Financial rewards for recycling customers?
Financial rewards for recycling customers? Save Email Print
St. Joseph County, IN
Posted: 6:41 PM Jan 12, 2009
Last Updated: 1:01 PM Jan 13, 2009
Reporter: Mark Peterson
Email Address: mark.peterson@wndu.com

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There's a new 'greedy' way to go green, and St. Joseph County may soon become part of it.

The St. Joseph County Solid Waste Management District Board is considering a program that would provide financial rewards for curbside recycling customers to contribute even more materials.

If some airlines give away frequent flier miles, and some credit card companies offer cash back programs, why shouldn't there be a good old fashioned gimmick that would allow someone to cash in on a trip to the curb?

"It awards points to people for their recycling activities," said Atul Nanda of RecycleBank. "Based on those points that people earn, they can redeem them for rewards that they can use in their local economy."

For instance, Target will knock five dollars off a $50 purchase for a specified number of points, according to the RecycleBank website.

"On average most people are earning the equivalent of $240 per rewards per year, which more than offsets any fees they might be paying for their trash or recycling programs," said Nanda.

In some communities, RecycleBank says it will keep track of individual households and award points based on the amount of recycled materials left at the curb.

In St. Joseph County the proposal calls for a community-based approach. Points would be awarded by looking at the performance of groups of customers along specific pick-up routes.

"We'd take a look at the weights, how many tons of recyclables or pounds of recyclables were generated by that collection truck and everybody on that specific route would earn the same number of points," said Nanda.

South Bend Mayor Stephen Luecke was one member of the St. Joseph County Solid Waste District Management Board who liked what he heard about the program at today's meeting. "We've kind of played all of our cards that we can from the traditional solid waste management side so to be able to hook into a program that provides rewards to people for doing more recycling makes a lot of sense," Luecke said.

After all, St. Joseph County curbside recyclers now have 96-gallon wheeled totes to replace the 18-gallon open bins they used to use.

Perhaps a push to actually use the extra capacity couldn't hurt, especially when you consider that St. Joseph County recyclers tend to look like lightweights when compared to communities that have already adopted the RecycleBank program.

"Our history in other communities in the east coast and Cherry Hill, New Jersey, we're recycling over 1200 pounds per household. Right now in St. Joseph County we're around 350-pounds per household per year. So we believe we can more than double St. Joseph County, our average is between 800 and 900 pounds of recyclables per household," said Nanda.

RecycleBank has traditionally made its money by taking a cut of the sale of the additional materials a program brings in. That's money the communities wouldn't see otherwise.

Lately, that approach has taken a beating as the prices being paid for recyclable materials have plunged.

Today, RecycleBank wanted a $270,000 upfront payment to do business in St. Joseph County and some on the waste management board balked.

"I thought it was a reasonable fee," said South Bend Mayor Stephen Luecke. "But I think board members really needed some more time to digest that, to look at it."

The proposed contract with RecycleBank has been tabled until the waste management board's March meeting.

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Posted by: Emily Location: South Bend on Jan 26, 2009 at 06:17 PM
Reportedly, 3000 residents have not as yet received the new LARGE recycle bin. I will gladly offer up mine. I don't know why the intelligent people that makes decisions for us didn't consider the older seniors or the single person households, that wouldn't fill the monster up in a month. We could use one half the size. Not to mention the hassle of getting it to the curb. I had an area shoveled out last week to place it in, and after the pick-up it was just dumped to fall where ever, laying sideways with the lid open. Make the last 3000 in a smaller version and I bet many seniors and small households would appreciate an exchange!

Posted by: Bookkeeper Location: Colfax Ave on Jan 14, 2009 at 01:19 PM
Glad to hear this is ONLY a proposal, probably something Luecke and the people at RecycleBank cooked up. OF COURSE Luecke was in favor of the proposal. It makes him feel good handing over tax dollars. I wonder which Board members "balked" at the idea. I hope they'll pull the plug on this before we wind up with another unwanted, overly expensive, "service." (Here is the website that tells us who is on the Solid Waste Management District Board: http://www.swmd.org/org_staff.asp )

Posted by: es Location: south bend on Jan 13, 2009 at 02:31 PM
J in New Carlile - It's nice to know that others haven't received their new 96 gal. container yet. My one question is - how will the plows get around all our recycling bins???? And, I live on a snow route!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Tribal Warrior Jan 12, 2009 at 10:52 PM, That's an awesome idea! And as such, it will never happen in this area run by half-witted, greedy trolls. Instead of dropping major $$ to pay some outside corp. to do this, why don't they use some abandoned factory building, and use prison labor to do this? Save $$ and put the scum to work!

Posted by: Ross Location: Mishawaka on Jan 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM
The St. Joseph County Solid Waste Management District is one of the more idiotic ideas imposed on people by the government. This Recycle Bank will only amplify that nonsense. This program gives me no real incentive to enhance my recycling. If want coupons or a mere 10% discount I can down load that kid of stuff off the internet. I don't have to depend on neighbors or strangers a mile further down on the trash route to increase their recycling output in order to gain any coupons. Instead of buying into (to the tune of $270,000) schemes and scams or looking for more excuses to pick the pockets of the few people fortunate to remain employed perhaps mayor Steve and his comrades could learn to do some more surgery on their bloated budgets. Here's a suggestion: Maybe the mayor and the council members should take a cut in compensation (actual pay and benefits) so they could be on the level of the residents of St. Joe county. It would be a good place to start.

Posted by: Pat Location: Bristol on Jan 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Sounds like another stupid idea from a city on the way down.I can't wait to get rid of the last property I own in South Bend.

Posted by: Joany Location: East Side on Jan 13, 2009 at 09:54 AM
What a stupid idea.I hope everyone already knows that there is a kick back to the ciy on this gargage.You have to spend $50 to save $5 ? They think everyone is stupid..

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 13, 2009 at 09:45 AM
Just another dumb idea. The county can't meet it's budget needs as is and they are going to fund this? Request denied!

Posted by: anonymous Location: south bend on Jan 13, 2009 at 09:02 AM
I'm not recycling until they deliver me a flipping garbage can that I requested TWO years ago! I got my brand new recycling can, but am still waiting on the garbage one! Unbelievable!

Posted by: Jerry Location: Mishawaka on Jan 13, 2009 at 08:55 AM
To answer all those wondering why they just don't make it cheaper or reduce some other cost is they buy that $5.00 dollar gift card at a reduced cost. Target sells them for less factoring in the average of 50%-60% of them will never be used. Same way these company's give away free trips or free gifts. Jump through the hoops or pay the shipping you can have it. This one is Spend $50.00 to save $5.00 for all of us that never shop there or other large chain stores this program will mean nothing. If they really want to impress me why don't they try and support local business's instead of national chains I will go out of my way to support a locally owned business we need to support those in our community and send the others packing.

Posted by: Mary Location: sb on Jan 13, 2009 at 08:15 AM
Our Mayor says he is doing everything to lower our taxes, trying to slim down the budget, but then the next thing you hear him saying is that he wants to drop 270K like its pocket change. Quit Spending Our Money So freely!! If you don't have the money, it doesn't matter how nice it looks -- you can't afford it.

Posted by: k Location: New Carlise on Jan 13, 2009 at 08:14 AM
Now.....if only I could GET a 96-gallon can (Called 3 times already and still haven't received) and they didn't pick up my recycle last week (they previous company didn't the time before.....so it's been a month now). They hope to get to it NEXT time. Trash will have picked it up by than. This company is not leaving a good impression so far....I'm not in favor of paying ANYBODY $270,000 until they get there act together. Right now, I just want them to pick my recylce up!

Posted by: Tribal Warrior Location: Goshen, IN on Jan 12, 2009 at 10:52 PM
How about turning a closed down RV plant, into a massive recycling center, much like OmniSource, but for glass/plastics/paper(cardboard). Work out a pay for pound system for each type of items. It would take money to develope, but the buildings are already there. Paying ot recycle is a joke. And saving $5, but you have to spend $50 is an even bigger joke.

Posted by: Public $afety on Jan 12, 2009 at 10:01 PM
So our Mayor came out of hiding to be quoted on this doozy of a recycling program. We still haven't heard about Luecke's plan to spend the 47 million dollars in the reserve funds he and Controller Catherine Fanello are holding. Time to scurry back to the 14th floor.

Posted by: Shoppy Location: OC on Jan 12, 2009 at 09:50 PM
Keep Luecke hands off of it or he will figure out a way to tax it.

Posted by: Lew Location: La Porte on Jan 12, 2009 at 09:19 PM
It's the ultimate "feel-good" activity. But here's the truth: recycling is garbage. The recycling industry creates pollution, has to be subsidized by the government because it's cost ineffective, and is completely unnecessary.

Posted by: Susan Location: South Bend on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:56 PM
This just sounds like a really stupid way to spend $270,000.... I have gift cards from Target that have never been used. $5.00 is not going to encourage me to recycle more. And, if the amount of recycling increases dramatically, the new recycle company will want to renegotiate their contract since the quantity would have risen more than what they bid for. So in the long run, we will each pay $10.00 more per month to get $5.00 Target gift card probably once per year. Give me a break from the stupidity of our local leaders...... This ranks right up there with the logic of now having huge 96 gallon containers sitting in the front yards of houses and buying a Jumbotron to make our downtown look like a circus midway zone, but with bullets flying nearby....

Posted by: Taxpayer Location: St. Joseph County on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:49 PM
I want to know why we have to PAY to recycle in the first place!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joe the taxpayer on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:33 PM
Yes thats right St. Joe Co. is making money off this program at least 2 ways. Tax payers must pay for the service and the recyclable material is sold for a profit.

Posted by: You can call me JACK Location: South Bend on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:24 PM
$ 270,000. Let's see, I only need to sign up 10 cities and I get $ 2,700,000. Not too shabby ! AND I am going to get a cut of the additional action ! And I probably also charge the participating merchants a fee....so I am doing pretty good here ! I agree with the others, take my REWARDS off my monthly bill ! WHAT A NIGHTMARE THAT WILL BE ! And, yes, we will have to add more cops to the beats to stop the recycle thieves......Go away, RecycleBank, go far, far away !

Posted by: Jon Location: South Bend on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:23 PM
Wow, a lot of posts with people that are pro-pollution. I look at my children and that is incentive enough for me to recycle. Ever notice the mountain forming in the county landfill, yeah....

Posted by: Erin Location: SB on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:21 PM
Those county trash cans were a horrible idea. For those who live in the country with very long driveways, they are incredibly heavy to drag to the end of the driveway. There are many neighbors who have to keep them at the end of the driveway because it's either too heavy, driveway is too long, or they have to drag it up or down a hill. I was up for getting larger ones, but if we can't even put them in our cars it's very inconvenient. My parents have stopped recycling for the winter because of it. Plan=backfired

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:03 PM
Sticky Luecke strikes again. Watch your wallets everyone.

Posted by: Timmy Location: South Bend on Jan 12, 2009 at 07:20 PM
so, not only do we have to pay for the recycling service, as taxpayers we'd have to cough up $270,000 too? All this to get $5.00 off at Target? I smell a rat!! BTW, did you realize most of the recycled materials are sold to China? They process them into consumer goods and ship it back over here for us to buy AGAIN.

Posted by: Mike Location: South Bend on Jan 12, 2009 at 07:18 PM
Let's see....points awarded to larger weights and an upfront fee? I see the recyclables being stolen from one neighborhood to boost the points in another. And an upfront fee? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we making cut backs on police and fire personel? Cutting back on the snow removal because we don't have the money? So where is this $270,000 upfront fee coming from, and what is it paying for? If the prices being paid for recyclable items is plunging, what incentive would RecycleBank have to stay in business in our area after we paid the upfront fee? Let them earn their keep like the rest of us do.

Posted by: Dave Location: St. Joe County on Jan 12, 2009 at 07:16 PM
I'll weigh your trucks for 270 grand. I would balk too.

Posted by: A home owner on Jan 12, 2009 at 07:14 PM
Why don't they just knock it off the water bill? Or use it to pay for the releaf tax, how about the transpo tax and the airport tax. I'd rather have my bill lowered then have to go to a store I don't shop at. This whole idea of 'we'll give you money back if you do this' is bs. Give my money back by lowering what I have to pay, not what I'd have to spend to get it back. Lets see, 50 at target - 5...I'm still out 45 bucks not to mention the fact I had to drive there and burn gas {since its out of my way to shop (yes gas is cheap for now, but how long?})

Posted by: amanda Location: south bend on Jan 12, 2009 at 07:03 PM
I like the idea of a reward program, but I am with the board on this one. 270 thousand dollars?! We don't have the money for salt on our roads, where do they proprose to come up with that kind of money? Oh wait, they'll just raise our taxes!


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