Update: 16 Irish student-athletes among the 37 arrested in underage drinking raid
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Posted: 7:16 PM Sep 21, 2008
Last Updated: 4:57 PM Sep 22, 2008
Reporter: Erin Logan and Angelo Di Carlo

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As NewsCenter 16 first reported on Sunday, two Notre Dame football players were among the 37 people arrested early Sunday morning as part of an underage drinking blitz.

At least 16 of those arrested were Notre Dame student-athletes.

St. Joe County Police first told NewsCenter 16's Erin Logan the list includes members of the football, and men's and women's lacrosse team.

Erin was also the first to speak to Notre Dame football coach Charlie Weis about the situation after his Sunday press conference. Weis said, at the time, he had just found out about the situation and was looking into it.

The two football players were junior tight end Will Yeatman, 20, and freshman offensive lineman Mike Golic Jr., 18.

Yeatman was booked for minor consumption, false informing and resisting arrest, according to a release Monday morning from St. Joe County police.

Yeatman, who has started all three games for the Irish this season, has two catches for six yards on the season. Earlier this year he was arrested for DUI and was suspended from both the football and lacrosse teams for the spring semester.

Golic Jr. has not played yet this season and was charged with minor consumption. He is the son of former Irish great Mike Golic.

Among those also arrested were Irish women's basketball player Brittany Mallory, 19. Mallory was a key reserve in Notre Dame's run to the Sweet 16 this spring. Mallory was booked for minor consumption.

Many of those arrested were members of the men's and women's lacrosse teams, including women's lacrosse starting goalie Erin Goodman, 20, who was booked for minor consumption, resisting arrest and maintaining a common nuisance.

Three of women's lacrosse players arrested were 21 years old (Shannon Burke, Lauren Demello and Beth Koloup) and were booked for maintaining a common nuisance.

Among the men's lacrosse players arrested were Scott Rodgers, 21, who was expected to take over as the Irish starting goalie this year. Rodgers was booked for resisting arrest.

The raid was a part of the "Stop Underage Drinking" campaign and was performed by St. Joe County Police, ISP, and Indiana State Excise Police.

South Bend Police also arrived to help secure the scene.

The arrests were made at a house party at 702 Colfax in South Bend.

After the two football players names were confirmed by NewsCenter 16, Weis released a statement to the media that repeated what he had told Erin earlier in the day.

“I was made aware of the situation late this afternoon and am currently looking into the matter," Weis said on Sunday night.

A total of three empty kegs of beer were found at the home along with hundreds of empty beer cans and drinking cups both inside and outside the residence, according to the release issued by the St. Joe County Police.

Police say people were found hiding under beds, in closets, in the attic and in the basement.

Here is a complete list of names of the 37 arrested and booked:

Football Players:

  • Golic, Michael (18) Minor Consuming
  • Yeatman, William (20) Minor Consuming, False Informing, Resisting Arrest

Women’s Basketball Player:
  • Mallory, Brittany (19) Minor Consuming

Men’s Lacrosse Players:
  • Barnes, Samuel (20) Minor Consuming
  • Bemer, Timothy (19) Minor Consuming
  • Connor, Thomas (19) Minor Consuming, Possession of False ID
  • Irving, Andrew (19) Minor Consuming
  • Lanser, Charles (20) Minor Consuming
  • McKenna, Kelly (20) Minor Consuming
  • Rodgers, Scott (21) Resisting Arrest

Women’s Lacrosse Players:
  • Bernier, Amelia (19) Minor Consuming
  • Burke, Shannon (21) Maintaining a Common Nuisance
  • Demello, Lauren (21) Maintaining a Common Nuisance
  • Goodman, Erin (20) Maintaining a Common Nuisance, Minor Consuming, Resisting Arrest
  • Koloup, Elisabeth (21) Maintaining a Common Nuisance
  • Nangle, Flannery (18) Minor Consuming, Resisting Arrest

Others Arrested:
  • Allen, Blake (19) False ID and Possession of drug paraphernalia
  • Anderson, Nathan (19) Minor Consuming
  • Ashenburg, Benjamin (18) Minor Consuming, False Informing
  • Dobson, Devon (19) Minor Consuming
  • Gaudreau, Kelly (20) Maintaining a Common Nuisance, Minor Consuming, Possession of False ID
  • Greissing, Connor (18) Minor Consuming
  • Guarnieri, Catherine (20) Minor Consuming
  • Harris, Christopher (18) Minor Consuming
  • Karam, Martha (18) Minor Consuming
  • McCarron, Wayne (20) Minor Consuming
  • Millay, David (19) Minor Consuming
  • Peterson, Edward (18) Minor Consuming
  • Power, Colton (19) Minor Consuming
  • Rogers, Sean (18) Minor Consuming
  • Saulitis, John (20) Minor Consuming
  • Schaus, Robert (18) Minor Consuming
  • Tripucka, Regis (20) Minor Consuming
  • Wardlow, William (18) Minor Consuming
  • Washburn, Catherine (18) Minor Consuming
  • Vecchio, Brett (20) Minor Consuming
  • Veith, Mary (21) Maintaining a Common Nuisance


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Posted by: alanna Location: philadelphia on Nov 18, 2008 at 08:55 PM
I say omg that is relly crazy.. But if i was a police officer i would of not arrested them if they did not resicisted.. If they let me but the cuffs on them nd they did everything i said when we go to the station i might write up a 300 dollar fine for relaess in dangerment..But if u rescised iam defnly going to charge u with rescitested arrest nd for drinking under the age.. But what i have to say about that is it should be about how old someone is it should be about how mature someone is. U could be 21 nd not be mature nd have 20 berrs of achool nd then past out. So i would say the drinking age should be 18 since that legal. I mean i would say that it ok to drink as a teen bc achool effects ur body depending on how much u drink. So i say tat kids should be alould to drink a lilltle bit once in a while. Like i think kids should drink on 4th of july to celbrate the people that r giving there lives to percet us. But not too much!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 6, 2008 at 05:12 PM
omg underage drinking happens evreywhere and most people dont suffer any conseqeunces about time!! but i do tink it was unfair coz most ppl jus have to pay a fine!! yea their names shouldnt have been listed they are underahge and have the right to be protected up until they are eighteen!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 3, 2008 at 10:57 PM
honestly..who cares who got arrested? i don't think their names should be listed.

Posted by: lex on Oct 3, 2008 at 06:43 PM
this is ridiculus. cops lighten up, go irish!!

Posted by: george Location: pennsylvania on Oct 1, 2008 at 12:19 PM
how come it is always notre dame that gets this ink when their are other schools who do far more worse crimes like shootings at parties, bars - players that can not spell their names but are winning national championships and never graduate. how about our corrupt financial institutions and government. come on folks wake up. notre dame does a wonderful job of educating students and teaching right from wrong. I just wonder if other colleges and universities have drinking parties????

Posted by: george Location: pennsylvania on Sep 29, 2008 at 04:15 PM
freedom of speech. please post email that cops have nothing to do better than picking on college kids. why do not they channel their efforts in going after child molesters, thieves. murderers, and druggies who ruin society. I guess that is too tough and dangerous to handle - earn your salaries you cowards.

Posted by: Police out of Line? on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:20 AM
Maintaining a Common Nuisance? Those who were arrested for this should file suit against the Indiana State Police is they are 21, including personal law suits against the officers. If they were 21, they should have been able to walk away. There were NO nieghborhood complaints in accordance with the report so how would , "Maintaining a Common Nuisance" appply? I am for them arresting those for minor consumption but Maintaining a Common Nuisance? What a joke...

Posted by: Don Location: indiana on Sep 29, 2008 at 07:33 AM
Hey lighten up these kids made a mistake they will pay their fine, and go on. If you think that a bunch of young adults drinkning is the end of the world then go hang out with chicken little and keep an eye on the sky it may fall soon. remember humans not perfect.

Posted by: bonnie Location: elkhart on Sep 26, 2008 at 04:28 PM
The Law Is The Law it doesn't matter if you're a Notre Dame student or a student from anywhere else. It happened so let it happen. Everyone who gets caught will pay the consequences "Notre Dame or Not"

Posted by: Rabid Irish Fan Location: Standing Tall on Sep 26, 2008 at 02:20 PM
TIMMY, actually it is about half Rep. and half Dem...

Posted by: Cliff Saxon Location: Altoona, AL on Sep 26, 2008 at 02:00 PM
These college presidents can stop this if they want to. All they need to do is require all college students under 21 to submit to random alcohol testing and expel those breaking the law!

Posted by: DJ Location: Mishawaka on Sep 26, 2008 at 09:06 AM
And this is a shock! Come on people,..... there are many students at big university's that getting drunk is an everyday activity!,..wake up America!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 26, 2008 at 07:43 AM
Aby- no there hasn't. Plus this party is within walking distance to campus. They could have been drinking and walking.

Posted by: TIMMY Location: south bend on Sep 25, 2008 at 09:45 PM
ah, heck, all they have to do is say a few HAIL MARYs and all will be ok. Like anyone is going to seriously do anything to upset the powers that be in South Bend? Notre Dame is catholic. Catholics are 99% democrat. Democrats run South Bend.

Posted by: aby Location: mi on Sep 25, 2008 at 08:57 PM
Thank God the police got there before the students got into a car. A ND student has died every year due to drinking. Yes, the athletes will get bailed out and we can cheer them on in a football game!

Posted by: Anon Location: Here on Sep 25, 2008 at 03:48 PM
They DIDN'T DRIVE!!! Read the article!!! A, A "rash" do to underage drinking? Name 3 in the past month and I will consider it a "rash".

Posted by: Paul on Sep 25, 2008 at 01:22 PM
The SB Trib just ran a story today how violent crimes are up across the board in South Bend. While these 37 officers were busy arresting college kids for drinking beer (oh the horror) and "maintaining a public nusience" Two people were shot, three robberies, and one rape took place. Is this really the best use of tax payer resources? Me not think so!!

Posted by: Monica Location: South Bend on Sep 25, 2008 at 12:24 PM
These are supposed to be the best and the brightest...I'm starting to think that they aren't!

Posted by: conrad on Sep 25, 2008 at 05:26 AM
Im glad that the police did something about the parties at the house in question. I have lived near that house for years and it has ALWAYS been a aparty house. And for Michael, yes the drinking agw is 18 in Europe, but most of the people in Erurope DON'T DRIVE!, so drinking and driving is not an answer. I think we are over doing this ast weekend. All I ask is that the people involved learn a lesson and move on, and that we forget about this. Remember to all the college students turn down the music and go inside after midnight.

Posted by: jessica Location: elkhart on Sep 24, 2008 at 07:32 PM
its ok, mommy and daddy will bail them out

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Sep 24, 2008 at 05:27 PM
they'll never learn!

Posted by: blah on Sep 24, 2008 at 03:33 PM
this is blown SO out of proportion. college kids drink. ALL college kids drink. the south bend police need to relax and lay off the athletes.

Posted by: A Location: Michigan on Sep 24, 2008 at 01:27 PM
And to annonymous in California - i agree, one does NOT always lead to the other...but unfortunately, here in Michiana we've had a recent rash of traffic deaths related to underage drinking. So, we have a tendency to associate (and thus WORRY about) the two.

Posted by: A Location: Michigan on Sep 24, 2008 at 01:22 PM
For those who say "Every one drinks underage" seem to forget that everyone should also suffer the consequences for their actions! And THANK YOU to the police for hauling these kids in before anyone of them had a chance to get behind the wheel. When i was 6 years old, my entire family was hospitalized (and my mother almost killed) by a drunk driver hitting us head on - he was returning home from a bar, while we were on our way to SCHOOL! Hopefully some of these kids will remember the humiliation, and maybe the loss of some privilages and be more careful in the future....yes we all make stupid mistakes from time to time, but getting arrested allows them the opportunity to 'LIVE and learn'...much easier than dying or killing someone in an accident.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: California on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:22 PM
I noticed that there seems to be some confusion regarding two very distinct issues: (1) underage drinking, and (2) driving under the influence. The former does not necessarily lead to the latter. In fact, it is a rare occassion that first and second-year students at ND have cars at all. Dialogue about underage drinking certainly benefits us all. But please, focus! If you really have a problem with 18, 19 and 20 year-old students drinking at a house party, fine. But don't assume that they will inevitably do anything but call a taxi van to take them home.

Posted by: Slade Location: Mishawaka on Sep 24, 2008 at 11:46 AM
How can you arrest someone who is 21...for maintaining a common nuisance....unless your the one who was throwing the party.

Posted by: Honest One on Sep 24, 2008 at 11:15 AM
None of this matters. They will continue to drink and drink and drink and drink some more. They will eventually drive, and kill someone. Its going to happen....period

Posted by: carrie Location: sb on Sep 24, 2008 at 10:08 AM
KK, your posting was spot on! It seems to have slipped everyones mind as to what could have happended if any one of these students had gotten into a car to drive! Would all of you be so willing to forgive them then? "Everyone has done it" wouldn't sound so good if they had just hit your family memeber after driving drunk! I know they weren't busted for drunk driving but I am glad that they were busted before it came to that! Bottom line they broke the law plain and simple. Don't like it don't break the law. It would be a much different story if they were busted with drugs instead of beer. Would you all be so willing to forgive and forget then?

Posted by: Michael Location: South Bend on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:50 AM
In Europe the drinking age is 18 and they have far less issues with binge drinking, drinking and driving. More and stricker laws are not the answer. http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/YouthIssues/1077563832.html

Posted by: Joe Location: S.B. on Sep 24, 2008 at 07:40 AM
These underage partys happen everywhere. These kids where at the wrong place wrong time. Just do their community service and get on with their lives! GO IRISH!!!

Posted by: ND student Location: Notre Dame on Sep 24, 2008 at 12:45 AM
"Gather them all together and have them clean up the neighborhoods ...and to help out the elderly with home improvemnet. Roofs, gutters need to be replaced painting needs to be done, basements and garages need to be cleaned out leaves will need to be raked there is our labor for free" oh wait, we already do this. It's one of the many things ND students voluntarily do to help the South Bend community. Did the partiers act slightly foolishly? Probably. Did the police grossly overreact, especially considering the other problems the city faces? Absolutely.

Posted by: DJC Location: South Bend on Sep 23, 2008 at 10:11 PM
What bothers me the most are all the idiots that like to say the most ridiculous things when it comes to any college student getting busted for drinking. So what. I moved here from Chicago 5 years ago. You know what makes the news, corrupt politicians (Roseland), officers arrested for DUI/Assault (urinating in the middle of the street), guns in schools (way to go Washington), robbery/murder (homeless people killing for aluminum), oh and underage drinking. You have to be kidding me to allow this many morons give their opinions on a something they probably did themselves. This is not a college town, but we have the most recognized university in the country, maybe the world. That is something we forget. The excise police are a stated funded task force that do their best to try and regulate underage drinking. They will be back. Believe me I know! It is an experience that these students will have to live with.We all make mistakes!You learn from them! As for the neighbors, party on!

Posted by: H on Sep 23, 2008 at 09:54 PM
Wow. There are a lot of really jealous people in South Bend. Not all of these kids are well off and even if they were, who cares? Most of their parents worked very hard to provide a good life for these kids. Also, they do not just accept a student into ND because their parents are wealthy. These kids are very intelligent and have to be at the top of their class to go to ND or be exceptionally taleted at a sport. So they got caught doing something almost all have experienced in college- who cares. Oh wait, most of the posters here did not attend college. Is that why there are so many haters?

Posted by: KK Location: South Bend on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:21 PM
To Kim the 50 yr old professional college grad from South Bend--you are complaining about the 2 hours of noise you had to endure because of the sirens, dogs, and loud police officers? Wow. It's just a good thing that you don't have to endure a lifetime of heartache and anguish because a loved one was killed by a drunk driver. How selfish of you. Wake up! And for those of you saying, "No one was driving." That's right. And I'm glad they didn't get the chance to. If the police had gone to the house and let these kids off with a warning and then one of them killed someone, you would all be the same people ranting and raving about the cops not doing their job. Wouldn't you? You know you would.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Should have thrown the book at Yeatman in the first place. Notre Dame should be thankful this repeat offender did not kill anyone. This is not just a Notre Dame problem, sick and tired of these arrogent little you know whats thinking they are above the law because they have a full free ride. Driving on a sidewalk and this guy didn't spend anytime in jail. Who is really at fault here. Hey Charlie why not take a page from joe Pas book at Penn State and have these boys cleaning the stadium on Sundays. It hasn't affected their performance, they can actually play better than 500 ball.

Posted by: K Brewer Location: Lapaz, IN on Sep 23, 2008 at 07:56 PM
Bob: South Bend is my home, I was born and raised there, I'm there almost every day, and I live 15 minutes from it NOW. I have to say Bob, I don't expect the world to agree with me, but you just proved that true idiots throw insults when they've got nothing better to say.

Posted by: Parker Location: Posey on Sep 23, 2008 at 07:53 PM
"Stop Underage Drinking"?? Friends, underage drinking will never go out of style. At least these kids were not participating in actual lewd activities. They're new to college and simply trying new things. Give them a break!

Posted by: aly Location: mi on Sep 23, 2008 at 07:45 PM
It doesn't seem too funny that we can let a 300 pund football player drink a keg, especially one that is receiving a 50,000 scholarship and his grandfather just died of a heart attack. It is a call for counseling and help and to discern if these players have their head in playing for the Irish. Kyle McAlarney was sent home for a semester and this seems to be what is fair and needed right now for the student athletes. If I were Kyle, how fair would this be?

Posted by: Mike C. Location: Tampa, FL on Sep 23, 2008 at 06:42 PM
I'm curious as to whether there were many adults (people older than 21) at the party that were released without charges. Apparently, the girls on ND's lacrosse team rented or leased the property. Has the owner been charged with Maintaining A Common Nuisance, as well? If I were Notre Dame I would not permit my student-athletes to live off-campus, as it sppeard, compared to most University towns there is some hostility between the town people and ND students. It would be handled far differently in Florida or, say, Bloomington.

Posted by: lawerence Location: Elkhart on Sep 23, 2008 at 05:24 PM
Lets face it. Notre Dame is already trying to find away to get them off. Especially the football players.Remember its Mike Golic's son. I bet he is writing a big check right about now. I will not be surprise if they only get a slap on the hand.

Posted by: Quinn on Sep 23, 2008 at 04:18 PM
WOW!!! I think that all these players should be punish, it shouldn't matter who you are, what your name is, and what sport you play. Yes, its against the law but now a days everyone breaks the law. Who were they hurting??? why are we only hearing about the football boys?? That is 2 out of 37 ppl!! Everyone is going to be kids, and no matter what you tell them they are going to do what they want. They are in college and parents are not there to tell them from right from wrong. They are adults now, and can make there own choices. if they are willing to make those choices then they can pay for there own actions. So many people in high school are already drinking let alone doing drugs, and parents don't realize that. I hate turning on the news every night and all they talk about is all the bad stuff that happens in our community let alone in our nation. I think they can let this go, Coach Weis and University of Notre Dame will take care of this situation! GO IRISH!!!!

Posted by: Anon Location: Here on Sep 23, 2008 at 01:24 PM
Generalize much, K Brewer?

Posted by: Bob Location: South Bend on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:43 PM
hey k brewer... LOL... stuck up ND kids running around in Lapaz? your idiocy outdoes your unfounded hate. quite the accomplishment, i might say.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: USA on Sep 23, 2008 at 11:42 AM
It is the LAW. Thamk You St. Joe County Police, ISP, and Indiana State Excise Police. Yes too South BEND!

Posted by: Seriously Location: South Bend on Sep 23, 2008 at 10:57 AM
You've got to be kidding me. Folks out there are really surprised underage college students got caught drinking? Come on, now. I don't know the statistics, but I think it's fair to say most college students do some sort of binge drinking while they are in school. Dangerous, yes. Irresponsible, definitly. But, most of these students don't own cars and, while it's a bad decision to drink underage, would never drink and drive. Plenty of us drank underage while we were in college and just never got caught. I'm happy to hear a public nusaince was taken care of and I'm sure the neighbors will sleep better at night, but underage drinking is a global problem, not just confined to ND students. Are you really going to bash every single college student in the world who drinks underage? No. Just the ones next door are the problem, right?

Posted by: Anon Location: Here on Sep 23, 2008 at 09:02 AM
Who was driving? No one!

Posted by: abby Location: Granger on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:22 AM
Wow what a way to become famous. You all are idiots.. I agree with KK go out and drive drunk see what happens... one of my family member almost got killed by driving drunk. and they want to lower the drinking age..well if that happens we all be dead because smart people like you go out and have a keg party then drive.. it's about time you ND "glamour stars" got caught your nothing special.. i'm rich and i don't treat people like scum.. Life is more important than doing what you did.. thank God for the SBPD

Posted by: KK Location: SB on Sep 23, 2008 at 05:03 AM
You people who are all saying to 'let this go' are idiots. Why don't you go talk to someone who's life was affected by a drunk driver? Why don't you, just for a second, imagine that one of these kids got in a car and killed one of your family members?

Posted by: KK Location: SB on Sep 23, 2008 at 05:00 AM
To ItsCollege of South Bend. Yeah, they were breaking the law and got caught. So now they have to deal. GET OVER IT!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:50 PM
When I went to college in 1981, the drinking age in my state was 19. This might be hard for everyone here to believe, but I didn't drink until my 19th birthday! Maybe I'm the only one who did this, but I doubt it. I actually went to college to learn new things - geeky, perhaps; not an alcoholic or dead, absolutely!

Posted by: T Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Why is everyone bashing the police for doing their job? Under age drinking is illegal, period. If this party was not stopped and any of these students left drunk and drove and killed someone, or walked back to campus and walked out in front of you and you hit them would you want to be at fault?, I think not. Youmwould then be blaming the police because they did not break up the party. These students need to wake up, and if they were my kids i would not be paying 50,000 a year for them to party. they sure do set a bad example for the youngsters of today. After watching the news they asked do college kids go to school to get an education or drink and party, thanks for making a good impression on my children. They new they were in the wrong or they would not have tried to flee, resist, or hide anywhere they could. We need to thank the police, not criticize them, they may have saved anyone of us an accident waiting to happen. Thank you officers, keep up the good work.

Posted by: K Brewer Location: Lapaz, IN on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I'm so very sick of these stuck up ND kids running around in my town, treating the locals like $#!%, and acting like they own everything. I'm GLAD that they got busted... it's about time!

Posted by: Matt Location: Dallas on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I truly don't understand the venemous statements about students from the South bend residents. I graduated from ND 20 years ago and guess what? . . . we were doing the same thing then. Like it or not, parties are part of the college experience. I understand that they sometimes get out of control. But, come on excise police raids. How about just breaking up the boisterous parties? It seems to me that that's a solution that better fits the crime. Give me a break. Surely there are better ways for the state's money to be spent.

Posted by: RICHARD Location: SO. BEND on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:09 PM
IT'S UNFORTUNATE (THE STORY BEING SUCH BIG NEWS) BECAUSE MOST KIDS DO THE EXACT SAME THING. SOME GET CAUGHT, SOME DON'T. IF BUSTING THIS PARTY SAVES ONE LIFE (SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD) BY MAKING THESE YOUNG ADULTS AWARE OF THEIR ACTIONS, THAN THAT'S A GOOD THING. I THINK IT'S TIME FOR T-SHIRTS THAT SAY CATHOLICS -VS- CONVICTS TO STOP. EVERYONE NEEDS TO REALIZE THESE THINGS GO ON AT ALL UNIVERSITIES EVEN NOTRE DAME. I HAVE BEEN PRIVY TO THE NIGHT LIFE OF FORMER ATHLETES, ON AND OFF CAMPUS FROM ND. TRUST ME, KIDS WILL BE KIDS.

Posted by: Todd Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:05 PM
A lot of you people are uninformed idiots! The State EXCISE police did the bust. That is their job and a good part of why they even exist. SBPD was just there to support. They did not make the official arrest. We all did not drink to get drunk at parties in college. Some of us used better judgement. JD...ND does not soley support the economy of South Bend by far. They are a non for profit organization that cost you the tax payers millions upon millions of dollars in lost revenue a year, even though they take in hundreds of millions with ND, Holy Cross, the retirement centers, and the other college that don't pay a lick of tax. A majority of money spend on game day goes to franchise stores which send the money back out of state. Would South Bend take a hit if ND was not here, yes, but it would not cripple them. If a students parent lets them drink at home..that is their call...but not here.

Posted by: Michelle Location: Buchanan on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:04 PM
Honestly people, the fact of the matter is that underage drinking is against the law. These students broke the law, got caught, and should be punished appropriately by both the law and the University. Just because its something that happens all the time doesn't mean that its not illegal...how many times have you not gotten caught speeding? but cops will still give you a ticket if they see it. These people are out there representing Notre Dame and are doing a very poor job of it at that. When you are on a college sports team you are in the public eye constantly and should behave as such. This isn't Yeatman's first time getting caught with alcohol...you would have thought he would have learned from the first time!

Posted by: Robert Location: DC on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:39 PM
What a waste of taxpayers dollars! Real criminals are getting away with murder (literally) and Indiana is worried about college kids having a party. I wonder how many of the law enforcement involved drank underage? Probably most if not all. The state needs to spend their money on better things like social services.

Posted by: G Location: SB on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:08 PM
For the last time, it was the STATE POLICE AND EXCISE POLICE NOT THE SBPD that took charge of the investigation. The ISP are the ones. The local police had very little involvement.

Posted by: Scott Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:06 PM
Bottom line it is illegal so I am glad to see this happen. You Domers think you can get away with anything because of Mom and Dads money. GOOD

Posted by: ItsCollege Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:47 PM
Hats off to South Bend's finest in the raiding of this party and some off campus bars this weekend. Your valiant efforts led to the arrest of many underage drinkers who, of course, represent the decay of our society. Don't even worry about the countless robberies and assaults that are occurring throughout the city of South Bend (many being committed against Notre Dame students) as these are minor crimes compared to underage drinking! To the taxpayers of South Bend: aren't you glad your tax dollars are being put to great use? The "Stop Underage Drinking" Campaign is indeed a much important initiative than a "Stop Violence" or "Stop Robbery" Campaign. For the townies reading this who aren't too sharp, what I just wrote is something we call satire. That means I'm being sarcastic. Stop complaining about ND students drinking. This is college, and no matter what you say or what any cops do, ND students will continue to have fun and drink underage. GET OVER IT!

Posted by: X ND Athlete Class of 08 Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:44 PM
To emphasize a little further, the two football players probably had all their school work done, and were clearly looking to have a good time that night with some other student athletes. I don't see anything wrong with this situation. They probably even talked about staying together so they don't make the headlines the next morning. Golic wasn't even going to see a play this year, who can really blame him for wanting to have some fun "in college". Football suffered enough last year with their season, especially since it appears that they are on their way back towards what they were with Brady. I honestly just feel that they should have just been let out of this one. If those two players aren't there, then this story isn't making headlines. And hey, these guys are in college let them have some fun, your only in college once... Right dad? And on a side-note, it takes a full keg to give a 300 lb. football player a buzz. Just leave it be.

Posted by: crash Location: elkhat on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:37 PM
(We all drink in college) Ask the South Bend Cops... Thay drive there Cops cars Have fun kids...........

Posted by: really? Location: SB on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:25 PM
I do not know how this turned into a board to repeal the drinking age or why. Nor do I know why these students are being bashed this hard. They screwed up they have been arrested and will have their day in court like everyone else. Sbpd had avery minor role in this and none of their manpower was pulled from the street just for this. As for the bashing into the house with no warrant there was plenty of probable cause by the 40 or so people in the backyard, loud music and the keg and beercans thrown in the neighbors yards. You are more likely to be killed in this county by a drunk driver than a banger with an ak, but now if you can get the burglars, rapists and murderers wear signs and or advertise their intent so their civil rights are not violated I am positive that the police could prevent these more serios crimes. We have laws that these young adults broke and luckily for us a constitution. The students screwed up and the police do their job. Lets move on

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:58 PM
All the more reason to lower the drinking age to 18.

Posted by: X ND Athlete class of 08' Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:51 PM
Here's the deal. Being a student athlete from last years graduated class, I think its fair to say that these athletes were in the wrong place at the wrong time. the concept of letting your team down should not even apply here. On every team there are going to be players that can drink and still perform and those who can't. And at the age of 18 i feel you should already be old enough to judge your own performance situation. What people don't consider is that some of the freshman and sophomores look up to the upper-classes and want to establish some level of camaraderie as a team. Therefore when the legal players have their first beers which is clearly not a reality, are the underclassman just going to sit there and drink milk and deal with the peer-pressure from their best friends. Its not like they are able to go find new friends they're teammates. Drinking happens everywhere that's the reality these days so have fun looking back to your own good old days when the drinking age was 18!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:45 PM
This is a situation which every college campus deals with. Hence why many college presidents are trying to lower the drinking age. The students who were arrested does not show any lack of committment to any of their respective teams. Notre Dame as been dealing with this issue for a lot longer then the Weis has been a head coach this is again nothing new. Think back to when Rick Meyer was the QB with Holts. He was arrested for underage. Many years ago the basketball program dealt with Troy Murphy being arrested for minor consumption. Charlie nor any other coach will have the final say as to whether or not anyone goes home. They do not have any power to remove any student from the university, just take away their scholarship.

Posted by: Wakarusa Resident Location: Wakarusa on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:28 PM
I think that all the student-athletes at Notre Dame should be delt with severely and swiftly. How many young adults/athletes are looking up to these Notre Dame players as role models. They have come into this community to study and play sports, football as well as all the others. It's important that the message given to our young kids is that when the law is broken, consequences are given. To all the other people who have commented with the response "who cares, let them have fun and play football". You can make a comment like that when you are trying to raise a law abiding, healthy and smart thirteen year old boy who watches the game and the individuals who play it, otherwise think before you speak!

Posted by: David Location: Niles on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:16 PM
These young people have all the rights and responsibilites of an adult at 18,including dying for their country these young men and women should be left alone and our drinking laws should be changed to 18.

Posted by: Karin Location: Mishawaka on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:12 PM
Yes they are College students but if you're considered and athlete and get a scholarship then you should not be allowed to drink. One of the players already has a DUI and I don't think he should be allowed to stay on the team or at the University . Alot of kids would dream about a scholarship at ND and the ones arrested last night obviously think it's no big deal.These guys are not athletes or role models.If you get caught drunk at basic training or the Police academy-you're out. Why should these kids get treated any different? If you want to be an athlete so bad,don't drink. You can have fun without alcohol. Most people act dumb with alcohol anyways. Replace those guys and girls with kids who make the right choices in life. Those college students could've killed your child last night if the arrests wouldn't have been made.

Posted by: Mary Location: Middlebury on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:12 PM
How is this football player still eligible after having a DUI. My profession is a high school teacher. If I had that charge on my record I would be finding another job. There must be a code of ethics that these ND athletes are supposed to follow. The violations need to be more than just a few weeks off. (ie: spring training)

Posted by: Laszlo on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:10 PM
If these brats don't have the sense to party within bounds, let them all get punished to the max.Let Mommy and Daddy give ND another large donation. String 'em up!

Posted by: Kim Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:08 PM
I am a 50 yr old professional college grad who was sleeping in an upstairs room with windows wide open. I was not bothered at all by any party. What woke us up was the overkill and drama used by the SBDP. Sirens blaring at 2:00 in the morning. K-9 dogs barking for 2 hrs in the cars. Loud obnoxious bellowing by The large burly SBPD police officer. Telling someone to shut the F up bit. When you grow up and get a real job, and your mommies and daddies...Who did he think he was.We heard the whole thing. For two solid hours I put up with them. There is definitely 2 sides to this story (and you have not heard the other side)If this is the best South Bend has to offer, go ahead and cut the SBPD jobs. I question who was watching the streets while this nonsense was taking place. 2 county vans, 1 ISP car ND Police, 5 SBP olice cars and more coming all the time.I certainly hope someone videotaped this so the general public can see the other side of this. There sure was one!!

Posted by: Nicole Location: Stevensville on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:05 PM
Sorry this is a sore spot for us right now as we just lost a dear loved one due to alcohol, minors driving under the influence. When will these kids learn that alcohol is not the only way to have fun and can cause serious consequences including death weather it be from driving drunk or alcohol poisoning and binge drinking. Please wake up kids, life is too short... don't try to make it shorter!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Wow. College kids drinking at a party. What a story!! When did cops become such losers? Probably has to do with the fact these kids pay more per year to go to college than these Gestapo make.

Posted by: raggedy Location: south bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:39 PM
Ok here we go these boys and girls will be punished. This is a chance for all you neighborhood assoc presidents to take the bull by the reins, Gather them all together and have them clean up the neighborhoods especially the ones they destroy and to help out the elderly with home improvemnet. Roofs, gutters need to be replaced painting needs to be done, basements and garages need to be cleaned out leaves will need to be raked there is our labor for free

Posted by: Thomas G. Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:38 PM
About time they actually arrest these students. Fines weren't getting through their arrogant skulls.

Posted by: Steve on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Surely all this has been done to attract publicity? All those police and all those arrests, maybe the national guard should've been called out, along with the 7th cavalry. 20 year olds being charged with minor consuming, for maybe holding a can of beer? Should an 18 year old in the army be charged with being a minor in charge of a rifle? Most free countries have a legal age of 18, some even younger, yet in some parts of the USA perfectly responsible adults are turned into criminals for having a mouthful of beer. Where does this assumption come from that as soon as anyone has a beer, they turn into a homicidal maniac behind a wheel? Yes, crack down on drunken disorder, DUI's and stop children from drinking, but this bust smacks of being political. Couldn't a squad car have been dispatched and placed this household on a warning of future conduct? And also much earlier if they were creating trouble, thereby freeing other officers onto more serious crimes. Elliot Ness and the Untouchables?

Posted by: Chuck on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:27 PM
Say It isn't so. Students that go to that fine morally upstanding Catholic Institution drinking alcohol. Those must have been IUSB or IVY Tech students. We know that no one that goes to Notre Dame ever breaks the law. Note the sarcasm.....

Posted by: OTIS Location: Mayberry on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:22 PM
I like this blog thing. It shows how many stupid people live all around us!!!

Posted by: tom Location: granger on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:15 PM
go police man let the murders go and go after the underage drinking. thats preety dumb. go police the real criminals

Posted by: Farmer Frank Location: Rural Marshall County on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Accountability, plain and simple. If you want to drink, you need to be an adult. Nothing wrong with publishing names if they are involved. Minor consuming alcohol isnt the end of the world, but being caught will make them and others responsible for future actions if they want to graduate or become a positive force in society. Hopefully parents will take control if possible, and help these kids back to accomplishing their goals......learning and becoming contributors to society.......It doesnt matter if its ND or IU or bethel.....we all are accountable for our actions.........

Posted by: Amber Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:42 PM
I feel so bad for all of them. This is just a normal part of the college experience. Let the kids be kids. It's too bad they don't have a common place/neighborhood to have parties like normal college campuses.

Posted by: Erin Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Dave you are stupid. These students weren't drinking in the comfort of their own home. They were at someone elses home, which means they probably drove there. They are still minors and are not ALLOWED to have alchohol in ANY home. Then after consuming the alchohol I would assume they would be driving back to where they lived.. thats call DUI ! We will make sure the party is on your front porch next time, and you can be responsible for all the underage drinking and DUI's.

Posted by: Dawn Location: Michigan on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:13 PM
If can say you didn't drink in college, that's a miracle and more power to you. However, the real issue is the drinking with intent to drive drunk. Judgment is impaired with drinking. While a lot of adults still show bad judgment, kids are more likely to show bad judgment because of their lack of experience. You get a buzz and it literally goes to your head. Two kids, underage, hit a tree down the street by me last week and were killed because of underage drinking and driving. I could care less if the kids in this story are from Notre Dame. The problem is the threat to others and themselves when they get behind a wheel after they've been drinking. The police did the right thing. It kept a potential tragedy from happening, and I think that is what we all need to keep in mind. I don't think getting kicked off a team is the answer. Community service and a warning should suffice, they are already humiliated. (The humane society needs volunteers!)

Posted by: Ryan Location: massachusetts on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:02 PM
"College" Athletes. Lets keep in these kids are in college and not athletic robots. I can understand having an alcohol policy during the season, but most college teams have a mutual agreement where during the week no alcohol is allowed but after a saturday night game why not be a "College" kid. Sunday practices are designed to "get in a good sweat" and prepare for tuesdays practice against that weeks opponent. You talk about the "Ara" era and how no drinking was allowed. well they couldn't even drink water during practice because it was a sign of weakness.. lets get real people its 2008.

Posted by: Erin Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:49 PM
WNDU, I think publishing the names of all the students or none of them is appropriate. At least publish all of the athletes' names, not just those on the football team. How ridiculous that because these students are involved in football, they are singled out for public humiliation. Our local media would be well served by a taste of their own medicine. I hope they can be held up for public trial sometime soon. You need stories? In our county/city we have violent crime, judges who are easy on career criminals, a failing economy, a mayor who wants to raise our taxes after irresponsibly spending our money on properties of campaign donors and this is the story you follow (along with hours of self-congratulatory weather talk)??? What happened to quality ideas and in-depth reporting?

Posted by: Randy Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:38 PM
This is common news on college campuses, so what; get on with more important issues, economy, stock market...

Posted by: Mike Location: Mishawaka on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:36 PM
If Notre Dame was not involved,it would not be of importance. I feel a yawn coming on!

Posted by: Kevin Location: South bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:24 PM
If they are "only students", treat them as such. Living off of campus is a perk. If you are caught drinking, you must live on campus or choose a new school.

Posted by: SALLY Location: SOUTH BEND on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:19 PM
I can't believe all the nasty cracks about the police on this site; if this party was being held next to your house I bet you would be glad they showed up. Who cares who they are; they were underage and they were drinking, period.

Posted by: Teri Location: Indiana on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:18 PM
I agree with MP!What this all boils down to is this:Notre Dame is no different than any other school,college,institution,etc.Humans attend this university and where humans are involved,trouble follows!Notre Dame,you are dealing with teens!What gives you the impression,you are exempt from any wrong- doings? Unfortunately,you are not "holier than thou"!

Posted by: Cliff Saxon Location: Altoona, AL on Sep 22, 2008 at 02:12 PM
Theyr'e just a bunch of slobs and it shows, Golic's just like his dad, Nutri-System Didn't Help! GO BOILERMAKERS!!!!!STOMP THE SLOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:49 PM
These kids come in bars with no id, and are rude when told they can't be served. The parents also try to 'order' drinks for them, and are rude when told they can't have it for the 'minors' Attitude stems from the parents..and the students have the attitude they are invincible...

Posted by: STAN Location: ELKHART on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:49 PM
CAN EITHER ONE OF THEM BLOCK.

Posted by: Kat on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:45 PM
"Performance on the field reflects the lack of self discipline these 'football players' demonstrated, the little things are showing." You're kidding, right, Poochie? I have news for you. Football players drink beer. They always have, even during National Championship seasons when they would crowd into bars on "dollar drink special" night and I'd serve them. Steve Beuerlien still owes me a new jacket after dumping his strawberry margarita down my back, and Lou's '88 National Championship QB was a frequent customer at the local hot spots. Paul Hornung was quite the party boy, as well, or have you forgotten? It's a good thing that all the whining locals don't live in Bloomington. They arrested 97 students there from IU and Ball State, Excise called it the most disgraceful display of drunken behavior they'd ever seen. But, yeah, ND students cause soooooo much trouble, don't they? Good thing this isn't Florida or USC where their players get caught with guns and are arrested for assault.

Posted by: steve Location: goshen on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:43 PM
IF THIS HAD HAPPEN ANY WHERE ELSE THIS WOULD NOT BE A BIG THING JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE ND PLAYERS IT WILL GET BLOWEN WAY OUT OF THE SKY [BOYS WILL BE BOYS]BEFORE YOU JUDGE LOOK BACK ON YOUR TEEN AND YOUNG ADULT YEARS.

Posted by: Kathy on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:29 PM
This country needs to chose at what age you become responsible. At eighteen you can go to war and kill, but can't drink. If studies show 21 is best to have the sense of making wiser decisions when drinking, then being an adult should be the age of 21. As a parent I feel our society has babied our youth to where we have handicapped them into a slower progression of maturity. I would be happy to see the age risen for driving and entry into miltary also marriage unless parent concent.

Posted by: Mayor of Granger Location: Granger on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Hey Dave from New York...Your an idiot. I realize there are no pictures for you to look at and your reading is not about first grade, but the SBPD was not involved. I will make this a little easier COUNTY, STATE, and EXCISE! South Bend refused to help because they are way to busy with real crime on a Sat. night.

Posted by: JR Location: SB on Sep 22, 2008 at 01:03 PM
It is a shame that these situation appears to be approaching a duke-durham like relationship. I understand the complaints from both sides. The year round residents and the student body. What I see as comletely unfounded is the pure animosity directed toward the school and the student body. The school supports the entire towns economy, and you frankly couldnt ask for, in general, a more polite, harder working and humble student body. The issue is there is no college student neighborhood that exists in many other college towns. Or, the reltionship that exists between locals and student body is long standing enough that the towns people know what they are getting into when they move there. These kind of events only serve to polarize the situation. In a situation like this, the job of the officers should be to ensure that everyone is safe and not driving, and that the students in charge are responsible for reparing any damages. Notre dame is the strictest school on drinking nationally

Posted by: JoC Location: Mishawaka on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I agree, let them, drink, their parents probably let them at home, so let them let off some steam, let them wander aimlessly in the streets and get hit, let them wander down by the river and fall in, hey one DUI isn't enough, maybe this time he would have hit somebody. Maybe he would have hit one of these people or their family member on here saying let them drink. Or maybe one of the other partiers could have killed someone driving drunk. Indiana law is the law here, you knew it when your parents brought you here. I agree about Weiss losing control, maybe a few haircuts and shaves will at least make the team look respectable.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:24 PM
All of you people need to relax with what you are saying. None of you were there, and you don't have any idea about the circumstances in which the cops handled the situation..oh and the party had been long over by the way. College kids drinking! Wow..what a foreign concept. Arresting 37 people and actually taking them to jail?! The state police have MUCH more they need to worry about around this area than taking a crow bar to the doors of a college party. Seems to me like they just need the bail money.

Posted by: joe on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:21 PM
to anonymous at 9:10a i worked in the er at st joe for 22 years. when james roemer was dean of students we called him for every drunk nd student that came in and he came down to escort them back to campus. the police had warned through the newspaper and tv that they would be out this past weekend for loud party's. this was no big suprise. they need to face the music, learn from it and move. it's too bad that will yeatman appears to have the most to lose.

Posted by: Donny Location: New York on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Ambrose Wooden never drank, I was with him every day.

Posted by: South Bend resident Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:14 PM
This goes on more often then you think. This only made the news because Notre Dame players were involved. I believe the drinking age should be lowered to 18. You are considered an adult by that age and most people are out there living on their own, fighting in wars, ect. Makes no sense that at 18 you can vote, live on your own, go to war, but you just can't drink.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:36 AM
I wonder how many 1st string football players were there and will slide under the radar.

Posted by: Megan Location: SB on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:31 AM
It is only a story because they are Notre Dame students. I was busted in high school but it didn't make any headlines. Who cares, let them have fun and play some football. Go IRISH!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Whether or not you like the drinking age law, it is still a law. The athletes who think drinking is more important than their team are letting their teammates down. They know the law and must abide by it too. For those who think drinking on campus for all ages is the answer, I might have agreed until I heard a 21-year-old student tell me that there were ONLY "1 or 2 ambulances" that came to campus on weekends due to the heavy drinking causing a student to pass out and not wake up. One ambulance coming to campus per year is one too many!

Posted by: Margaret Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM
I agree-why weren't the other underage drinkers' names and pics plastered over the air waves. Is it because Golic's dad works for ESPN and is a Domer and the other one was already in trouble this year with a DUI? What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Posted by: poochie Location: Lafayette, IN on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:24 AM
All I can say is that the performance on the field reflects the lack of self discipline these "football players" demonstrated, the little things are showing. Going back to the "Olden Days", glory days of Ara, any "drinking" during the season was grounds for automatic dismisal from the team. Is Charlie afraid to crack the whip with these glory boys??? Any drinking and wild partying during the season is out!!! These boys have an opportunity of a lifetime!!! I thought ND football players were supposed to be a "Notch Above" the rest of the student body. They certainly are not demonstrating it!!! Get with it men, show the world you are the best; not just a bunch of "rag muffins" you are acting like!!!

Posted by: hs Location: south bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Would it be such a big story if ND students weren't involved? They are normal kids like anyone elses and the punishment should fit the crime. 21 is the legal drinking age...hum do you think since they go to ND that they have enough education to know this. Not a ND fan and frankly get sick of them being treated like they are gods.

Posted by: Anna Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:18 AM
It is time to repeal the drinking age. Statistics have proven that not only has it not improved drunk driving statistics it has instead increased incidents of "binge" drinking and served to criminalize a portion of the population for a legal act based on age. In other countries where teens are brought up drinking responsibly around other adults less issues prevail. The problem is once everyone turns 21 they do not care about the issue any longer and anyone under 21 is not taken seriously. I am well over 21, but when I read the statistics it makes me wonder why we waste yet more limited resources on this nonsense.

Posted by: Dave Location: New York on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM
The South Bend Police are out of control. They have all kinds of theft and drug dealers scattered throughout South Bend and they spend the majority of their time making sure the students are not drinking in the comfort of their own homes. It is ridiculous.

Posted by: hillman Location: south bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:52 AM
All you people that have an opinion on underage drinking should try living by these off campus partiers. They are loud, messy, and if you work you cannot sleep when it is necessary. You say move why we live here year around pay taxes, go to work and try to be very good citizens. Send them home to Mom and Dad let them deal with it and if necessary put them in a small community college it would be cheaper and since they are all babied at home then their folks could make them even more stupid adults then they already are. SEND THEM HOME CHARLIE

Posted by: KT Location: Michiana on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Thank God they weren't caught drinking while trying to stab other students with a needle! Half of you on here would have them serving a life sentence!

Posted by: John Location: Fort Wayne on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Overall it seems like nobody cares?? Next story please!!!

Posted by: Dave Location: Elkhart on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Where is the name of the other kids who broke the law? Why single just 2 out? Be responsible and post all the names and not just two because they happen to be part of the football team. Be fair in reporting, and report the whole story, and not just part of it.

Posted by: Heather Location: SB on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Oh good lord! They are college students....any of us on this board, that went to college, probably did the same thing. Heck maybe some of us when we were in High School. I'm not saying it's right, just probably to be expected. And just because it was a bunch of student athletes doesn't mean they should be held to a higher standard. Notre Dame students are light weights compared to IU Bloomington students. And I agree with the other person that said, the County police figured out that they will pay their fines. Give me a break, aren't there real criminals that need to be caught?

Posted by: Bobbie Location: SouthBend on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:21 AM
The biggest punishment is facing their parents.....especially if they are paying for the education to go to Notre Dame.

Posted by: Irish Fan RH Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Stop blaming the police -they did their job,Stop blaming the university,These are 18.19 and 20 year old kids. They will make mistakes we all did. They were arrested and they will be punished.Not just the 2 football players but all 37 of them. I get tired of all the Notre Dame haters out there that can't wait for things like this to bash them. Be thankful we have such a great asset to our community.As for as the comments on the police these are just stupid comments that make no sense. Support them and let them do their job.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM
The fuss is because ND students have been getting away with this behavior for year!! How often does an ND official show up in the hospital ERs to pick up their drunk students. Most universities don't offer the same privelage to their busted students. They face the law like everyone else and now so will ND students. HA!

Posted by: Charlie Location: Row 58 ND stadium on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:06 AM
I don't know about drinking in the dorms, but when I was on campus before the ND-Michigan game two weeks ago there were signs saying no open alcohol containers were allowed on campus. I'd be very surprised if the University would allow underage drinking on campus, too.

Posted by: Steve Location: Niles on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:49 AM
Don't you think there are bigger problems in St. Joe county for the police focus on?

Posted by: M Location: V on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Looks like the blitz is working. All of the kool-aid is flying off the shelves in Mishawaka for next weekend's activities. Might as well just call it a police fundraiser.

Posted by: Kat on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Kathy, Notre Dame DOES NOT allow drinking in the dorms and that is part of the problem. When they outlawed alcohol on campus (no matter what your age), the students had to take their partying off campus. The result? More drunk students in neighborhoods (and on the street and behind the wheel) and more overkill kegger busts like this one. Why did they waste this much manpower, including tracking dogs, on a beer party? While they were busy threatening students and barging into the home without a warrant, someone else got shot in South Bend on the same night. I certainly hope the victim bled patiently and that the person who did it escaped in time. God help us if the police infringed on the shooter's rights. Heck, the kids ticketed for underage drinking at this party will probably get harsher sentences in St. Joe County courts than whoever pulled the trigger and shot another human being on Saturday night.

Posted by: Joe Location: Mishawaka on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23 AM
Why not just lower the drinking age to 16....that way high schoolers can blow off steam too...

Posted by: PJ Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:13 AM
REMEMBER: Charlie said he does not condone underage drinking when the pictures appeared on the internet. In addition, several very visible players have been seen in bars who are underage and have not been caught. These got caught and should pay. If you play the underage game you have to accept what could happen to you. If one young man got busted people around here would be livid

Posted by: City Employee Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:11 AM
"Former Irish great Mike Golic . . ." Mike Golic was a middle of the road player who made a name for himself after his playing days were over as a disgustingly obese blowhard gasbag who thinks it's funny to see how many doughnuts he can shove into his big fat mouth. He's a slob.

Posted by: Proud SBPD on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:10 AM
It's so sad to watch you brain trusts blaming everyone other than the students for this problem. These under age people knew the law and BROKE it. It may not be the most severe crime on the books, but it was still a crime. Excise police are there to enforce these drinking laws like it or not. The "we've all done it before" line is sad. Guess if you get popped for DUI you can say "we've all done it before." This is a sad time when the cops doing their jobs are the ones who are wrong and not the students with a lack of common sense.

Posted by: ND Fan Location: SBI on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:07 AM
The drinking age needs to be changed. These students are going to punished like adults for something that adults can legal do. Either your a minor until your 21 or you can drink at 18 which is it?

Posted by: BOB Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:04 AM
GO BEARS!!!

Posted by: Matt Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:56 AM
Wake up people, three words: IT'S THE LAW!

Posted by: Joe Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Ah c'mon like this is something new it happens every year.I think they should be suspended for the season it's not like they contribute much anyways.

Posted by: Paddy Location: Atlanta on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:21 AM
They're Irish, they're supposed to drink

Posted by: Earl Marzean Location: Plymouth on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:11 AM
My comment on the Notre Dame Student Weekend Raid (DRINKING) is as follows; If there is one thing that i am certain of, that, never, in my lifetime, will i be able to understand, how our Government sets the standards, that specify, that a young person of 18 is declared, of legal age to enlist in the militart, or even be drafted, if necassary, and go off to war, and do, whatever there pupose, is to do, but 'yet', they are not old enough to drink a can of beer. (Note, not all states)

Posted by: JIm Location: St. Joseph on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:08 AM
More fun reading this than watching the ND highlight reel. Oh yea, there wasn't any highlights. Stop defending the little brats. They broke the law drowning their sorrows, again.

Posted by: Irish Location: Goshen on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:54 AM
To blame the head coach is a little brash. Is he suppose to hold their hand where ever they go? The FB team has around 90 kids the basketball has team has 12 and hockey maybe 20 some. There are just a few more kids here to "control" on the FB team. I'm sure Coach Weis has never mentioned to his players about good choices vs. bad choices. Blame someone else like maybe the students themselves since they are considered adults now.

Posted by: Joe Location: Mishawaka on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:53 AM
These guys are 19 or 20... Kids blowing off steam... Old enough to die for your country, but not old enough to have a beer. I think they should be disciplined as the DID knowingly break the rules... but to suspend them for an entire season would be too severe... They should be suspended maybe two games. What about the NON-Athlete students that were arrested? How will they be equally reprimanded? I just hope the University doesn't go overboard on its punishment.

Posted by: Kathy Location: Goshen on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:39 AM
Our understanding is that Notre Dame allows drinking in dorms no matter what your age, so why should we be surprised with students drinking underage off campus? Maybe it is time for the officers to raid some dorms?

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:34 AM
Charlie should ask them one question. What the heck were you celebrating? We lost today.

Posted by: eric Location: south bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:32 AM
who didnt do this in college? lower the drinking age to 18.

Posted by: terry Location: mishawaka on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:06 AM
You people are all a bunch of cry babies. You know you all did the same crap when you were young. Most of you that grew up in the 70's did 10 times worse. Yes it is illegal to have a beer, but before real. If they were not causing trouble then leave them alone. What about the kids in high school doing it there is no story about them.

Posted by: BG Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:00 AM
College students having fun, sure who didn't.......College students at one of the highest touted institutions of acadamia in the land........come on you moron's at least have the common sense not to put up a big sign and say here we are, come and get us.......by partying in a residential neighborhood and ignoring previous requests to quiet things down, you only have insulted those people who live in this community year round. Stupidity and arrogance go hand in hand........41 bottles of beer on the wall, 41 bottles of beer, you take one down pass it around.....hey were did Clausen go?

Posted by: Jackie Location: Syracuse, IN on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:57 AM
I feel anyone who was drinking and underaged should be kicked off the teams. They know they did wrong, its not like they didn't know what they were doing wasn't against the law. They are all old enough to know right from wrong . They need to pay the price. The one guy already has a DUI charge and now this. This isn't teaching the younger generations anything about drinking and the consequences of their actions about drinking if you just give them a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: Abby Location: South Bend on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:46 AM
How about a crack down on gangbangers and drive bys? Or maybe violent crimes that plague this area in general. No that is to hard lets go pick on the kids that are actually doing something with their lives and then we can exploit them on the news. Good job SB Police and WNDU. Maybe next weekend you can pick on some St Marys kids or Holy Cross and exploit them on the news. Don't pat yourselves to hard on the backs guys.

Posted by: GO IRISH on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:44 AM
I am tired of everyone making such a big deal that the students involved are associated with Notre Dame. Would there be such a fuss if the students involved were from IUSB or IvyTech? Of course not. People, we need to remember that the ND students are still just that, 18, 19, and 20 year old students living the typical college life. Don't tell me any of you never drank before 21. Maybe if the drinking age was lowered to 18 the police could spend their time with getting "real" criminals off the streets. After all, at 18 you can decide who is going to be the leader of our country and you can go over to Iraq and witness things no one should ever see. I never understood why we say that you are a legal adult at 18 if you still have to wait until 21 to drink. I guess with everything you have to read the fine print.

Posted by: wondering? on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:32 AM
Was it before the game that they were drinking? Just wondering as I watched the game and ND played like they were drunk.....

Posted by: TJ Location: SB on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:08 AM
I think you should publish all the names of the students arrested. Plus why where the police there? was there a fight? loud music?. If it was just because of underage drinking, heck I think 90% of us had a drink before 21. as long as nobody was leaving drunk or fights what the heck. I think I would rather have the police deal with the drug dealers on my corner than worry about some snot nose underage kids drinking inside of a house, that are probably allready planning for the next party that there parents are paying for.

Posted by: Sissie on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:59 AM
A little more tarnish on the golden dome!!! Gee, I guess they are human.

Posted by: Steve Location: Elkhart on Sep 22, 2008 at 04:03 AM
I am not surprised. Those football players think they are above the law and better than everyone else - at least this town thinks they are. KICK THEM OFF THE TEAM!! THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!!

Posted by: Lisa Location: Granger on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:23 AM
Being a hugh ND fan it hurts when this type of news is heard. Kids will be kids. But you have a full ride to a great education, why do you want to mess up. Going to ND is high profile. I'm sure this goes on at other schools but its a big deal since we are in the south ben area.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:18 AM
I am not a “Domer” but I know that there are bigger fish to fry in South Bend when it comes to crime. There is no excuse for underage drinking and the way to celebrate a loss is not to go out and drink. As a taxpayer I would rather see the police go after the real criminals. I am sure that there are floods of calls about drunk kids and those are easy calls to answer. What I want to know is what happens when real calls of crime are made, are they answered as fast if at all? Drugs, robberies, and gangs are taking over this city as far as I can tell, the population is getting rougher with every vacant house. I would take a drunk student of privilege as my neighbor over a drug dealer any day.

Posted by: mike greenberg Location: bristol CT on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:12 AM
hey golic? yesss greeny....how does my kid get to play as a freshman? well golic not get caught by the excise police at a party! Yeatman is worthless too...caught 1 pass in 2 years..congrats

Posted by: friend of the law Location: Elkhart on Sep 21, 2008 at 11:59 PM
These are special law enforcement details and are not taking patrol officers away from their normal work. Also, if you read carefully you'll notice that it did not list ND police as being involved with the raid. More than likely they are the ones giving special treatment to ND athletes and making sure their priviledged lives remain untanted. Any one who says that it’s not the job of these officers to be raiding a college party should realize that as soon as these athletes/ND students consumed alcohol under age they became criminals and when you get CAUGHT breaking the law there are consequences.

Posted by: Jay Location: SB on Sep 21, 2008 at 11:02 PM
These kids work harder than most adults five days a week, everyone needs to let loose somehow. Besides, they're in college, they work hard and they play hard. That's how it is, and that's how it always will be. Notre Dame is arguably the best, maybe only thing that happened to this city...#1 employer in the county, not to mention the hundreds of dollars in revenue it attracts to the area. Compared to other campuses and underage drinking, ND isn't bad at all. Imagine if IU were here, and compare the parties ND kids throw to what you see in Bloomington. Break up the party if it's a disturbance...writing tickets is only a cop-out for funding these worthless programs. Put some money in to the educational system in South Bend and fund programs that keep kids in school, so they're not jumping ND students in the streets. Who knows, maybe the students could teach the local government the right way to balance a budget.

Posted by: Larry Location: SB on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Did some of you even bother to read the darn story. South Bend Police had absolutely NOTHING to do with this. It was the County and State Police. And BEN from Mishawaka.."the football players will get off due to our wonderful SBPD".. Were you drinking when you typed this or did you not read the players were ARRESTED and went to jail? And see my 1st few sentences on clarification of what agencies were involved.

Posted by: BP Location: SB on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Underage drinking? No way! And this is news?

Posted by: Rabid Irish Fan Location: Standing Tall on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:46 PM
What I wonder is this, drinking is usually associated with two things. Celebration, or, to drown sorrow. They had nothing to celebrate after that beating thier team took. This turn of events is unfortunate. It makes me question how much Yeatman wants to be on the team. He has had one chance, blew it. Got a second chance, blew it again. Golic? I hope that was a case of prehaps being around a guy prone to having a bit of fun. Now, it was still his choice, he could have said no. I think he needs to have a fair punishment and be given a chance when able to show he is cleaned up. This team should have been tight before the MSU game began. They looked like the SDSU game, just a little worse and for longer. I give all credit to MSU, good team, good luck. I love this team, top to bottom. We have a great core of talent that are just sophs. Look at the freshman sitting in wait, absorbing the pro style offense. Coach Weis needs to get this team geared up and ready to mash EVERY GAME!BEAT PURDUE!

Posted by: Me Location: South Bend on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Was Charlies favorite Jimmy there? He was caught last year and nothing happened, and since he turned 21 at midnight, maybe he bought it for them, we wish then Evan would get another chance.

Posted by: MP Location: Granger on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Maybe the players should drink before the game..... may be an improvement.

Posted by: Timbo Location: SBI on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:21 PM
It's about time these kids learn that there are more important things in life than drinking, learn to have fun w/o the drinking. Not worth suspensions is it?

Posted by: Angry Location: S.B. on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:10 PM
wow, 37 aressted and only 2 football players... I want to know the other 35 kids names... they broke the same law... embarras them as well. how about an INS raid... they are breaking the law too... never hear about any of those, i guess thats not hot news. ND football players having a few drinks... Now thats news we needed to hear about.

Posted by: Slade Location: Mishawaka on Sep 21, 2008 at 10:06 PM
It seems like they just don't ever learn..just stupid. I know, you are saying did you ever drink when you were underage? YES, and I did it when I turned 18 at the enlisted mens club at the Naval base in Washington DC. All sailors could drink beer at the club on base as long as they were 18 and older. No hard stuff just beer. Also in Wash. DC you could drink at the bars at 18 but only beer. College students want to be considered an adult but yet they don't want to obey the law. Student athletes who break the law should be punished as adults. Its stupid to risk your scholarship on something this stupid.

Posted by: Jay Jay Location: SB, IN on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:59 PM
People trying to draw some sort of parallels between the ND loss and the students drinking are fools. When I went to IU, the basketball players generally didn't drink but that wasn't always the case. These guys, besides being ND football players, are young guys, and we all know that college days aren't our best years in terms of amazing decision making skills. Lay off just a notch.

Posted by: Student on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:50 PM
While it is unfortunate that so many students were arrested, it is not uncommon. Many more get by without consequence.

Posted by: JC Location: Osceola on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:42 PM
A few years ago a Notre Dame student was killed by a drunk driver, a drunk student drowned in the river and the South Bend and Notre Dame Community was outraged, which they should have been. Now these same people are saying "let the kids party and have fun, they're kids". How many more innocent people need to be killed by drunk drivers or die before people realize that allowing underage kids to "be kids" needs to be stopped. Good job Excise and SBPD. Death by DUI IS a major crime. Walk a few steps in a police officers shoes before any of you knock our police dept..

Posted by: here in Location: south bend on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:35 PM
can't wait to watch mike and mike in the morning:)

Posted by: H on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:49 PM
Wow. I guess the city is headed in a different direction now- "crack down" on underage drinking because these kids will pay their fines instead of going after real criminals who do not. I guess this is one way to generate revenue to help balance the budget. Forget about the drugs, shootings, and gang activity because that is only costing the city money, and go after those pesky underage drinkers!

Posted by: aj Location: sb on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:47 PM
Callin all ya all it's a sabotage... Underage drinking around a major college university, no way... ND kids should've been to smart to get caught doing no no's like that. Bad kids! I hope thier parents take away all of thier allowances.

Posted by: Will Location: SB on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:46 PM
I know the bad loss to MSU hurt, but geeze, use your heads!

Posted by: Ben Location: Mishawaka on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:42 PM
Well as we know, the football players will get off due to our wonderful SBPD. They probably confiscated their alcohol for themselves

Posted by: - Location: SB on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:30 PM
The football team can't run the ball, but they can run to the liquor store ;p

Posted by: joe on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:23 PM
go to show you that charlie has no control over his players. you don't see any basketball or hockey players caught in this raid. seems the first thing nd freshmen learn id where to find the alcohol. it's been all over the papers and tv news that the so bend police were going to severely crack down on underage drinking. maybe these kids aren't that smart after all!!!

Posted by: - Location: Bar Stool on Sep 21, 2008 at 08:22 PM
With the all of the great concerts & other events this town has who has time for a party & drink? LOL. This lame town needs to bring some real entertainment around.

Posted by: YourStationSucks Location: Your mom on Sep 21, 2008 at 07:49 PM
Thanks for the board spam. It's good to see that the St Joe Cty police aren't the only joke in the area.

Posted by: Todd Location: South Bend on Sep 21, 2008 at 07:20 PM
Now bar rats...how unimportant were these arrest? A guy with prior DUI? I think that was a good use of the excise police and the job they are hired to do.


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