posted by: SUE Location: ROSELAND on Sep 25, 2007 at 04:17 PM
I keep hearing the word sue. Snyder should sue sue sue. For What? The Snyders broke the town!! Whats there left to sue?? Dave Snyder got his settlement in the form of embezzling the towns money via the clerk CHERYL GRIDLEY. I hope Tiller runs for town concil. He would have my vote and about 200 others that I know here in town. The Snyders are the lowest form of life on earth. Given the chance David IMO is very capable of doing extreme physical harm to any man women or child. PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!!

Posted by: Kye Location: Indiana on Sep 25, 2007 at 03:12 PM
Officer Jack Tiller should be fired and arrested for assault immedately. If he isn't, His superiors should be investigated for condoning criminal activity in their own department. Jack Tiller should not be in a position of authority as it is clear that in responce to being called a bully, he proceeded to assualt the person saying it. Snyder is lucky he didn't say anything about Jacks mama otherwise he might have been shot.

Posted by: Robert Location: Tennessee on Sep 25, 2007 at 02:54 PM
I have been checking in every 4 or 5 hours or so for the last 2 days hoping to see the news stating that Jack " Hammer" tiller has been arrested for the beating of david snyder. On the tape of the beating i see another "policeman" patting tiller on the back and it even seemed at one point he was going to grab tiller's arm as he's hitting snyder from behind while snyder is face down on the ground. was this an effort to stop tiller's beating or was he doing that to inform tiller that there was cameras rolling. I understand that snyder is pushing to do away with the roseland "police" department. and i understand that the roseland " police" have not been paid in some time and there hourly wages have been reduced to $6:00 and hour. if all this is true i believe this beating was in retaliation . Thank you WNDU for the outstanding news coverage of this unfortunate incident.

Posted by: Gary Location: Los Angeles on Sep 25, 2007 at 02:52 PM
This is disgusting. Pure police brutality. If this were my county, I would leave immediately. It's strange to see this type of corruptness at local levels.

Posted by: HollywoodNdn Location: USA on Sep 25, 2007 at 02:43 PM
My support is for the Police Officers, he was advised not to resist, he made a choice to resist arrest..when you make that choice to resist then the options for the officers are to detain you with every means possible...

Posted by: kellie Location: elkhart on Sep 25, 2007 at 02:29 PM
I think this Ted Penn is a liar. I don't think he likes this Snyder guy and was hoping that Snyder would stay in jail. His body language tells it all he over exaggerates his movements.

Posted by: Matt Location: Colorado on Sep 25, 2007 at 01:58 PM
Police Brutality plain and simple. Officer Tiller and the town will be sued and they will loose, I know, I am a Lawyer and based on what I saw on the video, Mr Snyder will have enough money from winning his suit to pay back his child support, and then retire. Stupid Police Officer.

Posted by: Sheila Location: South Bend on Sep 25, 2007 at 01:06 PM
I can't believe how many people are sticking up for Snyder when they can't tell from the video what Snyder may have done to Tiller between leaving the room and the footage of Tiller on top of him. Isn't it plausible that perhaps David Snyder swung his tripod at Tiller? Perhaps elbowed him? David Snyder is a crook plain and simple. The man openly shows contempt for the child support system, the courts, and the Town Council for Roseland. Whatever happened to him beating up the other council member several months ago? His little dog Dorothy even locked the door to the Town Hall to let the beating take place. Where was everyone with their "brutality" comments then? Marshal Tiller deserves a medal!!!

Posted by: jim Location: toronto on Sep 25, 2007 at 12:06 PM
after seeing the video,i hope mr. snyder sues the cop and the town councel for millions,

Posted by: whiskey Location: oklahoma on Sep 25, 2007 at 11:30 AM
This cop looks like a jackbooted thug in this video. Its crazy that some of the folks here are willing to overlook police brutality because this Snyder guy is a creep. Well then, he's a creep that got creamed by a hot-headed goon with a badge while his back was turned to him. Feel safe brave citizens of Roseland, the local police !force! has !got your back!

Posted by: Ron Location: Somewhere in a small town,like yours in northern New York on Sep 25, 2007 at 10:43 AM
As police officer,all I can say is you are acting as an agent of Roseland,and there fore Roseland will have to cough the money up when this Snyder guy sues the crap out of Roseland. Tiller you just gave all that serve another black eye even if you do make $6.50/hr not justified. Thanks for making me look like a jerk...

Posted by: Steve Location: PA on Sep 25, 2007 at 09:26 AM
What a bunch of hicks!, and who the heck is Hilter? dyslexic Hitler? Wouldn't visit Roseland. Wouldn't trust those folks to make my change at a convenience store. Those are not police officers they're hired thugs.

Posted by: David Location: Ga. on Sep 25, 2007 at 08:16 AM
If you watch the vid closely you can tell that Snyder never got agressive with the officer. His left hand was hidden but holding his camera and his right arm is down and relaxed. He only turned and made a derogatory comment (bully) to the officer. The officer clearly overreacted and should be held accountable for his actions. Seems that Snyder called him a "bully" for some known and obvious reason.

Posted by: nick Location: Omaha, Ne on Sep 25, 2007 at 02:39 AM
Unbelievable, could be a sitcom.

Posted by: David Location: "Smith" on Sep 25, 2007 at 01:42 AM
I don't care about a back story. This police officer had no right. If he doesn't lose his job i'll be shocked. As a police officer he has more responsibility. Or if the courts want, maybe it should only be a misdemeanor to assault a police officer. Ridiculous as that sounds...What happened to this man should sound equally ridiculous.

Posted by: Jane Location: Lakeville on Sep 25, 2007 at 01:21 AM
This is where our town is headed with Jim Halasz in the role of David Snyder. The tape doesn't show exactly what happened between Snyder being escorted out and his arrest. With his big mouth, though, I can easily see Snyder using that little window of opportunity to intentionally provoke the Town Marshal.

Posted by: Chris Location: Stockton,CA on Sep 25, 2007 at 01:18 AM
No matter how disliked the Snyder guy is, He was shown as the calm and mature person. Everybody at the tables, room and the officer hated this guy. Has this gone to CNN yet? Because after this is over, Roseland will be no more. It will be Snyderland. Named after the owner of the town.

The video was shown on MSNBC, CNN, and was available for any NBC station in the country to use. -WNDU.com


Posted by: caleb Location: kentucky on Sep 25, 2007 at 12:28 AM
I want to know, the cop who tackled and hit him in the head, where did he go after he arrested snyder. He handcuffed him and then disappears from the video. Strange?

Posted by: Zur Location: Mishawaka on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:27 PM
The Snyders are nuts! They have been in the news for one thing or another for years. Did you all hear someone call him Hitler?

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Cali on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:21 PM
Tiller was wrong and from what I saw should be terminated. police brutality

Posted by: A real American Location: Florida on Sep 24, 2007 at 10:49 PM
Hey Gene from Roseland, it is not about hatred for officers, it is about professionalism; it does not matter if Snyder is a child rapist, their job is not to decide what this countries court system was designed for. Do you guys hunt witches and hang them, too? All honorable officers are most likely sickened by those imposters.

Posted by: Cyndy Location: alabama on Sep 24, 2007 at 10:07 PM
What was the orignal charge on David,or are all the trumped up charges all due from getting beat up by Tiller? The requirements for the PD in Roseland must be low.Tiller would never pass the physical in my city.Not to mention the IQ test.AGAIN...EVERYONE PLEASE CALL/EMAIL THE GOVERNOR OF INDIANA. ROSELAND IS IN BAD NEED OF A STATE INVESTAGATION. Also..THANK YOU WNDU. GREAT JOB! I have titled this online reality show "Hit Him One For My Daddy"

Posted by: Kay Location: Mishawaka on Sep 24, 2007 at 09:36 PM
So what is the connection between the Snyders and the local government? How did Dorothy just happen to have the Judges home phone number and could call him in the middle of the night?????? Do the Snyders have another connection there. Seems like everytime David is put in jail he gets out in a few hours. There seems to be so many illegal things going on in our local government. David and Dorothy don't have any friends and I'm sure there family didn't just have $22,000 to hand over. Come on Snyders get real!! We don't believe any of your lies, try another one! I would like to see others get by without paying child support like David does. I feel sorry for his children and thank God they live in Texas so they don't have to go through the embarrassement of having him for a worthless father. David will pay dearly someday, when he meets his maker!! He won't buy his lies and He does know the truth! Can I have that judges home phone number incase I need it late at night???????

Posted by: Byron Lord Location: Deep Space on Sep 24, 2007 at 09:05 PM
We Americans sure enough can dish it out but when comes to taking a little ... after all, sorry stuff like this has been going on every day in Iraq, for years. .... Please join me in praying God grant we may all live to see Congress name a national Day of Atonement for the evils done, in our once honorable name.

Posted by: Wayne Location: Auckland New Zealand on Sep 24, 2007 at 08:38 PM
The joys of American Law & Order. Thank God David didn't crawl on the ground too quickly. I'm sure he would have been shot trying to escape capture. And Americans wonder why their country is going down the drain. I think the officer must follow the George Bush version of politics. Beat the hell out of you and then ask questions later.

Posted by: Rich Location: OH on Sep 24, 2007 at 07:36 PM
Does anybody know what is happening because of all of this? I would definitely expect the police officers in this video would be terminated if not put up on charges. If nothing at all is being accomplished, I suggest a protest/rally in Roseland to have these guys thrown out... better yet, put in a whole new police force. What kind of chief would sit around and let this kind of behavior take place?

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 24, 2007 at 06:11 PM
Dear Disgusted: If you are brandishing a weapon and one of these officers stop you, you are REQUIRED to advise the officer you 1.) Are carrying a concealed weapon 2.) Follow his instructions EXPLICITLY regarding your motion, demeanor, etc. 3.) Only when advised to do so, SHOW him your permit to carry concealed. Anything other than that, and you COULD VERY WELL BE SHOT AND KILLED BY AN OFFICER DOING HIS "DUTY TO PROTECT AND SERVE". Get it now?? I hope so.

Posted by: Skippy Location: Illinois on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:49 PM
Whats up with the lady in the yellow shirt taking pictures and tormenting Snyder?

Posted by: Teresa Location: Pinellas County, FL on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:46 PM
I am going to forward this information to everyone I possibly can: that so-called "law" official needs to be brought up on police brutality charges. He needs to go to jail, for what he did to that councilman. This is simply an atrocious abuse of power. I'll be sure to never visit Roseland, IN, if this is the way the cops treat innocent citizens. Simply disgusting. He gives law officers a bad name, and is a disgrace to the uniform.

Posted by: Mark Location: Colorado on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:43 PM
I just saw the video where the Jack (the officer who commits brutality) said the guy hit him. What a crock of crap. He's clearly a liar. The man was carring a camera and folders, was 2 steps out the door the beat up. If the officer gets away with this there is truely no hope for Americian citizens. This officer and the police office he works for should be investigated for this clear cover up. The country is watching. Will Indiana do the right thing?

Posted by: Mark Location: Colorado on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:33 PM
Has the officer been charged and fired yet? Your town looks OUT of CONTROL. Will this town have the courage to do the right thing? Please do a follow up story so the rest of the country can see how this has been handled. Can a small town even afford the MILLIONS this man desirves for this brutality! I hope he sues the hell out of ROSELAND, INDIANA. I will NEVER visit ROSELAND,INDIANA or state of INDIANA after seeing that! What is the Governor response to this Police Brutality?

Posted by: Stan Location: Salt Lake City on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:03 PM
So what is section 3.11? Who was correct on the point of order. I wonder what Mr. Snyder said to Officer Tiller that cause him to attack Mr. Snyder. It does not really matter though. The officer was clearly way out of line.

Posted by: I.P. Knightly Location: lapaz on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:02 PM
GREAT JOB TILLER!!!! Thats what i say. He took the combative male into custody, just like he is paid to do. Its just to bad that he only makes minimum wage to do his job. Just the fact that Tiller and the rest of the department is still there, should show that they care about the community. Im sure Tiller has a family,and i am sure it is hard to raise a family on minimum wage. Again, I say GREAT JOB TILLER!!!

Posted by: Paul Location: San Antonio, TX on Sep 24, 2007 at 04:16 PM
These cops are awful. And there REALLY IS NOTHING we can to about it. We have NO control. however, i have been told i can call my congressmen.

Posted by: Mike Location: Wardley on Sep 24, 2007 at 02:52 PM
This looks very bad, is this how we expect police to behave, is this how they really do behave. I have little or no experience to base my opinion on about poice violence? Maybe we should rethink and should I start believing what the black youth is saying about the police violence...

Posted by: Eric Location: Northern, CA on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:32 PM
I am a police officer myself and I am ashamed to be in the same profession. Not only should Jack be harshly punished, but the other officers as well. Snyder should sue sue sue, he has more than enough grounds. Officers like these give such a bad reputation for the rest.

Posted by: Jonathan Virtue Location: Toronto, Ontario on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:12 PM
This is insane. Some kind of joke. What kind of place is this? Those cops, all of them, need to be fired, fined, make a public apology, and never allowed in public affairs again.

Posted by: Rodney Location: Roseland on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:10 PM
I hope Tiller tries that gorilla tactic on someone who IS a danger, and not a normal citizen. Tiller is pbviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but thats no excuse. If he isn't sued and/or fired, there is no justice.

Posted by: DISGUSTED IN Location: ROSELAND on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:00 PM
I GUESS IT'S TIME TO GET A CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT TO PROTECT MYSELF FROM THE "POLICE"!

Posted by: Matt Location: Canada on Sep 24, 2007 at 12:57 PM
I see several questionable instances in this video. First is fact the man would not let him talk, I thought America had freedom of speech. This seems to be rare nowadays. He didn’t like what he was saying and abused his power to evict the man (who was leaving peacefully with his comments). Then the police officer unnecessarily forcefully removed the man from the building then assaulted him (I am surprised they didn’t tase him). It’s funny because he called him a bully and he did exactly that. What is this showing our children? Is this being investigated by IA? This police officer and council member should lose their jobs. The crowd is shameful too, "did you trip and fall". I hope the victim sues the city. They won’t be laughing when their tax dollars go into the victim’s pocket. Maybe they will keep their mouth shut. The video speaks volumes in this incident. What are the charges and do they merit federal charges? Seems like abuse of power (not to mention assault on an unarmed man).

Posted by: Terry Location: Fort Worth Texas on Sep 24, 2007 at 12:29 PM
I don’t care what the cop said this man did, to watch him calmly walk out of site of the camera with both arms & hands full carring stuff and then end up getting a beating from a cop doesn’t pass the smell test. And since when do cops get to hold you face down and with a fist beat you about the head & shoulders with no consequences for having done so? Can you say police brutality? I can and do on this. This comment doesn’t come from a guy with a problem with the police dept, I love these men & women they for the most part make safe life in America possible. Hats off to all honest cops everywhere.

Posted by: Charles Location: Norway on Sep 24, 2007 at 12:16 PM
From outside us looks more and more like a zoo.

Posted by: don Location: denver on Sep 24, 2007 at 12:07 PM
The Fascist state is here to stay...Why? Just look at the people standing around as a man is ASSAULTED by an officer of the law, and not one "concerned citizen" did a thing. The officer should have been ARRESTED and taken into citizen custody until the FBI arrived. Then prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Posted by: GBratton Location: Fort Collins, CO on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:58 AM
How could anyone believe that this isn't a clear case of police brutality? The cop should lose his job and do jail time, the other cop who stood there and did nothing should be reprimanded and David Snyder should win a civil suit against the town of Roseland for a large sum of money. The fact that some people in the group were cheering this beating on is absolutely disgusting. It makes sick to hear their comments.

Posted by: Sean Location: CT on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:57 AM
AJ...I don't care who has met Jack Tiller. That animal belongs in a cage.

Posted by: Wren Location: Canada on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:54 AM
I don't care what Mr. Snyder has done in the past...he did not deserve to be beaten by a small-minded cop...that fat dude that started it all should have been arrested too...seems like town council in Roseland is all about who you know...Officer Tiller had some personal issues with David and for that alone, he should be reprimanded...for taunting him about tripping and such, I saw Jack push him as they were leaving council...that plug won't work but ya got a free adrealine rush didn't you, good ole boy!! You know your a redneck when, your town council acts like it...won't be visiting your hole, folks there cannot be trusted to stand up for truth and justice! Shame on you all! Peace!

Posted by: Ofc. Idiot Resign Please Location: Far way from there on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Having managed a unit from a major police department for 27 years. I am dumbfounded as to why these officers allowed themselves to become so politically involved in such childish behavior. Who's running that state, you all are despicable and should be ashamed. I only see a civil rights violation and jail time for the officers. I also see at least 36 mos of Federal time for them. Poor you, next time don't take it personally. Thanks for embarrassing us.

Posted by: Dan Location: Colorado on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:41 AM
This whole town is full of white trash. Everyone seems to be very rude and angry. That waste of space Jack Tiller should not only be fired, but prosecuted and put in jail for felony assault. Oh, but he gets off without any grief because they live in a redneck hodump trailer community.

Posted by: george Location: maine on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:27 AM
If that cop doesn't get arrested for assult than laws just don't work and everyone needs to start carring a loaded gun. NRA style. that cop is worse that a lot of criminals. he should at least have his badge taken away and hopefully be sent to jail for a long time. thats where violent people should be. SEND THAT COP TO PRISON! serve and protect not attack and subdue.

Posted by: Jim Location: CT on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Very clear that the officer used way too much force. You can see the reflection of the conflict (the officer pushing the council member down the hall and out the glass door) in the window in the hallway. Aside from the council member turning to look back in the room and make a comment to the police officer at the first doorway, there is no resisting on his part. All charges against the council member should be dropped. The police officer should be suspended without pay for quite some time. The council member should bring a suit against the town, the police and the officer.

Posted by: Sickening Location: Sydney on Sep 24, 2007 at 10:35 AM
The police officer should be prosecuted for aggravated assault and jailed. This is entirely unacceptable. This is pure police brutality. There should be protests outside the police station and DA's office.

Posted by: Rob W. Location: Delaware on Sep 24, 2007 at 10:12 AM
I think that Snyder has grounds for a stellar civil suit on his has -- that police force of 4 is about to be reduced by 1.

Posted by: ElGringo Location: Spain on Sep 24, 2007 at 10:09 AM
This is how Spanish police used to act under Dictator Franco and how police forces still act in countries around the world with similar oppressive regimes. Americans have this unhealthy obsession that cops are God-like creatures who are ALWAYS right.The fact that Mr Snyder has been charged, despite the avalanche of evidence in defense of Mr Snyder in this video alone, indicates that there is something intrinsically wrong in this US police system. Wake up people, when your police is acting like the Gestapo used to act under Hitler, your democracy is become more and more like a police-state!

Posted by: Nickdangerpi Location: Florida on Sep 24, 2007 at 09:27 AM
Bullies with Badges. How can this officer claim that Snyder hit him in the hall? Both of Snyder's hands were full as he was pushed face first into the door. Watch the tape and the reflection in the glass to the right. I don't know Snyder's history, but it doesn't matter..."if" he is the biggest jerk in town, it doesn't give the officer the right to do what he did.He is supposed to uphold the law that he swore to do. He should be fired. There's no telling what he does with the camera off.

Posted by: US going downhill Location: a safe distance on Sep 24, 2007 at 08:51 AM
I have a question. Someone on the recording says that Snyder was somehow responsible for her father getting injured, "almost killed". Does anyone know what this is referring to? Answer below or email me, thanks

Ted Penn accused Snyder of beating him up at town hall. -WNDU.com


Posted by: justice Location: England UK on Sep 24, 2007 at 08:22 AM
Just noticed the poll has gone down to 28% belive it was justified. A few days ago it was a whopping 50%. Disturbing town indeed. The people in the video seemed to be like a street gang, and they are supposed to be council members. Wonder who much property value has gone down in that town.

Posted by: Justice Location: England UK on Sep 24, 2007 at 07:58 AM
Are you kidding me!!!! What a disgrace. As mentioned previously, not only the thug who was assaulting the guy on the floor needs his job terminated, also the officers standing around watching do to. A utter disgrace. And also they are still charging the guy with a offence and he has to appear in court??? are you kidding me!! Never seen anything like it. SHOCKING

Posted by: Marty Location: Ill on Sep 24, 2007 at 06:03 AM
that cop should be sitting in jail... or worse.

Posted by: Devon Location: California on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:07 AM
Clearly you can see that David Snyder was not resisting arrest. Notice his body language, even his hands are down not up protecting or preparing for an elbow to be thrown. He turns to the comment of Goodbye Hitler, and then is pushed out of the doors. Examine the shadows of the video, you can not even throw a punch in that posture the angle is not right. However this Peace Officer, has a good angle and takes it with full force. This Marshal ought to be ashamed of himself. Examine closer the demenor of the older councilman, he was more worked up then David Snyder was, he willingly left. Snyder had nothing against the officer, so this doesnt make sense. This is clearly a case of an officer taking advantage of a hallway and situation to abuse his authority.

Posted by: Steve Location: Greensboro, NC on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:50 AM
It surely looks like this a clear cut case of police brutality. Some here may know these cops but it is my hope that they get a serious beat down. Karma comes back to get you.

Posted by: Robert Location: Texas on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:33 AM
Yes Snyder and his wife are a joke... BUT I can look at a video like this unbiased and see that he will have an easy lawsuit on his hands and that the officer will probably be dismissed if precedent is followed. ps. I really enjoyed the trashy women wanting the cops to keep hitting him. thanks !

Posted by: john Location: usa on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:09 AM
thank god it wasnt a black person or this would be world news

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 24, 2007 at 12:46 AM
Officers are going to be the ones who create more violence against them. Then need to watch what they do, i am begining to be very afraid of what they are being allowed to do as well as get away with,and if i get backed in a corner far enough there is nothing i can do but strike back! There will be violence against officers if things like this continue to occur!!!!

Posted by: Posted by Location: Location on Sep 24, 2007 at 12:38 AM
The State of Indiana, IN and Indiana with a zip code after it, are trademarks of a CORPORATION (not to be confused with Indiana the state). Cops have NO obligation to protect the lives and property of the citizens; they are there to enforce the codes and statutes($) of the CORPORATION.

Posted by: Bad cop no donut Location: CT on Sep 24, 2007 at 12:21 AM
come on you can clearly see that Snyder assaults the cop with his back as he goes through the door, and while on the ground when the cop is sitting on him he clearly assaults the cops fist repeatedly with his head and face.

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Posted by: kilo Location: california on Sep 23, 2007 at 07:15 PM
there is not a reason in the world that can justify the police officer's behavior. The police are the ones being paid to protect and serve not act like some violent thugs.

Posted by: Bill Location: Ottawa on Sep 23, 2007 at 05:49 PM
I can't find this anywhere, it's been pulled from youtube after complaints by wndu, and it does not seem to be anywhere on their site. Where is it WNDU? As you know without the video this incident will just "go away". Is that what you want?

The videos are listed just below the headline in this article. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Bill Location: Ohio on Sep 23, 2007 at 05:06 PM
I don't care what this guy did in the past for those people to hate him. The bottom line is, the video clearly shows police brutality at it's finest. This man was not resisting anything in the least. Not only did the officer slam him through a glass door, he punched a man in the head repeatedly who was laid down flat on the ground like he had something against him. For the other police officers to stand by and let this happen makes them just as guilty. Once again, it doesn't matter what this man did for people to hate him, this video shows men in authority abusing their powers. This town needs a whole new police force on hand and the officers in question need to be terminated and in my opinion put on trial. I would personally like to see that police officer thrown to the ground. In my opinion that would be justice.

Posted by: Nancy Location: South Bend on Sep 23, 2007 at 02:55 PM
How come I keep getting the feeling that Marie of Roseland is really Dorothy???

Posted by: jon colwill Location: somerset england on Sep 23, 2007 at 02:29 PM
clearly that was excessive force punching someone to the head like that when their down and not trying to fight you, and you have other policemen close by and your armed is going to far . looks like the action of a bully and not the sort of person that should be a policeman

Posted by: Marie Location: Roseland on Sep 23, 2007 at 09:48 AM
To Gene - Roseland **The world** now knows what Tiller did and that Penn lied about it and how others (I think you know their names if you are actually in Roseland) were in on the whole thing. If you support police brutality, I say that you are wiping your feet with our American flag which stands for freedom of speach, constitutional law and the right for peaceful government. Google David Snyder and you will see that Penn and Tiller have caused Roseland a black-eye for this attack on Snyder around the world, that even Penn /Tiller /Shields /Lipsky can not lie away as they have done in the past. If you believed what they said about the Snyders in the past, even you should see that it was all self serving lies now. Next foot fall will be prosecution, even Dvorak can not prevent it, or Dvorak will be the Nifong of Indiana - if he is not already there.

Posted by: jeff Location: indiana on Sep 23, 2007 at 09:06 AM
The beating was unnessasary even though he is the most hated and crooked politician in the area. How does he keep his seat?

Posted by: Heather Location: Charlotte, NC on Sep 23, 2007 at 05:41 AM
Wow people, just because you don't like someone its okay to beat the hell out of them? Well golly gee can't wait to sic the police of Roseland on those I can't stand. There are so many post on here about what type of man Snyder is - not the point. The situation was in no way out of control and the officer took the option of abuse. Yes sounds like Snyder is a low-life but don't recall any laws that allow police brutality for being a sleeze.

Posted by: Cyndy Location: Alabama on Sep 23, 2007 at 04:22 AM
http://www.in.gov/gov/2310.htm Phone 317 232 4567 This is the site to email a message to Mitch Daniels, the governor of In. I feel that if he hears from everyone around the world, maybe Tiller and the DA will have to answer to someone. And for those locals that keep tellin us"not your business" Sorry, your wrong.Abuse of another is everyone's business.Not to mention, the way so many of you concern yourselves with Snyder's childsupport...now, that really is "NOT YOUR BUSINESS."As for Penn, the townhall liar,If I understood correctly, he and Snyder have a court date of their own.This raw video makes great evidence that Penn is a liar.As for his daughter,I believe she was the voice heard saying something about utube.Her wish has been granted. How does she like being the joke of cyberspace? I urge everyone to email the governor.And I thank WNDU for being brave enough to stay with this. The networks should learn from you.

Posted by: Bill Location: Utah on Sep 23, 2007 at 03:18 AM
Regardless of how disliked this man may be by certain factions of the community, regardless of how much he supposedly owes in child support, regardless of any other weak justification that can be created in the minds of the pacifist sheeple who shamelessly watched him be beaten at the hands of an overzealous brute masquerading as a law enforcement officer; as a free citizen who offered no physical threat or non-compliance to the marshall, David Snyder had the RIGHT to not be brutalized. That marshall deserves to be an ex-marshall serving time in the state prison system for felonious assault and the town council and police superiors who tolerated his previous brutalities should be forced to pay for the lawsuit Snyder will undoubtedly win, rather than the taxpayers of Roseland.

Posted by: Bob Location: Indianapolis on Sep 23, 2007 at 12:45 AM
This is how things work at ground level as shown. Unfortunately, people can't "handle the truth". This reminds me of a rich dude in my hometown who screwed the people over and ended up shot dead in his office by some wife he knocked up (tried to take her and her husband's house in a lawsuit after her husband punched him). This guy is playin hard and smart. Cop was gutsy to do real in broad daylight. Do the crime as they say... But it sounds like this guy had it coming. Fair enough (at this level of game). But be careful. Punches are light in overall weight. Pushes are worse. But there are much worse things, even than guns.

Posted by: Roger Location: Houston, Texas on Sep 23, 2007 at 12:40 AM
This is why I hate cops. They go beyond and above the law to there blank blank advantage. If that SOB cop had hit my dad like that it would have been hell to pay. You get the these dam rookie cops and others that think with a feeble small little brain. The problem is everyone stands by the side like cowards and fell threated by the big fat cop donut eating don't have any real nuts hot shot. Also the cops in my city spend more time writing tickets for speeders than ridding our street of all the low -life hoodlums that rob steal, kill, and not have one single care in the world for anyones life. We have been having to put with these New Orleans trashy evacuees that have disgraced this once aspiring town we call Houston. We need to get rid of them and all crooked cops as well.

Posted by: Kevin Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2007 at 11:41 PM
The only way forward in Roseland is through a surge of South Bend troops of about 30,000 until January. Only then can South Bend begin to drawdown its troops in Roseland. The new Roseland police force is corrupt and being overrun by the anti-Snyder militia, and their leader Charlie al-Sheilds, who is diverting the flow of traffic and turning it into revenue in the form of Roseland speeding tickets. South Bend's new commander General Weis is a good leader, but who can blame him for having no military accomplishments so far this campaign when the neighboring province of Roseland is on the brink of civil war. Some have suggested dividing Roseland into three parts with the Snyder's in the north, Penn's in the south, and Schield's in the middle occupying the capital (King Gyros). But this solution is not enough. There must also be a governing council in place to split Roseland's powerful source of revenue, speeders on 31.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Los Angeles on Sep 22, 2007 at 11:19 PM
All you law officials, law enforcers and frozen stand biers, truly make me sick.

Posted by: Steve Location: Walker, Louisiana on Sep 22, 2007 at 10:40 PM
Wow, I am glad I live down here in Redneckistan where this kind of police behavior was done away with years ago. When are you Yankees going to catch up with the South? This is just another shining example of the "Superior Northern Educational System". NOT!

Posted by: gene Location: roseland on Sep 22, 2007 at 09:55 PM
Whats the big deal here anyways. All these negative posts about Tiler must be repeat posters(snyders) or cop haters. The town itself is elated that the czar himself was given a taste of his own medicine. The rest of this board should go mind thier own lifes. Where was anyone when help was needed in town? I assume they were hidding under the bed afraid of the Snyders . This board is a rigged JOKE!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2007 at 09:14 PM
Posted by: Glen Location: Feel safe in Roseland Word in roseland is that the Town has recieved over $6000 in private donations to support the Roseland Police payroll after the Dave Snyder arrest incident. Where Do I send my donation?? hey glen is that like the $1000 for gas Tedd Penn collected that both the clerk-treasurer and the gas station say is more like $100?! Watch the lies!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2007 at 08:45 PM
ummm... Posted by: A Location: Friend What you don't know is that this guy also beat up and elderly man half his size and is hated by almost everyone in his community. And is reported to be almost $100,000 behind in child support. That's why people didn't do anything to stop it. he's alleged to have beaten Ted Penn and the only witnesses are Tedd Penn (the Lie maker here) and David Snyder, after this video I know who i would believe....

Posted by: Joseph Location: Illinois on Sep 22, 2007 at 07:51 PM
My impression from afar is that the Snyders are creeps who "bring out the worst in everyone" as the old man said. That so many people in Roseland dislike the Snyders, it must be for some good reason, a reason that the citizens of Roseland are not capable of articulating. My guess is that the Snyder's are trying to change the town, but the town does not want to be changed. And rightfully so, change is usually for the worse in America. My guess is that the Snyders would somehow profit from the change. The cop has to go down but it's a shame because Snyder looks the type that would provoke a response for the sake of publicity.

Posted by: Jerry Location: New Jersey on Sep 22, 2007 at 07:24 PM
This is disgusting Fascism, nothing less. What is most disgusting is seeing the bystanders watch it happen and not have the minimum decency of shouting, "Stop hitting him!!". I hope this officer Tiller goes to prison, get sued to oblivion, and gets afterlife in Hell for abuse of power and brutality. All of the of mum bystanders should rot in Hell to. The rest of us sorry citizens have to deal with Fascism here in the U.S.

Posted by: Osama Location: Iraq on Sep 22, 2007 at 06:35 PM
You stupid Americans, your police force runs your country with iron fists and Tasers while you all sit around eating hamburgers. Keep looking the other way people nothing to see here, all is well in America, until it's your turn to be cop bashed.

Posted by: William Location: Berkshire, England on Sep 22, 2007 at 05:22 PM
If this is how the police conduct their business in Indiana then it is enough of a reason for me to stay as far away from the place as possible. The officer involved is nothing more than a thug and a bully in a uniform. I trust and hope that the right action will be taken and that the officer involved will be severely punished for his disgraceful actions and behaviour.

Posted by: Marie Location: Roseland on Sep 22, 2007 at 04:49 PM
Jack Tiller History lesson.... Roseland officer under investigation 2000-09-28 10:13:59-05 The conduct of Jack Tiller RPD is ***once again*** the subject of an investigation by the St. Joseph County Prosecutor. In the latest case, a RPD officer allegedly choked a suspect while the suspect was handcuffed. The Roseland PD did its own investigation, which cleared the officer of any wrongdoing. However, the allegations of brutality are largely based on the statements from another officer from SJCPD who was on the scene that night..... And then Tiller was still a Roseland Police officer on September 14, 2007

Posted by: CORRUPT Location: ROSELAND on Sep 22, 2007 at 02:10 PM
JUST THINK OF WHAT WILL BE IF TILLER IS NOT CHARGED WITH ANY CRIMES. HE WILL BE A LOOSE CANNON IN THAT CITY!

Posted by: Kevin Location: Greenville on Sep 22, 2007 at 02:04 PM
Posted by: Andre Location: Las Vegas "What is wrong with the american people! Years ago If this type of abuse was caught on tape thier would be a huge uproar." The reason there isn't an uproar is that the victim is white. If he was any other race it would be all over the news

Posted by: jesse Location: connecticut on Sep 22, 2007 at 01:20 PM
first of all, snyder was not complaining that he was only given a minute to speak; shields denied him unrestricted access to the floor at all, even after granting him the floor. second of all, it makes me sick to see everybody stand around as the cop wails on him, with the twisted and demented mentality of 'this is above us, just stand back and let it happen'. disgusting.

Posted by: Chad Location: Corpus Christi, Texas on Sep 22, 2007 at 01:18 PM
how could Mr. Snyder have thrown a punch at the officer, who in no way deserves a badge, when he had a camera and tripod in hand. it clearly shows the cop touching Snyder first which if im not mistaken is battery. then when is it ever right to punch a person who is not being violent and lying on their stomach. it is clearly police brutality and i feel that the officers involved should be suspended without pay for their actions. regardless of what Snyder said there is no reason for him to be punched repeatedly in the face by a police officer of all people. WAKE UP PEOPLE. when is it ever right for the police to act like this? you always have to remember that cops are there to serve us. we pay them with our tax money. we are moving more and more into a police state. half the time they dont know the real reason a person protests and at the end of the day its just a job for the cop, he'd rather be at home watching tv. make sense?

Posted by: Daneil Location: New York on Sep 22, 2007 at 12:11 PM
People all over the world are watching this. Unfortunately it's a scar on the face of Indiana. Why would anyone want to stop and spend their money there? How could anyone not fear getting pulled over there? The police would do well to save face by issuing a public apology and discipling the officer immediately.

Posted by: A Location: Friend on Sep 22, 2007 at 12:07 PM
What you don't know is that this guy also beat up and elderly man half his size and is hated by almost everyone in his community. And is reported to be almost $100,000 behind in child support. That's why people didn't do anything to stop it.

Posted by: Jon Location: Georgia on Sep 22, 2007 at 11:56 AM
Roseland is in America? Where is the Internal Affairs? Where is the Mayor? Where is a prosecutor with half a brain? I am an ex-cop myself and would love to defened a brother in uniform but this guy is just another criminal in blue. This entire city is a disgrace to us all as Americans! I did not see much said about the other police officer that stood by and let this happen. Shame on you to Sir!!! You had an obligation to help the needy and you failed him! Every American, victim or suspect has the right to safety and protection from those who may want to harm them. You also should be fired and should feel guilt and shame as long as you should live! Both of these officers are a part of the reason no one feels they can trust their local police. I just hope everyone can see that most cops and most cities actually care for the people they serve! To the Roseland prosecutors office.. DO YOUR DUTY FOR THE PEOPLE!!!

Posted by: D.D. Location: Indiana on Sep 22, 2007 at 11:50 AM
If YOU were elected to be on the council and all other council members had unlimited time but you were given a minute, wouldn't you say something about that? Aren't the police paid to defend and protect and o SERVE the people? Seems like Mayors are getting the protection now days and the public (who pays the salaries) are being attacked instead. This should make every american angry because we elect people who take an oath to defend the constitution and our rights that it protects, and THEY (the elected) gets the protection, servitude, etc... of the police while WE get attacked as we're being herded like sheep out of the way because apparently freedom of speech annoys some people. If annoyance was a crime, most all americans would be in jail. It's time to wake up... Roseland is just one of many recent examples. People should be heroes and protect the elected council member's right to speak out about the abuse in that town, since the police won't.

Posted by: Billy Location: NYC on Sep 22, 2007 at 11:03 AM
FYI This story is now international. I have seen it linked on several European and Asian newsites. Roseland is now known the world over.

Posted by: Ron on Sep 22, 2007 at 06:19 AM
I will never, ever, ever say anything bad about the Cranford or Garwood NJ Police Depts ever again. Even if the the guy did throw a punch (which I don't beleive) there would be no reason to take him down and continue to punch him in the face. Cops are human, you get a bad apple here and there, the scary thing is the other cop who stood there and just watched the show.

Posted by: Andre Location: Las Vegas on Sep 22, 2007 at 06:00 AM
What is wrong with the american people! Years ago If this type of abuse was caught on tape thier would be a huge uproar. This type of police abuse affects us all. Americans are sick and tired of this abuse, its time for all Americans to stand up and do something.

Posted by: Seattle Location: Washington on Sep 22, 2007 at 03:02 AM
Its been one week since Tiller commited felony assault on Snyder. Why hasn't any charges been filed? I have lost all faith in cops and the "Justice System"!

Posted by: Tim Location: Mary Esther, Fl on Sep 22, 2007 at 02:57 AM
I agree that Tiller was wrong and from what I saw should be terminated, but it appears Roseland has more problems than one police officer. The citizens and the council were just as il-tempered as Tiller... it appeared to be a mob rather than a budget meeting. If you read a little about Roseland, the cops make a little over minimum wage.... the good ones will find another job... you get what you pay for. I also disagree with the gentlemanm that says police brutality is in epedimic proportions. You cannot gauge your opinion on a few videos you see on TV or the internet because the millions of times cops change people's tires or do the right thing is NOT newsworthy and you will not see it. Finally, the TASER is a tool and it is very effective at reducing injuries both to suspects and officers. Abuse of the tool is just that....just as if he had shot someone. If you watched a few videos of cops/military improperly shooting people would you ban police and military from having firearms?

Posted by: Nic Location: Los Angeles on Sep 22, 2007 at 02:40 AM
I hope that cop is charged with battery, which it was, and the city ends up paying big for hiring him. I am SO glad that was all on tape. I know none of these people, but it is clear to me that Snyder was well-behaved all the way through the tape. The only other person who should not be ashamed of his behavior is the person holding the camera. What a bunch of morons. Bet they all voted for Bush.

Posted by: Nick Location: Vincennes, IN. on Sep 22, 2007 at 01:46 AM
I watched all the videos as did you, and it is obvious because of the reflection in the window that the officer pushed the councilman out the door and that the councilman did NOT fight back. Jack Tiller and Ted Penn are obviously either delusional or liars. Looks to me like they have a very corrupt "good ole boy" system in place up there. I'll not be visiting that corrupt little town anytime soon!

Posted by: Bill Location: Dallas on Sep 22, 2007 at 01:34 AM
What a poor excuse Jack is for a officer of the law. He gives police officers a bad name. He would never make it in a big city where officers deal with real criminals everyday, if one older man can get him upset to the point of commiting a battery and wrongful arrest. Jack, I hope you lose your job and serve time for your crime.

Posted by: Angry D Location: WA state on Sep 22, 2007 at 01:25 AM
To all you ignorant little shills defending the conduct of the officer in this case. Are you truly so un-educated as to believe that this sort of thing is 'ok' based on the past conduct, legal and illegal, of this Snyder character? IT IS IRRELEVANT. LOOK AT THE REFLECTION--THERE WAS NO RESISTING, NO FIGHTING BACK. This man was assualted, pure and simple. "Oh, he had it coming." "Welp, shouldn't resist the cops, ahyuh!" "Darn that snake Snyder!" GIVE ME A BREAK! All you fools defending the cop are so dumbed down it is breathtaking. You obviously know little about the law and less about the constitution. You don't deserve the freedoms you have.

Posted by: kevin Location: chicago on Sep 22, 2007 at 12:53 AM
what a wonderful little town. roseland, where dreams go to die

Posted by: Jay Location: Montreal on Sep 22, 2007 at 12:42 AM
Fact: Tiller the cop ATTACKED an innocent person. Aren't cops supposed to protect people ?!? What would have happened to Mr.Snyder if he had attacked a police officer ? He would have gone straight to jail. Well the same thing should happen to this out of control brainless cop. Isn't it simple ? I mean the situation isn't complicated here it's all on tape. Tiller you are GUILTY of assault and you have been caught on tape. I hope this psycho cop will go to jail, actually if there is a shred of justice left in this decimated country, he will ... Oh and by the way, the U.S is now a Police State wake up please.

Posted by: Nic Location: Nashville on Sep 22, 2007 at 12:40 AM
At what point are we going to get our act together? Accountability is a core requirement for a civilized society. I am as ever in bewildered awe of how a situation like this can occur. We have murderers walking free, child molesters living next to schools, and known rapists on the loose...yet the authorities feel the need to beat this man pretty severely for a disagreement during a town meeting. How about the police put some of their testosterone to a good use...say, stopping actual crimes, murders, etc. I am appalled that the other cops watched this...were this my precinct not a single one of them would have a job as a law enforcer ever again.

Posted by: Stephen P Location: Valley Village on Sep 21, 2007 at 11:11 PM
That cop should lose his badge. Even if provoked a cop shouldn't of attacked unless physical harm was threatening him.

Posted by: Tom Location: Carmel IND on Sep 21, 2007 at 10:40 PM
Mr. Penn’s statements were perhaps made in haste and his adrenalin was flowing after the scuffle, I noticed a bystander’s voice said in handcuffs and Mr. Penn agreed immediately and built on that, perhaps it’s what he wanted to see in his mind, but not what actually happened after he reviewed the tape. I am not sure he intentionally lied, because it was a very stressful situation for him at that time, however his views may have been clouded from previous bad blood with other council members

Posted by: Dr. Vertigous Location: Chicago on Sep 21, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Can you say ... Synderville? If you own property in Roseland expect your taxes to go wayyyy up to pay for the moron cop's actions. What a dolt ... and all is on camera ..here come the high priced lawyers and there goes the town's assets. Priceless.

Posted by: Tom Location: Detroit on Sep 21, 2007 at 10:08 PM
So let me get this straight. On August 26, Councilman Snyder suggested doing away with the entire Roseland Police force because of budget problems. Instead, council votes to temporarily decrease the officers pay to six dollars an hour. In return, Snyder gets beaten by the town Marshall. Tiller may not be able to spell retaliation, but hopefully the D.A. does.

Posted by: Dorothy Location: Roseland on Sep 21, 2007 at 09:46 PM
Did David really deserve that beating? Maybe..Was it excessive? Who cares it was Snyder.. I could run a town better than that Teddy Penn any day. Just wait until next election Im running for office!!!!!!!!

Posted by: John Location: California on Sep 21, 2007 at 09:46 PM
Is anyone else as disturbed by the audience? That they all condoned blatant battery... boggles the mind. And some of these comments on this site, "LOL, SNYDER DESERVED IT! THE COP SHOULD HAVE KILLED HIM! HE HASN'T PAID CHILD SUPPORT!" Wow, Roseland. Wow.

Posted by: Admiral Location: Viet on Sep 21, 2007 at 08:23 PM
THIS IS DISGUSTING! America is a police state. This is a violation of the amendment that bans cruel and unusual punishment.

Posted by: Bob Location: Tucson, AZ on Sep 21, 2007 at 07:58 PM
The same police officer injured Mrs. Snyder while arresting her for possession of a camera. She will soon have surgery on her shoulder. Two assaults by Officer Jack Tiller on one family. Why isn't he being prosecuted instead of Mr. Snyder? The people of Roseland need to demand enforcement of the law and other changes. Having a badge is not a license to assault people.

Posted by: John Location: Pennsylvania on Sep 21, 2007 at 07:05 PM
Lock the rotten cop up. Personal grudges must not be tolerated when a cop is doing his duty or lack of doing it. I wonder if there was a budget issue related to reducing the police force! In Philly 4 people have been killed by cops this year. Another 6 or so actually had weapons. This is becoming epidemic in our country with all of the swat training and the cops being brain that any citizen can be the enemy.

Posted by: Karl Drew Location: Canada on Sep 21, 2007 at 07:01 PM
I cannot be believe the lies this Ted Penn tells. He is 100% false in his description of events. Watch the reflection in the glass of how the cop pushes Snyder through the door, Snyder never makes a move toward the cop, he is handcuffed. He does call the cop a bully and then gets shoved, knocked down and punched. Ted Penn then starts his lies. Who is this liar? He's your council representative?? I feel sorry for Roseland, Ted Penn and this cop have given you an enormous black eye. I will remember Roseland for its brutal cops and lying council members. Ted Penn should be ashamed of himself. Better yet, let the feds investigate this, that way he can continue lying to them and be charged with lying to a federal agent. Ted Penn should resign immediately, he is not fit to hold any office based on his deceptive description of events, truly shameful.

Posted by: Chris Location: Maryland on Sep 21, 2007 at 05:59 PM
This is a good time to show law enforcement that they work FOR the people and are not an entity amongst themselves. I hope Officer Jack Tilley loses his job and is charged with felony assault himself. The officers assisting him should all be charged with misdemeanor assault and with filing a false police report. The victim had packed up his belongings and was calmly walking out the door when he was forcefully pushed thru the glass door. Way beyond what is acceptable for an OFFICER OF THE LAW. Fire the officer!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Location: Tennessee on Sep 21, 2007 at 05:34 PM
Welcome to the new America, where many police officers, public servants think they are gods. These Roseland officers caught on tape are just lowly scum.

Posted by: George Location: London, England on Sep 21, 2007 at 05:32 PM
An absolute disgrace. The police department ought to be ashamed of itself. The officer launched himself at Snyder and effectively assaulted him before punching him again in the head AFTER he had the situation under full control. If that officer keeps his job then Roseland's Police Department will lose all credibility.

Posted by: Jim Location: Chicago on Sep 21, 2007 at 05:24 PM
Folks wake up. This is happening in epidemic proportions across the country. Cops and military (with terribly low IQ's) are being taught that "civilians" citizens are the enemy. Taser guns (why do we allow these fancy cattle prods which are torture devices) have killed and are used to make people in wheel charis and children submit. Folks we have checkpoints, cops beating citizens with impunity and the underlying theme that we are within the grasp of the police state. Folks do a bit of research to understand what it means to live in a police state - and I believe many will be shocked to learn that we are already there. Thousands upon thousands of cops, military and cameras, thousands of oppresive laws and to top it off with an ignorant dumbed down society that does not realize their perilous state. For crying out loud the communist chinese own our food supply and national debt. And former stazi members designed the Real ID Act. Wake up America! Our days are numbered.

Posted by: Adam Location: Little Rock, AR on Sep 21, 2007 at 04:52 PM
I hope Mr. Snyder OWNS that town when he is finished. I think some MAJOR investigations should go on. It bothers me how police "officers" have God complexes and more power than they should ever deserve. Suspended? Are you kidding me? I think this nation needs a serious reality check. Some of those people were like "everyone come back in and ignore it" basically....when someone needs help, WHO CARES IF THEY ARE POLICE, stand for what is right. But, they obviously just let Mr. Snyder get brutalized, which to me indicates fear in that community. And who gives a FLIP about that un-educated sounding woman and her father. That is irrelevant to the point in question...some people...I wish she would omit herself from this completely. That officer should be fired and charged with police brutality. The old white man at the table should be ashamed of his unprofessional attitude during the entire event. Remember: the government should be scared of its people. Not the other way around.

Posted by: Shelly Location: Warsaw on Sep 21, 2007 at 04:25 PM
If that’s how the council president conducts meetings, he should either immediately resign or at the very least step down from being president. He doesn’t know anything about Robert’s Rules or how to conduct a meeting at all. And he has the maturity level worse than my 6-year-old. The council president started the entire mess when he limited a COUNCIL MEMBER one minute to speak. Then a few seconds later he couldn’t even remember that he recognized Snyder. Then he blew his stack, resorted to cursing and name-calling and threw a fellow council member out of the meeting. It was like watching a group of little kids. And Ted Penn and his daughter, what a joke those two are. Ted Penn proved on the tape he is scum and a liar - and his daughter proved she’s the same. I’d be very upset and concerned if I lived in this place, that these clowns are actually making decisions concerning this town.

Posted by: Jean Location: C on Sep 21, 2007 at 04:20 PM
This a clear cut case of excessive force and police brutality. Whatever Mr Snyder said to the officer did not warrant his being forced through the door, pinned to the ground and pummeled by police officers. The most appalling thing is the fact the officers did this in broad daylight, in front of witnesses and no one intervened. The officer's swagger as he got off Mr Snyder's back sent shivers down my spine. That psychopath needs to be removed from his position as Police Officer immediately-before he kills in the name of "upholding" the law.

Posted by: Sam Location: Goshen on Sep 21, 2007 at 04:15 PM
Most of you have written great letters and I congratulate you. But for the handful of nutjobs who actually are defending Tiller, think about this. Snyder WASN’T EVEN BEING ARRESTED! He was just asked to leave a council meeting which he did immediately after being asked. He was headed HOME. There was no reason for Tiller to even be that close behind him to start with. All Tiller had to do was watch him leave. It was as if Tiller was WANTING there to be a confrontation. And even though Snyder was absolutely no physical threat to Tiller at all as it clearly shows on the tape (both of Snyder's hands were full of books and expensive camera equipment and he had his back turned), Tiller attacked him anyway. That’s as clear a case of police brutality as I’ve ever seen.

Posted by: Ryan Location: Co on Sep 21, 2007 at 03:09 PM
What a horrible and hateful town! Name-calling, insults, graffiti, corruption, assault, and lying; don’t you people have any respect for yourself? If the town allows the cop to continue representing the town then the people of Roseland disserve the pit they live in. The officer had no intention of keeping the peace and let his own feelings on the matter get the best of him. It is apparent that he can’t control himself and is a danger to society.

Posted by: Kim Location: Texas on Sep 21, 2007 at 03:02 PM
Police officers, please don't refer to citizens as civilians. If you don't know the difference, then please look it up!

Posted by: deborah Location: houston texas on Sep 21, 2007 at 02:58 PM
after watching all of the news coverage on the david snyder and the police brutallity that occurred against david snyder . I can honestly say I feel concern for the citizens of your town and I would not want to visit a town with such a facist government in place .Who's the real hitler here?

Posted by: Kay Location: Indiana on Sep 21, 2007 at 02:49 PM
Cpt. Holland, It has been insinuated that David Snyder and his father, Reverend Russell Snyder accosted Ted Penn. There are several articles about the incident The woman in the video was Ted Penn's daughter...

Posted by: Nathan Fluet Location: Phoenix, Arizona on Sep 21, 2007 at 02:45 PM
Jack Tiller is a bad cop, he assaulted Snyder as he turned his back to Tiller while both of Snyder's hands were full one with books the other with a camera, he proceeded to tackle Snyder and then punch him in the back of the head numerous times. Also someone apparently unaware that Tiller was caught on tape beating Snyder tryed to cover up the beating by asking Snyder if he tripped and fell. Then we have Ted Penn the man lied starting with saying that Snyder was handcuffed in the hallway, you can clearly see that he is handcuffed outside after the beating, not to mention that the video clearly shows Snyder up to the point that he is tackled by Tiller and he made no aggressive actions whatsoever.

Posted by: Tom Location: South Bend on Sep 21, 2007 at 01:51 PM
All you idiots that think Tiller did a good job should go to jail right behind him. What if he did it to you, or your son, or daughter? He was so obviously in the wrong its sick. Cops think they are above the law and think they can do whatever they want well I think its time to change that, and no time better then the present. Its to bad there are cops on the streets like this because they give all the good cops, and there are a lot of good cops a bad name. I can't stand the Snyder's and I am tired of hearing up the stupid town of Roseland, but Tiller was wrong and he should pay, otherwise he will do it to someone else, maybe those of you who think he did such a great job or you son or daughter. Put this animal (Tiller) where he belongs in a cage (jail)!

Posted by: Cpt. Holland Location: Fort Bragg, NC. on Sep 21, 2007 at 01:34 PM
This is the first time that I have even heard of Roseland, Indiana. I actually saw this video on ebaumsworld.com and grew interested in this whole story. I am very curious to find out what Mr. Snyder said to the officer that would make him assault him. I can see that there is a lot of bad blood in that community. But I really don't think Mr. Snyder deserved what he received from the officer. I hope that the officer was suspended pending an investigation on his conduct. And who is the lady that keeps talking about what he did to her father? What did Mr. Snyder do to her father? If someone could take a couple of minutes and e-mail to so I can understand the full story that would be greatly appreciated. Anyway, thank you all so much and have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Daniel Location: Location on Sep 21, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Dear forumn, I think this officer should be fired and charged with assualt and never allowed t wear a badge again. His actions were unlawful and without any excuse, we should never tolerate this kind of outrageous behavior on the part of our police, they work for us, we do not work for them. remember that folks.

Posted by: Mike Location: Pennsylvania on Sep 21, 2007 at 11:10 AM
I love the comments here: First, Ted Penn is obviously lying about "what he saw". All you need to do is watch the tape and while Snyder turns around and says something, the "officer" just goes beserk. Watch the video with Dorothy Snyder and after she gets into the car you hear someone go "WAH WAH WAH." That's nice. I have seen too many incidents of police brutality in the last few days that makes me wonder if I woke up in East Germany circa 1949. How can we even begin to export our values overseas when those individuals who are there to "SERVE AND PROTECT" commit acts of violence like this. The Constitution protects wise guys like Snyder in what they can say and against abuse from the government (local, state and federal). This cop is going to end up in jail and I wish him nothing but anguish and torment while he is there.

Posted by: Patrick Location: New Jersey on Sep 21, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Are all you people nuts? What happened to the the first amendment. Or do we live in a country where "Rent-a-cops" decide themselves what our rights should be. This is a national epidemic. Every Law abiding citizen, and defender of our civil rights should be holding video cameras at these cop-criminals. This should not be a reason to "cop-bash." They are all not like this. I have family members who are on the force, and they do not and never have acted like this. It's time in America to insist that all police matters be video-taped, and audio-recorded. If the police have nothing to hide, they would embrace this. If not they have something to hide, like maybe some serious anger issues.

Posted by: Matt Location: Howell, Michigan on Sep 21, 2007 at 10:35 AM
you can clearly see that the officer made the first move in this altercation, you can see in the reflection of the glass in the hallway that Mr. Snyder has his back to the officer, and is pushed by officer Tiller with both hands into the glass door. Clearly mr. Snyder did not hit the officer first, especially with his book and materials in one hand and his camera in the other and his back to the officer. Regardless of what Mr. Snyder has done in the past or said at that meeting there was no cause for this officer to Beat a defenseless person, he clearly wasn't resisting arrest when being hit repeatedly in the face after being slammed into the door face first. i would say in my opinion he was trying to get his faculties in order and asses what was happening to him.I would say Mr. Synder has a very strong case against the officer in question, especially after the officer already told the reporter that Mr. Snyder hit him first...gonna be hard to prove that one with the evidence at hand.

Posted by: Geno Location: Overland Park KS on Sep 21, 2007 at 10:35 AM
Yes, Mr. Snyder appears to be a pretty obnoxious guy. But there is no excuse for what that cop did. It is plain from the video that Snyder never attacked the officer. It is also clear that Mr. Penn is a pathological liar.

Posted by: Lee Location: Pennsylvania on Sep 21, 2007 at 10:30 AM
Disgusting display. The first forceful contact comes from the officer's right hand shoving the Snyder when it's believed they are out the meeting room door. The reflection picks up from that point -- no sign of ANY resisting from Snyder. Shame on the people heard in the background asking sarcastically, "did you trip and fall?" Whatever the town's history with Snyder, it's irrelevant. He was leaving as asked (which itself is suspect) - his hands full of equipment. "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan." Proverbs 29:2 I hope those who were out of line will seek to make things right in a spirit of truthfulness.

Posted by: Steven Location: north carolina on Sep 21, 2007 at 09:16 AM
It is obvious from the woman talking that this person has a history of disruptive behavior and possibly some kind of assault. THAT BEING SAID. It is absolutely inappropriate and illegal what the cop did, if he can't maintain his mental state on the job he should be removed and get a job at a Jiffy Lube. Additionally the cops and on lookers are all accomplicies to assault if they did nothing to stop it or to report it. Even with the worst criminal it is NOT APPROPRIATE to take vengence on a person outside of the legal justice system. Anyone who thinks otherwise has seen too many Charles Bronson and "Walking Tall" movies.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 21, 2007 at 07:31 AM
I hope snyder takes all those redneck hillbillies to court and makes a bundle. That is total police brutality and in all actuality the cop should be in jail for assult.Snyder didnt do anything to the officer.The cop was just supposed to escort the man out.

Posted by: Colin Location: Denver, CO on Sep 21, 2007 at 02:34 AM
The video clearly shows Snyder had his hands full with a tripod in one hand and binder in the other. In no way did Snyder throw a punch at officer Tillman; he couldn't have thrown a punch effectively without dropping what he was holding and as the tape shows, that didn't happen. You also see in the video that Tillman mockingly asks, "Who hit you?" insinuating that no one would believe any claim of brutality. Unfortunately for him, his crime was documented by the news crew. Regardless of how much the townspeople hate Snyder, what happened to him was criminal. Police have no right to bully and brutalize unpopular citizens. We couldn't function as a free society if that were allowed! If Tillman isn't fired and imprisoned for first beating a Roseland citizen then lying about his crime, then it reflects poorly on the moral compass of Roseland and the integrity of the Indiana government.

Posted by: Kevin Location: Massachusetts on Sep 21, 2007 at 02:32 AM
As a former police officer I have to say whoa! This civilian was clearly pushed from behind. This is verified in the reflection in the glass. The cop should be fired and put up on charges as should the Chief who was there and the other officer who also did nothing to stop the illegal assault on this man. It does not matter whether or not you like the man, he did not deserve this beating by a coward police officer. To top it off the guy Snyder has both hands full, talk about a sucker shot. I hope he sues the town, the Chief, both Officers as well as any council member or "witness" who knowingly gave untruthful statements, ESPECIALLY that guy Penn. This town government should be ashamed of themselves for even trying to think David caused this, as for the "get him for my daddy" gal with the camera, there should be a town by-law created to ensure that she does not have any children, and if she does then Child Services should be called.

Posted by: Tom Location: Detroit on Sep 21, 2007 at 12:25 AM
This is what you get when you don't demand your officers have at least a 2-year college degree. You think I'm kidding, but most departments only require a high school education. The problem is obvious.

Posted by: Tom Location: South Bend on Sep 20, 2007 at 11:44 PM
So Dvorak thinks this is just going to disappear? His job will disappear should he not prosecute this maniac.

Posted by: Michael Location: Indiana on Sep 20, 2007 at 11:26 PM
That video DOES exactly show what Snyder said -- he said "ah the bully is back..." then wham, Jack Tiller rams him through the doors. There is no way that Snyder punched Jack with his back turned after he made the comment. And Ted Penn is obviously a liar about the incident--I found it curious that Ted Penn is the one that Snyder was in a fight with previously--sure would benefit Ted to be on the side of the cop on this one. Would a wonderful collection of people we have here!

Posted by: red Location: roseland on Sep 20, 2007 at 10:16 PM
now maybe people will understand that a lot of what has been said about people in roseland has been made up by the king liar (penn). by the way snyder's ex wife lives in a 3/4 million dollar home and makes $150,000 a year. this poor baby!

Posted by: Mike Location: Reading, PA on Sep 20, 2007 at 10:15 PM
I thought police training teaches officers to be above personal emotional responses to events which allows them to focus on the rule of law. If every officer took the law into their own hands based on their personal beliefs we would have anarchy. This officer has broken his oath and therefore his bond should be revoked which would in essence prevent him from future roles in government. Find out which insurance company holds the bond for that police department. Then file a huge claim. Watch what happens to Officer Tillman. By the way, if the DA doesn't file charges against Jack, you can go after his bond based on his "oath of office" as well.

Posted by: Brian Location: Chicago on Sep 20, 2007 at 08:55 PM
There must be more to the story. This was in a small town, most of the people in the video seemed to know each other. Perhaps there were some personal issues between David Snyder and Officer Tiller, but that does not give the officer the right push a man, violently, through a doorway onto the ground as that said man is walking out on his own after being asked to leave. I wasn't there, as Ted Penn was, but his story doesn't make sense. In the video, you can see the reflection of what happened on the glass display case. Yea, look again. Snyder went down real quick. I don't think he had time to respond to a raging, unprofessional cop shoving him. You cannot see anything resembling Snyder "resisting arrest". Tiller should have his badge taken away. Let him beat people up if that's his thing, but taxpayers should not and can not pay for this behavior "securing " their communities.

Posted by: Brandon Location: Ashland, Ohio on Sep 20, 2007 at 07:47 PM
Wow, Ted Penn is a lying peice of filth. He said Snyder was handcuffed and threw his elbow back at Tiller!? Tiller didn't handcuff him until he was done punching him. And if Snyder wasn't causing any real disruption, wouldn't the mayor trying to order him out be a violation of the seperation of powers?

Posted by: Fred Location: NC on Sep 20, 2007 at 07:28 PM
Privatize the police force!! It's the only way you'll put an end to this idiocy. Privatize everything, really. Do you really want these idiots deciding how your hard-earned money is spent while a goon with a low IQ lords over you? This is not how it used to work here. Read up on the founding fathers and the principles they used to set up this government. Government should be reduced to the smallest size possible. I believe that size is ZERO. Everthing from security to law to money can, and HAS, been provided on the free market. Get what you pay for, and pay only for the services you need/use. If you disagree, feel free to debate me and others on the mises. org blog. It's the largest economics based website on the net for good reason. Bigger than the govt's BLS and NBR sites. Get on the ball.

Posted by: Seattle Location: Washington on Sep 20, 2007 at 06:53 PM
Why isn't "officer" Tiller in jail? Doesn't this city have any laws? How about Penns lying? Doesn't he think anybody else saw the video? What a screwed up city! Here come the State Police! Go hide, you coward Tiller!

Posted by: Alice Location: Bremen on Sep 20, 2007 at 06:43 PM
It is so sad that this went on for this long. I feel the blame should go to the higher ups that didn't put a stop to it. Someone should have stepped in and ended this a long time ago. I have followed this from the start and the Snyder's have done nothing but act like bully school children from the start (watch all of the news tapes). Tiller should not have hit David, but if you watch the tape David was trying to provoke the police, when he was making his comment you could see the smerk on his face, just trying to get Tiller to hit him (so he can file another law suit). The police has had months of this to deal with. I can't believe with all the hot tempers that someone has not been killed. I would hope that this will end the little committte until they can get some adults in the chairs. The town is broke due to all of the stupid law suits. It is the others that have to pay for the Snyder's actions.

Posted by: e Location: south bend on Sep 20, 2007 at 06:39 PM
vacation yea right just like the one he took when he convinced swanson to help with the money

Posted by: Washington State Location: Seattle on Sep 20, 2007 at 06:28 PM
We, the citizens of the USA are enemys of the Police. The "officer" was just treating us how other officers think. To some of those who think he "had it coming", you will soon "have it coming"!

Posted by: Richard Location: San Antonio on Sep 20, 2007 at 06:01 PM
It seems obvious that a small click of individuals consider Roseland their own personal property and that all residents must succumb to tyranny or face retaliation from the goon squad. The video clearly shows the officer assualt him from behind, then continue beating Mr. Snyder on the ground. I would also point out that the councilmember who so flagerantly distorts the incident is also the lone croney left with the self imposed Dictator of Roseland who then pass the budgett. Seems rather convenient, though somewhat terroristic. Had it not been for the video footage captured, I am sure Mr. Snyder would still be facing felony charges. The only part of the drama I find unique is that it was actually captured on film and released to the public. Kudos to WNDU for reporting something that actually matters to the community. Now find the "dirt" in the new budget and you will have a real story of deception and intrigue.

Posted by: Marie Location: Roseland on Sep 20, 2007 at 05:54 PM
Check out some of the other blogs on WNDU. Coward Tiller "Jack of Roseland" is posting. Guess he doesn't have anybody to push down right now, and his hand is tired of beating them in the face.... No wonder the other cops wont talk to him.

Posted by: Tom Location: Tennessee on Sep 20, 2007 at 05:51 PM
As a former SB resident, I did not agree with what Mr Snyder has done for Roseland, but after viewing the video tape on here, I have to say that I feel the police officer is at fault. It appears that he was pushed out the door, and in one part of the video you can see the officer striking him, however you can't tell from the video if Mr. Snyder did anything to provoke that.

Posted by: Just heard Location: SHOCKED on Sep 20, 2007 at 05:22 PM
Tiller may get off? Dvorak is trying to get Snyder and let Tiller off with NOTHING?? Wonder what Tiller has on Dvorak?

Posted by: Justin Location: Ohio on Sep 20, 2007 at 05:21 PM
Ok, the reasons for this are in the related stories above "Roseland Police paid little more than minimum wage". Doesn't anyone think that these officers are upset that they're not getting paid and taking it out on the man who said they should be disbanded? And the fat woman in the video who says "get him for my dad"....I'm not sure what your dad has to do with it, but wouldn't it be funny if he was getting abused by your joke of a police force too?

Posted by: bigblue Location: georgia on Sep 20, 2007 at 04:58 PM
Ted Penn's reaction is hilarious. What an unashamed liar he is. Was he not aware that there was a video of what happened?

Posted by: John Again Location: Houston on Sep 20, 2007 at 04:15 PM
Anyone who witnessed this, and doesn't call the FBI is part of the conspiracy charges as well. Can you say RICO? WNDU Have you called the FBI?

Posted by: Matt Location: Indy on Sep 20, 2007 at 04:08 PM
Regardless of you perfect people who live in Roseland who hate these Snyder's, you should be ashamed for your support of that police officer. You may hate these people, but what is right is right. When you use your position of power to attack at free will (then completely lie about it) you should be arrested and brought up on felony charges. In saying that, if you have that much of a problem with this man you find a legal way to deal with him. You all write your congressmen/women and plead, beg or whatever for support. NO ONE DESERVES TO BE BEATEN DOWN LIKE THAT! Anyone who feels justice was served is a complete nincompoop. Lets start to heal by finding a way to remove this guy. Don't gloat about this stuff and smile inside. This is America, find a way.

Posted by: Mike Location: Iowa on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:59 PM
Wow! what a show of police power; a democracy gone stale!

Posted by: Richard Location: Houston,Texas on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:59 PM
Are you going to believe Officer Tiller or your lying eyes?

Posted by: John Location: America on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:52 PM
The officer was acting under color of law, and committed felonies, and civil rights violations. Where is the FBI?

Posted by: JOhn Location: Houston on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:48 PM
The whole country has seen this video, and TED PENN is the biggest liar in the world. You can clearly see on the video that he NEVER hit the cop, the cop initiated the fight. Liars.

Posted by: john Location: southern cali on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:46 PM
I don't know the Synders, but he is protected under the 1st Amendment from government (Tiller). From a purely legal p.o.v., Tiller is complete violation of the law, on multiple counts. Have your cameras ready...this is our best weapon against corrupt cops.

Posted by: John Location: Tennessee on Sep 20, 2007 at 02:50 PM
What ever happened in the past is NOT important! He was beat by a scum cop that needs to be fired! This is what America is coming to! A POLICE STATE! WAKE UP PEOPLE! You KNOW you would be fighting this, if this was you. This needs to get out more than that murderer OJ! If the cop wants to beat on anyone, let him and OJ battle it out in jail! I'd buy tickets to that! A TRUE dog fight! Both are scum! I hope David sues the heck out of them! On a side note. You are legally allowed to defend yourself if you are hit first by a cop and not resisting arrest! He was not even in handcuffs when this happened! He turned around and then got pushed and beat! Ted Penn is lying in the video too! Scum as well! Everyone that agrees to the beating needs to be hung in the street to make an example that WE THE PEOPLE will not allow this in America!!

Posted by: Robert Location: Pearland, TX on Sep 20, 2007 at 02:34 PM
Move along, nothing to see here, folks. Any resemblance to a Police State is purely coincidental.

Posted by: Corey Location: So Bend, IN on Sep 20, 2007 at 01:03 PM
Even if Snyder did say something to Officer Tiller, those officer's should be trained to just ignore it. Not to blow up and start beating on someone. As you can see,(on the video) as Snyder walks through the doorway, his hands are full. He has papers/folders in one hand and a video and tri-pod in the other. Officer Tiller should have then, done his job and escorted Snyder out of the building. The video shows Snyder not even moving as Officer Tiller punches him. I don't care to much for the Snyder's but what Officer Tiller did was wrong. I think Snyder should sue Officer Tiller for $100,000 (enough for Snyder to pay off his back child support) and then leave the state. Why isn't Snyder in jail anyway for the back child support? Obviously he isn't paying it off.

Posted by: Stacey on Sep 20, 2007 at 12:31 PM
Granted, I don't live in Roseland, but I have followed the news there intently. While the Snyders have been nothing but trouble and David did his best to antagonize his fellow board members, if you watch the video carefully, you see a reflection in the window that does seem to indicate the officer was out of line. It appears Snyder was pushed from behind and into and out of the glass door.

Posted by: Glen Location: Feel safe in Roseland on Sep 20, 2007 at 12:27 PM
Word in roseland is that the Town has recieved over $6000 in private donations to support the Roseland Police payroll after the Dave Snyder arrest incident. Where Do I send my donation??

Posted by: Mike Location: Oklahoma on Sep 20, 2007 at 12:15 PM
The cop that beat that guy is scum. He apparently didn't realize there is clear video of the incident before he lied in the interview about what happened. I hope to hear in the future he gets a stint in prison among other criminals like him.

Posted by: Don M Location: Tennessee on Sep 20, 2007 at 12:08 PM
If the people of your pathetic little town let this Nazi officer get by with beating on one of your citizens like that, you get what you deserve. The whole nation has seen the video. We know what happened. Officer Tiller needs to be arrested for assault and go to jail. The people in your sorry little twon need to grow a backbone and take action against this rogue officer. The whole bunch of you make me sick.

Posted by: Joey Location: WA on Sep 20, 2007 at 12:00 PM
That malfeasant cronie cop of the state ought to be flogged, in town square, in front of the whole community... after he is fired & denied any benefits! Public servant my derriere!!!

Posted by: Mike Location: Unknown on Sep 20, 2007 at 11:57 AM
The Police officers involved should all be fired and their careers washed down the toilet. We; WE! pay the police to protect us not to beat the living daylight. I agree he should sue the police department.

Posted by: Sarah on Sep 20, 2007 at 11:55 AM
can say i don't blame the officer one bit. he just got to do what everyone else has been wanting to do for a very long time. too bad he will probably get in trouble over it, but it's something snyder deserved just for being himself!!

Posted by: Lance Location: Matters not... on Sep 20, 2007 at 11:51 AM
You know this whole Snyder and Roseland thing has gone far enough. It had its humorous side not its just sad. They are adults I saw more maturity last night on Kid Nation. I think they should just get the Snyders out and make them stay out. As for the officer or Marshall Tiller. Who are we to be "Monday Morning Quarterbacks"? You put officers in place through a rigorous process. You put them in place to keep you safe night and day. But when they do their job you want to say or boo hoo and foul play. Let the officer do his job you werent involved you dont know what either one was thinking and the video reminds me of Rodney King! Always the police officer in the wrong never the criminal. I am not saying all are perfect but I do know they are degrees of escalation of force. Apparently it had to go there and Snyder has been through this more than once he is a habitual trouble maker. Keep him out of politics and lets see Roseland go back to what it was

Posted by: Brian Location: MN on Sep 20, 2007 at 11:38 AM
Why do you call this a rumble? I didn't see anyone throwing punches but the officer. You can't call it a fight...He was walking out calmly. Sounded like there was some kind of a family spat going on too. I don't know what the guy did previously to that family, but either way, when someone is already on the ground, don't be punching them in the face, or as in Florida, Tase them. I think the officer was out of line or related to someone in someway. I don't know all the details, but why was the victim arrested? He certainly didn't fight the officer...the officer shoved him in the back. We need to make sure this gets out, and officers understand that people will not just think that is ok. This is concerning. Maybe it is just a small town kinda thing, but still.

Posted by: Jamie Location: Wisconsin on Sep 20, 2007 at 10:55 AM
He should sue. He did not deserve to be assaulted from behind by that trigger-happy police officer. David did nothing to warrant the beating. He was already leaving, and did not touch or delay anyone on his way out. Why do police officers seem to always strike from behind and when their victims are already down and cuffed? It is because they are cowards who won't go face to face with a real man who can fight back.

Posted by: Ross Location: Mishawaka on Sep 20, 2007 at 10:40 AM
As much as I dislike the antics of the Snyders, there was no cause demonstrated in the video for the arrest of David Snyder. Moreover there was neither cause nor provocation prompting the brutality against David Snyder. The officer is clearly a threat and menace to our society and at a minimum needs to be removed from the force and barred from ever again holding any position public or private that involves the enforcement of law, regulation or policy. Team Snyder needs to be removed from office permanently. Dvorak needs to jail the officers involved in this incident or face removal from office himself for clear incompetence. Oops! I forgot. This is Indiana. We, the people, are not allowed by the incompetents to remove the incompetents. I guess all Hoosier politicians are safe.

Posted by: 3rdPartyRep Location: Walkerton, Indiana on Sep 20, 2007 at 09:40 AM
This issue is showing our great need for the Constitutional necessity for the balance in Government! History warns about the type of uncontrolled behavior with the Government. Police Officers do not have the right to break laws, but to enforce them. It still remains only in a Court of Law do laws get decided and hopefully fairly as according to the Constitution. As a neutral view, we hope the public understands and support the very reason we have the Bill of Rights! If this is NOT the case, we are ALL subject to losing our rights of Freedom.

Posted by: Oh My God Location: America on Sep 20, 2007 at 09:13 AM
PROSECUTOR TRYING TO COVERUP POLICE BRUTALITY "...Friday's skirmish in Roseland involving the town marshal and a Town Council member remains under review by the St. Joseph County prosecutor's office...Dvorak would not specifically address if an investigation of Tiller's actions is part of his review of the case. "I don't want to answer that question for fear it might impact the Snyder case," said Dvorak...." - area news paper

Posted by: Very Angry Location: Granger on Sep 20, 2007 at 08:32 AM
I have seriously scrutinized this video looking for evidence to support Tiller's claim that David Snyder hit him. It's there as plain as anything and I'm quite surprised that all of you people did not see it. Look very closely towards the end of the video after they left the hallway. It may help to pause or slow down the video. Watch carefully as it happens several times very quickly. You can actually see David hit Officer Tiller in the fist with his head. Not just once, but several times! I guess it's true then, David is guilty of assaulting a police officer which must explain why almost a week has passed and this cop is still armed on on the loose! Time for the State of Indiana to step in. This is evidently beyond the capacity of the local authorities to deal with or has the corruption gone that deep? We all need to be worried.Don't let this die people. Continue to forward this around the world. Kudos to WNDU for keeping this forum alive.

Posted by: Donald Location: The United States on Sep 20, 2007 at 08:22 AM
How dare that person disagree with that old dictatorial council member. He should have been tasered to death for what he did. Everybody should just submit to the New World Order and their 1 million strong police(aka gestapo) and their peace keeping tactics. Don't forget to have your kids immunized, because mercury is good for them. It keeps them undercontrol and docile. Eat your Genetically Modified food graciously provided by Monsanto. All Hail and bow to the New World Order. Annuit Coeptis! WAKE UP AMERICA AND SMELL THE REPRESSION BEING PERPETRATED UNDER YOUR VERY NOSES AND BEFOR YOUR VERY EYES!!! Don't let the Republic fall. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (who guards the guards?) that was a disgusting display of power. the officer should be stripped of his title and sent to prison. End of discussion. 'nuff said

Posted by: rick Location: mishawaka on Sep 20, 2007 at 07:46 AM
Good job by the officer. this should of been done a long time ago. I am so sick of hearing about the roseland troubles and especially Davis Snyder and his wife.keep up the good work roseland police officers.

Posted by: Jay Location: Phoenix, AZ on Sep 20, 2007 at 05:28 AM
By the way, the rule law is not dictated by a man's character, or perceived value. The rule of law is black and white, and not left up for discretionary change based on personal opinions. If that was the case, then no law could protect anyone, and I would be free to smack the slime off that Penn character in a court of law without recourse.

Posted by: Jay Location: Phoenix, AZ on Sep 20, 2007 at 05:23 AM
That cop needs to be arrested for felonious assault and making false statements. Notice how the other office knows Tiller is in the wrong and keeps tapping on him like "Ok, ok... enough man, you're gonna kill him on video!" Disgusting! Synder comes off annoying, but Penn is a blatant liar, so what is worse? God save our country from the ignorant and foolish who do not let justice prevail, nor can even acknowledge and follow something as basic as a city council code and bylaw. This is a democracy, not a dictatorship. Mr. Penn has no business in any position of authority as it is clear he is morally challenged and has no ability to follow procedure if it does not suit his argument. Pathetic and criminal at best...

Posted by: Cyndy Location: Huntsville, Alabama on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:54 AM
I am sitting here in shock after watching the coucil meeting in your city.I thought I was watching 6 yr olds. Then to see the abuse that cop did to that man! The DA must be insane to charge him with anything. Some woman said that the video needs to be on utube,she got her wish.Not only utube, but myspace bulletins, and no one is impressed. Has the cop and the DA ever heard of the ACLU? I will be sure they look into this personally. My god, with cops like that getting the support of the DA, who needs gangs and drug dealers? They should all grow up. I can only imagine what the children of that town are like with such great examples. This tape is going to put you guys on the map for sure, just tonight alone thousands of people across America are watching in shock that this so called cop is not in jail.Maybe with the help of the ACLU, he will be taken off the street.It is not the job of the police to"HIT HIM ONE FOR MY DADDY"

Posted by: Calvin Location: MO on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:45 AM
After this incident was mentioned extensively on the nationally broadcast Alex Jones show Wednesday,I don't think it's going to fly under the Indiana attorney generals office or the governors office for long. I think this towns police department is going to feel the full weight of a very image sensitive state government.

Posted by: V Location: Florida on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:23 AM
STOP RESISTING! thats what they say as they brutalize you..TURN AROUND!! thats what he says as he sits on him and pins him down..STAND UP!! thats what they say as they paralyze your legs with the tasers..its all about giving the illusion that you are not complying to their every order and resisting! Remove these officers and any others that operate as hired goons to push people around!

Posted by: Anthony Location: Manchester, CT on Sep 20, 2007 at 02:33 AM
I cannot find an active link to Vote YES he went too far so 1 vote from me maybe this is why as someone stated earlier the poll is not much higher on the yes side. Brutality at its worse here

Posted by: Anthony Location: Manchester, CT on Sep 20, 2007 at 02:29 AM
This case is brutality plain and simple. it is clearly seen on the video that he is pushed face first through the door and onto the ground where the pudgy officer then gives him a couple punches from behind as this guy is laying on his belly. this guy needs to be removed from his role as a law enforcement officer immediately before he seriously hurts or kills someone. a police officer needs to maintain a certain level of control and staying cool. Bad cop..no donut.

Posted by: Travis Location: Lincoln, NE on Sep 20, 2007 at 02:10 AM
This is just the begining of the brutality of the new world order. Now is the time for all good men "and woman" of every age to come to the aid of their country. pass the word! www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ www.destruction.tv www.infowars.com

Posted by: Jargus Location: southern california on Sep 20, 2007 at 01:36 AM
the college incident with the tazer, this and who knows what else, is all condoned by the news outlets so I guess these are the new policies to live by. I guess this isn't as bad as getting taxed 50% of your income for a health care system that you'll never benefit from. :)

Posted by: Colin OReilly Location: America on Sep 20, 2007 at 01:04 AM
This police officer must be permanently removed from duty. If he is not I would hope people will raise heck.

Posted by: Pamela Location: Westby, Wisconsin on Sep 20, 2007 at 01:02 AM
If you'd like to get involved: THE POLICE STATE IN FULL EFFECT Roseland Police Department 200 Independence Drive South Bend, IN 46637 574/272-6485 POC: William J. Goss, Chief CALL AND DEMAND THIS OFFICER IS REMOVED FROM THE FORCE AND BROUGHT UP ON ASSAULT CHARGES! We did. www.shoutkucinich.com

Posted by: Brian Location: Virginia Beach, VA on Sep 20, 2007 at 12:57 AM
It doesn't matter how many hate Snyder for past events. The past does not relate to this event. Tiller is a thug. He probably beat little kids up in high school. Penn obviously has hatred, which gives him a motive to lie in support of Tiller! No question about it. It is plain to see on the video. I can plainly see Snyder and Tiller both through the open door. Snyder turns to say "Here comes the bully.." and Tiller took offense to it and pushed Snyder. Snyder obviously makes no movement with his arms at all. Tiller is guilty of assault! If the police do not drop all charges again Snyder, then they are also guilty of accessory to this crime! If there is justice then Tiller [and his cop partner for not telling the truth, and maybe additional officers if they ignore the video] will be convicted guilty as charged. I hope Snyder sues at least Tiller for everything he has. Some lawyer will have an early Christmas gift. Tiller, have a nice Christmas in jail.

Posted by: don Location: sunnyvale on Sep 20, 2007 at 12:08 AM
Any one who cant see that it is a perfect example of were our country is .America needs to wake up.This small town city council meeting shows corruption in action. we have the people in power #1 kicked Dave out to stop his speech #2 the cop brutalized him fear of what he was going to say and beet him up without resistance.Look in the glass case you will see how fast Dave hit the door and knocked out just like he said. Witch should have been enough beating but not for that punk bully tiller.#3 the media actually showing a man lying on camera to sway public opinion. Why does the media always back the establishment how week you have become shame on you. We have the judge, that still has charges against him. Let me tell you all something everyone in that town knows the truth about what's going on Its all they can talk about. Will they do the right thing. People!! We as a hole have become vary self centered WHAT A SHAME.

Posted by: Owen Location: Bailey on Sep 20, 2007 at 12:06 AM
Look at the reflection in the glass. It clearly shows the officer was not punched but shoved the councilman down to the floor.

Posted by: don Location: sunnyvale on Sep 19, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Take a look at the reflection in the glass case and tell me he had a chance to fight back. oh look

Posted by: mark Location: montana on Sep 19, 2007 at 11:43 PM
Tiller and penn and Liars, Tiller assaulted Snyder obviously and Tiller pounded him when he was face down on the broken glass caused by Tiller shoving him through the door... more Police Brutality and more corruption by officials. Welcome to the Fourth Reich Folks this country better wake up because these Fascists who run it are destroying it. People all over the country are tired of this... You cops better start behaving, you are not behaving as though you are here to "Protect and Serve" anyone but corporate interests. This will not stand!

Posted by: Lorinda Location: Co. on Sep 19, 2007 at 11:38 PM
My question is WHY was he arrested in the first place???? Since when do we not posess free speech in this country? This country is moving fast toward a police state! This officer had NO right to arrest this man much less abuse him. You people their better stand up about this and protest or next this could be you.

Posted by: Peter Location: IA on Sep 19, 2007 at 11:33 PM
Well it looks like the jig is up for Tiller. I have a contact at the state level that said " if the local Prosecuter does not take action soon against Tiller, the state will"

Posted by: Janet Location: walkerton on Sep 19, 2007 at 11:23 PM
If the police Dept is not ashamed for this...I am ashamed for them.It is very clear the cop was beating him. even the cops friend tried to warn him with taps on his back, that he had gone too far. No matter what david has done..No one should be treated like this by police. They are here to Searve and protect..who was the cop serving and who was he protecting? with that being said, I do hope other fellow police learn from this. I for one love the police. and in most cases they are my heros.

Posted by: GO ND Location: Snyderville(Roseland) on Sep 19, 2007 at 11:14 PM
It's to bad for the Snyders that they already bankrupt Roseland or they may have come out with a nice settlement to help pay for all the back child support.

Posted by: William Location: Seattle on Sep 19, 2007 at 11:09 PM
The moral of this story may be that it is imperative that as many of us regular citizens as possible carry a camcorder or at least a digital camera with video option (that the user knows how to work) so we have a stored image of events like these and we don't have to count on unreliable witness testimony (like Mr. Penn's).

Posted by: Jacob Jasper Location: Gaineville, FL on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:50 PM
That police officer needs to go to prison and play with the other criminals. Its clear on the tape that he is striking him in the head while on top of him and he looks to be at least half the mans age that he is beating. Power crazed idiots that cannot control themselves shouldn't become police officers. They make it tough on the ones that try to do their job correctly.

Posted by: Jay Location: Granger, IN on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:48 PM
It is simply sickening to see David Snyder called a victim...I think this is music to this jerks ears. I not at all a fan of the Roseland cops - mostly because I speed alot and they are not forgiving - but this guy has been a huge embarresment to our state for far to long. I don't know why anyone so hated would just crawl under a rock but this guy is just eating this all up. I know this video must look absolutely horible to most of the nation but for some of us it has been a long time coming. Was the officer wrong? yah...but those five seconds must have felt real good!

Posted by: bzelbob Location: Jacksonville, FL on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Problems with Marshal Tillers story: 1) Tiller claims he was "hit" but notice his body did not stop walking forward the entire time. 2) In the reflection it's very obvious that Tiller put his hand on Snyder and pushed him into the door. That right there, regardless of anything else, constitutes police brutality. Pushing someone through glass isn't a legitimate self defense response. 3) When Snyder is already on the ground, Tiller punches him in the head multiple times while Synder's back is to the officer. How is he supposed to be resisting arrest when he's just been pushed through a glass door onto the surface of the parking lot onto his face? 4) When Tiller is interviewed later he didn't display any injury or problems speaking. So if he was struck, it obviously wasn't hard enough to cause serious damage. 5) How was snyder supposed to have struck Tiller since he had both hands full (one was carrying a camera and the other his papers. Solution: MARSHAL TILLER IS LYING.

Posted by: William Location: Cali on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:29 PM
This cop has hate and evil in his eyes, he should be locked up with a bunch of other felons like himself and let the felons deal with him.

Posted by: Mac Location: Houston, TX on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:11 PM
This is outrageous. That fat cop is a complete criminal and should go to jail. There should at the very least be a state wide call for this cop to resign. Ted Penn is a lying fool. I hope Snyder gets a lawyer and sues that cop for violating his civil rights, false imprisonment, etc. We should all call the police station an demand a resignation, I am so angry and I live way down here in Texas

Posted by: DaveandDorthyHater Location: south bend In on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:09 PM
If you know david and dorthy you would be applauding this officer. Look, if this officer had beaten down a drug dealer or robber then yes defiantly police brutality but dave snyder? our little david? you know you loved seeing that c,mon thats good stuff. Tiller should be getting an award, 9.8 for form, the silver in the snyder beating competition. IF YOU WERE AS SICK AND TIRED AS WE ARE OF SEEING DAVE AND DORT BRING THIS LITTLE TOWN DOWN YOU WOULD BE SENDING DONATIONS TO OFFICER TILLERS DEFENSE FUND, your gonna need it buddy. Had dave looked straight ahead pushed the door open and walked out to his jag this never would have happened remember this is the same guy who went up on charges for jumping ted penn a few months ago with his wife and dad and beating him up. Chaulk it up to "got whats commin to ya"

Posted by: Mark Location: Jacksonville FL on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:06 PM
"taken to the ground" Is an outrageous understatement. He was clearly assaulted by officer Tiller, and brutalized. Please restate yourselves. Officer Jack Tiller abused his position of authority. Mark.

Posted by: RU Kidding Location: Minnesota on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:06 PM
How could anyone not see the Mr. Snyder was attacked WITHOUT justification? It's bad enough that he was tossed out of the meeting like that but then to be brutalized -- and the audacious cops charge HIM with battery!?! God help you when it's your turn and there aren't cameras around.

Posted by: Benja Location: Columbus Ohio on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:01 PM
That policeman should get the electric chair or gas chamber. When you abuse your power and attack those who you sworn to serve, that's treason and he should be treated as the enemy of the USAmerican people.

Posted by: Cal Location: Plymouth on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:53 PM
Ted Penn is a LIAR. We can see the video you lying fool! None of what you said happened!

Posted by: Cal Location: Plymouth on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:48 PM
This Police officer MUST be fired, charged, convicted and jailed. He disgusts me. He makes me afraid for America. What a disgusting Nazi. A shame on the badge he wears. SHAME ON HIM, and SHAME ON THOSE WHO SUPPORT HIM.

Posted by: Jason Location: Out of town on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:31 PM
That Penn guy is hilarious. Did they interview him before he knew about the tape? "In handcuffs"? I didn't see any handcuffs. Oh and then he got his handcuffed hands up in Tiller's face? Usually handcuffs go on behind the back! Yep, that's "exactly" what happened!

Posted by: John Location: New York, NY on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:30 PM
Those cops are insane!!! They savagely attacked & beat an elderly man!!! They need to be charged with assault & battery immediately!!!

Posted by: Stephen Dupont Location: New Bedford on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:29 PM
lol I saw the video and the reflection in the glass in the hallway the cop drove this guy through the door face first then he jumped on him and started pummeling him in the head. didn't everyone see the same video? this guy Ted is obviously making up his story as he goes along, hahah its almost comical if it were not true. I'm from Massachusetts so I could care less about your small town politics, but I saw what I saw. Oh by the way I spent 7 years on the Police dept. and I'd have to say this officer and the town is in deep kaka! Better bring the checkbook.

Posted by: Fanakapan Location: UK on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:23 PM
The fat cop pushed the guy into the door with no provocation, tis clear to see on the video, hint, look at the reflection in the glass. Been a lot of US cops caught on camera, on the internet these past few days, I hate to suggest it, but maybe you folks ought to look at your recruiting guidelines. I,m thinking that over here in the UK, most of these fella's would'nt even cut it to make security guard. Lets hope the state troopers run a different system.

Posted by: cuda Location: United States on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:04 PM
What I saw and heard when he left was someone says cya Hitler and it sounded like he said to the cop whats that and the rest inaudible. But in the reflection of the display cabinet in the hall area the PIG rushed that guy through the outer door and tackles him on the cement repeatedly punching him in the face while sitting on his back.Then he says the guy hit him for the camera and arrests him on a lie. This cop should be fired because he is prone to violent outbursts and a danger to society. How many people has he falsely charged for crimes he himself should have been charged with? I do see that this guy ticks people off.It also seemed he knows the codes and stands up for his rights.Sorry peeps you may have the authority but you cant change the rules because you own the ball.

Posted by: John Location: Ohio on Sep 19, 2007 at 08:55 PM
The cops reaction was WAY out of line! What happened to protect and serve! Oh and that little thing called free speech? That cop should be taken out behind the wood shed to learn a lesson!

Posted by: jeff Location: autrey on Sep 19, 2007 at 08:52 PM
This cop was out of line and should face assault charges, and you have reported that there were only two witnesses, but infact there are millions who can clearly see in the video who was wrong. This cop was not even touched. The councilman should sue.

Posted by: Kyle Sanders Location: Salem, OR on Sep 19, 2007 at 08:40 PM
The world is watching this now. It's all over the internet. If Officer Tiller isn't put on leave and an investigation started soon, if one hasn't already, I can see this escalating into a mainstream news story. ESPECIALLY since YESTERDAY the mainstream headlines were about POLICE BRUTALITY at University of Florida. My personal opinion is, if police are prepared to break the law, they need to be prepared to suffer the consequences, just like the rest of us. However, since they are supposed to be examples to the community, their penalty should be set to the maximum, NOT the minimum. I am a soldier. If I commit a crime, I get tried in a military court and face a military punishment. Police should face similar punishment. POLICE STATE RISING .. Time to wake up :)

Posted by: Jarrett Location: Portland, OR on Sep 19, 2007 at 08:34 PM
This is outrageous. Only 2 witnesses? Please. I am a witness. The police officer used Snyder's head to open the door! This Ted Penn is blatently lying on camera, because Snyder was holding a folder and a camera. I hope this officer loses his job, charged with assault, and spends some time in jail with the rest of the criminals. Of course, if they trump up charges like this while on camera whos to say the people in their jail system are criminals...Its black and white, there was certainly assault, but come on! Who assaulted who?

Posted by: sean Location: austin, texas on Sep 19, 2007 at 08:32 PM
it is starting to get hotter all around the nation. Police officers should beware of outraged citizens. Officers need to start questioning their integrity of this brotherhood.

Posted by: Wayne Location: Ohio on Sep 19, 2007 at 07:52 PM
"Let's remember that our children will see this and think that they can also treat the police with disrespect." It's illegal to act disrespectfuly toward the police? Link?

Posted by: Rick James Location: Wagener, S.C. on Sep 19, 2007 at 07:46 PM
It is quite obvious that the officer brutalized Mr. Snyder. If it were up to me, that officer would be jailed

Posted by: Nancy Location: mishawaka on Sep 19, 2007 at 07:39 PM
I AGREE WITH EVERYONE ELSE,I AM NOT REAL FOND OF DAVID BUT HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.THAT IS VERY CLEAR ON THE TAPE.AND YES TED WASN'T TELLING THE TRUTH EITHER.AND IF THE LAW STATES WE CAN'T PUT OUR HANDS ON ANYONE OR WE WILL GO TO JAIL,PLEASE TELL ME WHY THE POLICE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME LAWS.IT'S ONE THING IF SOMEONE IS OUT OF HAND TO USE MORE FORCE BUT DAVID WASN'T.IT IT SO SAD TO SEE HOW OUR POLICE CAN GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING,THEY BRING ALOT OF THEIR PROBLEMS ON THEMSELVES.AND MOST HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANYONE THAT ISN'T ON THE POLICE FORCE,SO SAD THAT OUR COUNTRY IS THIS WAY.IS THIS WHAT MY CHILDREN ARE FIGHTING FOR?

Posted by: Ryan Location: KS on Sep 19, 2007 at 07:29 PM
When you look at what David Snyder was trying to do in that town you start to see why the cop did this. In the news it says Snyder was trying to get rid of the local cops and just use the St. Joseph Co. police to save money. It looks like Tiller doesn't like the idea of loosing his job. What bothers me the most is Ted Penn saying that Snyder already had handcuffs on going out the door and his other lies about the quick movement at the door that didn't happen. The lady saying Snyder is getting what he deserved also bothers me.

Posted by: phil Location: galotta on Sep 19, 2007 at 07:28 PM
I think it's an outrage these cops are not men they are such scum it just goes to show our people have been poisioned in america when confronting corruption or if you're a whistle-blower, you become an outcast, of course their favorite show is the Soprano's it just sickens me.

Posted by: Jason Location: California on Sep 19, 2007 at 07:20 PM
All Snyder said when he turned to the cop was "Oh look the bully is back" and the fascist tackled and beat the council member.

Posted by: Johnathan Crowell Location: Springfield, MO on Sep 19, 2007 at 07:15 PM
After watching this, I was shocked. So what if the council member, David Synder, lost his cool and talked as he left the building, it gave no legal justification for officer Jack Tiller to assult this man. Jack Tiller should be in jail for unprovoked battery because of the clear definition there was 'probable cause' in the video to convict the officer of this horrible crime. He stepped out of his legal duty and should never be praised for his actions. This type of behavior is a pattern in America, and only leads into the further rise of police state and conditioning to public for 'martial law.'

Posted by: Nicholas Location: Indianapolis, IN on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:54 PM
Two things to note in the video 1. When the action happens someone immediately says "what happened" then someone answers "someone got pushed" then more people ask "what happened", then a woman says "he pushed.. he pushed a cop." Compare that statement with what you see in the reflection of the glass just after Mr Snyder says "Oh the bully's back." Look in the reflection do you see Mr Snyder pushing the cop?

Posted by: nike Location: Tx on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:47 PM
look at the window you can see the shadow of David Snyder being push head first into the glass door by this goon. this is sick. shame on you guys who vote no

Posted by: Mike Location: Orlando, FL on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:47 PM
This is absolutely disgusting. That cop should lose his job and go to jail. I just noticed the poll where 36% of you think the cops did not go too far. You people make me sick and have no more class than the woman screaming "get him for my dad". This country is in serious trouble.

Posted by: tim Location: michigan on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:36 PM
do cops take an oath to the constitution anymore ,well i guess it doesn't matter the president won't even stand up to it .this country and the people we're suppose to trust have lost all respect ,not just here but everywhere .torture and corruption is the new norm.

Posted by: Viking Location: Missouri on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:36 PM
This just shows what a sad state this country is in.

Posted by: PCH Location: Texas on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:31 PM
This is only the beginning of the police state being shaped by this Neo-Con administration. The first amendment is dead, and the mainstream media traitors that have supported bringing it about should not be forgotten. Rigged voting machines without paper trails, and senator's found dead when they ask the wrong questions. Where does it end I ask. Where is the courage of the educated youth of our nation? Are you so deluted that you really can't see your heritage being taken from you? Wake up, speak up, join the fight!

Posted by: Jean Location: Texas on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:20 PM
It appears that the police brutally attacked David Snyder and that the council was taking the side of the police. These policeman should be brought up on charges of police brutality and suspended without pay.

Posted by: Noel Location: Elkton MD on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:15 PM
Nazi Cop!!! Nazi Cop!! thats right our cops are now (have been for awhile) 100% anti- constitution Gestapo agents. I even made a video about it on YouTube just type "American Gestapo" in the search engine at YouTube and watch examples far worse. Jack Tiller is a Gestapo cop! Watch him ram his fist into the head of that poor guy . I would sue Nazi Cop Tiller for everything he had, and Sue his boss , and sue all the way up the chain of command for violation of my 4th Amendment. I would walk away a millionaire when it was over !!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Austin, TX. on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:09 PM
The only thing almost as depressing as this obvious and egregious abuse of authority are the Americans in the comment section implying who the victim is, or what he has or hasn't done, has any bearing on this. The officer should be immediately suspended and taken to trial. If convicted, a maximum penalty should be imposed. In addition, the police department should be investigated to see if this kind of mentality is being either ignored or encouraged. I hope the heat stays on this for a while - again, not just focusing on the offending officer, but on the entire department. (I'd hate to think what may have happened without a video of this.)

Posted by: Jon Location: Missouri on Sep 19, 2007 at 06:06 PM
You might notice at the end of the video of the wife's reaction, there are one or two people mocking her and making baby whining nosies. It looks as if they are not well liked in that town. Even during the meeting many were backing up the guy that set the limit. I'd wager that the Synders are some of only folks in town to stand up to the corruptness of the others.

Posted by: Joe Location: Indiana on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:59 PM
How does someone that stupid get a job as a cop? Jack Tiller is a low life thug and Ted Penn is a pathetic coward and liar. They both belong behind bars with the rest of societies animals.

Posted by: Will Location: Jolly "Old" England on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:44 PM
Hmmmmm what's there to debate, the reflection in the window as the Police Officer brutally throws Mr. Snyder into/through a glass door and whats not shown but is very obvious the Officer pouncing ontop of him and giving him a good ol' punching in. Hope this guys smart enough to sue both the Police Force and the Officer himself. GL Mr. snyder

Posted by: Brandon Location: Elkhart, IN on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:38 PM
I feel sorry for the residents of Roseland that have been embarrassed by this officer's immature and pathetic conduct. This "cop" is an even bigger embarrassment to all other policemen and women who risk their safety for others everyday.

Posted by: Chadwick Location: portage on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:26 PM
WOW I just watched that Ted Penn Interview. WOW I saw the video like everyone else First of all Snyder never had is hands cuffed Snyders hands were full of a tripod and paper work.. That Ted Penn is lying I AM OUTRAGED

Posted by: Bud Location: NJ on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:25 PM
Felony?? TILLER should be in cuffs and incarcerated, the jack-boot hoodlum! David says, "oh, the bully's back..." and Tiller, the sorry excuse for a cop, just plows him into the door. What low-class citizens say, "Hit him for my dad", and on Dorthy's reaction, some low-life mocking her, saying, "Wah, wah...wahhh". Sad, very VERY sad. Vote RON PAUL! ronpaul2008 com

Posted by: Chad Location: Portage on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:17 PM
This is a complete outrage, it is clearly visible to any one who watches this that Jack Tiller lost total control of his emotions and aggregatively Assaulted Snyder. It seems as if there was a allot of disagreement and opposing opinions going on in there but for a officer of the law to loose his temper like that is wrong. Originally before the clip was taken off you tube you could hear a woman who also was filming the incedent yelling and a blody Snyder "HIT him for my DAD jack"

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:15 PM
I am sickened by both, the police thug and his, "stop resisting arrest"chant as he sits on the man's back and throws his weak right hook again & again towards the man's head. also, the white trash woman snarling and snorting out "Hit him again Jack, Hit him for my Dad". These two are both examples of how Good Midwest Values get screwed up when siblings procreate. Filthy, lower mental capabilities with social functioning skills putting the public at risk. Put the crazy violence hungry woman in a full security mental hospital and the policeman in a nice Federal Pen where his arresting style of thugery and violence should keep him on his best behavior

Posted by: Cindy Location: Tennessee on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:12 PM
After watching the video several times the council member was not hand cuffed. It looks like he said something the officer didn't like so he slammed him into the glass door.Since this councilman wanted to cut out the police dept because of funding, maybe that explains the real reason for the beating. You can also hear a woman saying, "get him for my dad", on the video.The voice also sounds like the woman during the meeting saying they do not follow Robert's Rules of Order. This sounds like a council who likes to bully people who have a difference of opinion. Glad I don't live there.

Posted by: Scott Ziering Location: Paso Robles on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:59 PM
look in the reflection in the door outside as the officer tackles the man after shoving him. POLICE BRUTALITY. And then the officer says "who hit you, did you trip and fall?" He's a disgrace to law enforcement. It amazing that with all those people there there are only 2 wittnesses on the report. So its gonna be a policeman word agianst the defendant. Good thing its all on film.

Posted by: matt dennis Location: washington DC on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:48 PM
smell the fascism.go vote bush.watch elections stolen.have your rights stepped over. Adolf hitler is coming back.wake up!

Posted by: Blunt Force Trauma Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:38 PM
Insanity is sweeping the 'law enforcement' community. No longer do citizens have rights. They are being attacked without merit and without provocation by persons in uniform. This happened at the University of Florida Monday night at a John Kerry speech function. Now this. It would plainly seem that there are individuals that are in uniform that just should not be. Upon a forensic investigation or until completion of one dealing with this matter, no police union or committee should allow Office Tiller back onto public property or into uniform and without pay pending the outcome of the investigation. This is battery, plain and simple. It was apparent from the video and the angle of which it was shot. You can see Officer Tiller's reflection as he rushes and attacks, from behind, David Snyder and pushes him out the main GLASS doors. Within seconds you see Officer Tiller repeatedly punching the council member in the head while sitting on top of the council member. Cowardly!

Posted by: matt Location: connecticut on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:38 PM
while there are bad apples in the police, lets not get angry at them all but plead for the good ones to help weed these monsters out of a dangerous and scary position of power.

Posted by: john hampton Location: san diego on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:33 PM
POLICE BRUTALITY where are all the good cops???

Posted by: Jed Location: North Platte on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:25 PM
And just so my comments are believed to be ANTI-POLICE, what I am saying is we have members of our police force in this country who think of us as their enemy. They abuse us, they do whatever they want to us because THEY HAVE THE POWER. It's time that we the people stand up against this abuse, and it's time that law-abiding officers stand with us.

Posted by: Jed Location: North Platte on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:20 PM
I hope that guy gets a nice fat paycheck from the city. Hitting corrupt cops in the pocketbook is the ONLY thing that police departments understand. It's time to stop this police state once and for all.

Posted by: Daryl Location: Chicago on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:17 PM
It seems that america has stumbled onto some sort of backwater town with it's own history and story. I don't know the circumstances of any previous incidents but this appalling. This officer has no right to assault this man. WAKE UP... This Tillman characteris a thug, a criminal, an enemy to the people, to america, the Constitution and the bill of rights. It's cops like this which will bring on a revolution by the people to take back their country by force. Couprupt political structures, corporate boot lickers, criminal law enforcement you should be very afraid of the people.

Posted by: Nick Location: Bloomington on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:14 PM
I pray for the safety and recovery of Mr. Snyder. I also pray for the officer who let his anger get the best of him. I also pray for the woman who told the crowd to “stand back, let the police do their job” and then she added, “Get him…get him for my dad” The officer or woman have no decency let alone morals. Doing what’s right, especially when no one is looking and when you know you won’t get caught is the mark of character. Those two can’t even do what’s right when the whole world was watching. My God have mercy on those two’s souls.

Posted by: Ken Location: Las Vegas, NV on Sep 19, 2007 at 03:50 PM
Here you go: Title 18, U.S.C., § 241 "Conspiracy Against Rights" Title 18, U.S.C., § 242 "Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law" Title 42, U.S.C., § 14141 "Pattern and Practice" TITLE 42, U.S.C., CHAPTER 21, SUB-CHAPTER I, § 1983 "Civil action for deprivation of rights" TITLE 42, U.S.C., CHAPTER 21, SUB-CHAPTER I, § 1985 "Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights" So, David Snyder-- PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE go after these cretins! The more people that let these people go, the more they are emboldened, and the more they atrocities will be committed. A good place to start is with the FBI, but if they will not do anything, you can file you own complaint (with accompanying exhibits of evidence, such as video tapes, affidavits of eye witnesses, etc.) with the US Attorney in your district. In addition, you should have your attorneys file a civil law suit, naming the town, and the police department. The officers (and maybe the mayor) are looking at federal prison time.

Posted by: Steve Location: Florida on Sep 19, 2007 at 03:40 PM
Wow, This running rampant accross the country. Go check to see the UF student who got tazed by the cops on youtube. We need to stick up for eachother and not let this become standard procedure. Prison Planet has a case where a wheelchair bound lady was tazed 10 times. She is dead.

Posted by: Neil Location: Albany on Sep 19, 2007 at 03:07 PM
It's interesting that what Ted Penn claims to have seen does not appear anywhere on the video - and given that we DO see Jack Tiller shoving David Snyder, it's reasonable to assume that what we don't see happen is David Snyder falling through the glass door and hitting the ground. If that's the case, how is it that Ted Penn sees Snyder shoving Teller and knocking him backwards? Ted Penn is nothing but a boot-licking lying little turd trying to curry favor with the bullies on the Roseland PD. Ted Penn is not a man, just a cowardly little boy who likes to tell tall tales.

Posted by: Stephen Location: Indianapolis on Sep 19, 2007 at 02:50 PM
All of you people who hate police read this: I am a police officer. I DO NOT CONDONE what this officer did. He did exactly what we are trained not to do: LOSE YOUR COOL HEAD. If the prosecutor up there does not investigate this officer and show it to a Grand Jury for indictment, you are all in REAL trouble. This is plain and simple: BATTERY. Police Officers can not play judge and jury and this officer did.

Posted by: thunderlips Location: Brooklyn, NY on Sep 19, 2007 at 02:49 PM
I saw Synder, on his way being escorted out, and not resisting in the least, say something, and then the cop really slammed him against the door/glass. I noticed the cop pushed him after the cop thought he had passed the point where the camera was, so it wouldn't be recorded. But at no point was Snyder resisting. I figure the cops wanted to help their chairman pal or didn't like Snyder very much. Then that lady says "Hit him for my dad." No class.

Posted by: Marc Villa Location: Houston on Sep 19, 2007 at 02:36 PM
This is blatent police brutality,the rogue officer pushed David as soon as he seemed to be out of camera view, no question about it, police seem to be more cavelier in using force, this was uncalled for the men was exiting the door out of his own volition.....

Posted by: Wally Location: Chicago, IL. on Sep 19, 2007 at 02:29 PM
This is the "New America" folks. Visit puppetgov com. Their news & video sections show you what mainstream media is afraid to show you. Thanks to WNDU & Stephanie Stang for acting as the media should.

Posted by: Chuck Location: Danville,Indiana on Sep 19, 2007 at 02:13 PM
Something needs to be done to stop this kind of police brutality as well as the use by law enforce ment of tasers.We are human beings with constitutional rights.We are not cannon fodder for these guys.Someone needs to start a nationwide movement to stop this.

Posted by: David Location: San Antonio , TX on Sep 19, 2007 at 02:12 PM
The whole town should be embarrassed. The cop pushes him through the glass doors then gets on him and starts swinging...no other side of the story too it...its on video. So you have corrupt cops and by the sounds of the people at the meeting lack of common sense. Rosebud's police and city council will be a living joke from now on. Congratulations P.s ...The one in the yellow shirt filming needs a muzzle

Posted by: nick Location: mill valley california on Sep 19, 2007 at 01:51 PM
ok, after that kid getting tasered the other day and seeying this, and that woman in the wheelchair who was tasered 10 times until she died... these cops need to be EXECUTED for treason against the bill of rights and constitution

Posted by: joe Location: thailand on Sep 19, 2007 at 01:34 PM
There are more than two witnesses. There are millions now. If that officer is not tried for assault, the whole world will know what your town is like. Cops are not exempt from the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: W Location: USA on Sep 19, 2007 at 01:10 PM
The cop is a liar. Snyder did not throw any punch as is evident on the video. He had a video camera and tripod in one hand and his folder of paperwork in the other hand, all of which traveled through the door and outside with Snyder. How did Snyder punch anyone with his hands full? Anyone can see that Tiller started pushing Snyder at the doorway leading from the meeting room and a second later you can here them hitting the front door. This is the USA? The attack on Snyder is obvious. Why was there a squad car waiting there with the door open so quickly? A setup for Snyder??

Posted by: Ezra Location: Las Vegas on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:52 PM
This is Craziness!!! I cant believe this! This is two events in less than a month! Andrew Meyer and this. Police need to be put in line! They are not allowed to beat people! The video says it all. Snyder was struck from behind! Where I come from that is called assault! Take this country back from the goons!

Posted by: MrMr Location: NA on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:45 PM
Why did he go to jail? The cop should go to jail! What is wrong with this country?!

Posted by: Pete Location: Maryland on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:40 PM
This is shameful. There was no need to punch this guy after he was down. This is police brutality.

Posted by: Joe Location: Here on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:35 PM
This is everywhere. cops are taught that citizens are the enemy. We are not in the America of 20 years ago. Welcome to Bush's New World Order where Facism rules. I hope that cop goes to jail for assault!

Posted by: Walter Location: Sugar Land on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:35 PM
The "stop resiting" comments by the cop are so fake. All cops say that AFTER they beat you, so later they can say you actually were resisting. Lame.

Posted by: Mona Location: Glendale, CA on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:27 PM
The important element of police abuse is that the officer lied on camera after beating the guy up and mocked the guy for stating that he had been beat up. "Who beat you up? Nobody beat you up." This cover up is evidence of intentional wrong doing on the part of the cop.

Posted by: Larry Location: Houston, TX on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:40 AM
The cop hit Mr. Snyder and then lied about it. THIS is justice in your town? This video is making the rounds on the Internet, and your minimum-wage bully boy is becoming well-known.

Posted by: Dave Location: Indiana on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:34 AM
looks to me like they will be changing the roseland town name to david snyderville!

Posted by: Carl Location: Vermont on Sep 19, 2007 at 08:24 AM
The video doesn't exactly inspire respect for the profession of law enforcement. They aren't all bad, but those who aren't protect those who are and it's becoming more and more difficult to distinguish the police from the criminals. It's a brutal job, so the people able to do it aren't going to be the cream of the crop, but that is the way those in power want it to be.

Posted by: martin Location: hampton,nh.03842 on Sep 19, 2007 at 08:11 AM
in watching the news on WMUR tv.what the police did was wrong . but who came up with the new word,( tazered )? i found taze,tazed,but really.the press makes up words as they go along?

Posted by: D Location: south bend on Sep 19, 2007 at 01:21 AM
It's as plain as day. The cop pushed Mr. Snyder as soon as they were in the hall. Look at the relection in the window. It is irrefutable. Jack Tiller assaulted this man. THen lied right to the camera. This cop needs to be stripped of his badge, then thrown in jail for aggravated assault.

Posted by: ryan Location: chicago on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:40 AM
What a scumbag moron cop Jack Tiller is. No matter what this guy may have said or done, you don't abuse the authority granted to you and then lie about it. Prosecute & sue that cop, please.

Posted by: c .s Location: south bend on Sep 18, 2007 at 08:18 PM
The Roseland cops just keep digging a bigger hole for themselves. NO ONE likes them. They are dirty cops and they get away with it. If that man really did swing at the cop, the cop still had no reason to hit him that hard and some many times. The cops now of these days take advantage of their jobs. They get away with so much that they now is wrong.

Posted by: cow poke Location: Austin Texas on Sep 18, 2007 at 07:43 PM
David Snyder is a smart man, who served on charity boards to help disabled children when he lived here (including horseback riding for special needs kids). I don't know why he wants to live in Indiana, or Roseland. But if there is anybody that thinks that they should tell people where they can live, they should ship out to Iraq and live with their own kind. Indiana isn't Texas (right David?) but it is still America. I fought in Nam, not at my choice, but still thought it was for a reason. That reason is FREEDOM. David, stop out to the ranch next time your in the neighborhood. Julie can keep that big house at the country club, you were always too restless to say put anyway.

Posted by: Art Location: Ocean Shores on Sep 18, 2007 at 06:11 PM
This "officer" should be going to jail. What a PUNK! No justification for this is logical. This officer should be beaten severely!

Posted by: The Truth Detector Location: Indianapolis on Sep 18, 2007 at 05:43 PM
I can tell when Ted Penn is lying. His lips are moving.

Posted by: Tony Location: South Bend on Sep 18, 2007 at 04:21 PM
Tiller says at the end of his interview: "I got to go to the hospital." What for, liposuction?

Posted by: Maggie Location: Santa Fe, NM on Sep 18, 2007 at 02:47 PM
This event and the aftermath is shameful. It's pitiful that council members would actually try to defend the out-of-control officer (the video shows the facts) and that the DA is still pursuing misdemeanor charges against Snyder. No matter what the attitudes are toward a council member, order must be maintained and procedure must be followed (Chair should have given Snyder a time limit before hand or told Snyder that he had 5 minutes remaining to make his point -- not just say it's time to shutup). Also, how can a council vote on a budget with only two members present? What the heck is the quorum in this town? One member present? Is it set up so that the Chair can remove all members (by force, if necessary) and then make all the motions, vote, and conduct business by himself? Unbelievable. It reminded me of the raucous South Korean Parliament - looks like you have to be willing to take a punch to the face if you want to present an alternative view.

Posted by: Steve Location: Indianapolis on Sep 18, 2007 at 02:40 PM
Well, thank God for video. This cop is going down no question about it. He clearly shoved the man as he was walking out without any resistance. There was absolutely no reason for this brutality. The police officer is a liar and can say what he wants, but the video tells the truth. He should do go to jail and never be allowed to be a police officer ever again, anywhere. I just wonder how many people he has brutilized in the past. He's an embarrassment and clearly a criminal.

Posted by: Ted Location: Gary on Sep 18, 2007 at 02:31 PM
This town marshall should be fired and prosecuted. Clear cut case of police brutality.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Oklahoma on Sep 18, 2007 at 01:06 PM
Did anbody else hear Council Member David Snyder on the Andrew Wilkow show?

Posted by: Old familiar Location: Austin, TX on Sep 18, 2007 at 12:02 PM
David Snyder is an egomoniacle control freak who got hooked up with a kook of a woman who must have been as hard up as him. For the life of me I can't understand anyone even wanting to listen to these nuts, and you people of Roseland were out of your minds to vote him into power. He deserves to have the living tar beaten out of him but not by the cops and not on camera. I guess that just about everyone has had a snoot full of the Snyders and Tiller was the poor fool who let his emotions get the better of him.You know David will sue since that seems to be his only acess to any chance of money. If he wins every cent needs to go to his sons in Austin, TX. He used to be a smooth talking liar and scum. Now he is just a pathetic liar and scum who lost his charm ages ago. I knew this guy back in Austin. He was lousy here and he's lousy there. Boot him and that crazy wife of his out. Can't you hold a special council?If you can't you need to change your laws. Take your town back. He's not king!

Posted by: Claude Location: Montreal on Sep 18, 2007 at 11:22 AM
My god this has been going on for so long now that it is completely out of hand. All members should be kicked out and barred permanently from ever being allow to run for council again. Do let the video fool all of you the person who got hit is not what one would call an angel nor is his wife. That couple basically usurped the town and went as far as using imminent domain to confiscate someone plumbing business. If they did that to me I be yelling out the same comments to the guy also.

Posted by: Martin Location: Graner on Sep 18, 2007 at 10:49 AM
David Synder looked like the MUMMY w that head gear on!!! It also looks like he stole some of Dorthy's makeup for his eye! This is not politics it is Ringling Bros three ring circus!.

Posted by: Jake Location: Indiana on Sep 18, 2007 at 08:25 AM
Ahhh, Roseland, it's good to see the comedy continues. At some point maybe they'll decide they don't want to be the joke of northern Indiana. The officer probably went to far, but the Snyders go out of their way to aggravate everyone around them!

Posted by: Randy Location: Indianapolis on Sep 18, 2007 at 08:03 AM
I am not defending Mr. Snyder. He appears to be a low life piece of scum...HOWEVER, what Tiller did is criminal and he should be held accountable.

Posted by: Cecil Location: roseland, indiana on Sep 18, 2007 at 04:52 AM
this is obvious police brutality, obviously uncivil conduct by the other council member who cussed, I truly hope the cop gets justice by receiving reprimand.. but the cop will get off.. this is why I hate corrupted police officals.. they are bad to the bone, they beat people, lie about it, frame people and the cops gets off, yet the victim is CHARGED WITH A FELONY... The beaten council member was behaving in a TOTALLY LAWFUL MANNER, and he is a member of the local town council.. this is so totally outrageous it makes me hate bad cops. Unless some real justice is made here I will always distrust law enforcement.. this case is CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT.. the cop committed felonies, beating, false arrest, false charges, yet the cop will go free while the law abiding council member is charged with a felony.. outrageous totally completely OUTRAGEOUS, and this is on tape..imagine what happens if you are the wrong race, in the wrong place, innocent, but the cop is angry. we need justice, not violenc.

Posted by: Donald Location: Lebanon, IN on Sep 18, 2007 at 12:16 AM
The town marshall let his emotions of all the mouthing (by all parties) get the best of him and he just went ballistic. A person with that temperment has no business being a cop. The town marshall should lose his job, he should be prosecuted, and Snyder should win a lawsuit against the city.

Posted by: Eddie Location: Anderson, Ind. on Sep 18, 2007 at 12:07 AM
Ted Penn just exposed himself as the biggets liar in the history of the world. What an embarrassment he is to himself and this community. he should immediately resign, and if he told that story to officers, he should be prosecuted for false informing.

Posted by: Eric Location: Michigan on Sep 17, 2007 at 11:13 PM
I'm glad this was caught on tape. This officer undoubtedly will be fired and prosecuted and also sued. Snyder getting bashed by the officer was undoubtedly uncalled for, but it winds up being a good thing for this community in one way. It gets this policeman off the street before he does something even worse. I greatly question whomever hired this person to start with and question their judgement. I would be looking into that also if I was a citizen of this community.

Posted by: Steven Location: Cloverdale on Sep 17, 2007 at 10:47 PM
The policeman was wrong. He should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Snyder no doubt will sue and win, and he should. The councilman who lied his butt (apparently not realizing there was a tape of the incident) should immediately resign for his blatent lying. He should be prosecuted also for false informing.

Posted by: Bill Location: Terre Haute on Sep 17, 2007 at 10:44 PM
What a sickening display by that fat rent-a-cop wannabe. I love police officers and I think for the most part they get a bad rap. They do a job that the rest of us don't want to do and I very much appreciate it. But this Tiller guy has no business being a cop and should be in jail for his actions.

Posted by: Jim Location: Indiana on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:57 PM
There was absolutely no resisting arrest at all. The police officer shoved the guy through the door with tremendous force and then continually hit on the guy after he was on the ground. The camera caught about three punches by the cop but there was a slight delay so there were probably many more. The police officer should be fired and prosecuted, and I hope Snyder sues. And Ted Penn's "explanation" of what happened is just laughable. Talk about a made up fairytale. After seeing the tape and then hearing what Penn had to say, nobody should ever believe anything this "man" has to say. What a liar.

Posted by: Dan Location: Los Angeles on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:55 PM
Arrest the officer, suspend the concil member look at the window reflection of the door. You see snyder walking out when pushed by the officer. I really do not believe that snyder can move that fast with his camera, elbowing and pushing the officer while the officer pushed him outside. The the blows the officer did, look at the other officers expressions as to know not to get involved since the officer has enough brute force to stop snyder. If syder was resisting arrest the other officers would have stop snyder. Sorry Roseland you need to control your Police officers more than your protesters

Posted by: Wes Mantooth on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:27 PM
When I first saw Mr. Snyder with his head wrapped in gauze, my first reaction was "GREAT, HE FINALLY GOT THAT FRONTAL LOBOTOMY"! Then reality set in - there is nothing inside his cranium to lobotomize.

Posted by: Larry Location: Corpus Christi, Texas on Sep 17, 2007 at 07:34 PM
I am originally from NW Ind. (moved here 3 years ago) I hate to tel enyone that I lived anywhere near Roseland... The Snyders are nothing but Trailer Trash. Witness the fact he owes a LOT of child support and, wow, he talks to his child once a month... By the way it did hit the TV news (all 3 stations) down here with a brief history of the Snyders... You people in Roseland should never disparage Rednecks 'cause you are them...

Posted by: tiffany sims Location: st joe on Sep 17, 2007 at 07:32 PM
i think that the cop was in the wrong, from the looks of the vidoe the cop pushed snyder out the door. and how could have hit him if his hands are full with a camr in one hadn and papers and books in the other. i think that cop should have his gun and bage taking away, and he should do some kind of time for his action. why because they are shown how to handle casese in a more better way then the way he did

Posted by: Denny Quenan Location: Bremen on Sep 17, 2007 at 06:41 PM
Snyder is unfit as a leader....or anyone to be looked up to! He does have the right to speak and not be assaulted! Charges, should be filed! Come on "Kids", if you can't play together?

Posted by: The Riddler Location: Gotham on Sep 17, 2007 at 05:45 PM
What does a rouge cop do when the loses all his part-time jobs because every is freaked he pushes people down and punches them a dozen times? He spends the day voting 400 times on the WNDU poll "he is not a bad cop, he is not a bad copy, he is not a bad cop."

Posted by: Jay Location: Granger on Sep 17, 2007 at 05:42 PM
It's too bad the cop couldn't beat all the owed child support out of Snyder, along with his pride. David and Dorothy Snyder have done nothing but create headlines and problems for the town of Roseland. All he does is creates distraction from anything needing to get done and spends most of the time he should be working, in jail. He needs to be removed by the people of Roseland or the coucil should be disbanded. I'd have no problem with Indiana selling what's left of Roseland to the state of Michigan. Expand Niles. Adding more "crazy" people won't hurt anything.

Posted by: carol on Sep 17, 2007 at 05:31 PM
what are you teaching our children when you are acting like kids!!

Posted by: Nancy Location: Osceola on Sep 17, 2007 at 05:08 PM
I think it a shame that grown people act so childish. The town council was elected to uphold the law. I feek that a whole new board should be elected. Dave & Dorothy Snyder should resign and leave the town of Roseland to conduct business without inferference. They have caused problems for far to long with the town of Roseland. RESIGN AND GIVE US ALL A BREAK.

Posted by: Randy Location: Indianapolis on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:22 PM
As a former police officer for 12 years, I too rarely side with the perp... HOWEVER, this Tiller guys goes far and above any sane use of force continuim. To be honest according to the take, Synder calls him a bully (not a crime) and Tiller starts his Bull Dog run on him. I hope the prosecutor will take this to grand jury and if indited they take Tiller to jail. Tiller, you are a disgrace to those you serve, serve with, and to the ones that came before you. You make me sick. With a little luck you will never hold the power again..practice this line .... "Welcome to Walmart"

Posted by: Ryan Location: Wilmington, NC on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:07 PM
This sort of behavior is 100% unacceptable. If I remember correctly, I was taught that sticks and stone may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. Officer Tiller must've not been paying attention during this childhood lesson. Tiller needs to be charged with assault and promptly removed from duty. An example needs to be made of him. It's called democracy, each of us has a voice,and should be allowed to use it. Just because a Police Officer doesn't agree with whatever it was that was said, he has ABSOLUTELY NOT RIGHT to abuse his position of authority in this manner. In this great nation of ours, we lead by example. Officer Tiller needs to be reminded of this.

Posted by: Henry Location: Chicago on Sep 17, 2007 at 02:05 PM
The problem in clearly the Penns. Ted Penn is an accomplished liar, nothing he said on the tape is true. He claimed David hit the officer, but David's hands were full carrying the camera, tripod and a stack of papers and folders. He could never have managed to sucker punch the overweight cop. Ted Penn is a liar and so is that fat, sorry excuse for an officer, Jack Tiller. The video clearly shows David trying leave and then Tiller just out and out attacked him. Tiller is the one who should be in jail facing felony assault charges. I sure am glad I don't live in this hick town where the likes of Penn and Tiller have made it into their own little despotic dictatorship.

Posted by: KEN Location: BLAZIER on Sep 17, 2007 at 01:47 PM
It's time to clean house.Tax payers need to replace all of them.What do you think the kids think of this kids in office......

Posted by: Jodi Location: Osceola on Sep 17, 2007 at 01:17 PM
Roseland definitely has it's share of problems, but I can't help but wonder why the Snyder's stay? Do they enjoy the continual onslaught of abuse? How much longer until someone is hurt even more seriously?

Posted by: Somebody Location: South Bend on Sep 17, 2007 at 01:04 PM
First of all, in the video, David Snyder is already on the ground. So why does Jack Tiller continue to pound on him?! That is way too much force. Jack Tiller needs to step down. And shouldn't be allowed to be a police officer anywhere else. As for his wife saying that people are smearing her husband Jack's image, he did that to himself. The Snyders do act crazy and cause a lot of trouble, but that doesn't change the fact that what Jack Tiller did is very wrong.

Posted by: Mary Location: Niles on Sep 17, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Roseland needs to pray for each other as well as themselves personally. There is so much evil in that town hall/council. I do not agree with name calling/profanity in a mtg - or ANYWHERE!!!! People need to take responsibility for their own actions and create chaos for others. God is the creator of peace NOT the creator of confusion - looks like these folks need to pray before, during and after their meetings! And what about the LACK of example that they are setting for children and other adults????? No wonder the U.S. is not liked by others - folks can't conduct themselves in a civilized manner!! Grow up and go to God - when you folks aged - you missed the maturity portion - go back and get it!!!!

Posted by: hey Location: not the look out on Sep 17, 2007 at 12:26 PM
ROSELAND Home of the conspiracy gone bad. It works better if it is not caught on tape, and the whole world sees it. Remember that for next time.

Posted by: Jen S on Sep 17, 2007 at 12:22 PM
I think that the town of Roseland should take it upon themselves to elect new council members. Clearly the Snyders want attention to themselves and are not concerned about the town's wellbeing. I think that it would just be best to reset the council and start over with new representives of the town so that maybe they may gain some deginity and respect back. I dont believe that they will be able to obtain this with the current council meetings

Posted by: Somebody Location: Somewhere on Sep 17, 2007 at 12:19 PM
Roseland cops are not getting paid? Guess you get what you pay for - NOTHING. Only someone without any self respect would work and not expect pay. Any they are suppose to be professional? Guess not is not true either. I support real police, who respect themselves and the people that the serve and PROTECT!

Posted by: Dee Location: Mish. on Sep 17, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Glad I don't live in Roseland. So after watching the video, I can't see why David needs that giant bandage on his head?

Posted by: Gerri Location: Niles on Sep 17, 2007 at 11:25 AM
I will agree that the Snyder's and Ms. Gridley have brought shame to Roseland and should remove themselves from anything politically involved with the city. HOWEVER, after watching the video I believe the officer acted unduly and with personal feelings more than feeling a threat to himself. What he did was wrong, what Mr. Penn and Mr. Shields are doing is also wrong. People of Roseland, please take back your city and stop the insanity. Mr. Penn and Mr. Shields were supposed to do that but are making matters much worse. Something needs to be done. I hope that the police officer is investigated by the prosecutor and reprimanded in some way. Shame on this on going saga.

Posted by: stuart showalter Location: boone county indiana on Sep 17, 2007 at 10:48 AM
Police, Judges and Prosecutors are the greatest threat to YOUR safety and liberty. This is again another fine example. Under Indiana law ANY citizen has the right to make an arrest when a felony is committed in their view. Someone should have arrested that officer and used whatever force necessary to effectuate that arrest. 18USC242

Posted by: Victimized by association Location: Pen-sVille you fill in that letter... buy a consonant) on Sep 17, 2007 at 10:32 AM
That person in yellow is Penn's daughter. She has a quality character trait that just runs in the family I guess.

Posted by: Oralia Location: Houston, TX on Sep 17, 2007 at 10:01 AM
IF they do that to a council member, just think what they do to a COMMON CITIZEN? Police are proving to be the biggest criminals and BRUTES alive. With police behaving in this manner, we DON'T need any criminals outside of the police dept! Assuming Tillman had a VALID reason to arrest him, he didn't have to BEAT HIM UP!! And who's the IDIOT that keeps saying "you did that to my dad, how do you like it now?" SHE IS SETTING HERSELF UP TO BE BEATEN by the POLICE. REMEMBER, 2 WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!! NEITHER DO 3! DISGUSTING, TOTALLY DISGUSTING THAT POLICE CAN DO THIS AND GET A WAY W/IT!!!

Posted by: Marie Location: Roseland on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:54 AM
THE PROBLEM is TEDDY PENN and his group of trailer trash. Snyders were here for YEARS before THE PENNs moved in and picked victims and lied about everything. WHAT HAVE THE SNDYERS done wrong? Violated constitutional rights? NO, they just enforced a requirement to get a permit for signs - all signs. oh Penn lied to you about that one. And Snyders were POWER crazy! No, they enforced town code that said you couldn't have 5 cars in your yard that didn't work, and six dogs under your porch. So Penns lied about that one too. Oh, and the Snyders were so crooked and took all that town money!! Well if that was true, don't you think they would pay back child support and get that monkey off their back? Ultimate sin seems to be that Snyders work to improve themselves and their town. Owning a jaguar is truely the worst thing that somebody can do in Roseland. Snyders are paying car payments too, and yes David pays child support every month. Penn just lies, lies lies.

Posted by: John Location: Not Roseland on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:44 AM
Anyone who thinks that police brutality is rare has their head buried in the sand. Most cops ARE the same. The entry exams they take ensure that they are cowardly followers who won't hesitate to attack people with the slightest provocation--or none at all. If you believe that what you see reported by the mainstream media is even 5% of the criminal activity perpetrated by the police, you are willingly ignorant. I know the police are that bad and I will take care of problems myself before I call some mental reject to arbitrarily beat on everyone within their reach, be they victim or perpetrator. If you are one of the clueless masses, head on over to www.copwatch.com and have a look at the many incidents of police criminality posted every day in this country. If you are one of the sadists who thinks that this is funny, bear in mind that once they're done with city council members and the like, YOU'RE NEXT. If you aren't a cop or one of their political flunkies, you are their enemy.

Posted by: Brian on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:43 AM
Here's a message for the lady in the yellow shirt- taunting the man on the ground: you can take the woman out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the woman. You are an embarrassment!

Posted by: Gloria Location: Rochester on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:42 AM
I think it is time to settle this mess in Roseland once and for all. I think both of the Snyders should be removed from the council. Frankly, we are all tired of hearing about this problem. The towns problem is "The Snyders".

Posted by: Cheryl Location: Michigan on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:41 AM
I feel bad for the normal people of Roseland....I wish the Snyders would just pack up and move away so we can quit hearing about them. The Snyders give Roseland a bad name.

Posted by: K Location: Orlando, FL on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:22 AM
So the cop would get a misdemeanor for a brutal assault on a citizen who clearly was just trying to leave, yet if a citizen assaults a cop in the same way I bet it would be a felony. I hope that man files suit against the town and the department and those of you who live there should be ashamed to have such miscreants on your police force. It's easy to have a jack booted thug beat the crap out of someone who has differing political or social views right? Let someone elses knuckles get bloody doing your dirty work. There was a guy in Germany in the 30's who used the same tactics you know..

Posted by: NO SNYDERS IN NILES! Location: Niles, MI on Sep 17, 2007 at 09:06 AM
Watch out, Niles. These lunatics are moving on. After leaving Roseland bankrupt and padding their own bank accounts, the Snyder's are looking at moving to Niles Township. Don't let them NEAR your town government offices or Niles Township will be the next town turned into a bankrupt laughing stock on national television. Perhaps they'll but a Porsche to go along with their Jags (yet still manage to never pay off David Snyder's $100,000 child support arrearage).

Posted by: Super Dave Location: South Bend on Sep 17, 2007 at 07:25 AM
It sickens me to read all the comments by all the morons across the country. Because a fat slob of a town Marshall goes overboard the majority of you think all police are the same. If you think the police are that bad then call sombody else with your problems. For all you ignorant people out there, if Tiller were to be charged with battery, it would be a misdemeanor and not a felony.

Posted by: swarms909 Location: Eugene, OR on Sep 17, 2007 at 01:38 AM
Honestly, I am all for police brutality. I figure with more cases of brutality, there will be more cool videos to watch of some crack head/city councilman getting pwned by a billy club. It's sad that police brutality is so uncommon. You've gotta figure that we hear about most instances of brutality in this country since it is so egregious, and we don't really hear about that many instances. Come on, Cops, a harsh glare or a cuss word can be considered resisting arrest! Provide swift justice!

Posted by: Angela Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 11:56 PM
My heart and prayers go out to the Roseland Residents during this time. I cannot believe the county or state has not stepped in to help this small town. I do think the police went too far after looking at the video. He fell thru a door, had a camera tripod in one hand and cannot understand how he could have taken a swing at an officer when you are face down in glass. I know he and his wife have been a problem for the town, but they are still human beings and have rights just like the rest of us. I do think the officer needs counseling, his remarks, his actions, and his body language is a cry for help. In the next election, the town needs to clean the slate and elect new people that will represent them and rid them of bitterness, anger, and hatred. Roseland needs to talk to the state and its representatives for help in getting their town back and firing all that are causing the downfall of this town publically.

Posted by: Trixie Location: Niles Twp on Sep 16, 2007 at 11:21 PM
The Snyder's and their sidekick Cheryl Gridley all need to be run out of Roseland. I just hope they run east or west, not north to Michigan.

Posted by: Silent Observer Location: Close Enough on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Why does all the finger pointing and blame game fall only to the Snyders?Shame on them, but that's THEIR disparagement.All breathing human beings have sinned at some degree,intentionally or not.What have YOU done that someone didn't agree with?If not, I want to be YOUR neighbor.The Snyders,like the President,will disappear after their terms are over if we let them.David still has to finish his term.Hear Ye,People of Roseland,you don't even have to talk to them while fetching your mail (current morale of the town anyway).The current council doesn't seem to be handling things any better either.They must have taken notes from Snyder.Eight months to take back the town and are they trying to prove? Dictatorship? Childish selfishness? My todder son has shown more manners and ethics than 30-40 residents that "show support" about their town's interest.The town does have many other opinionated residents that exercise maturity by *NOT* voicing up (about 200),or rather it be WHINE for their way.

Posted by: James Location: Elkhart on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:57 PM
It seems to me that Roseland is indeed of State assistance. Other than expressing his FREEDOM OF SPEECH it seems to me that David Snyder done nothing wrong. I know police work is difficult but to take it to this extent is wrong. I hope David files suit against Roseland and the police officers involved are removed. Just remember this could be me or you, over something so ridiculous.

Posted by: Greg Location: Mishawaka on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:29 PM
Yeah, I do feel sorry for David's parents. He has caused them unimaginable pain by his actions in Roseland for many years. And no, I don't care how his spirits are or whether or not he is healing.

Posted by: Jim Location: New Carlisle on Sep 16, 2007 at 08:57 PM
Looks to me Snyder has a million dollar law suit going for him .. that cop should be removed and never be law enforcement again.

Posted by: Dorothy Snyder Location: GreaterDownTown Roseland on Sep 16, 2007 at 08:41 PM
As a former St Joseph County Police officer, I think people should stick to this issue of police brutality and civil and constitutional rights. WNDU has an earlier story about custodial and non-custodial parent issues. So if people want to discuss child support that would be a good place. I invite everybody to http://www.myspace.com/RoselandIndiana to see what lenghts have been gone to, to keep video cameras being used at the Roseland town hall. Guess we all know why now. If you care, David's spirits are good and he is healing well. Please pray for Rev. Russell and Alice Snyder, David's parents. This has been very stressful on them. Thank you, Dorothy Snyder

WNDU has confirmed that an earlier post claimed to be Dorothy Snyder. It was not and that post was removed. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Common Sense Location: OC on Sep 16, 2007 at 07:53 PM
IF you look at the reflection from a window/mirror in the hallway, you can tell that this cop is totally guilty of battery.

Posted by: AJ Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 07:31 PM
"Very Angry," I've met Jack Tiller, you haven't. Stop talking now.

Posted by: Interesting Location: Michigan on Sep 16, 2007 at 07:29 PM
Owing child support has nothing to do with the fact that the police officer used excessive force when he shoved Mr. Snyder. I hope Snyder does sue the township. We all know that most child support orders are trumped up pre-welfare that the State benefits from anyways.

Posted by: Escaped Roseland Location: Indiana on Sep 16, 2007 at 06:38 PM
Anyone wonder why Dorothy drives a Jaguar, David is hundreds of thousands of dollars behind in support and the town of Roseland is missing thousands of dollars - and their officers aren't being paid??? South Bend would be smart to annex them and get rid of the town all together.

Posted by: Very Angry Location: Granger on Sep 16, 2007 at 06:03 PM
Okay people, here's the reality. There is an armed cop, right now, on the loose with no one to contain or confine him answering to no one. He could very well pull you over in Roseland for driving without a seatbelt or some other equally heinous crime, drag you out of your car and beat the snot out of you, charge you with feloniously assaulting an officer and let you spend the weekend in jail. If there were no one to video record the event, your life as you know it would be over. Why is this cop still on the loose? Is there no one to charge him and pull his badge and gun? Forget the town council, forget the Snyders, focus on the reality.What's to keep this from happening to you? We are all lucky that WNDU managed to capture and present this to the public.Drive slowly through Roseland, your life may depend on it.

Posted by: Sharon Location: Elkhart on Sep 16, 2007 at 05:58 PM
I personally feel that Roseland is a big joke and the laughing stock of Northern Indiana. It is time that the State stepped in and fired all of them and took control. I'm surprised that someone hasn't stomped both of the Snyder's sooner.Maybe if the Media stopped covering all of their foolishness, they would grow up and act like civil human beings. I really feel that most of this is all put on for the camera.

Posted by: Woody Location: Dunlap on Sep 16, 2007 at 05:09 PM
Video of the altercation does not show the entire event. But Snyder has a history of showing his true nature. A true nature which does not represent a law abiding citizen of this great country. What is quite apparent is the arrogance of Snyder for his non-payment of child support, hiding his money under his wife's name on documents, both of them driving expensive foreign cars, opening a business and the profits being protected from child support siezure by being under his wife's name and in total not being a man of virture. Always remember that virture is based on truth and when Snyder says he cannot pay support for his children it is quite apparently a lie. Remember he says he cannot pay support but that is HIS CHOICE and not reality. A car is more important than his off-spring. His choice of not supporting his children is proof he is less of a man and more of a mouse.

Posted by: Chuck Location: Walkerton on Sep 16, 2007 at 05:07 PM
Hey Dorothy, I have news for ya hatchetface, your husband is a dang DEADBEAT!!!!!!!! If it were anyone else they'd be in jail. Don't hand out that line about not being able to work. He helped make them (Unfortunately for the ex-wife) so he needs to be a real man and except the responsibility that comes with being a parent. The reason that Roseland is the joke of the country right now is you and your wife, er I mean husband. You 2 aren't fooling anyone. Neither is that other clown Cheryl. Least I know you can't throw me out of this forum.

Posted by: Jim Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 05:02 PM
With David wearing his "turban", it shows his true colors. And we thought Al Quaida lived in the East. Same terroristic tactics, same "poor me" attitude. David, WHERE'S THE MONEY?

Posted by: steve Location: new carlisle on Sep 16, 2007 at 04:17 PM
after the police officer started out the door with snyder there is almost 2 min where you cannot see anything. a police offer does have the right if he is escorting you out of a building to use force to remove you. yes it appears Tiller pushed him to the glass doors, did snyder hit the officer as he was going out? he is several feet away from his books and camera. and when he is on the ground it appears he is trying to keep his arms under him. if you read Dorthy Snyders comment you can tell this is all staged to get more out of taxpayers pockets to pay his long overdue support. Hey Dorthy sell the Jaguar and pay his kids. Also if the county police called my wife and said you need to come to the hospital for me, she wouldnt have stopped at the town hall first so she can make an appearance on TV. The Snyders need to grow up, move out, get jobs and pay support. if i was so far behind with no way to pay then id be in jail at least every weekend would be behind bars.

Posted by: Sad Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 04:07 PM
To those of you who do not live in Roseland-do not judge everyone in town by the people on the council or the people always in attendance at the meetings. There are others in town (young and old) who are totally embarassed by the actions of EVERYONE at the meetings,both the town board and those in the audience.Roseland used to be a nice community to raise your family. The older generation, some of whom have lived in Roseland 50 years, are saddened by the way things are now. Thanks to the Snyders and their antics the past few years,the town is the laughing stock of this area, the northern part of the state, and far beyond. David, it is hard to believe you grew up as a preacher's kid. Must not have listened too well in church or Sunday school!

Posted by: Jake & Elwood Location: Not sure what to call this town anymore on Sep 16, 2007 at 03:33 PM
Stupid is as stupid does. Run Forrest, RUUUNNN. R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Just a little respect.... Music always tames the wild beast. Maybe we should all go visit the nun!

Posted by: charlotte Location: niles on Sep 16, 2007 at 03:19 PM
Dorothy, what the cop did was wrong but ROseland has been your victim for so long. He is a dead beat father and I see that when and if you get money from this the only way it will go to back child support is if the judge orders it and I hope he does every dime of it. Thank God he doesn't see his kids cause now they have a chance of being brought up right without his or your influence, do this country a big favor and move to another country.

Posted by: andrea Location: south bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 03:18 PM
I agree with the rest of the f the people in the northern area, dorthy and david have milked the system and now it is time for them to go. I believe that the only reson he is at hte meeting and still involved is to get his name in the news. I know something needs to be done, but how can roseland recover for david and dorthy as long as the continue to live there. hes claiming the victim to keep getting his name inthe news and sometime it needs to end for the sake of the people who live in roseland and for the town to get back to normal.

Posted by: Rich Location: Niles on Sep 16, 2007 at 03:09 PM
I was certain months ago that Snyder attacked Penn....now I doubt it. Penn obviously gave false testimony to WNDU cameras,I now believe it was Penn and his supporters who started that fight as well. No doubt Snyder is a loser, but this incident is going to make him a martyr. The only good news is his ex will be able to garnish his forthcoming settlement money and take care of his children. Who'd have thought, the people of Roseland and South Bend will be supporting David Snyders family!

Posted by: Doug Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 02:21 PM
Hey Dorothy, how is Roseland supposed to pay you, when you and David (oh, and Cheryl Gridley, of course) have bankrupted them?

Posted by: Sally Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 02:15 PM
Dorothy once again cries "victim", while for years she and David have victimized the entire town of Roseland. Too bad the cop got carried away, because once again, the Snyders ride free on the backs of the citizens of Roseland.

Posted by: Mike Location: Roseland on Sep 16, 2007 at 02:14 PM
Democracy is normally in perpetual crisis. It requires the same constant, alert attention to keep it from going to pot that an automobile does when driven through downtown traffic. If you do not yourself pay attention to the driving, year in and year out, the crooks, or scoundrels, or nincompoops will take over the wheel and drive it in a direction you don't fancy, or wreck it completely. When you pick yourself up out of the wreckage, you and your wife and your kids, don't talk about what "They" did to you. You did it, compatriot, because you preferred to sit in the back seat and snooze. Because you thought your taxes bought you a bus ticket and a guaranteed safe arrival, when all your taxes bought you was a part ownership in a joint enterprise, on a share-the-cost and share-the-driving plan.

Posted by: Jason Location: Elkhart on Sep 16, 2007 at 02:11 PM
Which do you think is more likely, that the smartmouth Snyder took a swing at the officer or that the angry officer took a swing at Snyder? The authority of the badge can attract people to that profession whom we least want to have it. My hunch is that officer Tiller let his anger get the best of him and gave Snyder a little love push that sent him into the doors. Snyder probably took a little push and made a dramatic swan dive into the doors. It's Jerry Springer....

Posted by: Anti-Clark on Sep 16, 2007 at 02:01 PM
Hey Clark, you didn't watch the video then. Watch the Raw video, the full video...Snyder had his hands full..turned back to say something to the cop behind him, then as he turned back around, you can see the cop grab and push him out the door. Snyder NEVER hit the cop.

Posted by: LYNNE Location: OSCEOLA on Sep 16, 2007 at 01:59 PM
THE SNYDERS ARE A BOIL THAT NEEDS TO BE LANCED...THEY BLAME EVERYONE ELSE FOR THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY ALONE HAVE CAUSED ROSELAND..THEY BOTH NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED..THEY LIVE PRETTY GOOD SEEING AS HOW THE TOWN IS BROKE AND THEY HAVE OVERSEAS ACCOUNTS. AND HOW DOES HE GET AWAY WITH BEING THAT FAR BEHIND IN CHILD SUPPORT AND NOT GOING TO JAIL. UNBELIEVEABLE.

Posted by: Unknown Location: Warsaw, IN on Sep 16, 2007 at 01:50 PM
In my opinion, the entire Snyder family is a disgrace to all of northern Indiana. I live in Kosciusko County and go to school at Purdue in West Lafayette and this story made the news down here on WTHR-TV in Indianapolis. I don’t even live in Roseland and this bothers me. Though the video doesn’t show what happened, I would assume after the cop pushed him out of the main doors Mr. Snyder fought back. Why would the officer tackle him to the ground if he didn’t?

Posted by: Kris Location: Osceola on Sep 16, 2007 at 01:50 PM
Dorothy, you (a borderline personality) and that DEAD BEAT, LOW LIFE, BOTTOM FEEDING husband of yours have milked the system for long enough. You have treated the people of Roseland like trash for YEARS, and again you cry "victim". Take whatever you can milk from the government once again, and LEAVE.

Posted by: R.D. Location: South Bend, In on Sep 16, 2007 at 01:10 PM
The County Prosecutor should review the 16 news photos that was aired this morning and charge the Roseland officer with felony assault and battery. He should also be removed and weapon and badge taken--it's no difference than an officer comitting domestic abuse---In fact it is extremely worse. Snyder should never have been arrested--anyone viewing the photos as I did that you aired, can see the officer pushing Snyder through the doors and then assaulting him as he laid on the ground. Snyder did nothing to provoke this--I believe this whole event was set up--look at the pictures of Shields etc.-- You also can see others telling and poking the officer to stop his attack. The deputy prosecutor that charged Snyder with the two (2) misdemeanors should be removed. It is a disgrace trying to cover for this rouge officer--and a slap in the face to Dvorak our County Prosecutor, and the citizens of St. Joe County. Regards, R.D.

Posted by: Ryan Location: California (South Bend property owner) on Sep 16, 2007 at 01:05 PM
What if this hadn't been videotaped? Would we all still think David Snyder's claim of police brutality had merit? I suspect not. From what I've read about Mr. Snyder, he does seem to be a shady character; however that is no excuse for anybody, cop or not, to knock someone down and start pummeling them in the head. He was not armed, he did not appear to provide any resistance, or at least more resistance than anyone would after being assaulted. Regardless of what you feel about the Snyders, you'd have to be oblivious to the law and the bill of rights to say that Tiller's actions were justified. I don't care if Tiller is making $6/hr, $0/hr, or is paying Roseland so he can wear a badge and blue suit. Not everybody is coolheaded and rational enough to be a cop, and I suspect Mr. Tiller will be looking for a new line of work shortly.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:43 PM
Dorthy-He calls them at least once a month. Come on, my daughters dad doesnt leave around here and he calls her everyday.

Posted by: Tamra Location: Goshen on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:28 PM
I think it is time for the Snyders to go. They have caused enough pain to the town of Roseland. I feel sorry the people in the town.

Posted by: Steve Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:23 PM
This is shameful and will now likely get national press attention. It is pretty clear that the police officer abused his authority. This is NOT how I want police to behave in our community and he should be disciplined for the abuse. Also, I call upon the County Prosecutor refuse to prosecute David Snyder. He is guilty perhaps of boorish behavior but not of assault, resisting arrest, and disorderly conduct. He was on his way out of the building but the officer did not let him leave. Good luck to Roseland as they will likely now have to pay the Snyders for years. The officer has given him a sympathy vote now.

Posted by: Nigel Location: Trion on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Still, you have to ask yourself: If the woman hovering around the incident with her camera had been a relative/friend of David Snyder's, would she have been allowed to continue documenting?

Posted by: Karen Location: Michiana on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Roseland sounds like a 3 ring circus. I have been following the news here for a few years now. I think there are 2 sides and no one has an objective. I see only one solution for Roseland AND the Snyders that would make everyone happy, The Snyder's have to move. I don't know them, I don't know who is in the right or the wrong, but seems like the only thing that might bring the town some peace and maybe the Synders as well. And I think Mr. Snyder should consider moving closer to his child. Thats my 2 cents.

Posted by: EFLTeacher Location: South Korea on Sep 16, 2007 at 11:56 AM
If that was really Dorothy Snyder writing, I just want to say one thing. What a big pack of lies about David not having time to call his kid. You make time for those you love. Once a month! I consider that someone who really doesn't care about his child. I bet he calls his friends more than he calls his child. I hope every penny he ever makes in his life goes to that child. If a person can't take care of their children they shouldn't procreate in the first place. And the whole Roseland should be absorbed into one of the larger cities near it. It's a waste of taxpayers money to have to put up with the nonsense that occurs in the town council meetings. It's bad enough that people in Michigan have to hear Indiana news only, we also have to continuously have to hear about all the high school drama that happens at the Roseland town council meetings.

Posted by: Unknown Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 11:26 AM
I do not like what Snyders have done, but from the start of the video, That cop is out of line, David had his hands full, sure he ran his mouth but its his freedom of speech, the old guy cussed at him as well, I would of fought to if that cop grabbed me an caught me off guard with my hands full. The couple of people posting saying cop was right. You are out of line, The crowd pushed the camera away twice trying to cover the beating up. When David was down he was not struggling at all,yes he was mouthing off but I would have to. Maybe one hit to subdue him, but not three or four blows the mans arm was limp when he jerked it to cuff him. Well guess Davids child support just got paid and then some, I bet the personal injury attorneys are lined up at Davids front door. No more Roseland it will belong to Dorthy and David cause the town will not have enough money to pay them off. Cop should be charged with the felony.

Posted by: Lee Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 11:12 AM
I am so tired of hearing about the Snyders. No one even cares about them except to make a story for the news. Is there anyway to get them out of the council? They are ruining life for everyone who lives here.

Posted by: VoodooScoot Location: New Orleans, LA on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:57 AM
I've since moved from Elkhart, but I keep up with the news in Michiana. While I think the Snyders should just walk away from Roseland politics, it appears, it appears from your video, that David Snyder's rights were violated. It looks like this officer used excessive force to restrain Mr. Snyder. The officer's actions are inexcusable to say the least.

Posted by: Tim Location: Niles on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:56 AM
I know one thing for sure. I will NOT be going anywhere near the town of Roseland.

Posted by: Chris Location: Goshen on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:55 AM
I never saw the cop get hit on that video. He pushed Snyder from behind proving he's nothing but a bully and he shouldn't be allowed in those meetings. He clearly has it out for Snyder. Glad I haven't been to Roseland in years.

Posted by: Jeff Location: Granger on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:52 AM
Snyder at some point conned the town of Roseland into electing him. He made a mess of Roseland, robbed them of any dignity they did have and refuses to leave. The Federal, State, and local government officials are afraid to step in or are just not intelligent enough to figure out what to do. How he gets away WITHOUT PAYING CHILD SUPPORT I don’t know. And now he’s pushed a police officer passed the breaking point. I can’t understand why the local officials in this county have allowed this type of behavior to continue. If this fruit cake (Snyder) was John Q. Public he’d still be in jail for NOT paying the child support and this whole thing would have never happened.

Posted by: AMERIVET Location: WI on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:48 AM
I see Mr hero in blue's wife was afraid to comment. Obviously, she doesn't was the hero in blue to do the same thing to her. Probably would NOT be the first time. Do you "Roselanders" get laughed about daily??

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:28 AM
I am anxious to see how the judge and jury see this. The video indicates snyder was abused. Rev. Penn and Marshall Tiller say another, so do we trust our eyes or the politician and his officer?

Posted by: joe Location: south bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:28 AM
all you people sticking up for tiller must be a dirty cop or related to one. I bet he could have killed snyder and you would be sticking up for tiller. I can't stand snyder but come on.

Posted by: Gene Location: Boulder on Sep 16, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Where on Earth is Sharpton when you need him?

Posted by: Angie Location: Granger on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:52 AM
For crying out loud, South Bend doesn't need Roseland to embarass them, they already have Notre Dame!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:51 AM
After watching the tape I wonder what kind of sympathy David is looking for by wearing the turban. Get over yourself and be a man instead of a taunting bully! He just dares everyone all the time and really enjoys it when he gets someone to go over the top. Puke!

Posted by: Melissa Location: Mishawaka on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:42 AM
I don't necessarily like David Snyder. Because he is not only scum bag, he's a scam artist, he treats everybody like they're children (just listen to how he talks to the other committee members, like they're children), oh and he doesn't pay child support. I agree that he was brutalized here and that he should sue. Then maybe he could take that money and give it to the children of his that don't ever get his attention. I also hope this officer gets in trouble for this.

Posted by: Big Daddy Location: SF on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:35 AM
The standard of grammer and punctuation in this thread beggars belief. Did any of you submitters study English at any stage?

Posted by: Jim Location: S.Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:30 AM
Small town politics at its worst. This town council has been an embarassment for a while with the poor budget management and in-fighting. The cops already work there for free and now some jerk tests them in a public meeting, Maybe he deserved being put in his place and taken out with the rest of the trash

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:27 AM
I think the so called town of Roseland is an embarassment to our community. What must visitors to our community think when they watch the news. It reminds me of the Hatfields and the McCoys, making a move back, not forward. Maybe they should become a part of South Bend since they aren't doing such a bang up job of being a town.

Posted by: Richard Location: Edwardsburg on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:27 AM
Fascism. Why was a citizen only given one minute to talk in a public forum? Test for steroids in our police officers. The police state offers lies and the ignotrant citizenry eats them up like soilent green. Corruption and destruction of our Constitution seem to pervade all levels of government.The complicit media "covers the story" with patriotic blinders on, declaring any voice who would protest as anti-american. Sheeple are beginning to awake. Look for the original 13th amendment. It was never repealed. Is it still active? If so, many of these fascists have a lot to answer for. **Ron Paul-2008**

Posted by: makehimpay Location: osceola on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:20 AM
Hey Snyder Fan in Warsaw...if someone ignores their personal OBLIGATIONS, how can they be trusted in public office? You just don't get it and never will.

Posted by: Mz Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:11 AM
Jack Tiller is NOT a liar, he is far from it, he is a great cop and a great citizen, Roseland sucks and should be ashamed that they have allowed this to happen. PAY these officers what you owe them, I would have told you to go fly a kite the first time I didnt get a paycheck, Roseland is lucky they even have officers willing to do their job for NOTHING!!!!

Posted by: amazed Location: Crown Point, IN on Sep 16, 2007 at 09:04 AM
Not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but just after Snyder passes through the door and turns around to look back, that's when you see the officer begin shoving him. Snyder, with his hands full and most likely the inability to swing at the officer, is then seen in the reflection of the window to his right, appearing to be stumbling and falling into the glass door. Not really sure where the resisting comes in, considering the video next shows the officer punching him. This "town" is comic relief to anyone who watches and could easily get a spot on Comedy Central's Reno 911!, rather "Roseland 911!" The state needs to dissolve this town and its assets and let South Bend take control. These "leaders" clearly have no position leading anyone, let alone controlling taxpayers money. Give it up Roseland; fly the white flag.

Posted by: Guenther Location: Benton Harbor, Mi on Sep 16, 2007 at 08:57 AM
The police man in roseland was totaly out of line. He has no right to beat a man on the ground no matter what had happend. The police man was not attacked. Bullys with badges are not needed and he needs to go. I was in a similar insedent and could not get exposure from you

Posted by: Amy Location: Mishawaka on Sep 16, 2007 at 08:56 AM
I cannot believe after watching the video, that it is not obvious the cop was in the wrong....You can arrest someone, but not beat them up...Can we say I must have forgotten to take my Prozac this morning honey

Posted by: TJ Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 08:55 AM
Let the judge sort this out! Why is it that The Snyder's are still even allowed to BE in Roseland? It is unfortunate that The Tiller's have been dragged through the mud for the BS of The Snyder's to once again abuse the system for financial gain! That's what this all boils down to, The Snyder's living high off the hog and continue to embezzle the system! When will The Snyder's finally be ejected from Roseland all together?? People need to understand there are families involved in this mess and its wrong to subject them to it! Cheryl Gridley needs to step up to the plate and admit she is in this for financial gain as well! She is in thick as thieves with The Snyder's and they all should be forced out of office and town. The 3 of them should be ashamed of bringing the town of Roseland to the Craphole of the US!

Posted by: Pat Location: Niles on Sep 16, 2007 at 08:38 AM
Prior to this incident I thought the Snyders were the entire problem, not so I guess. The town should be disbanded or taken over by another government. What an embarresment to citizens in this area. Charlie and the police have finally given creditbility to the Snyders, Congratulations Roseland.

Posted by: Unamed Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 07:35 AM
why do we pay so much attention to the Synders? It just gives the more power. BTW I wonder where they came up with the money for the Jaguar they drive. They can have fancy cars but Mr Snyder can pay his child support. Hmmmmmm... makes one think.

Posted by: Lee Location: New York City on Sep 16, 2007 at 07:32 AM
How can 33% say this didn't go to far? What the heck is wrong with you people? I am amazed by this fact.

Posted by: Pam Location: Elkhart on Sep 16, 2007 at 07:16 AM
Clearly Roselan is in need of Intervention. I feel someone in Government needs to step in before someone is seriously injured. It is apparent that the Snyders are provoking, looking for a reason to sue and line their pockets with Government cash! They may just have found that reason with this inexcusible police behavior.

Posted by: Dale on Sep 16, 2007 at 07:02 AM
Ok on a side note too this . David snyder owes his children allot of money he claims he has no way too pay . I did notice his wife was driving what looked like a Jag in her interview . How much is that worth towards paying your children what you owe Mr. Snyder

Posted by: anon Location: south bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 07:02 AM
There is something you are all missing. Charlie Shields apologizes for using foul language in front of a CHILD! What a great way to teach our future generations RESPECT for police and government.

Posted by: Doug Location: Goshen on Sep 16, 2007 at 06:54 AM
The city of Roseland voted these morons in, and therefore they are getting what they deserve - they are a complete laughing stock. There is only one possible fix - fire the lot of them in a recall vote, other than that, and you are nothing but a laughing stock. I saw the tape, good move Barney Fife.

Posted by: Staff Sergeant Location: Middle East on Sep 16, 2007 at 06:46 AM
Civil Servant. Peace Officer. Code of Ethics. Lets try not to lose sight of these. Having seen it once or twice before, I'm having great difficulty identifying any hint of a threat to Tiller. Disgraceful. Word to the wise - anyone who takes no issue with the obvious random enforcement of laws in order to appease their own resentment toward Mr. Snyder - you are playing a very dangerous game. Would you feel the same if someone you cared for was in a similar predicament? Don't answer, just think. Mr. Snyder's popularity within the community has no relevance to this issue. It certainly does not authorize assault and battery - and that's what this is - under color of a badge, simply because YOU think he had it coming. Vengeance is no mans right. Someone once said, "Don't open doors you are not prepared to walk through."

Posted by: Aibertodomingo Location: california on Sep 16, 2007 at 05:54 AM
What shock, what awe... to see this in America, a policeman so bold as to take it upon himself to attack an elected representative! Where are we living? Check that officer for steroid abuse. Do not just fire him make an example of him. All over this country police have felt they can ratchet it up. Peace officers are repeatedly violating people rights. It is time for media and the courts to set this right. Strip this officer of his authority. Send him to jail. Send a message.

Posted by: a christian policeman Location: south bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 05:02 AM
Bash the police all you want, but just remember that, when your asking for there help!!!! the officers in roseland, should not be judged by one persons action. the lord and the savior asks us to forgive, and have compassion. and that means for both sides!

Posted by: Rocky Location: California on Sep 16, 2007 at 03:39 AM
It doesn't matter what Snyder said during the meeting, it didn't justify beating him. He obviously said something that enraged the officer, who promptly lost control of himself, something they are supposed to be trained and expected not to do. He should be suspended, pending investigation.

Posted by: Lip Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 02:51 AM
You have to be kidding me ... only 56% believe the police went too far? Wow, that's simply amazing.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Rochester, NY on Sep 16, 2007 at 02:24 AM
This little town is starting to get national recognition for this incident. I can't imagine this kind of crap going on where I'm from, it is scary to see this kind of thing in the United States. The South Bend community and the entire state of Indiana should be embarassed by Roseland's government.

Posted by: Robert Location: Charleston, SC on Sep 16, 2007 at 02:07 AM
1:Is it legal for one council member to order the removal of another council member? 2:Is it legal for police to forcibly remove an elected official from a government meeting? 3:The other police officers should have stopped Tiller. They have a legal obligation to stop crimes in progress.

Posted by: Andy Location: South Bend on Sep 16, 2007 at 01:56 AM
As a local who has listened to news clips about the Snyder drama for what seems the last 10 years but still can't tell who's telling the truth, Can anyone recall what started this whole ordeal? From what I have heard Snyder is a shady character. I remember he owed a large amount of child support that he never paid and I remember he tried to enoforce a an unconstituional law( fining people for putting signs on there lawn that supported Snyders's removal ) But the latest video from the drama shows a Roseland councilman (who isn't Snyder) guilty of Disorderly Conduct. An officer who is clearly guilty of Obstruction of Justice, And Use of Excessive Force. Frankly it's funny watching Snyder and Tiller (who are both a couple of Bottom Feeders) try an lie there way out if this one.

Posted by: Ken L. Location: Roseland on Sep 16, 2007 at 01:09 AM
Jack Tiller is (to say the least) a liar... but who would expect the truth from a Roseland cop? After all, they aren't worth much more than minimum wage for a reason.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:49 AM
I don't know anything about the Snyder's, however the story is the same in every state. There are always families who think because they may have money they feel entitled to abuse the system and be able to do as they want. And they use that power to try to gain further power. Be that as it may, it is not the job of a police officer to decide how to judge those people and punish them. The video shows the officer shoving Snyder from behind for some comment he made. Then there are a few seconds we don't see where possibly Snyder did fight with the officer. But when the video shows the officer and Snyder again it clearly shows the officer pummeling a man who he already clearly had control of. So now instead of just leading the man out of the room, and Snyder losing, the people of that community will lose because of the legal fees and highly possible judgment Snyder may receive. Clearly the residents of the community are the true losers in this.

Posted by: Greg Location: San Diego on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:32 AM
Looks like Tiller the cop just unnecessarily cost the city hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars in unnecessary court and settlement costs. The other persons in the meeting can lie all they want, but the camera doesn’t. Tiller should be charged for his abusive crime and fired. If the city does not do the right thing, it should be sued, as it will loose. Only one person unnecessarily physical attacked anyone in the meeting, Tiller. All of the ridiculous and very non professional representatives’ of the city should be removed from office. Oh yes. This form is only about the story, not grand standing your own political/ personal views about other issues. Please do not post your useless comments and waste all of our time with your useless tangents that do not pertain to this story.

Posted by: garconmagnan@yahoo.com Location: michigan on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:29 AM
wow, A town meeting is for people to air thier issues and that sometimes gets emotional. The police "officer" blew up. He should by fired. god love america.

Posted by: Conrad Location: Indianapolis on Sep 16, 2007 at 12:04 AM
People who think that officer was within his rights are crazy. That was blatant abuse by the officer and I'm glad it was caught on tape. It is so disgusting to hear people covering for him on the tape and the officer telling him to stop resisting because there was no resistance. There should be defense attorneys jumping at this case. As a law student I know I would. I am sick of hearing about Roseland and it's problems and have no respect for the Snyder's but that was extreme and inappropriate and justice should be served.

Posted by: Tribalwarrior Location: Michigan on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:59 PM
Next month the new signs will be installed on the city limits saying "welcome to Snyderville". I am sure that David will be weighing his options with his lawyers. I am sure a settlement will be reached and Roseland can go back to reenacting the Hatfeild & mcCoys. Good luck with resolving the real issues. Keep your hands to yourself.

Posted by: TJ Location: south bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:56 PM
To say the least, WTH! All I know is there is only one person who should be judging all this and it isnt anyone on earth. I am withholding any comments because I was not there and wouldnt want to be involved in that mess, however, I feel for the officers who are doing a very tough job without being paid. Who else (raise your hands) would work for FREE??!! You have to give these officers credit for continuing to serve the public. Thank You Officers for protecting the people!

Posted by: AMEN Location: ROSELAND on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:43 PM
AMEN, cyber reader....that's all I have to say.

Posted by: BRENT Location: SOUTH BEND on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:35 PM
AFTER BEING A POLICE OFFICER FOR MANY YEARS I WAS EMBARRASE BY THE WAY OFFICER TILLER ACTED HE SHOULD BE FIRED AND MR. SNYDER SHOULD SUE HIM I HAVENT SEEN ABUSE LIKE THIS SINCE RODNEY KING VIDEO OFFICER TILLER HOULD DO SOME JAIL TIME AS HE VIOLATED MR. SNYDERS CIVIL RIGHTS

Posted by: B.J. Betties Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:35 PM
I think that that the city of South Bend needs to take control of Roseland. This situation has been going on for far too long. I believe the County and state Police need to come in , with the help of South Bend police officers and get rid of the T. J. Hooker wannabees and also include the Notre Dame Police and take control. I do not believe that Roseland is big enough to have a town council. This is not good publicity for our town. South Bend and our Mayor's office needs to get involved. We do not need anymore violence and this little reality circus that is going on in Roseland. it is corrupt. Between the policfe dept. scandal with Mike Swanson and all this other stuff. Don't they get it that nobody on their council is doing any good. They are all a bunch of angry bitter citizens. Kick their butt's all out and ship them to the friut loop farm. All they care about is getting on camera because nobody else cares about them. Notre Dame needs a respectible community.

Posted by: L C Martin Location: Plymouth on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:27 PM
I feel the media needs to quit publizing the idiots the innocent residents of Roseland had been mislead to represent them--intelligence test should be administered. They should be sent to back to day care so they can learn to treat others with respect and acceptable social behaviors.

Posted by: Heather Location: St Joe MI on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:24 PM
When the police are beating citizens up, it's called POLICE BRUTALITY !!!!! If Tiller has personal issues with Mr Snyder, this is not the forumn in which to settle them !!!!!!

Posted by: Get a grip people Location: Plymouth on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:21 PM
this is a response to another post...if snyder does sue and wins alot of money then he can pay his child support...this roseland stuff is all just a bunch of road apples...lets see how stupid we can be, so we can get all the tv time we can...town marshall tiller was justified in what he did...snyder is a loud mouth who needs to be run out of town...

Posted by: steve Location: madison on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:20 PM
The officer appears to have overstepped his authority... unless the guy, who got his butt whipped, threatened him, or said something about his momma. Small town politics... they're just amature thiefs and stooges, who can't make it in the real world. Cops... probably 30% are bullies, another 25% are on the take, another 5% are idiots with a gun fetish. Steve

Posted by: Richard on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:19 PM
I will say that the Snyder’s are quite a nuisance and that when I first heard this story I figured they were Mr. Snyder was just exaggerating an arrest, but in reviewing the video my opinion drastically changed. I almost hate to say it but I side with the Snyder’s in this one that the police oficer was way out of line. It’s is garbage like that who give police officers a bad name. He represents the scum of police officers that think because they have a badge they can do as they please to civilians. Maybe Snyder had it coming but irregardless he deserves the worst. I’m sorry but this is an issue that really hits home because my uncle is a cop and he represents everything a cop should be and that is fair, just, and a responsible leader who protects not someone who abuses their power.

Posted by: me on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:14 PM
i dont like the snyders anymore then the next person but MARSHALL TILLER is the rudest officer in roseland maybe its a good thing all hes paid is 6.00hr. i think that MARSHALL TILLER should have his badge removed. because he has no respect for anyone regardless who it is. i cant wait until south bend takes over roseland.

Posted by: Brenda Location: Floral City Florida on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:14 PM
I am a family member of the young lady that was found murdered in the park in South Bend, and while reading updates on her story I happened to have to pleasure of watching an episode of Roseland's own version of "trash tv". Watching that video and listening to the daughter acting like a "two year old" was ridiculous. I can't believe that they would be idiotic enough to conduct business that way. Whether he is in arrearages or not does not excuse the action of a bunch of "adults" (and I use that word cautiously). The community that I live in is a one stop light town and we are all a bunch of "rednecks" (and thats a good thing)but we still conduct ourselves in the proper manner in public. Even our officials even though they don't always agree can manage to do that. "Grow up", all of you!!! Focus on solving crime and other violence.

Posted by: Roy Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:13 PM
I was not a witness to the Roseland Circus last nightm but based on what I saw I don't see how anyone who saw only the news clip could conclude who was at fault. History sheds doubt on the character of David Snyder

Posted by: CHRIS Location: BURKET on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:02 PM
ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS WHY DAVID SNYDER ISNT IN JAIL .IWAS 1200.00 BEHIND AND WENT TO JAIL TILL TI WAS PAID!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jon Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:01 PM
1. Childish and unprofessional behavior exhibited by town officials. 2. Police brutality.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:42 PM
Has this cop been but on paid leave while an investigation is being done? He was out of line and should be in trouble. Anyone who watches this video can clearly see this. David Snyder may have been running his mouth but I didnt see him raise his hand or anything in a violent nature. The cop clearly pushed him and abused him when he was down and handcuffed. He better not get away with this. I really think this deserves national attention. Cops should not be allowed to abuse their power. And I feel bad for the town of Roseland. Who elected these people. The town would be better off getting everyone out of office and starting all over.

Posted by: PAUL Location: PALESTINE on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:38 PM
THEY NEED TO FIRE THE COP AND HANG SNYDER!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Winamac IN on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:33 PM
The cop pushed Snyder and stared punching Snyder and should go to jail. Im going to the next meeting and maybe it will be a Jerry Springer show or wrestling match.

Posted by: Lawman Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:30 PM
This Barney Fife wanna be, aka Tiller couldn't be a Cop anywhere but Roseland, well, maybe somewhere in Mexico. He overstepped his boundaries clearly in this event. He gives Cops everywhere a bad name. He is so out of shape and fat, I can't imagine him in any kind of a foot chase. What a waste of resources and time in Roseland! Everyone involved should be totally ashamed.

Posted by: Julie Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:23 PM
My family and I stand behind Officer Tiller.

Posted by: Sandy Location: Roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:12 PM
The Snyders are the best thing that has ever happened to Roseland. My God, that some people believe Teddy Penn for even a minute should be ashamed. Roseland Police have gone off the deep end, but they would rather work and not get paid?? The Snyders ahve been in Roseland a lot longer than Penn and Tiller, and from the looks of it will be here LONG after those two losers are gone. Clean up the council - Teddy Penn and Charlie Shields should quit - Charlie has aready picked out his retirement home down south... he should take Teddy and Rosemary with him.

Posted by: Lori Location: Niles on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:12 PM
I was just wondering--has the Roseland story gone national? We sure are getting posts from some out of Michiana area.

This story has been picked up by the network and is available for any NBC affiliate to air. The network itself also has access to it but have not done much with it so far. If they do still remains to be seen. The story has also been picked up by some popular blogs like Fark.com. Do not be surprised to hear about this story from national sources in the near future. -WNDU.com


Posted by: lori Location: mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:07 PM
I think it's hillarious- he finally got what he deserved. I just wish we could have all taken a punch.

Posted by: Hostage Location: Roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:03 PM
Unfortunately this video is not shocking to residents of Roseland. Rev. Ted Penn (the "witness") has been on a campaign to ruin the Snyders for several years now. Marshall Tiller has had several anger management classes before this outbreak and unfortunately we can't get an elected official removed from office (it has been tried twice in the last year- that why we are broke) the hypocrites have taken over and worse yet is that we are stuck with Rev. Tedd Penn and his vindictive family for a few years yet. Shields and Snyder both lost reelection bids in the primary and end their terms in Dec. Charley Shields is selling his house and leaving town (some say from fear of Tedd Penn) We desperately need some one to step in and save us from this, a federal judge has been involved and trying for about 6 months, for all the good it's done. Please someone remove these elected officials from our nightmare.

Posted by: sue Location: grovertown on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:47 PM
Sadly the Snyders brought this all on themselves. The police are working for the town to serve and protect and working for practically nothing all because of what the Snyders have, and continue to do. Sadly the policeman went to far but I can understand why he did it. Snyder brought a desprate person to this and now that person and many others are too pay. It looks like it is time for Roseland to call it quits and let South Bend take it over to save everyone from the board.

Posted by: TYLER Location: ST. IGNACE on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:44 PM
I THINK THEY SHOULD NOCK OVER THE ROSELAND SIGN AND JUST CALL IT SOUTH BEND. THAT WAY THERE IS NO MORE OF THE SNYDERS. OUT WITH THE SYNDERS

Posted by: WNDU cyber reader Location: Fulton County on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:23 PM
I for one am SICK and TIRED of trying to read the local news and always seeing the SNYDER'S in caption somewhere. When is good ole MITCH going to shut them down. Anyone who lives in INDIANA is tried of hearing and seeing them. They can't take care of personal issues, why can they take care of town counsil issues? As for the local police,maybe a little extra force was added but again maybe MR. SNYDER'S head was a good battering ram for release of frustration on the police officer's part. He is probably tired of them as well. I for one would love to see them move to another state and never have to hear from either again. He should be more worried about his children and paying thousands in back and future support then crying that he and Dorothy have been wronged.

Posted by: Tee Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:21 PM
I used to hate Snyder, but now I think that Penn is lying in this incident and the other one also. His daughter is such a vindictive maniac it is pathetic. I hope Dvorak is smart enough to charge him soon. If not, he won't be prosecutor next time around and that is for sure.

Posted by: Snyder Fan Location: warsaw on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:19 PM
I think all you IDIOTS that are so worried about his child support should pay it. (I know, you think you do,, and it's not just for him so take a chill pill,, im a tax payer too, I don't care who gets it, we don't have a choice,) THERE IS LIFE AFTER CHILD SUPPORT. You make this such an issue,,Its none of YOUR business....That ROTTEN COP needs the same that he gave David Snyder,,no wonder your town is so SCREWED UP!!! Im on the Snyders side,, If I were them I would leave, just to get away from you CRAZY people..

Posted by: Gary Location: Valparaiso on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:19 PM
Nothing better than going to a Town Council meeting and having a Jerry Springer show breakout.

Posted by: kim Location: osceola on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:11 PM
I don't understand why they let this man push there buttons. He seems like he does this just to cause trouble and bring down the name of roseland and now he is everybody along with him. They really need to ignore or pretend he does not exist.They also need to have some county officers who are not to familar with him at the meeting so roseland police are not involved. The snyders are very sad people. They have control issues.

Posted by: SKD Location: Michigan on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:05 PM
What a joke! 1.Unconscious okay that's why in the tape he is laughing at the officer the entire time,the officer is commanding his cooperation without success, look at the video again, he had his hands underneath his body and was not cooperating. If he was unconscious then there wouldn't be a struggle to get him cuffed now would there? 2.What are his "supposed injuries", you see him portraying this wrapped head, I'm really surprised he didn't put on a neck brace too, really play up those injuries! That's what people do when they have something to hide. Why wasn't he showing you the true injury? Stitches, butterfly bandages? Here he is again getting his 5 seconds of fame from WNDU. By the way officers put their lives on the line daily, and have altercations like this daily, reality check people the cameras just aren't there to catch it.

Posted by: shocked Location: south bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:02 PM
Personally, I don't care too much for Mr. Snyder, as he can have his nice cars, but yet still fail to pay his child support. But, that does not necessarily pertain to this incident. All I can say is WOW....things don't look right here. I really want to believe that the officer had every reason to do what he did. But, based on what I saw, I have serious doubts. I understand that the police have every right to use force and even excessive force while trying to apprehend an offender. But, with what I saw, I am having a hard time believing that the force used should have been this excessive. I was not there, did not see what happened, nor do I know personally anyone involved. So, I am just making a judgement on what I thought I saw. It just looked excessive in my eyes!

Posted by: elected official Location: local government on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:00 PM
Mr. Snyder might be an jerk, but he was correct that he was given the floor, and as such, cannot be taken from him. That is his right as a councilman. Also, it appears that police brutality occurred. The president of the town council acted disgracefully, and does not deserve that position. I do not support Mr. Snyder, but the rule of law was disregarded twice tonight in Roseland. Intelligent, young, educated people in Roseland need to run for election in the future. . .

Posted by: embarrassed Location: mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:55 PM
I think its sad when people have to act in such a way as David Snyder, but what officer Tiller did was very wrong and use of excessive force deserves to have his job taken away...this isn't the first time this police officer has been accused of using excessive force either....its no wonder so many people including David Snyder bring video camera's into the town meetings....I think the town government of Roseland is a joke. Its a real shame that grown up people have to act in such a way as to want all the power to themselves, and having a badge is no excuse for roughing up someone. I'm sure the county,and state police will be looking into this matter...Jack Tiller will get his. As for the Snyder's, Ted Penn and Charlie Shields maybe they all just need to be striped of there titles...

Posted by: CHUCK Location: NILES,MI. on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:40 PM
CONGRATULATIONS.GOV. DANIELS .IN DOING NOTHING ABOUT THIS SITUATION.INDIANA IS NOW THE LAUGHING STOCK OF AMERICA.BUT HEY YOU CAN FIX IT EASILY.LEASE OUT ROSELAND TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY

Posted by: Sue Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:40 PM
I absolutely cannot stand the Snyders. Both make me so angry to see them or hear them. I cannot believe they haven't been removed from their positions in town government. I think the police officer has totally had it dealing with the Snyder's over the years plus who knows what slimey comment David made as he was escorted out. Good for Tiller. That was a long time coming.

Posted by: WOW Location: HERE on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:58 PM
WE KEEP REFERRING OFFICER TILLER WHEN IN FACT ITS TOWN MARSHALL JACK TILLER HE IS THE TOP COP AT ROSELAND AND I DONT SEE THE TOWN BOARD (TED/CHARLIE)DOING ANYTHING FOR DISIPLINE TO TILLER WHEN HE IS THERE MUSCLE AND TED PENN'S DAUGHTER EVEN SAID WHAT THEY WANT DONE HIT HIM AGAIN FOR MY DAD. SO DOES TED PENN AND FAMILY PAY MARSHALL TILLER HIS $6.00HR FOR THAT ATTACK OR IS IT HIS PART TIME JOB RATE OF $25.00HR OR IS THERE A DISCOUNTED FAMILY RATE FOR TED PENN

Posted by: Paul Location: Oregon, USA on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:52 PM
Apparently he wouldn't shut up, so they were right to evict him. It does appear that the cop could have handled it better, though.

Posted by: Susan Location: Roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:51 PM
I would like to know how long before everyone votes Snyder off the town council as between him and that doll of a wife they have distroyed our town

Posted by: Jamie Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:31 PM
According to Ted Penn's statement, it would appear that Snyder assaulted Tiller first. If this is the case, I feel that a police officer needs to do whatever he has to do to control the suspect. From the video of the takedown, it is not clear what happened. You can't see anything that corroborates (sp?) what Penn said, and from that video alone, it may appear Tiller was excessively forceful. That said, however, it didn't sound like anyone watching the takedown was very alarmed by what they were seeing. Too me, this also supports Penn's statement.

Posted by: paula Location: hohl on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:29 PM
This has got to stop. The community should not have to watch this type of violence every time a roseland meeting is in session! The officer should be fired!! No matter what synder said you can clearly see in the window the violence the "so called Officer" put upon the man. What type of world are we living in? No matter what the man has done wrong, said wrong and so on that doesn't give anyone the right to say and do things they know are not right. This isn't Christian. People please take a look at yourself and put yourself above this type of behavior. I am ashamed to be in the same community as the rest of you. If this is what our community government has come to then I want no part of your community.

Posted by: TIM Location: MICHIANA on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:15 PM
I do think the officer was a bit overzealous but David Snyder deserves it! He and his wife think they can do no wrong and what Man that won't support his children he should be ASHAMED of himself and David Snyder is a Lazy person that should be put on the South bend Trash pickup crew. He and his wife should are an EMBARESSMENT to the Michiana area. St Joe County should incorporate the town of Roseland and get rid of the whole bunch of the hoolagans running it now!!!!!

Posted by: t Location: nappanee on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:13 PM
think about it people. no matter how bad david snyder is as a person, if we did what this officer did, we would be in jail right now. that somewhat tells you what we are dealing with here. corruption for everyone to see. thanks for your protection

Posted by: Nancy Location: Dunlap on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:10 PM
Looks like Pretty-Boy-Snyder has beat the system again.

Posted by: PJ Location: south bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:05 PM
I think it is high time that the snyders get treated with the disrespect they showed to others when his wife was on the counsel. It is nice to see the town give back full force to the snyders.

Posted by: Justice Location: Oregon on Sep 15, 2007 at 07:05 PM
Why aren't we hearing about how the cop has been brought up on charges? He should lose his job and everything he has or will evr have! We hear too much about this kind of abuse by supposed "law enforcement professionals" carry your camera everywhere people, you may need it! How did this thug get to be a cop in the first place? Are the requirements so lax? This whole thing deserves a great big WTF!

Posted by: kris Location: london, UK on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:57 PM
BTW guys, the councilman was holding the camera and tripod on the way out. How he supposedly managed to "hit" a cop one second after they left the room is laughable. Shame on the cops and petty minded members who tink this is an acceptable way to shut people who disagree up.

Posted by: Linda Location: Niles on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:51 PM
I feel so sorry for councel member Charlie Shields. This man did not deserve to be verbally abused by Mr. Snyder. I have know Mr. Shields since he taught school in Niles, Michgan and he is an outstanding person. I truly hope people can see that hurt people put people down. Mr. Snyder has his own personal demons and for whatever reason tries to hurt those around him, maybe it is his child support woes. Was that a Juaguar his wife was driving? Maybe that's where some of the money he owes has gone, tisk tisk.

Posted by: DENNIS Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:49 PM
Roesland has David Snyder and $6.00 per hour cops. What do you expect!

Posted by: kris Location: london, uk on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:48 PM
The cop decked the councilman without provocation. Utter disgrace. The chairman- he's an utter disgrace too. It's all about shutting the councilman up. I hope he sues the daylights out of the police department.

Posted by: chad Location: Iowa on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:46 PM
Regardless of what was said at the table it looked like he was leaving. Synyder must invoke strong feeling and reactions. He had both hands full going through the door. It also shows when he make a comment to the officer, the officer places his hand on the center of Snyder's back and pushes. It looks he like shoved him through the door by the way things are laying on the ground and the reflection. It seems like the officer lost control of his temper and reacted.

Posted by: Toby Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:35 PM
When will this circus end? Shame on the Snyders, Gridley, Penn and Tiller. And by the way, will an investigation be done to find the money that Gridley and the Snyders made off with?

Posted by: brian Location: elkhart,IN on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:23 PM
After watching the video it doesnt seem that Snyder made any move of aggression that would warrant the clearly visible strikes to the back of the head from officer tiller. Not familiar with Roseland at all but it seems the council makes the news quite a bit. Which makes me curious as to what is goin on to cause such tension between council memebers and fellow citizens. Officer Tiller's aprehension of Mr. Snyder was handled very poorly, whether he was struck by Snyder or not. Im sure he felt a real threat from a city council member carrying a tripod. Hopefully more is looked into this matter as im sure is goin to happen and some sort of action is taken against the officer as well as Snyder

Posted by: David Location: Brisol on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:16 PM
Who's right who,s wrong who cares. Is this our tax dollars at work?? If Roseland cannot take care of themselves let someone else do it for them.

Posted by: Theresa Location: Niles on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:15 PM
I think that the council needs to grow up! They are running that town like a bunch of kids. That cop knows he should not have thrown David out the door and on to the ground like that. He should get into trouble.

Posted by: Lee Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:09 PM
I am going to do my best to contact CNN and have this video plastered all over. Jack Tiller should be fired and arrested immediately. Jack has a history of anger and violent behavior. Just because you don't like David Snyder does not mean it is acceptable for the police to act this way. Ted Penn is no better and he is committing a crime of false reporting. Hey Mr. Dvorak what are you waiting on?

Posted by: Halo Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 06:06 PM
This is worse than Jerry Springer! WHY not start over and get new officials in there and ban those people from even having a say so?!? Common Sense - anyone?!?

Posted by: LILLY Location: ELKHART on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:57 PM
Annexing Roseland into South Bend is exactly what David wants. That is why he keeps this up. He knows if he bankrupts the town that is what will happen. He controls what Cheryl Gridley pays even when the council votes otherwise. That is part of why the Roseland residents are so angry, don't let him win. They are fighting for their survival. He deserved much more than what he got. The Roseland residents should be commended for not tar and feathering that vile insane lunatic a long time ago.

Posted by: Kim Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:52 PM
WATCH THE REFLECTION IN THE DOUBLE GLASS DOORS!!! THE OFFICER TOOK HIS RIGHT HAND,GOT MR SNYDER BY THE BACK OF THE NECK AND PUSHED HIM FORCEFULLY OUT THE DOOR!!! JUST BECAUSE HE'S A POLICE OFFICER, DOESN'T MEAN HE'S RIGHT, HE'S FAIR, OR HE'S JUST!!! I don't care what Mr. Snyder said. He didn't deserve this degree of brutality!! He was walking out the door after being kicked out of the meeting. The officer was CAUGHT ON VIDEO beating the crap outta him! There was no resistance. The video tells all. BOOOOOOO to Roseland Police!!!!

Posted by: Nick Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:42 PM
I was assaulted by a Roseland police officer for no reason out by Notre Dame. I hope the roseland police gets shut down they are a menace to the north east side. I actually believe the whole town of roseland should be integrated into south bend as they obviously cant even take care of themselves.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:42 PM
I live in South Bend, and I certainly NEVER want to enter Roseland. I'm a 26 year old African American Female.... what do you think would happen to me. The cop went TOTALLY too far, and he went beyond defense. He beat David Snyder. Personally, I'm sick of of hearing about Roseland blah blah blah... but wrong is wrong. Maybe the cop was taking out his frustrations of not being paid on Mr. Snyder????? Something to think about. The cop should be charged with a felony, and removed from law enforcement FOREVER. You can also see his fellow officer attempting to get him to stop... to no avial

Posted by: Thomas Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:42 PM
Savages!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Location: Elkhart, IN on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:37 PM
I just have one question about this new fiasco in the Roseland/Snyder mess: HOW DO THE SNYDERS COME UP WITH MONEY TO BOND OUT OF JAIL TIME AND TIME AGAIN? THE MAN STILL OWES THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN CHILD SUPPORT!!!! HE ALWAYS HAD MONEY TO GET HIMSELF OUT OF JAIL, BUT NOT TO PROVIDE FOR HIS CHILDREN. GO FIGURE ...

Posted by: Trent Location: Memphis, TN on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:35 PM
The officer who beat the councilman should be put in jail and the two officers watching should be fined and suspended. More importantly, how can a councilman be ejected by another councilman? I believe (I could be wrong) that this constitutes a breach of government. Will the Indiana State Police be doing the investigation or is this Federal?

Posted by: Andrea Location: B on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:27 PM
This is insane, The POLICE were WRONG, WRONG, WRONG AND THEY SHOULD BE FACING CHARGES. I am revolted by the members of the council, childish, disgusting, vile to say the least. They need to go, and take their horrible sense of fair play with them. The law enforcement totally out of control, totally wrong, and should at the minimum face suspension, preferably be fired. I would love to donate to any legal fees for MR. SNYDER, I hope he sues everyone involved. By the way, the assault against Mr. Snyder is reflected in the glass. Shame on the councile members, this is a black eyes against the town.

Posted by: Mickey Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:23 PM
I don't understand how 3 people can totally bankrupt a town, terrorize people and face no consequences. David, Dorothy and Cheryl have financially ruined this town and yet are allowed to continue. If Cheryl were working in the private sector she would have been fired a long time ago. Why is she allowed to dictate when she will or will not come to work. David and Dorothy have destroyed this town and many peoples lives. Why is David allowed to get away with this, not paying child support, putting off his trial for assult on Ted Penn, and on and on. The world will be a better place when those 3 people are out of office and hopefully living in Texas, (I can only pray).

Posted by: Jesse Location: NY on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:17 PM
Ted Penn is obviously a liar. He claimed that Snyder was being escorted out in handcuffs and that he turned around to go for the throat of Tiller, and that that's when Tiller reacted. The video clearly shows that none of that is true.

Posted by: Mikel Location: WA on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:14 PM
In the reflection you can clearly see the cop grab his neck and slam his head into the glass door. His hands were full and you can see his tripod and his papers go flying. Tedd Penn isn't going to be able to reconcile his story with the stuff visibly flying from snyders hands after his head hits the door. This cop's going to have to deal with the state police on this one. It doesn't matter what history they've got. That's a councilman and the cop is assaulting him. Afterwards there will no doubt be false reports and civil rights abuse charges. Maybe Penn will get in on the false reports charges or on conspiracy. Yep. Prison for Tiller. Big bucks for Snyder. Nothing good for the town budget. This town needs its own reality TV series.

Posted by: David Location: Arizona on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:07 PM
This really doesn't look good for the police officers or Roseland. I am completely unfamiliar with Roseland or Mr. Snyder. Maybe Mr. Snyder is a very unpleasant person; for all I know, he may eat live kittens for breakfast. I still expect better from law enforcement professionals.

Posted by: John Location: Wisconsin on Sep 15, 2007 at 05:01 PM
Those who are saying the video is inconclusive as to who started the assault are kidding themselves. I implore you to watch the moment Snyder walks out of the door again a few times. It was very clear by his body language alone that he was fully prepared to leave. He then turned to make a comment which was with a blatant excessive use of force by the officer. The shove alone could qualify as physical assault. What happened off camera can be deduced by the reflection of the door in the hallway, and the audio on the tape. Based on this, it is HIGHLY probable that after Snyder was shoved rather roughly by the officer Snyder caught his footing and tried to resist a further assault and then was immediately body slammed into the door off camera. There is simply not enough time , judging by the audio, for Snyder to have made any kind action that would have warranted the officer to have slammed him into the door like that. Case and point people.

Posted by: SHARI Location: MENTONE on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:48 PM
I think they should fire all the council and start over. They all act like kids.They should all be ashamed of what has happened.

Posted by: curt maynard Location: texas on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:43 PM
The cop is lying Snyder did NOT hit him. The cop ought to be charged with a felony and fired. People like him should NOT be allowed to be in a position of authority over anyone or anything.

Posted by: George Location: Clay Township on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:42 PM
He was not cuffed yet. Snider was handcuffed after the alleged "beating". rewatch the video. My opinion Snider got what he deserved.

Posted by: David Location: Colorado on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:41 PM
The video is sickening. The officer should be charged with assault and making false statements, then fired, then jailed.

Posted by: Sally Location: Campbellsville, Kentucky on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:38 PM
It is horrible if the cop gets away with this, and to lie about what happened. This is a frequent tactic of the police, however. I know, I have worked with them as a nurse and heard them talking amoung themselves about throwing someone down a flight of stairs and then saying he had a siezure, just like they are saying Snyder "fell". If the following is actually in the constitution,we should get it removed - Any officer shall at any time he sees fit, regardless of personal, factual, or criminal considerations, physically detain and assault any citizen of this United States and are above any kind of public persecution or criticism for his acts. They should be talking about charging the officer. WHATEVER Snyder did, that gave him no right to hit him in the head when he was down. It sickens me. I am glad this was filmed. If Tiller had problems in his childhood, it makes no difference, he should lose his job, ESPECIALLY if he had anger management in the past. You could be next people.

Posted by: Jim Location: Glendale, AZ on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:35 PM
Living over 1000 miles away, I don't know the history the people involved. From watching the extended video, you appear to have a fiefdom (SP?), which is evolving into a lawless police state. I found it interesting that the police appeared to be moving into position to remove Snyder even before the lead councilman, or whatever his role, began calling for his removal. Strongly suggests that bouncing him was discussed with the police before the meeting. No matter what Snyder said, it's clear on the video that the cop initiated the physical side of the situation with the shove in the back. If the video of him pummeling Snyders head doesn't lead to his immediate dismissal and arrest, then it's probably time for the state or the feds to take on the situation.

Posted by: Withheld For Fear of Beating Location: Not even saying on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:34 PM
Nice job, Roseland. Snyder should get out of town as fast as possible. He can't save the town when it's being run by the incompetent and gorillas with a vindictive streak. He should see if he can actually do some good in a town that will listen to him instead of a town thats being run into the ground by it's own officials. The rest of the world will be able to appreciate what you are trying to do Snyder, don't waste it on these bottom feeders who obviously don't need reasonable advice to ruin the craphole they live in. Good luck in life, you are admired Snyder.

Posted by: Seriously?? Location: NE on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:30 PM
I pity Roseland. I pity them for their elected officials. I pity them for the quality of their police officers. I especially pity them for their education standards. Can we get a post from a local that isn't rife with spelling and grammatical errors?

Posted by: Robert Location: Denham on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:28 PM
Enough already. I live 60 miles south of Roseland, and I'm embarassed for the actions of these so called professional people. It's time to put petty differences aside and do what is best for the community of Roseland.

Posted by: lisa Location: south bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:27 PM
there is no explanation for what this cop did..i think he needs to spend a little time behind bars...isn't that called assault..i think so... and why did david even go to jail. they need to get these laws in order..this judicial system is crappy

Posted by: Steve Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:25 PM
I backing Officer Jack Tiller all the way!

Posted by: Mollie Location: on my way to Canada on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:22 PM
That was the saddest sickest display I have seen in a while. You cannot sit on the back of a handcuffed man and punch him in the head. The officer should be charged for assault and fired. Additionally, where was the democracy in kicking the councilman out to begin with? Democracy is not based on the absolute power of one man. It is disagreement and debate that leads us to the compromise. What has happened to civility? I cannot wait for my Canadian residency to go through. I will take my MS in Biology and make a better world for better people. The United States of America is a shadow and a memory of what it was in my childhood. There is no liberty or democracy here.

Posted by: Kayla Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:00 PM
I don't care what any of you say he is a horrible man and he is trying to ruin roseland so he got wat he deserves and everyone whose not from around here mind your own buisness because you don'y know what this man is like and hes lucky this is the first time it happened!

Posted by: CAROL Location: SOUTH BEND ( THANK GOD ! ) on Sep 15, 2007 at 04:00 PM
I THINK ROSELAND HAS DISGRACED SOUTH BEND AND NOTRE DAME LONG ENOUGH. THE POLICE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM THERE AND THE COUNCIL IS THE BIGGEST JOKE OF ALL! WE NEED TO PROTEST ON U.S.933N. WE NEED TO START PETITIONS TO EFFECTIVELY DISOLVE ROSELAND AS A TOWN AND INCORPORATE THEM INTO SOUTH BENDS JURISDICTION. PEOPLE ACCROSS THE UNITED STATES TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE NEGATIVE HAPPENINGS. I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN CANADA THAT HAVE BROUGHT UP THE SNYDERS AND ROSELAND AND I'M ALWAYS SURE TO MENTION THAT WE ARE NOT A PART OF THEIR TOWN. AS FOR THE COP HE NEEDS STRIPPED OF HIS RIGHT TO "SERVE" US. HE'S TOO ABUSIVE!

Posted by: Rich Location: NIles on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:59 PM
The officer was out of line and unfortunately for the tormented town of Roseland, Snyder will sue and he will win. He was on the ground and continued to be struck in the face. I am a police officer, you cannot strike someone in the head when they are already down, you can only strike limbs that are resisting restraint. The officer will be punished for his actioned and he will likely be litigated as well. Its interesting that as soon as the officer thought he had Snyder out of view of the camera, he shoved him into the glass door.

Posted by: Sickening Location: Indiana on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:59 PM
Most of the comments below are just sickening, it's very obvious that if your not at an incident that happens you probably have no idea what took place. The video shows only a small portion of what was probably taking place, and most of the time that is what the media wants people to see, what catches a viewers eye. I don't know how so many people can comment and make judgement when I'm sure that you weren't there to see, "reflections in the glass"!! Since when did you become judge and jury for all involved? Maybe you should leave that up to the judicial system Of all involved if there has been wrong doing on the police officers part it will be handled accordingly. If Mr. Snyder is wrong hopefully that will be handled accordingly. Although St.Joseph County Prosecutor Office, is declining to prosecute in many cases these days. But too many people are blowing this way out of proportion - this video isn't as damning as most want it to be.

Posted by: TV Time Location: Hollywood on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:52 PM
I smell a new HIT TV show coming soon. "Roseland 911" Probably will be on Comedy Central!

Posted by: Lorrie Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:49 PM
Don't know Snyder, don't care for him HOWEVER I won't condone ANYONE getting beat and this cop CLEARLY and INTENTIONALLY beat this man. Snyder did not attempt to jab this cop, hit him, or any other act of violence. Mouthy maybe but physical absolutely not so this cop needs to go on immediate suspension. Getting a bit ridiculous when cops get off free for beating people all the time. Again let me reiterate, I do not know Snyder but from the drama of Roseland I do not care for him. Just another concerned citizen in a nearby location. If it can happen to him, it can happen to anyone and actually does, all the time and it needs to STOP!

Posted by: jkct Location: texas on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:49 PM
all you people that are saying police brutality didnt look at the video,and they had i witness who saw the whole thing,so take a closer look and he got what he deserved,when you are being arrested you dont fight or resist the cops, thats what got him eating gravel,hes been a bully for a long time. Ive folled this for a long time he also got arrested for beating up the other town council member.

Posted by: heather Location: south bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:42 PM
i truly am sick of seeing snyder in the news but you can clearly see that officer punch him in the head several times which was clearly uncalled for. there wasnt enough time between passing through that door that would have called for the hits he was getting from that officer

Posted by: Tim Location: Wi on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:22 PM
To "T" in Roseland. It's everyone else's fault if Tiller went to anger management and failed? And yes, it would be a tragedy to his family but it's your own duty to live your life and values to not have that happen. Nobody elses. And if he overcame some sort of struggle, it's equally sad because he didn't succeed and pretending he didn't do it cheapens those who did overcome problems and not abuse their positions. Personal responsibility. You don't get many do-overs. You have to do it right the first time.

Posted by: T Location: WI on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:11 PM
Just because you don't like Snyder doesn't mean you shouldn't demand he not be beaten for being mouthy. After all, there are people who don't like you and may have some police relatives willing to do the same.

Posted by: Truth on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:09 PM
You can see Snyder never elbowed the cop. The cop just soved him right into and out the door, then jumped on his back and repeatedly punched him in the side of the head, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS ALREADY DOWN! I hope he successfully sues the cop, and the town for everything they have and more! Cops have to learn not to abuse their position!!!

Posted by: phillip anderson Location: springfield, il on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:04 PM
Shame on this officer and anyone who defends him. Mr. Snyder was not posing a serious threat to that cranked up thug. The officer should be reprimanded and Snyder should sue for damages. It is disgraceful to the soldiers fighting for our freedom to have U.S. citizens treated this way with no repercussions. This incident is just plain wrong.

Posted by: Tim Location: Wisconsin on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:01 PM
What is this talk about "unseen" or things that happened in the hallway. Here's what I saw: Snyder walks to doorway with tripod in one hand and paperwork in other. Gallery member calls Snyder "Hitler." Tiller goes to close the door (since he appears to be reaching for the bar), Snyder notices him and says "Oh, the bully's back! Hello bully!" and turns to walk away. Tiller, clearly incensed pushes Snyder down the hallway and through the glass door. In the glass reflection you can see the camera/tripod smash into the door as well and Snyder's body. And Snyder appeared to be already falling as the reflection shows him smashing into the low part of the door. You can also see Tiller's body going down and through the door in the reflection as well. The papers and camera are right at the doorway under Snyder so I see no way they both made it outside standing up and having an altercation that way. Snyder then got punched in the head for not giving up his hands quickly or for revenge

Posted by: sean Location: california on Sep 15, 2007 at 03:00 PM
Wow. This is unbelievable. Police brutality, slander, assault and battery on a confined prisoner, and then bald-face revision. Nice town.

Posted by: Gary Location: Elkahart on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:59 PM
I can't stop laughing

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:51 PM
Will some one please step in and save our town, there is no laws to allow the recalling of all involved. Snyders are very egotistical Penn is a lying mafioso with ties to David Koresh (the waco texas thing) and shields is slowly losing his mind. The offices are elected for 4 years and there is no way to remove/stop this. PLEASE SEND HELP!!!!

Posted by: CC Location: S.B on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:49 PM
He got what was comming to him.He thinks he is above the law and deserves what he got

Posted by: Someone Who Knows Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:47 PM
If you knew anything about what David Snyder has done to Roseland you would know that he not the type of man you would want running the town of Roseland. Jack Tiller, the arresting officer, happens to be a real family guy who cares alot of his community. Jack was only protecting his community. If Jack has not been paid for the past month then he should not be sued for he was a volenteer officer. As far as half of South Bend is concerned Snyder deserves everything he got. He has asked for it himself by putting Roseland financially in the whole. Snyder has lied, stole, and cheated Roseland for years because of his hungry ways. We need to get him out of Roseland altogether.

Posted by: steve Location: north carolina on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:31 PM
Clearly this cop was out of line in his use of force. This cop should turn in his badge.

Posted by: t Location: roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:30 PM
every body has found officer tiller guilty with no account for the truth tiller is the only one to step forward and restore law to roseland when the past marshalls could not tiller has surpassed his childhood full of mistakes and very poor choices he has made a career at roseland when in the past he could not hold a job for very long. if tiller has ben to anger management before we must blame the councelors who tried to help him and failed. if tiller loses his job at roseland it will be devistating to his family and lose what he has worked to gain.i propose that if tiller loses his job the people of roseland should hire him as a town security consultant to maintain a level of understanding that we have come to know.and with the so called police brutality i believe tiller has the duty and responsibility tomaintain order no matter what it takes jack was no aggessive than snyder was uncooperrative.with that said we thank you for your quick response to the situation to keep the others safe

Posted by: Eric Location: Goshen, Indiana on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:18 PM
Everyone who agrees that what this cop did is wrong needs to write there state represenitive. Our TAX MONEY is funding these corrupt gov't officials and towns. Also how do ignorant and abusive people that do not know how to listen get into public office and govt postitions????? Do the USA a favor and write and DEMAND THAT ACTION BE TAKEN. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:12 PM
The officer is saying David hit him. I didnt see this in the video. When they walk out into the hall all you can see is the officer pushing David. Then you see David down on the ground being punched. HOw is this right?

Posted by: Michelle Location: Starke County on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:11 PM
Omg All the comments everyone has the right to post there voice.I think the officer was out of bounds but i can not make a judgement on any of it because it is so hard to see what did happen in this video! I just am glad i do not live in Roselawn Or any where new it they have alot of issues and i hope they can someday figure out how to fix them and act like a town instead of a bunch of kids.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:10 PM
I am not a David Snyder fan but what this cop did was uncalled for. By watching the video this cop was beating David up when he was helpless. It didn't look like he was resisting arrest at all. The cop took advantage of his power and they are talking about charging David. I think they should be talking about charging the officer. Maybe David was mouthing off to the officer but that gave him no right to use physical force like that. It sickens me. I really hope the officer doesn't get off easy for his actions. And I am really glad this was filmed.

Posted by: Charlie Location: Granger on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:08 PM
If this is resolved too soon the Tribune will lose hundreds of subscriptions. Its better than any reality show on TV.

Posted by: We all should CARE Location: United States on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:05 PM
All this, "Who Cares, He Deserved it" is making me feel ill. Just because one, a few, or many Americans think another American or Americans deserves some sort of wrath for what they did or who they are, the concensus decides it to be, regardless of individal Rights, Liberty, and Fair Trial under the Laws of these United States.

Posted by: Paul Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:04 PM
The town of Roseland must be full of "Super Hicks" and should be incorporated into South Bend. It's an embarrassment to Notre Dame and all of Michiana.

Posted by: Chris Location: Rochester on Sep 15, 2007 at 02:02 PM
I think the whole town council should be fired. Then have more mature and respectful persons hired to fill those spots. This issue between the two councilmen is really stupid. My two youngest kids 7 and 9 act more mature than them two

Posted by: Scott Gervais Location: Berrien Springs on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:57 PM
I don't know anything about the Roseland council (or care) but the story being told that he hit the cop and resisted is obviously a lie. Look close at the video, he turns and says "Oh look, the bully is back" to the cop, the cop gets angry and plows him. Now, look at the window that they pass. The reflection shows prettly clearly that in less than about a second, Snyder is falling and being plowed through the door. The cop was completely out of line. Period. This Snyder guy may or may not be a jerk, but he was brutalized in this case, without question.

Posted by: michaele Location: new carlisle on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:56 PM
I think this is horrible if the cop gets away with this. and for Penn to lie about what happened. I seen no handcuffs on this guy. All he did was turn around and make a comment and was attacked by the cop .Is this what our country is coming to.

Posted by: Ramona Location: Atlanta on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:46 PM
No one becomes a small town cop unless they also enjoy being a bully. Simple, and true everywhere. In his interview, this guy radiates the cocky arrogance of someone who thinks no one will ever dare punish him.

Posted by: Jason Location: San Jose on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:42 PM
@Amy This issue isn't the character of David Snyder, the issue is unprovoked police brutality and blatant covering up by the council. David may be a complete smuck, but that does not warrant him being slammed to the ground and beaten by those in uniform.

Posted by: Kevin Location: Savannah on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:42 PM
This is a message to all of the people in South Bend who keep lying that Snyder was not attacked or keep bringing up how much he is hated etc. The world is watching you and you look like a bunch of idiots. You claim that Snyder is a bad person but from what I can tell you all are no better. The more you defend this attack for whatever reason real or imagined the WORSE you all look. So just shut up.

Posted by: Joe Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:40 PM
I think the officer was acting under the exception clause that is in our Constitution. Any officer shall at any time he sees fit, regardless of personal, factual, or criminal considerations, physically detain and assault any citizen of this United States and are above any kind of public persecution or criticism for his acts. The officer in the video is only acting under the perception that we give them of themselves. They are above you and I, should you or I question that in the presence of authority, we too shall suffer the wrath of their God granted priviledges of power.

Posted by: Chris Location: Pennsylvania on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:26 PM
What this bad cop did was bad enough and should earn him serious jail time. But the really scary part was how he lied about it afterward.

Posted by: Dave Location: Lakewood Ohio on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:25 PM
what a bunch of rednecks and hillbillies that whole crowd was. Unless the poor guy who was victimized by the police will probably be able to win a lot of money from the government in a lawsuit.

Posted by: JR Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:25 PM
When I saw the raw footage there was a reflection on the glass doors which looked like the officer had pushed Snyder forward and into the doors. Ted Penn's testimony says Snyder attacked Tiller so Tiller took him down. Seeing what we can on the video offered here, there's no telling how it was started, however the video of Tiller seemingly punching Snyder while Snyder is face-down and not resisting definitely seems overdone and abusive at that point. Tiller seems to have hit Snyder much more than might have been necessary given that Snyder was face down and not moving much. A bit scary that it seemed so calmly delivered given Snyder's demeanor at the time. I don't know Snyder's history, but it appears some bias might have been at play, at least in the video that shows what looks like overly physical controlling of him. That's my two cents after watching all the video.

Posted by: Greg Location: Minnesota on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:17 PM
OK - sounds like there's a lot of hostility in this council and it appears that this Snyder guy is not too popular. Still though, the fact is that the officer clearly shoved Snyder the moment he was out of the room and there could be no time for Snyder to have thrown an elbow as Ted Penn claims. Bottom line is that this clearly appears to be a cop who tried to throw some muscle around and thing escalated. Cops are held to a higher standard and tiller failed. He should lose his job at a minimum. Also and as an aside, I think Snyder is right about the time limit issue. The chair cannot dictate limits. You guys have kings in Roseland?

Posted by: AL Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:16 PM
Looks like the cop went too far, that being said, South Bend needs to abolish the entire Roseland government and take over that entire area. Do away with all these clowns and let South Bend run it. Roseland needs to be in the history books.

Posted by: Chris Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:12 PM
You can't see in the video if Snyder hit the police officer. But I don't think the officer was using excessive force because Snyder wouldn't put his hands behind his back to be cuffed. Snyder never plays by the rules - even when it comes to law enforcement. Thank God I don't live in Roseland!

Posted by: Tom L. Location: Notre Dame on Sep 15, 2007 at 01:01 PM
I'm sure when the lawsuit is over the cops and the mayor will only have their jockey shorts left and the city will be floating a bond iossue to pay Mr. Snyder.

Posted by: Officer Convicted Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:56 PM
If you watch the video, David is leaving on his own without any sort of resistance what so ever, with the officer following behind. As he exits the room, David turns his head to respond to some comments, but never stops his exit of the buildng. The officer then tries to grab David's wrist for no apparent reason. It sounds as if David might have told the officer not to touch him, or something of that sort. NOW, if you watch the REFLECTION in the windows on the wall in the hallway.... You can perfectly see that David is completely turned away from the officer, the officer shoves David all the way through the hall and front doors of the building, David's head hits the front doors opening them with his forehead, which means he was still facing away from the officer, and when the video resumes on the two, it is clear that the officer is riding David on the ground, who's face and body are still facing away from the officer, yet the officer strikes many blows to David's head with his fist.

Posted by: Travis Location: Osceola on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Tiller certainly had the right to physically remove Snyder from the meeting. That cannot be disputed. If Snyder physically resisted that in any way, and it appears her did when he turned back towards Tiller, Tiller has the right to answer back with more force. Tiller also then has the right to arrest for Trespass (refusing departure) under Indiana Criminal Code. Once Snyder resists arrest, under the force continuum, Tiller may use the force necessary to make the arrest. Tiller obviously was unsuccessful making the arrest using 'soft empty hand' techniques so he is fully justified using 'hard empty hand' techniques, including strikes, to take Snyder into custody. Anyone out there doubting this, Google 'use of force continuum' and do a little reading on the subject. Basic use of force continuums read like this... Officer Presence Verbal Direction Soft Empty Hand Chemical Agents (not appropriate due to civilian contamination) Hard Empty Hand Intermediate Weapons Lethal Force

Posted by: David C Location: Tallahassee on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:54 PM
The reflection in the glass tells the story. Officer Tiller is a coward and a liar! There was no "fight in the hallway". This is a clear case of police brutality. Ted Penn is another despicable liar! At no time did Snyder turn and elbow that cop! He never had the time.

Posted by: Patricia Location: Argos on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:53 PM
I truly believe that David Snyder is not a good man but anyone condoning this dispicable display of brutality is no better. The video clearly shows Tiller attacking Snyder. As for Mr Penn, someone must not have told him that the event was taped thereby making him to be a complete liar about what happened. This event and all leading up to it are both a sad and pathetic display of human behavior. No wonder people lose faith in our government! They should be ashamed of themselves and their inept leadership. My 5 year old daughter acts more mature than these people.

Posted by: steve Location: goshen on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:51 PM
follow-up, the indy deputy that said when a camera is present play it cool. wow whats that say

Posted by: Jerome Location: Osceola on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:50 PM
I am suprised it took this long for David Snyder to get the crap kicked out of him. He is just lucky it was in front of witnesses and not behind the meeting hall in the dark. Didn't Snyder kick the crap out of Penn in a meeting?? Does everyone forget that !!! Snyder is a dirtbag, but the cop should have restrained himself and put personal feelings aside. When Snyder gets his $$$ for this incident, I wonder how much he will voluntarily send to his kids that he owes child support on. Mr. Snyder, it could have been worse. Be thankful it was on camera !!!!

Posted by: Amy Location: South Bend, IN on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:45 PM
If you're not aware of the whole situation, you shouldn't be able to comment. David Snyder was elected to council because the rest of the council is run by relatives. A glimpse into the real nature of "poor, wronged David Snyder" would be at http://glennsacks.com/blog/?page_id=241. How do you like them apples, Johnny?

Posted by: Maui Location: California on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:39 PM
I believe that the power that the officers showed was abusive. Sure they were doing their job in escorting Snyder out since he got the boot from the other man. It doesn't mean he gets beat up just because people don't like the man. Sure he did a lot of evil as they say he has. It would be more humane if they got back at him not with violence but with justice. Overall this was just the cops gone over board.

Posted by: Baldy on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:38 PM
If the cops were to leave justice in the hands of the citizens, the bad guys would all be dead. Anyone who thinks that cops are superheroes should check their meds.

Posted by: Andy Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Another example of our fine corrupt police department. Great way to make a bad situation worse. It was almost as bad as the Elkhart police.

Posted by: C. Location: S. In Texas. on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Some cops earn the bullet they eventually get. This kind of brutality and corruption will eventually put this cop in a very bad situation that he doesn't walk away from. This video pretty much shows anyone that watches it that THIS is a cop you need to shoot if he stops you. He is dangerous, corrupt, and willing to falsify his testimony. Too bad it only takes a few of these guys to completely destroy the trust a community has in its officers.

Posted by: Jasen Location: Louisville on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:30 PM
It looked rather plainly like Tiller retaliated with physical force to something that Snyder said to him. I have no doubt that Snyder said something smartassed, but does that cop have so little self control that his first instinct is to knock the man to the ground and beat on him? And this is acceptable behavior for law enforcement?

Posted by: ARE YOU SERIOUS? Location: Goshen,IN on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:29 PM
Can we say RODNEY KING? That cop needs to rot in Jail (or at least somewhere that rhymes with jail). I liked the video, where he says, "YES, He hit me!" "I gotta go to the hospital". Put the gun and badge down and then nose up to David Snyder. I bet your the one on the ground buddy! I dont know much about Roseland, but it sounds like a serious circus. Something needs to be done about Officer jack(...) tiller.

Posted by: steve Location: goshen on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:28 PM
there is three sides of this story. the snyders, the city councils, and the truth. they should tear the town down and start over. the policeman did cross the line and iam sure he will pay for it,but lets not lose sight that this town is in trouble and our state government should step in now

Posted by: Steve Location: Minneapolis on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Snyder's hands were full. You can clearly see Snyder turning to leave after making a comment. At that point, the police officer pushed him to start the melee. Police officers have a very high standard to live up to, and clearly Tiller started the issue by striking Snyder, and had to follow up with a false story (what else could he do?)explaining something that the camera disproves. Snyder has a clear cut case of police brutality, and the city will be paying (or its insurance) a high cost for a cop not being able to hold his temper. Obviously, looking at the posts, that there is some bad feelings that happened earlier, that people are trying to drag in to justify the attack, but that is a canard to deflect what really occurred (he was a bad person, and deserved it, and that's what happened). An understandable emotion, but not one to be tolerated in a police force, or a courtroom.

Posted by: Mark Location: Near Roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:22 PM
The officer will be fired but should get a raise. Perhaps Snyder should be hit it once for every week of back child support.

Posted by: Terry Location: Leesburg on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:21 PM
I'm sorry to see this situation happen because the video just doesn't look to good for Tiller or the board members.But you can only push anybody's temper so far.There should have been something done a long time ago about getting the Snyders out of the picture.The town is so broke but it seems the Snyders always have all kind of money.Did you see the car they drive? The amount of money Snyder paid up front to get out of jail for back child support?Is anybody investigating them for embezzelment?If so, they are covering up their ways really good.I think we all knew that something was going to blow someday.Leave the police and the council alone and get the Snyders out of there.

Posted by: Duane Location: San Antonio, TX on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Clearly, things have gone on prior to this event that has created ill will towards Mr. Snyder. Whatever that may or may not be, he was right in his assertions to the council- check Robert's Rules of Parlimentary Procedure- and council was way beyond wrong in having him removed. Furthermore, whatever may or may not have occured in the hallway, Mr. Snyder was clearly not resisting when he was on the ground. The last several blows by the "officer", (and I use that term loosely, as he is obviously a poor representation of the other hard working men and women of law enforcement), were uncalled for, and should have him in front of a disiplinary commitee for termination- if not defending himself on a civil suit. I am looking to relocate our offices and home to your area. Roseland just came off our list.

Posted by: Terri Location: LaPorte on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:10 PM
I have to say I am not a fan of the Synders but that was clearly police brutality. He had the man on the ground and still kept hitting him. And from the mirror you can see that The police officer shoved Mr. Synder through the door. I am just grateful I do NOT live in Roseland or maybe it should be called Jokeland. The town should be ashamed of the way thier counsel members behave, it is like children. Mr Synder does like to provoke people, but he is a police officer and should have control over his emotions and he clearly does not. I know several police officers and they are wonderful people so I am not saying that all police are like that cop. There is always one person that gives the good ones a bad name. And those other officers that stood by shouls have spepped in and controled the situation that is there job. I do feel for the residents of Roseland and I agree the state or county should take over.And there should be a federal investigation as to what has happened.

Posted by: Carl Taylor Location: Florida on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:10 PM
This is one SORRY town! Anyone who lives there should be ashamed to be represented this way. How about the "Charley Shields" guy that summarily cut Snyder off in the meeting? He said he never gave him the floor, but in the video, he clearly did. Snyder did sound a bit antagonistic, but the other participants were no better. I am pro law enforcement and would almost always take an officer's word, but I do not believe the police officer's comments that Snyder tried to hit him. This is a dirty town. The feds need to get involved. I personally hope they sue this town into receivership and appoint some state oversight to clean it up. What a lousy place. They should take "Rose" out of the city name.

Posted by: Jim Location: Nebraska on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:10 PM
Another example of a under-secure person getting a badge, and thinking they have the right to show "how much power they have". I hope he feels better about himself, as the whole nation is watching why he shouldn't have a badge. Perhaps instead of showing up for donuts, he should go to counseling, instead.

Posted by: Lilly Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:04 PM
David Snyder is known for doing bad things when off camera so there is no documentation, like locking the doors when beating Ted Penn. I have no doubt he assaulted the police officer as soon as they were out of range of the meeting & cameras. The budget was passed when Snyder, his wife and Cheryl Gridley all were gone. That says it all. January 1 cannot come soon enough. Snyder and his wife have hurt so many people physically, financially and emotionally. The Roseland residents should be commended for keeping their emotional control most of the past 3 years. Most people understand that has been unbelieveably hard to do, especially after Ted was assaulted. I am sure that policeman was not going to be hurt the way Ted was by Snyder (who don't forget is over 6 ft tall and not a small man). The residents of Roseland are good people, who have been put thru a lot by this man. To all of you in Roseland,don't forget the Snyders will soon be gone. Hold your heads up high.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Cincinnati, OH on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Obviously the police officer went way too far, and should be arrested, lose his badge, and be publicly humiliated for such an obvious abuse of power. I'm glad this is bringing so much attention. No matter how much Mr. Snyder is disliked, physical violence is not the answer. These town member, and those police officers are a joke. Thank god I don't live there.

Posted by: Jason Location: San Jose on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:56 AM
Ted Penn is a bald face liar. Looks to me like the whole town is conspiring against David Snyder. This whole thing is unbelievable. Reminds me of Mississippi Burning where a the city council members and cops were all looking out for each other. This is just plain wrong.

Posted by: Bob Location: Michigan City on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Police brutality my butt This guy has needed his butt whipped a long time ago. Good Job Tiller

Posted by: 3MTA3 Location: north central on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:47 AM
To all of you that are slamming on the Police. If the Police all left their jobs today you can't even imagine what would happen to all of us. There will always be a bad apple in any group. Please do not judge all of them for the bad example of a few. The good cops never receive this kind of publicity that they deserve.

Posted by: BB Location: California on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:47 AM
he clearly tripped and the officer was helping him up.

Posted by: Bob Location: California on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44 AM
This story is getting coverage all over the country. This town...what a trainwreck. And I thought "reality" shows were over the top. This town needs a serious overhaul. Maybe they can borrow the national guard for a few months and clean it all up. I don't think much of either side of this whole thing, but I would say the cop should have kept his ego in check and just subdued the guy and left it at that. What a soap opera.

Posted by: Jason Location: San Jose on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:43 AM
Snyder should sue those officers who tackled him. Obviously, the officers had a grudge and were looking for any excuse to slam him. They need to be arrested and kicked off the police force. What a bunch of bullies! Jason

Posted by: Steve Location: Ohio on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:43 AM
This happens alot in small town governments. Ours is no different. Thank god the cameras were there. The council president should be let go and Tiller and the city should be sued.

Posted by: This is ridiculous Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:41 AM
I cannot believe the people on this message board. You people don't know this police officer so how dare you call him a "fat, lazy slob." A person's appearance has no bearing on what kind of a job they do. Don't judge a book by his cover. Let the investigation into what happened be the determining factor in what happens to this officer. Personally, I thing David and Dorothy Snyder are the devil's spawn and they will answer to their maker some day. I pity their souls. NOT ALL COPS ARE DIRTY. 99% of the police in the Michiana area are decent cops just doing their job. Which is more than I can say for the Roseland town council. Ted Penn's reenactment made him look like an idiot and nothing gets accomplished during these meetings. The Roseland town residents need to stand up and take their town back. Contact higher governement and force someone with some maturity and intelligence to take this problem and fix it.

Posted by: Adolf on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:40 AM
Roseland is corrupt from top to bottom , what an embarassment to ND and surround-ing towns, Roseland cops are inept and should be work at Walmart's security ,they would make more money ,but anyway free Roseland

Posted by: jerry Location: trenton, nj on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Council members are elected. If this guy Snyder is such a 'problem' how did he get elected to council ? People must be sending a message by electing him. Many town councils are real crooked and serve themselves and their cronies over many years and use strong arm tactics. Who hired that cop Ted Penn? Running your mouth is not illegal and certainly not deserving assault. Oh, paying this guy $6/hr is an excuse ? There is no excuse. Snyder was carrying papers in one hand and a camera in the other. Was the cop startled because he is so fat and can't move anymore. Good thing the cop didn't sit on Snyder. No one can take 4380 lbs of blubber. I can't wait to see what happens to this 'cop'. He must make other cops really angry. What a disgrace. I come across bullies like this allot, and they are all the same, he deserves to be arrested and I can't wait to see how he's treated, he's dangerous and out of control and a disgrace to law enforcement officers. Law-breakers will go to jail.

Posted by: Dave Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:32 AM
Roseland is a joke, so is the whole police dept.The Chief is a crook, the town is being held hostage to these camera pandering morons who think they are on "reality tv". The state should take over this joke of a town or the county and restore order. What an embarassment to Notre Dame.

Posted by: Mark Location: Atlanta, GA on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:32 AM
That cop looks like George "The Animal" Steel. There was no reason for him to be punching that boob in the head or in the back of the arm, which is where the second punch on video appears to land. This video does illustrate very well that people will lie about what happened. Right when he got hit, people started spouting lies.

Posted by: Brad Location: Goshen on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:28 AM
I like how Ted Penn Lies to cover for an out of control cop,,he says he seen snyder go for the officers face ,pretty good for when your hands are behind your back,,, if that cop gets off,,just wait tell it happens to you,,,just the start Marshall law is coming ,,just set back n watch,,lazy uniformed Americans

Posted by: Eric Location: Iowa on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:25 AM
Remeber to trust your government at all times.

Posted by: Jessica Location: Osceola on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Yes, from the video, it APPEARS Tiller jumped the gun. The majority of you who are using this to bash the 99.9% of good cops are just as wrong. But you same people will not hesitate to dail 911 in your time off need! Back off!! Don't take it out on every cop in America. Just continue to be safe behind your closed doors at home and your closed office doors at work and know that the majority of good cops most of you are bashing will be there for YOU!. How many of you will go to work Monday knowing most of the people you will deal with will hate you? How many will get yelled or cursed at? Do any of you have to wonder if you may die today while working? Bash Tiller all you want, it looks like it is justified here. Leave the rest of "Good Guys" out of it..

Posted by: Gregg Location: Granger on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Absolutely amazing. David Snyder is clearly the victim of an insane situation and the majority of you still go on about child support.Before you judge any further you need to know of what you are speaking. The media only presents one side. David is not a dead beat dad. Can you say "involuntary servitude"? At what point does fleecing a human being to give to another become unconscionable and unconstitutional? When is it no longer child support but merely spoils to the victor? Learn before you speak as your ignorance betrays you, and thank God that you are not in his shoes. The eyes of the nation are on this latest escapade. Shall Indiana continue to be seen as the stumbling rednecks that they so fervently insist on behaving like? Will someone have the fortitude to step up to the plate on this or will it be swept under the rug? I am absolutely disgusted(though not surprised)by the behaviour of the police and the rest of the attendees. The rest of the nation needs to see this.

Posted by: John Stevens Location: England, UK on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:14 AM
I'm watching this from the UK (via FARK.com). Yes, this has gained a much wider audience than that police officer would ever have hoped for. I have no idea who the characters are in this story and even if that council member is the most contemptible person you could ever hope to meet he is *clearly* being abused by a nation's police which is rapidly gaining a reputation for corruption and violence. The victim (for that is what he is) is clearly pushed through the hallway and out onto the street where he is viciously assaulted. I wonder how the officer will react to his fifteen minutes of infamy.

Posted by: J.T. Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:09 AM
What a cheesy poll- it has no accountability. By the number of childish comments about fat, bald Tiller, senile Ted Penn and Charlie Shields plus the overwhelming numbers in favor of the Snyders, my guess is Dorothy Snyder is sitting at her computer and sending comment after comment to bolster her position that she and her husband are being picked on yet again. No one save for the cops and David Snyder could see what truely happened. Most of the grief stems from the fact that Snyder has engineered the bulk of this mess that has Roseland nearly sunk- from his sham marriage to the person running the town so that he had an ally ( "I nominate/I second that") to appoint himself to key positions that allow him to push his agenda- make a ton of money by whatever it takes/whoever gets hurt as frontman for the wealthy Patell family. He has fined, cited, condemmed, anyone in his way. His wifes' command of Roberts Rules of Order helped. immeasureably to achieve this goal. ignorant

Posted by: Clarice Location: valdosta, georgia on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:07 AM
Any one with eyes can see that the Officer was wrong and immediately after were leaving I saw the Officer push David from behind so anyone is saying they are not sure of what happen apparently cannot see very well...This is how the LAW ENFORCEMENT work and that is no secret..Our Government is full of corruption they are their very own gang..And I rather die than too call their service here in valdosta..I know how corrupt they are from personal encounters with them..I had a gang leader to spit in my face because i was protecting my family and they charged me..then gang leader threaten my son with 6 police officers around he told my son when he see him on the streets he was going to put a bullet in his head and law enforcement did nothing..I have my own personal stories of law enforcement and will pursue my case..So continue fighting my brother I am with you all the way and wish I was in your city too fight with and for you..hang in their our day will come and I am here..Never, ever stop

Posted by: Linda Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:02 AM
After what I just viewed, I want to know why the police officer is not in jail?

Posted by: Henri Location: Palade on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Does anyone realize that there's clearly a history between them? Notice the shoving just after uttering something? Was it right? I could not hear what he said but it didn't sound like he was saying something that deserved it. When you are an officer, you should be able to control yourself regardless of the words being uttered. Shoot this is ugly.

Posted by: White Trash Location: Osceola on Sep 15, 2007 at 11:01 AM
With all this beating going on what ever happened to the budget? Maybe Tedd Penn should suggest opening up a concession stand at the meeting to bring in extra revenue to pay the lawyers. I like eating popcorn while I get entertained. Pass the salt please.

Posted by: Jack on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Roseland needs to be put in a corner until they can act like adults.

Posted by: jf Location: trenton, nj on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Snyder was obeying the law. If fact he was denied his rights The cops are shown assaulting him over and over. If this isn't a battery, then what is? Senile councils like those shown run many small towns like mini Hitler's with their cop stooges.

Posted by: john Location: smith on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:56 AM
that is some crazy stuff going on in Roseland. that cop was totally in the wrong. it's not surprising to me. all cops are crooked. he lied right the the camera people while they stood there and watched the whole thing. lol. now I hope people can understand when others say they didn't do anything it could be the truth. they say if you didn't do anything wrong you wouldn't of been arrested. well, now there is camera incidents that show they cops are just loser with a badge. I am surprised to see that people believe the cop went to far. I feel there maybe some god to come from this. is anyone planning to picket the roseland police station. I am down if something happens. as a matter of fact I am going to go down there myself at noon today. 09/15/07 to ask for tiller to be fired. come join me. peace.

Posted by: bigmck068 Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:54 AM
Listen since the 1st G Bush came to power this country has gone to the trash barrel. Police are way to protected and can get away with murder, point said. I hope all you republican supports are happy to see what become of the United States of America. Im going to Canada, real soon!

Posted by: Danny Location: South Carolina on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:53 AM
Why don't you send the fat bald headed Barny Fife to us and let the rednecks have some fun with him. That's what happens when you give a lazy fat slob coward a badge and a gun!!! Take it away and all you have is a big ego, a little brain,and a scared little piece of a man that nobody likes. He works for $6.00 an hour because HIS real pay is the fear that the badge and gun instill in people around him. Put him on foot patrol in a high crime area and he would probably wet his pants and leave town. Ted is just as big a coward, he is just too old to be out pushing people around so he sits back telling lies to support the big bullies he wishes he was. They both need to go to jail. I hope Mr.Snyder gets rich over this one!!!

Posted by: Bill Location: Osceola on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:53 AM
This whole board needs to grow up. This is a disgrace to the town of Roseland. And the Police Officer went way way to far folks. He should lose his badge over this. There is no room for that kind of response, unless provoked accordingly. The Board member was describing things I didn't see on the tape.

Posted by: Brady Location: Florida on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:52 AM
that was the most ridiculous abuse of power that i have ever witnessed. shame on the police in roseland and the council

Posted by: IndyDeputy Location: Indianapolis on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:51 AM
I'd normally support a fellow officer 100%, but the video is really inconclusive. I couldn't actually see where the officer was striking. As to what lead up to the use of force, sorry Officer Tiller, I just don't see where there was resistance or aggression that warranted your actions. Where your strikes were being placed, I don't know, but I don't believe they were needed. You looked very, very wrong in this video. When in the presence of a camera, be cool and play it by the book!!! I see a very valid lawsuit coming against the town as well as the officer involved.

Posted by: john Location: montreal on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:49 AM
Roseland should be thouroughly enmbarrased by this incident. The Chair of the meeting overstepped and has little regard for democracy. The Policeman shoved Snyder from behind( as seen in the video) when he was leaving with the video camera and tripod in one hand, and a stack of papers in the other. How did he manage to hit the cop? The police fabricated "evidence" and were backed up by Ted Penn who, as far as i'm concerned, is lying through his teeth. In the takedown on the pavement the corpulent cop is on top of the victim and hitting repeatedly, long after he has control of Snyder. Snyder may well not be liked as an individual, but that doesn't give the police the right to bully him.

Posted by: Him Location: Upstairs on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:48 AM
I always wondered what happened to Butterball after he retired from the ring. Now I know. He's a cop in Indiana. I'd suggest sending him to jail, but the worst punishment would probably be home confinement with that fat sow of a wife harping on him the whole time.

Posted by: Woody Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:42 AM
Snyder apparently would have used his elbow to strike the officer as viewed in the video. The video does not show all the actions of Snyder or the officer. But, the officer has taken an oath of office which cannot be taken lightly. He protects the public and all of Snyder's actions laugh at the law. Snyder has been involved in physical fighting and unbelieveable avoiding of paying child support (which is very telling of his morality and manhood). I hope that people will take to heart that the video does not show everything. A quick elbow striking the officer is a literal attack on a police officer. The officer is trained to protect himself, keep his weapon from being taken by the attacker and protect the public. Snyder's previous physical encounter in the council room and his scoffing of laws of support of children prove him to be very capable of laughing at the law and placing himself "above" the common lawful man who supports his children and respects common law.

Posted by: Eric Location: Goshen on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:42 AM
It is clear that this officer used excess force. We do not need officials that act upon this way. I for one will voice my disgust of police officers acting like this and wait for the Roselawn Police force to do something about this officer. This is dispicable!

Posted by: SHARON SCANLAN on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:39 AM
I am wondering if David Synder is a little mental. I think he need some profressional help. I am not a member or even a contact of either party just a viewer. It seems to me that they (David and his |Wife) are in need of help.

Posted by: scott Location: south bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:37 AM
it is ok for david, dorothy,and davids dad to gang up on ted penn and beat his butt?now that the shoe is on the other foot they are crying like a bunch of school girls saying they have a group of palace guards.that group of people needs to start taking the punishment for their actions!!dorothy wake up you and your husband ARE NOT ANGLES!!!! the world knows what kind of idiots you and your posse truely are.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:32 AM
I don't know what Video you people are watching, but I see Snyder turn on the officer, who apparently was going to close the door behind him. The officer then pushes the man through the door and out on to the pavement. The reflection shows that he should have hit the ground face first. When the cameraman get a good view you can clearly see that Snyder is on his side. This does make it possibly that he was fighting back. Understand that failing to follow the Directions of an Officer in this state is considered Resisting. All Snyder had to do was Close his mouth and Leave. However, he didn't. Did you notice that Tiller's glasses were knocked off and broken??? So, there is a possibility that Snyder did strike him. You are innocent til proven guilty and thank god this will be decide by a judge because a lot of you aren't looking at this objectively. Oh and My kids would have shut their mouths and left. That wasn't the time or place to lip off....... sorry about your luck Dave!!!!!!

Posted by: Earnest Williams Location: New Orleans on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:31 AM
And I thought we had problems. We don't live in a police state with bullies serving as cops.

Posted by: Jay Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:30 AM
This is outrageous, this is not the way police should react to someone who is non violent. It's police brutality and Tiller shoud loose his job.

Posted by: BS Location: Wonderful Indiana on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:30 AM
The cop needs to go but so does David Snyder and his "beautiful" wife........and the council members should be right behind them. Time for a change and quit broadcasting this nonsense. Great impression of our area, again, again, and again.

Posted by: Jason Location: Benton Harbor on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:29 AM
Wait just a darned minute. The story WNDU has about this says that the prosecutor is gathering police reports so they can charge SNYDER today. What the heck man, did they not get a chance to see this vid? Sounds to me like they are just as corrup as the police. Everyone needs to start firing off emails to authorities and national media on this I now believe. Before more injustice is done. Also Tiller is the one that needs to be charged in my opinion and maybe even the other so called police officers that just stood there.

Posted by: Dot Location: Indiana on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:28 AM
Roseland should be dissolved and annexed to South Bend or a neighbor. The taxpayers can't afford to fund these immature antics. The actions of all are unacceptable

Posted by: Fred Location: Roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Snyder is a waste of life and deserves a good beating. That said, Tiller probably went too far, and in the process Snyder will probably win a lawsuit and have more money to not use on child support.

Posted by: LCB on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Bravo. This guy needs to be SBPD. Then maybe there wouldn't be so many shootings. Snyder provoked a conflict, used fighting words, and then tried to resist arrest.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: elkhart, in on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:24 AM
Synder finally got what was coming to him. Roseland has been a QUIET town all these years until the Synder's got envoled. He should be sent back to Texas and put in jail for being $100,000.'s of dollars behind in child support. Hopely things will quiet down after the first of the year. Peolpe are getting tired of hearing about their stupidity and their blaming others for their ignorance and making a mockey of the town.

Posted by: AJ Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:24 AM
Sandy, you need to read more often. The town is broke, Tiller and the officers weren't paid for a month, now they make ONLY $6 an hour. Why do they work there when they make this little? Because they actually care about the people. Get your head on straight and stop making assumptions. You know what happens when you assume.

Posted by: Mike Location: Tallahassee on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:24 AM
On second thought, this looked unprovoked - what was the need to put this guy down for? He was clearly on his way out the building - why didn't the police just escort him to his car? This was excessive in this case - but I'm curious to know what previous circumstances were leading up to this.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Most of you are just assuming Snyder made a derogatory comment. He may have very well threatened Tiller which would justify Tiller's actions. And as far as Snyder's hands being full, Please. That tripod in his right hand could still be used as a weapon. I'll stay on the fence with this one until all of the facts come out.

Posted by: Patti Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:19 AM
Can we just keep this dysfunctional town out of the news? Enough is enough. Count on Mitch, yeah, right! What an impression this makes on visitors to our area!! Good thing there's no home ND football game this weekend. All these "so-called officials" need to grow up and act like mature adults. I, too, reviewed the video and did not see an elbow slung at the officer. I just think there are too many tensions in that community, having started with the Snyders. Time for them to find another location. Maybe they thrive on the chaos. I'm quite sick of seeing it on the news. I travel quite a bit and never have seen this kind of chaos on their newscasts. What an impression we make! Grow up or get out!

Posted by: Mike Location: Tallahassee, FL on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:17 AM
The guy's acting out in a town meeting, cursing and swearing??? I hope more foolish people see this video and get wise about it.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:17 AM
Sure looks like Officer Tillman overacted and caused the incident.

Posted by: jtg Location: elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:16 AM
the roseland cheering section is made up of a female in a yellow shirt holding a camera i wonder if her camera caught a better angle of the beating and if she is ted penn's daughter and recorded it so the penn family and the tiller family can make a better plan of attack on the next victom if they can get officer tiller to slim down maybe he can do more damage to his prey and ted penn should study the video recant his story of event and say it was aliens on snyders face and tiller was just fighting them off for snyders own good .i bet ted penn also overheard snyder thanking tiller for the beating ,and lets hope charlie shields doesnt make penn or tiller mad i dont think shields could take a beating from tiller ,mabeye out run tiller .

Posted by: Eric Location: Bremen on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:13 AM
NBC could not write a "sitcom" any better! If you would put all the video that has been compiled so far on the Roseland town council... it would be in the 8:00 slot on Thursday night! Note to Roseland residents: Pick 3 or 4 people that you actually trust to run your town (with NO connections to Sheids, Penn, or Snyder) and START ALL OVER!

Posted by: Jim Location: Maryland on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:10 AM
It looks like Mike Spence was right Indiana is a lot like Iraq. Send this video to the Iraqi Parliament so they can take a look at American style democracy in action.

Posted by: Bobby Location: Northern Indiana on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:09 AM
David Synder is not one of my favorite people, but, he should not have been beaten. If the police can do this to him they can do this to anyone of us. This abuse of power by the police has to be stopped. Video clearly shows that Synder said something to Tiller, that Tiller pushed him, that Tiller was on top of Synder and punched Synder forcefully in the head, at least 4 times. This was a total abuse of power, by Tiller and he should be held responsible for his actions. I, also, think the other officer, that was present, should have done something to try to prevent this for continuing. I, also, think, that the person, who asked Synder if he tripped and fell, in a snide voice is an idiot and is low-life. The video, also, shows that Synder was not handcuffed, when incident first occurred. Ted Penn must think we are blind. Video, just shows, that Ted Penn is either blind or a liar, and that he is attempting to cover this up. Ted Penn's testimony can not be trusted. These are Gestapo tactics

Posted by: Woody Location: Nicholas on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:08 AM
When a law enforcement officer is attacked he must defend himself so assure his weapon does not become a part of the aggressor's attack. Snyder is known to have little respect for the law as reported with his feable excuse for non-payment of child support and a previous physical attack incident in the council room. It is also very apparent that the video does not show every action of Snyder or the officer. As Snyder is pushed toward the door one cannot tell what Snyder said or what aggresive action he did with his elbow which seems to be his main point of attack on the officer. The video does not show all the actions of Snyder or the officer. But, the officer has taken an oath to perform his duties and should be believed to be truthful. The officer protects the public and Snyder's actions have laughed at the law.

Posted by: Imaslapya Location: Granger on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:06 AM
A. Suggestion for WNDU- when covering anything pertaining to Roseland, please use the theme song for the movie Deliverance as a background. B. What a brave cop to beat an old silly, man, in the back of the head, while he is pinned on his stomach. You are most certainly a hero. And by that I mean coward/clown. See you at the drivethru soon! Looks like you already know about supersized, Tiller. C. You people defending that brutality deserve to have the back of your heads punched in while you are defenseless. Meanwhile, I'll stand back and applaud the cop as it happens.

Posted by: Charlie Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:03 AM
I think the officer involved used excessive force. Snyder had something in both his hands. To me it looked like the officer pushed him to ground. This whole situation is out of control. They all need to go home and let South Bend take over Roseland.

Posted by: DPete Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:02 AM
What an absolute embarassment for the whole area. What is the justification of Roseland even being a town when their only cause for existing is to fill up air time in the local news reports? Just when you think it can't get any more shameful, they, (Roseland Town Council), come up with a new episode. What could come up at the next meeting...Drive-by shootings with pellet guns and lawn mowers? I guess some people are not satisfied until they have successfully disgraced themselves on a national level.

Posted by: eNO Location: ct on Sep 15, 2007 at 10:02 AM
"DID YOU TRIP AND FALL?" That officer needs to be fired, arrested, and sued. in any order you choose.

Posted by: rw Location: sb on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:58 AM
I think the Synders are a piece of work....BUT by what i can see from the video. David Snyder WAS ASSAULTED! Why the punches, when another officer was there to assist????? He was leaving the meeting speaking.From the video..i see no "Fight" in the hall...just a over reactive officer. I TOTALLY support our officers, just not in this incident

Posted by: Karen Location: Moon Twp. PA on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:57 AM
Obviously, Mr. Snyder was on the ground, so tell me, how was he resisting arrest,at the same time you can see him being punched by Tiller, while face down, also if you look closely while Snyder is getting up, you can see red marks on his scalp, indicitive of being punched in the head by Tiller, while face down during arrest. Of course, while Snyder seems to have attitude, it certainly does not warrant the officer's behavior!

Posted by: Amanda Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:57 AM
Yeah i think they went to far with pounding his head into the ground. I could under stand if he had a gun and was threating to kill someone but this, no.

Posted by: joanne on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:53 AM
i am so sick of hearing the snyders name.it makes me never want to come to roseland. why don't the just step down & let this small comunity go on. it is very obvious that nobody likes them & especially his dead beat dad ways. he should be in jain on that alone.

Posted by: pete Location: michigan on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:51 AM
THE COP SHOULD BE IN JAIL!!! AND LET HIM TRY HITTING SOME OF THOSE GUYS:) I BET HE WOULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THEIR HANDS FULL:):)LIKE THEY SAY WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE SAME STUFF HAPPEN TO HIM:)l:)

Posted by: Paul Location: snyderville on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:51 AM
Just last summer the Snyders had an eighty yesr old man(Mr. Crouper) cuffed and bloodied in the town parking lot by there own hired gun (marshall Howell). Was it not the Snyders who beat Mr. Penn so brutally where he was hospitalized a few months ago? Where was ISP then? where was Mr. Divorak then? So Mr. Snyder gets a little taste of his own justice and everyone feels so sorry for him. The Snyders have destroyed a fine town and abused alot of good people. David Snyder is currently out on bond for another felony assult. When Snyder turned to phyically confront officer Tiller he crossed the line. I am very proud of our PD and sleep very well at night knowing Tiller and company are out there protecting us. Where was the help when Roseland needed it? No Where.( But hey, lets help the poor Snyders!!) Jack, If your reading this, the town is behind you and we appreciate your services.

Posted by: who Location: in on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:51 AM
This has been going on for to long. Wheres Mitch. Roseland should start charging admission for there town(circus) meetings. The way this go up there. I would not be surprised if Penn is called as a witness. Even though the video clearly shows no handcuffs.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:48 AM
After watching all the video and Ted Penn's reaction, I realize that there is not a honest person on that council. Snyder was NOT handcuffed, and he couldn't have hit him since he had his hands full. Tiller is just another egomaniacal cop using excessive force on a citizen. Did Ted even watch the video his daughter made? She was filming the whole time. He didn't even get close to what happened, yet he spouted off at the mouth for 2 minutes. Roseland is made to look foolish by a few, but unfortunately the impression most of the Michiana area gets from it is that it is a town full of trailer trash people with a lynch mob mentality.

Posted by: Zek on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:47 AM
The tape doesn't lie, it's very apparent from the footage that the cop shoved Snyder first for making a remark, then proceeded to take him to the ground outside and pummel his head. The vindictive comments made by some of the people standing around also give context to why this man was treated so brutally. It's obvious that he has made some enemies within the community, but still shocking that something so heinous could happen in such a public forum and anyone involved be ok with it. I would like to think Tiller would at the least be fired from his job for his obvious use of unnecessary force, but it will be interesting to see what actually happens.

Posted by: Randy Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:43 AM
I watched the video several times and yes it looked like Jack Tiller shoved David Synder, however I agree with others,it is difficult to see what happened after Tiller shoved David. My biggest disappointment with the police was how the other officers around never tried to stop anyone from leaving the area or even help out Tiller. It just seem like they had the look like you did it you finish it. THe one officers had the ammazed look. What I disliked the most was how the polide let Ted Penn daughter Sherry walk around taking pictures and shouting at Synder you got what you deserved like my dad did, so I assume that she meant that david Synder took a cheap shot because that was what her dad claimed when he got beat up by David. Everyone talks about David wouldn't shut up, how about Sherry Penn running her mouth. I agree, I think Roseland should be taken over, maybe it would give the county some additional money with all thier hotels and tax money they make. Attorney, Steve Catrer Help!!!!

Posted by: terry Location: knox, in. on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:42 AM
that was definitly police brutality, that officer should be fired.

Posted by: Anon Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:41 AM
I can't tell if Snyder hit (elbow or otherwise) Tiller. There is in fact, part of this event you can't see. One or two punches at the end...probably not necessary. Couple other observations: Nice Jag, for someone who can't pay child support (unless it is borrowed). Ted Penn is obviously wrong when he said Snyder was cuffed before he was outside. Who knows why he said that. Mitch has nothing to do with this anymore than the comparison to the Rodney King incident. Bottom Line: Roseland has turnd into a joke and the entire Government needs to be removed and replaced. There is too much corruption for any member to remain in place. Just my opinion. On to more important news - What is Jessica Alba wearing to the Emmy's??!!

Posted by: Judi Location: Michigan on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:40 AM
I do not approve of the Snyer's approach to governing, but in this situation, the Police went above and beyond the law. The video clearly shows, unless Snyder had an out of body experience, the Police Officer pushed him and initiated the incident. To allow such Police brutality is unheard of. If this was in a larger city, the Police Officers would have been suspended pending investigation. Roseland, once a decent place to visit, is now a disgrace and joke. Did the Officers involved think they could actually get away with such stupidity?? I will continue to avoid Roseland even if extra miles are driven to NOT come anywhere near this pitiful town. What a disgrace!

Posted by: stacy Location: southbend on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:37 AM
He got what he deserves

Posted by: Ryan Location: Roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:37 AM
Owning a business in Roseland, before and during the Snyder reign, has been one of the most interesting and SICKEST experiences in my life. These people are all nuts. It scares me to think the officials of our county and state can let this insanity continue. I sure can't say I didn't enjoy seeing Snyder get the ---- kicked out of him, but I think it was only done by Tiller out of the frustrations Snyder has caused him. We are suppost to be living in a society where our "officials" set an example for all to live by. I guess anyone that has to go into Roseland, IN, had better drive a Hummer with a machine gun mounted in the back and several pit bulls in the front seat to protect themselves from the officials there. I also cannot believe that The University of Notre Dame has not banned their students from entering adjacent Roseland, for their protection. THIS IS SICK !!!!!

Posted by: Kellie Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:32 AM
I can't believe that these people are supposed to be leaders of this town. I think my 3 and 4 year old are better behaved. I understand that they have been very rude and disrespectful to the people of Roseland, with the new council, they problems seem to only get worse. It's clear that no one likes the Snyders, so why can't they just get past it? He's not capable of running everything solo, there is no point in doing things that push his buttons, likewise he needs to behave in public. I wish that there was someone over all of them that could intervien and make them behave. I feel bad for the police officer who isn't getting paid because of this council's lack of self-control and can sympathize with him getting angry with the cause of it. Mr. Snyder needs to grow up and hopefully he will be able to be replaced soon.

Posted by: Mark on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:31 AM
I'm surprised there aren't more double-wides visible from the road when you drive through Roseland . . .

Posted by: Pamie Location: Warsaw on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:26 AM
Wow! I am so glad I don't live any closer to Roseland. It appears everyone there is out of control. Why on earth is Snyder even allowed to attend any City meetings. He is an instigator and that is his only purpose. The police obviously lost control as well. Roseland has far bigger problems than just money. Snyder should be caged for his animal behavior, at a minimum banned from any public meetings/gatherings. He is not capable of interacting with humans. ALL parties involved should face some ramifications!! Roseland needs new blood or the cycle will continue!

Posted by: mark on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:25 AM
roseland. a joke across the country now and forever. worse than a bunch of kids on the playground at recess.

Posted by: fan Location: roseland on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:21 AM
was that butterbean hitting david snyder

Posted by: curious Location: st joseph county on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:20 AM
most people say that was shocking video but for tiller that not so shocking look back at his other stunts over the years as a roseland officer and you wonder why he was let go from a deputy position at the county whats next for tiller a job at the post office

Posted by: Lee Location: Brooksville on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:19 AM
The laws are unfair to Men and Fathers. Its that simple. Of course the women say that the Man should pay, and i agree with you. But the pentalties for falling behind are too Unconstituional. What about the people in sunami, or the other huge flood, and hurricane disaster that wiped out everything. Including jobs. And what about the preachers wife who shot her Husband in the back, and Killed Him? She only got 5 months in jail..?And the courts are considering giving her children back to her?..Are they crazy. The laws must be changed. What if a mother violates court orders of Not allowing the Father to see His children? She should be fined, taxes, drivers license suspended, and jail. Fair is Fair. Most women/mothers can do away with there responsabilities and NOT be held accountable at all. Like abortion. And like, she can give THERE baby up for adoption, to fire station. Where is her responsabilities. There is none.

Posted by: Jack Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:15 AM
The Snyders continue to Not get it- They have run roughshod over the town of Roseland for years, bringing it to its knees with actions that appear to accommodate both David and Dorothys desire for money, power and some sort of ego enhancement. Having been exposed long ago they continue to wreak havoc in an effort to show that the adverse public reaction not only does not bother them, but also is an incorrect portrayal. They are being picked on. In reality, they are, as i saw on a Roseland yard sign "morally, ethicly, and financially bankrupt". They need to go quietly into the night. Cheryl Gridley is beyond belief- completely incompetent and pursuing a course that is incredibly damaging to the lives of the citizens and the viability of the town of Roseland.

Posted by: lucy on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:14 AM
who cares? he clearly deserves it!

Posted by: Justin Location: London on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:13 AM
This is clearly POLICE BRUTALITY! I don't know any of the people involved, but it looks like a bunch of out-of-control rednecks and I am sure there is a nice lawsuit coming that will make those hicks think twice before they cheer on the ignorance.

Posted by: pat Location: elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:12 AM
the roseland p.d. should be worried about if they have workmans comp insurance what if tiller hurt something other than snyder during the beating it was clear that snyder attacked tillers fist with his face and maybe after roseland town council gets the budget worked out they can get there officers brass knucles for officer safety

Posted by: Diana Location: Soutrh Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:10 AM
I am sick and tired of Dorothy, David, And Cheryl skating by the system and making a mockery of the U.S. Government procedures to benifit themselves. All 3 are the best bunch of liars ever. I still want to know what the Snyders and Gridley did with all the towns money they took. Snyders admitted they have money in a bank overseas, why can't that be investigated? He keeps scamming his kids on unpaid child support what's with that?? Snyder needs to sell his private vehicles and send the money to his kids ASAP, to help bring down the amount he is in arears.

Posted by: Kay Location: La Porte on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:08 AM
Mr. Synder did not touch the cop look at the reflection in the glass. The officer is wrong for punching the man no matter how much hard feelings they have. Are you this wasn't a clip from Jerry Springer? Especially with the woman in the back ground sayin something about "thats for my daddy" I'm watching this and I feel embarrassed for that woman acting like a freak on The Jerry Show

Posted by: Sam Location: In Michigan on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:08 AM
and to the person that said that Roseland is "South Bend's redheaded step-child". I take great offense to that statement. My son is a red-head and he has been the BEST SON IN THE WHOLE WORLD!! He is my BEST FRIEND so I would be very cautious of what you say and to whom you say it - you yourself might be tending to a bloody lip. ESPECIALLY if I should hear you....get it?? (My son has heard ENOUGH of the red-head jokes to last his entire lifetime, so yah, I AM TICKED OFF, can you tell??)

Posted by: ryan on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:05 AM
Just because you don't like someone, doesn't make it right for him to get assaulted by the police. What if that was your father instead of Snyder?

Posted by: Stephanie Location: Indiana on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:04 AM
I think reguardless of what really happended beyond the walls of that building, something needs to be done about the corruption that plagues that town... David Snyder deserves to be in jail no matter what the offense is... Oh yeah, and his crazy nut case of a wife should be locked up right next to him!

Posted by: John Location: Granger on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:04 AM
I am wondering how to go about getting a vendors license to sell hot dogs and popcorn outside the building. I wouuld appreciate one of the fine upstanding council members to check into that for me. As for the Snyder it's to bad he fell down and got a booboo. He should take the plumbers helpers job he was offered and maybe his wonderful wife Dorothy could sell her Jaguar to help him get new clothes and food for his kids. RED HOTS GET YOUR RED HOTS!

Posted by: Sam Location: In Michigan on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:03 AM
Can't we all just kiss and make up? To quote the infamous Proverb Jimmy Buffet, "Just Another Day in Paradise"!! Or how about, "Cheeseburgers in Paradise"? This whole mess has gotten totally out of control. EVERYONE was so totally wrong here.....it ALL STINKS! Snyder should have just kept his mouth shut and just leave. No one will ever really know WHAT exactly went on in that hallway. I guess it going to be left to the Prosecutor's Office to decide. I believe everyone there is NOT a good "eye witness" because they all are too opinionated and biased to give a straight point of view. Everyone there is slanted to the left or right and NO ONE is someplace in the middle and being objective. Let the cards fall where ever they may - this could very well be the END of many years of hatred and mistrust between this entire council. It should all be disbanded and let the State of Indiana do with it whatever they wish.....is it Margurita time now?

Posted by: Jennifer Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:03 AM
David's arguementive and aggressive behavior has gotten him in trouble yet again. He and his wife have caused horrible problems for Roseland and instead of trying to help correct these problems he keeps causing more.

Posted by: Sue Location: Mish on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:03 AM
Resisting arrest is a take down responce. It was NOT brutality. Snyders mouth was also derogitory.

Posted by: charles Location: south bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:01 AM
Doesnt appear that snyder could have possibly taken a swing at the officer...why the officer felt he had to push him after exiting the door, i dont know. Even tho i dont care for snyder and think he should give it up....the police kinda over went there boundries...and the comment at the end of the video about asking snyder if he fell.....We all could see the officer swingin at him.

Posted by: Terry Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:59 AM
I think the Roseland Police went way to far I an not a fan of the Snyder's, but if you look a the video how did he hit the officer with both hands full . I fill the officer, Shields, and Penn are lying. It is time to clean up the baby's of Roseland town council, It has gone on too long.

Posted by: diane Location: Niles, Mi on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:56 AM
Tedd Penn is not truthful in his statement. The video's clearly show that Snyder was not hand cuffed until after the cop beat him up. It looked to me like Tiller shoved Snyder as soon as they got passed the door and almost out of camera rainge. No reason to continue hitting him in the face. I don't care for the Snyders, but in this case I have to take their side. This is one reason why police loose our respect.

Posted by: Steve Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:56 AM
I am in no way a fan of the Snyder's. But looking at the footage shot what is being done to Marshal Tiller? Tiller clearly had Snyder face down and in control yet continued to beat the man. Another cop loosing control.

Posted by: Brian Location: South Bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:55 AM
Charlie Shields and Ted Penn should not be in their current position. They do not understand Roberts Rules of Order. David Snyder was given 1 Min to speak. In that min he can speak on any topic whatsoever, if that upsets Mr Shields that is is right. Mr Shields cannot throw someone out of a granted floor speech just be cause he doesn't like the man. David Snyder is no Saint but Charlie Shields is the Devil

Posted by: randy Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:55 AM
It seems to me that the Snyders seem to bring trouble on themselves. I feel David didn't deserve the "roughing up" he got but if he struggled with the officer then he should be treted like anyone else in the same situation. It may be time for the Snyders to get out of Roseland. David seems to be breaking laws by not paying child support so to me he shouldn't be "serving" the town of Roseland. I also feel the whole group on that town council needs to start acting like adults and not like a bunch of middle school children.

Posted by: dan Location: south bend on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:53 AM
We all are aware that David Snyder is a quack. The fact that he isn't in jail for back child support is beyond me. However, from what we are able to see in the video, it is clear that the officer who was beating Snyder's head should be reprimanded, possibly dismissed.

Posted by: Wayne on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:51 AM
What the problem is with the video is who seen what happen when they were out of the view of the camera? All Snyder had to do was resist anytime and the police has the right to do what it takes. Roseland should have gotten him off the board along time ago. Cops aren't respected at all in america. They are loved by some and hated by many. They do make mistakes because they are human. I don't know what happen but synders track record isn't too good. I don't know about the officer. Any man who doesnt take care of his kids has lost all respect and privilege in my book.

Posted by: Brian Location: Pittsburgh on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:49 AM
It's time police stop treating decent people like common criminals. No one wants to be handcuffed period. Unless you are causing physical harm to the officer he has no right to do what he did to Mr. Snyder. We need to look at what some of these cops are doing to people and how they abuse their power because any cop that is trying to well gets a bad name because of people like this.

Posted by: charles Location: culver on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:47 AM
the town of roseland is a disgrace to the people of america! Is this what our troops are fighting for? Is this what we what our children is see? This alone is an example of what is wrong with America, we all should be ashamed.

Posted by: youth Location: north judson on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:46 AM
dear officer tiller i am a 14 year old high school student that gets picked on by bigger kids i have $20 a week allowence that i have been saving for sometime now if you beat up the bullies at my school like that maybe i could put you in a higher tax bracket

Posted by: Kevin Location: New Paris on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:46 AM
I think this latest incedent is something bigger and has gone on longer than what people realize. For at least the past 2-years, Roseland has become synonomous with the term "Farce". What the community needs to do is get rid of ALL the council members and start fresh with a new group of mature people who truly care about their community. As far as the police officer and his conduct, it's hard to tell with the video. One thing is for certain, the community has a black eye due to the egos of ALL the committee members, including the chairman. Change is needed and the quicker the better.

Posted by: Hornswoggle on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:44 AM
Put the Snyders, Penn & Shields in rassling tights and hold a no DQ tag team match at the ACC with the proceeds being used to pay Snitch Tiller and DV (Domestic Violence) Toner their salary.

Posted by: JOHNNY Location: ELKHART on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:43 AM
I THINK ITS A SHAME THAT POLICE CAN GET AWAY WITH BETTING A MAN ON THE GROWND WHILE ON TOP OF HIM AND GET NO KIND OF PUNISHMENT. IF THE POLICE CAN DO IT THEN WHY CANT EVERYONE ELSE, SAME RULES APLY FOR EVERYONE I THOUGHT? COPS THESE DAYS THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW BECAUSE OF THE BADGE THEY WEAR. HOW CAN YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO OBAY THE LAW WHEN POLICE CAN BREAK THEM WHENEVER THEY WANT OR FEEL ITS NECCESARY.LETS SEE WHAT KIND OF PUNISHMENT THE OFFICER THAT WAS BEATTING ON MR. DAVID SNYDER WILL GET, PROBABLY NOTHIN, YOU'LL NEVER HEAR ANOTHER WORD ABOUT HIM BUT I AM POSITIVE THAT DAVID SNYDER WILL GET INTO TROUBLE FOR WHAT HE DONE. ITS A SHAME POLICE ARE ALLOWED TO DO WHAT THEY WANT!

Posted by: sherry on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:41 AM
I don't see where he hit the police officer.. Alls i seen was david walking out with the police officer and all of a sudden the officer took him down. So where at did david hit the officer??? Something needs to be done about all the problems up there. I guess having officers there dosen't even help. does it?

Posted by: Dawn Location: Elkhart on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:41 AM
As you can see, the two other officers that were assisting Officer Tiller, was trying to get Officer Tiller to stop using such force. You can also see in the reflect of the glass in the hallway, that this man did not make any such "punches" as the officer was stating. It seems that maybe this officer is too close to the situation at hand and maybe his emotions are already alittle too high. It's officers like this that make everyone afraid of the people who are suppose to be the "good guys." I am not trying to defend the man on the ground but evidence pretty much speaks for itself.

Posted by: Brandon Location: Valparaiso on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:40 AM
This is outrageous. I don't care how much of a jerk Snyder was/is. He didn't throw ANY punches. He was clearly pushed by the cop first and then thrust to the ground and beaten. This is sickening. The police officer involved was out of line! He should at least be fired and will probably be sued big time.

Posted by: paul Location: montreal on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:38 AM
someone posted the cops in this place make $6.00 an hour? LOL! How did this fat moron cop afford all the donuts to get so fat?

Posted by: Lisa Location: Plymouth on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:36 AM
Truth will come out.. CNN, MSNBC and Fox News have the video, all over the web as well. Tiller might as well turn himself in now.

Posted by: cloyd Location: Mishawaka on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:36 AM
I disagreed last night and this morning I'm amazed at how we the public can try & convict a person before the charge as been filed. And e were not there to see what happened. The video that you are watching only shows the beginning and ending of the confrontation that took place. Just like in a football game, the Ref only sees the retaliation hence only one person gets the penalty ( right ). So lets not be so quick to convict until all facts are in.So remember there is a period of time that you can't see what transpired during the confrontation. And Marshall Jack Tiller did not make that remark about falling down. That came from someone in crowd.

Posted by: Bill White on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:32 AM
Wow, I just watched the mayors explanation. This is like a small bush administration lies, bullying, people are gonna start disapearing soon.... Lying coocoo mayor. But then again he got elected by the majority. Go figure

Posted by: Kim Location: Argos on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:31 AM
Did I hear Ted Penn say that Snyder was in handcuffs when he was being led out???? LOL Will some higher authorities PLEASE come to Roseland and do some house cleaning? This is so riduclous. NONE of these people are respectable. Ted.. You should be so embarrassed that you remove yourself from your position this morning. You disgust me to no end with your lies to the media but thanks for the laugh. It's a great way to start a day and I hope this story gets aired all over the country. I am sending Court Tv the link. Shame on ALL of you! And for the people who cheered, jeered, and acted like animals. SHAME on all of you. You all acted like a bunch of drunk rednecks at closing time. DISGUSTING! To whom ever got this video.. Thank you! It's nice to see the truth of what happened here. David is not an ideal citizen but the video clearly shows his innocence here and someone is going to have to pay. Tiller does not deserve the badge. SHAME on you Jack! Your career is over! McDonalds is hiring

Posted by: Daniel Location: Louisville on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:30 AM
Typical pig... most people that are cops, shouldn't be. Tiller probably got beat up a bunch in high school and is trying to make up for his lack of true manhood.

Posted by: paul Location: montreal on Sep 15, 2007 at 08:29 AM
That obese officer is liar bigtime... He pushes a guy down from behind and wails on this guys head from behind. I hope he loses his job, so he can