Cutbacks for SB fire and police; layoffs likely
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Posted: 12:07 AM Aug 7, 2008
Last Updated: 8:11 AM Aug 7, 2008
Reporter: Marcie Kobriger
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The city is facing some hefty cuts -- possibly to the tune of 21 million dollars -- due to a loss of property tax revenue.

It appears no department will emerge unscathed. Police and fire are no exception.

At a budget hearing Wednesday afternoon, department heads told the common council about personnel cuts that may be necessary.

As it stands now, city leaders say 53 firefighters and 40 police officers have to go.

That would slash both departments' budgets by more than four million dollars.

Department leaders warn, beyond personnel cuts, the tight budget could mean almost 40 school crossing-guard positions will be cut, paramedics may be on short supply, and one or more fire stations may have to close.

In the face of these cuts, the police administration fears what it could mean for their men and women out on the streets.

"It takes 66 to run a shift, and you're loosing 53. You do the math on that. That is difficult," South Bend Fire Chief Howard Buchanon tells NewsCenter 16.

"We have a lot of officers out on different units, family violence units, metro homicide. We may have to wheel all those officers back in just so we can provide safety for our streets, and then we lose those services," Police Chief Darryl Boykins says.

Right now, the local option income tax is the only option on the table for raising revenue.

For that to happen, two of the three major councils in the county -- St. Joseph, Mishawaka, and/or South Bend -- would have to approve the hike.

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Posted by: firefighter Location: sbfd on Aug 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM
We were told by chief howard he was taking a 5% paycut and we should do the same.If I can got paid 76k Ill take a 20 % cut.He was "DUMB"founded at the common council meeting when he was asked where he cut . His response was I dont think we can cut anything so we will get rid of 57 firefighters.Thanks to our union president he was prepared and gave several areas we could cut.Thanks kenny. Later Howie addresses the firemen and wants us to take a pay cut but no jobs will be spared if we do. What would the point of us doing that if it would not save jobs. DAAAA, some people (person ) does not think.

Posted by: raggedy Location: south bend on Aug 14, 2008 at 06:44 PM
jackie i could'nt agree more. but that was tried right around 1962 when the 2 cities gov made the announcement the both cities were partners in progress they put on a big parade and everything guess what happened? nothing

Posted by: sb native on Aug 14, 2008 at 02:22 PM
Why is it the the mayor cuts firefighters and police officers when he should try to bring businesses in to the downtown area. Isn't that what Mishawaka did. Instead of buying up all these abandoned buildings and letting them sit there SELL THEM. Rent them out. Why doesn't the mayor cut jobs in his office and other overstaffed departments. Why not put up parking meters again. Just keep the jobs of the prople how keep up safe. Thank you south bend Firefighters and Police officers.

Posted by: Firefighter Location: So Bend on Aug 13, 2008 at 01:50 PM
I agree SBFD, Howard is a "yes" man. He has no clue about morale issues or what even goes on within the dept. Heck, he didn't even know the guys first name that almost got crushed. At least Luther knew his guys. Buchanan has no business being in that position. To bad the Mayor doesn't see it. What credentials does Howie have other than a degree in Photography that he obtained while on duty as a B/C. I would be mad being a Tax Payer and paying his salary (76k plus take home car). Howard, do us a favor and retire!! Oh, one more favor, Take your little brother with you.

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 13, 2008 at 01:31 PM
How about cutting back on welfare.

Posted by: to todd Location: sb on Aug 13, 2008 at 07:23 AM
todd- apparently you do not work on the street. why don't you try to handle our call volume with the rigs that we have-especially the ambo's. our ambo's are running their tail off. also, the amount of stations and rigs are not always based on call volume. you have to take into consideration the response times due to the geographic size. sure, there are stations that have very few calls but if there were to be a fire or serious medical call, you would not want apparatu to have an 8-10 minute response time.

Posted by: Todd Location: South Bend on Aug 12, 2008 at 06:31 PM
To Yeah Right....South Bend is indeed the fourth largest city in Indiana...I never disputed that. My point was in comparison with Ft Wayne and the three other cities, South Bend is over staffed. You are basing your facts off of an outdated census. South Bend has been declining in population for the last several years, but the staffing has not reflected that decline. I am well aware of what the NFPA standard is. That standard is inflated by the number of stations and trucks you own..not necessarily by call volume or population.

Posted by: SBFD Location: SB on Aug 10, 2008 at 07:09 PM
Chief Howard-thanks for the lack of support at the council meeting. way to be a "yes" man.

Posted by: Islander Location: South Bend on Aug 10, 2008 at 11:20 AM
AL:DTSB...Are you one of those guys that walks around and waters the planters downtown? Those morning glorys and 5 o'clocks are keeping my family safe.

Posted by: rex Location: winimac on Aug 8, 2008 at 03:22 PM
give the drunks their walking papers already

Posted by: Myrt on Aug 8, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Dana: just ignore anonymous - he/she has't a clue! He's probably jealous because he needs help crossing the street himself.

Posted by: unknown Location: unknown on Aug 8, 2008 at 10:43 AM
I am a manager for a bussnes that is located in Plymouth, Indiana. I have currently contacted South Bend to set up an appointment with the person that purchases different types of supplies for them. I have never heard back. I have a way I can save the city money buy selling them my product instead of them spending 30% more when the buy it from the current supplier. I don't feel sorry for the city, I do feel sorry for the people that will lose there jobs because the people that are in charge of making the decisions for the city are to lazy to exsplore other ways. I cant save them millions but I can save them thousands. If they would look other places for different things it might help.

Posted by: Dana Location: South Bend on Aug 8, 2008 at 09:11 AM
To "anonymous" - it's easy to see that your mean spirited train of thought is very ingrained. How unfortunate for you and probably those that are closest to you.

Posted by: anonymous Location: south bend on Aug 8, 2008 at 07:10 AM
Dana take up a can and start mooching. Knock on back doors for a nickel. Tell them your story and make them weep because you're out of there.

Posted by: Mike Location: Elkhart on Aug 7, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Why would they get rid of 40 police officers when they just hired 4 new ones last week??

Posted by: T Location: Shipshewana, IN on Aug 7, 2008 at 11:29 PM
...no problem, just lay off all the cops & the firemen and hire more much needed government officials & give the current ones a raise. why not, right? ...you can call those government officials when your neighbor gets drunk & shoots his wife, or when your house catches fire. don't call me, cuz i'm the fireman you complained about paying taxes to employ... i'm the officer that no longer has a job, cuz you wanted more money in you pocket to blow on dvd's... i leave you with one question, why are those that teach our children, those that risk their lives to protect our communities, & those that risk their lives to save a stranger in a burning building, and those that respond to your home to save your life when you are having a heart attack & get you to the hospital the people who are paid next to nothing & are always this first to go in budget cuts. try getting rid of the 50 year old politician who is sucking your tax dollars dry, after all when you call 911 will he show up to help?

Posted by: Me on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Joe where in the heck is the property tax relief? My taxes are the same you call that a relief? They are outrageous and I live on a fixed income. Get real!

Posted by: Erin Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Hey N, no offense, why do you think police and fire get the most attention? Because their jobs are the most dangerous! When some moron is breaking into my house, the 40 missing police officers are going to affect me far more than if the city archives are cut by 20%. I don't remember seeing an accident or fire and screaming out "QUICK, CALL THE CITY ARCHIVES!" I am sure there are archival emergencies to be had, just not many that involve guns, violence, etc. The very last services to be cut should be those that cannot be handled by the public through some other means. Private funds can maintain the arts or a zoo. Emergency responses are best administered by a government. In an ideal world, we could fund many types of departments, but if reality dictates cuts, I need to see a trained professional in a SCBA or with a loaded gun long before I need to see someone who can get me a copy of a document. P.S. Does anyone know if our mayor can be removed from office before an election?

Posted by: Dana Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:03 PM
To anonymous - My job IS the kids - what YOU don't know is that most guards develop nurturing relationships with the children they cross and are there for them on a daily basis when sometimes their families aren't or can't be. The guards have been known to provide warm clothing in Winter, hugs when needed and quite often conversations with parents encouraging them to keep on striving to be the best parents they can be regardless of their circumstances. I daresay every one of us would protect those kids from harm of any kind; helping them get safely across the street is just one of the many things we do. By the way - I signed my name - where is your courage to do the same?

Posted by: joe Location: so bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:49 PM
everyone stop your whinning, you wanted property tax relief. well you got it. this is what happens when you pay lees in taxes. can't have it both ways.

Posted by: tom Location: so bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:47 PM
anon you are wrong. lake co. has at least 2 if not more class II cities. get it correct next time.

Posted by: Yeah Righ on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:41 PM
Dear Mitch at 8:33 AM, which statistics are you talking about? SB is the fourth largest city in the state, according to the last census, so it stands to reason it is going to have a FD larger than most other cities/towns in the state. Also staffing is not a per capita deal. Many things factor into staffing such as call volume, response times, and the most important safe staffing levels. This information is located in the National Fire Proteection Association Standard 1710, since you love to 'read' facts and figures.

Posted by: J Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:00 PM
I call it Trashawaka for a reason but all this talk about Derek Deiter is really getting me fired up. I think we've discovered Lueckes biggest threat for the mayoral election. Any man with a Beefy Chest is ready to serve his city, state, country. Did we all forget Jesse Ventura!? God Bless Derek Deiter, his wife, take home cars, and coaching abilities. Penn just might lose this year, look out!

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Posted by: Tough Choices Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 07:05 PM
I know Mayor Luecke and our elected officials would rather not cut police and fire forces. However, those forces do represent the largest portion of our budget, so I can see why they are being scrutinized. In times of dire financial circumstances, like those we will face over the next two years, I say that we must make some tough choices. In order to maintain a safe level of police and fire protection, everything and anything BUT police and fire protection should be on the block. Then, and only then, should the police and fire departments be scrutinized. This may mean the end of the greenhouses, park services, community services, etc... These will be hard times and the city must maintain it's police and fire departments at all costs.

Posted by: Mickey T (Tom) Location: New Carlisle on Aug 7, 2008 at 06:55 PM
Derek Dieter is an admirable figure who I had the luxury of building a home for. Now I've seen many a posts discussing his "lakefront mansion." While his "lakefront mansion" is very nice indeed, it's not like it cost $1.2 million dollars and in Boulder Bay. It was somewhat closer to $.5 million and in the decrepid streets of Blackthorn. Why do people talk about him and his wife's take-home cars? If taxpayers are ok with officers abusing take-home vehicles, then who cares if he uses it to make extra money at other jobs he has or taking it to the drive-in movie theater so that he can makeout with his wife? What other father would even think about naming his sons after baseball players? Mr. Dieter should be commended for the privileged names he bestowed his sons with! I've also read posts concerning him causing the Adams footall program trouble... Get real people! If you're not cheating, then you're not trying! I've even heard rumors about Coach Charlie Weis wanting to talk to Mr. Dieter!

Posted by: Concerned Location: St. Joseph County on Aug 7, 2008 at 06:48 PM
Why do you think so many South Bend police live outside the city. The city has become unsafe on the streets and in the schools. Why can't this city live within a budget. Why does the mayor need more than one assistant, and why don't the other city departments restructure now.

Posted by: Anon Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 06:39 PM
Jackie, I agree with you on that. However, St. Joseph coutny is unique in the fact that it is the only county in Indiana with 2 class II cities. It would very unlikely for either city to give up power. This is going on down in Marion county. Uni-gov. Wishfull thinking but unlikely. I support it.

Posted by: anonymous Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 05:54 PM
Oh Dana you care more about your job than these kids and you know it.

Posted by: T Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 05:47 PM
Cut out the school resource officers' positions. It is well-known as a "cushy" job and all they do is sit around and get a take-home police car to boot. During the summer Crittendon's police car just sits out in front of Washington High School and there's not even any kids in the school. They just show up and lounge around all day in an empty school.

Posted by: anon Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 05:11 PM
What property tax cuts????????? Has anyone seen a cut. Let the state get their sh.t together and start taxing educational facilities, churches and stop giving out exemptions. I live outside the city limits and do not have any say so in who get elected but yet we still suffer the consequences.

Posted by: Don Location: indiana on Aug 7, 2008 at 04:59 PM
To you people that always want to point out spelling and grammar it is freedom of speech, not freedom of correctly spelled speech.

Posted by: Jackie Location: Mishawaka on Aug 7, 2008 at 04:58 PM
We need to combine our citys. South Bend and Mishawaka... Why have 2 we could save so much money we are still in same county ... One county govt. Governing county ... One Mayor for county etc... The entire nation is in a crunch .. We have to bunker down and do what we can.

Posted by: Dana Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 04:19 PM
As one of those that may be affected by the cuts (a crossing guard); I hope something can be done to save these jobs that provide safety for the citizens of South Bend and children in our schools. Some of the corners at the schools are so busy; I can't imagine small children trying to get across those streets safely; especially in the morning when traffic is the heaviest or in bad weather when drivers seem to be at their worst. It's difficult at times to manage the traffic with guards; I hate to think what it would be like without. What a shame if even one child is hurt because of budget cuts.

Posted by: N Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 03:46 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, every single department in the city has been asked to reduce its budget. All the department heads are taking pay cuts. You are just hearing about the two departments who had their budget hearings yesterday - budget presentations have been going on for several weeks, with every department showing how they're going to make cuts. The media has chosen to emphasis the two that would get the most attention. Would anyone here get excited by hearing that the city archives might loose 20% of their staff? No, which is why the media hasn't sensationalized it. Every single department is loosing money, and its due to the property tax cuts. And for the person who said we need to control purchasing - please talk to any city employee right now about how hard it is to buy anything because of how long it takes to get approval to spend money, and that's the immediate things that are needed day to day!

Posted by: dh on Aug 7, 2008 at 03:27 PM
To The Truth-August 7th: I couldn't have said it any better!

Posted by: Shaun Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 03:14 PM
This is a common scare tactic.they should cut the jobs of people that collect the tax money.that is where 75% of it goes anyway.

Posted by: City Employee Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Great observation Linda! But the lower case "l" in luecke's name is done intentionally. He is not worthy of a "Big L." Now consider yourself dismissed, as well.

Posted by: Carol Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 02:45 PM
This is bull!!! Get rid of some of the high paid jobs in our government - they don't do much anyway. I can't believe they would even consider cutting back police and fire departments. Of course, that's one way to put a scare into the public and hope they'll vote for a higher county tax and opt for a city tax, isn't it?

Posted by: Linda Location: Granger on Aug 7, 2008 at 02:14 PM
Sorry to respond twice. To City Employee, since you are so eager to correct someone else's grammar, I'd like to suggest to you that you spell the Mayor's name with a capital L (Luecke) not luecke. End of class. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Posted by: frosty Location: south bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:59 PM
I totally agree with punctuation and grammar. If your thoughts are not coherent, and everything is spelled wrong, no one will take the time to even think about what you have posted. The dictionary can be your friend, too...Don't look ignorant...Instead, look it up!

Posted by: Mary Location: SB on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:51 PM
No doubt, the City of South Bend, IN is in quite the mess. It seems many of you have not read, the staff in the Mayor's Office, along with all city department heads, will take a voluntary 5 percent pay cut in 2010. Mayor Stephen J. Luecke personally will take the voluntary cut both in 2009 and again in 2010. I think that the others pay cuts should come in 2009 as well, not in a year and a half. I'm expecting to see a drastic increase in crime, that will look great on your resume.

Posted by: Sarah Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:35 PM
This town is going to ____! We are one of the worst cities and lets lay off the 2 depts that keep us safe? Who thought of that dumb idea! When there are more crime victims dying and are our lives are now as risk I hope the mayor can pat himself on the back. What a ignorant

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Thefts, Deaths, Fires, Arson...EVERYTHING will go on twice as much due to the layoffs. Criminals read the paper and watch the news too. Response times will be longer and we will suffer.

Posted by: Mildred Geschke/Swichtenberg on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:11 PM
I am sorry I believe that the reason they are going after fire/police/crossing guards is because they effect the people more that anyone else. So they have to go after the people that are needed the most instead of cutting other places that are not as necessary. I know all jobs are important but what a better way to get what you want as to cut where it will hurt the people the most.

Posted by: CityEmployee Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Todd - while I agree with you that the City Council is nothing but a collection of fools, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously? City "Counsel??" You are the one that needs to learn your government, as well as grammar. And it is the corrupt local democratic machine, of which luecke is a part, that put South Bend in this situation. Notice how its 40 year stranglehold on South Bend coincides with the city's demise. Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out, even one who seemingly cannot differentiate between council and counsel. Class dismissed . . .

Posted by: Me Location: Mishawaka on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:06 PM
Way to go Mayor Bozo, You are about as smart as a slug..... And how about you Sheriff Frank Canarecci???? You still think you and your worthless Cheifs still derserve that big hefty raise for doing NOTHING???!!! What a JOKE!

Posted by: timmy on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Every day I hear about crimes in South Bend-how is cutting the police force a cure for this, shurly there must be another answer than this!!!

Posted by: CityEmployee Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:38 PM
A lot of great points here that point towards luecke's blatant incompetence serving as the catalyst for South Bend's demise. Too bad so many uneducated morons only know how to pull one lever in this town.

Posted by: Mary Location: Niles on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM
How about every one on the City payroll taking a pay cut?? Or perhaps hourly working one less day a month? Control purchasing - as in only "approved" items be purchased.......some people do take things home and should not.......spend wisely, we have to do it wit hour own money - we should be responsible with others as well..........

Posted by: Punctuation and Grammar are your friends.... on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Holy cow, people. If you want others to understand your point, please write in coherent and complete sentences. Some of you have very interesting viewpoints, but it's lost on those you seek to inform when hidden in half-literate posts. Please slow down and read your post once more before clicking the "Submit" button.

Posted by: John Location: SB on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:28 PM
The only city in Indiana talking public safety cuts is South Bend. We live in one of the worst cities in America. Name one reason why any of us should continue living in this democrat controlled city? You get what you vote for. You people who voted for Luecke are idiots!

Posted by: BTH Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:28 PM
The old Bauer-Kernan-Licky good ole boy network is finally catching up. Too bad the taxpayers are shelling out to make these carnival barkers rich. Did any of you notice what they were doing? I'm still amazed how you vote against yourselves!!

Posted by: dave Location: goshen on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:27 PM
south bend needs new leader's. laying off "life saftey personal" is the dumbest idea i have ever heard of in a budget cut. taxpayer should be outraged.

Posted by: B Location: Mishawaka on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:21 PM
I live in Mishawaka & work downtown SB. Cutting police will give the criminals a hay day. (Not that they really get punished anyway with our judges letting them off with just a slap!) What is with all the "improvement" to Michigan St? It looks fine to me. If money is not there for police and fire then how can there be money for all this "improvement?" And some of you have already mentioned the fact that they are cutting police but yet new officers were just sworn in. For what? "Thanks for your interest in protecting the community, but sorry we have no place for you on the department." What a joke SB has become. I have a friend who is a cop & he says all the time how frustrated they are with crime & how bad this city is. Yep we are the "NEW GARY!" I have said many times, "If you want to break the law & get away with it, come to South Bend, St. Joseph County, Indiana!"

Posted by: Mary Location: Mishawaka on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Though no one likes tax increases, the effects of the reduced budgets on the public safety are scary. If the local option income tax has to be increased to raise revenue and keep us safe and healthy then I am in favor of it. Is there a way to ensure that this money is used for certain specific departments like fire, police, and EMS?

Posted by: Dave Location: SbB on Aug 7, 2008 at 12:06 PM
To Posted by: William Location: Elkhart on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:05 AM First off William the College Football Hall of Fame is a waste of tax payers dollars. The reason I say this is if it can't bring enough money to pay for normal everyday operations then it needs to go. The city of south bend budgeted 1.4 million dollars to the hall. The only time I see a significant number of people at the hall is during enshrinement weekend and I highly doubt it made that much money in one week end.

Posted by: mary Location: sb on Aug 7, 2008 at 11:48 AM
How about combining police and fire with the county. It works in many big cities. Are there job losses predicted for other areas - other than police and fire? Seems like cuts could be more judicious by emliminating other civil positions. Scare tactic!

Posted by: Todd Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 11:27 AM
People..seriously! Learn your government. The mayor was not the major person who put South Bend in this position. You have a city counsel that votes in all this stuff. Start there first, then work your way up. Don't keep putting the same counsel members back in if you don't like the situation. It makes no difference if Juan or Steve would be the mayor right now. Same situation.

Posted by: anonymous Location: south bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 11:26 AM
I think the first cop to go should be the recent drunk arrested in Nappanee. Then we can whittle them down from there.

Posted by: Shawn Location: E-Town on Aug 7, 2008 at 11:17 AM
A few points: Firefighters have to eat, We live at the station for 24 hours. Mitch does not run our city, so blame the man with the bad toupai in St Joe County for this tax mess SBFD is higher on #'s because they operate their own EMS. Other departments do not. Last, If you don't like it here, move on out!

Posted by: Anon Location: Here on Aug 7, 2008 at 11:13 AM
How about cutting Mayor's admin asst.s and NOT spending all the money for new sidewalks?

Posted by: Kathy Location: S.B. on Aug 7, 2008 at 11:04 AM
I understand the 'why', but not the 'how' of coping w/ 48 1/3 police per shift/ instead of 66! Over 25% cut!? I live downtown & I can tell you that I've heard increasingly more police & fire sirens the past month!!! I'd like to ask: what time would be 'safe' to be 'on-the-street'?

Posted by: Vic Location: Indiana on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Same old sad story. Penny wise, pound foolish. You can pay $4 for gas but can't keep your city protected? Everyone wants a free ride. Get rid of your Good Ol' Boy Mayor and his FAT. All Indiana is in Trouble.

Posted by: SBCSC MOM Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:51 AM
My aunt is a crossing guard for 30 years now and was just informed today at their meeting as of01/01/2009 there will be no more crossing guards for SBCSC!

Posted by: Concerned Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Ever drive thru North Liberty? How do they justify letting a South Bend Police car be driven there? It is always parked there.........people there know what I am talking about.

Posted by: Margaret Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Why in the world did anyone vote to reelect Luecke? He does nothing productive for out city, yet takes credit for all the new Notre Dame neighborhood construction when the Governor came through. We have huge property taxes, (I have neighbors that pay upwards of $11,000) and for some stupid reason the salaries of our police and fire are dependant upon these outrageous taxes that drive people out of South Bend. Why oh why did you people vote this guy back into office? I guess if property taxes are causing people to leave South Bend, soon no one will live here. Then we won't need police and a fire department.

Posted by: Scott Location: Granger on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen you talk about the BLackthorn area, who do you think owned the land before it was sold off for tax abatments. ANSWER: JOE KERNAn. I wonder who is laughing all the way to the bank. FYI The city of south bend does own blackthorn but pays millions of dollars for a company out of Florida to run the operations. This will be the 1st year that the company can't make the bond payment leaving the city to pay the bills. The city also continues to shell out money to Blackthorn $750K last year for new sand traps and up grads. Where did that money come from. City is talking about 37 crossing guards and all these other lay offs. Why isn't School city paying for their services? Why are the 9 SRO's in the school's being paid for by the police when they should be paid for by the school's. Sounds to me like the schools should pony up some CASH. O wait I forgot they got to pay Zimmerman 500K to go away.

Posted by: Joseph Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Not to mention the two big contracting companies that our city continues to use that over bids every thing they do but they have ties with our local government. HMMMMM, wonder where all the extra kick back money is going? Somebody is getting it!! I think there needs to be a federal investigation on our local goverment. I would bet money that they turn up some dirty deeds that are going on in our city.

Posted by: OMG Location: Elkhart on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Like I have said before, the people of South Bend need to understand the definition of futility - you keep electing this mayor and expecting different results. It is sickening. No cuts for the College Football Hall of Fame? Tell me Mr. Mayor, how can you sleep at night knowing you would rather support the Cove and the College Football Hall of Fame instead of keeping the firemen and policemen on the streets?

Posted by: JIM Location: SOUTH BEND on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:34 AM
too bad!! go ahead and make your cuts.join the rest of the world trying to barely,get by.we dont like to get lade off either,but we do.we also have to cut back,on everything.you guys think you are so much better than everyone else,and the state should just bend over for you guys.bite the bullet like everyone is doing in these hard times.

Posted by: The truth Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:27 AM
No one else will say it so I will. Luecke caters to the minority vote. The majority of the minority, lower class, and poverty lives within city limits. A lot of inner city people make next to nothing and Luecke panders to them with promises of improving THEIR lives. He feeds the beast with government support to the lower class who sits back and receives government checks. Now the majority of people who live just outside city limits don't have a vote for the South Bend mayor. The unfortunate thing is that though we can not vote, we still have to work and live around this rotting city. The middle class is paying for the price of the poverty who know no better than to vote for their biggest sympathizer, Mayor Stephen Luecke. I recall during this last election, South Bend residents were being turned away from voting booths because they need not have a say in the election since they lived outside of city limits. Luecke fed the beast and the beast has been feeding on us.

SPAMMER #1


Posted by: mememe Location: SOUTH BEND on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:25 AM
What property tax cuts? Has anyone seen a property tax bill? AND the proposed tax cut do not take effect til 2010. All the talk only because its election time. Just scare tactics.

Posted by: Madison Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Just like the Mayor - make threats to cut police & fire then recommend an easy solution of raising taxes. Hey, listen to the people - do the hard work that you were elected to do - cut the waste and leave vital services!

Posted by: may Location: mishawaka on Aug 7, 2008 at 10:04 AM
What in the world is the city of South Bend thinking. We have more violence in the South Bend Mishawaka area than we have ever had. With so much violence, the last thing we need is to have our police/fire departments taking hits on loss of personnel. Pleases rethink this position, Mayor Lucke.

Posted by: William Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:55 AM
Everyone has to cut right now. The mayor put our city in a position where we have to cut more than others. So be it, Mayor Steve- the skeletons have come out of your closet.

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Posted by: Bob Location: SB on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:53 AM
St. Joe county was exempted from the tax cap because the county has been teetering on the brink of bankruptcy for years. You are being scammed people, taxes are not going down in St Joe county. Luecke is a joke and his threats are really funny. There are many more places to cut than police and fire. Doesn't he have like 5 assistants? Wake up South Bend you are being scammed.....

Posted by: M Location: V on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:42 AM
Sounds like a name change will be in order. Which sounds better; New Gary or East Gary?

Posted by: Robert Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:40 AM
We can not blame these needed cuts on the gov. or national economy. Your mayor (didn't vote for him) has had enough time to flex his political savvy and improve South Bend to a more robust quality of life. Unfortunately, renaming streets doesn't do much for the city and I don't know how many streets are akkiwed to be named after Martin Luther Ling Jr. This cracked foundation was set over the past several years by "trumpets" Mayor Stephen J. Luecke!!!

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Posted by: Relax Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:35 AM
Mayor Luecke has rubbed too many backs. Now he is throwing out these cuts to justify a raise in our already ballooned income tax. He put us in the position we are in. I refuse to allow him to hang me to dry. SBPD prides itself that all of its officers have ATLEAST an associates degree. They should have no trouble finding work elsewhere. Just being realistic here. I mean, isn't that the point... when they brag about that "fact"? If their officers have these degrees I am sure Luecke's thriving city will have employers ready and willing to hire. It's amazing how this city's public official's and servants shoot themselves in the foot.

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Posted by: Mitch Location: Mishawaka on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:33 AM
Statistics already have shown that South Bend fire is overstaffed compared to other medium to large sized city's in the state. It makes perfect sense to pay a bit of overtime if needed then to have 15 extra firefighters sitting around the majority of the time. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what they do, but the fire service has long been staffed on what if situations that rarely happen. We don't have the big factories we once did to support. People just need to realize they got what we wanted in lower taxes and you can't pay for something with money that is not there. Loss of business equals huge losses in tax revenues of several types. A horrible ND season like last year equals bad economic times for local businesses. South Bend needs to quit using ND as a crutch and plan more realistically. A mayor is only as good as the counsel that sits behind him voting. Mayors only suggest change, they don't vote it in...so remember your councils the next time we vote.

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:32 AM
You are right MOVER. South Bend is like a person on life support, so lets let the patient die. South Bend has been dieing since Studebaker folded, a little more every year. So now the state has pulled the plug and the city can not stand on it's own. This is a problem that has been past on for years, time to man up and let the city go. Fold up the streets, tune off the lights the party is over.

Posted by: Rob Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:30 AM
How about a few less Mayor's aids? Or NO more take home cars for anyone that can seriously justify it (detectives, ect, ect). Mr. Mayor there is still a lot of fat you can cut from the city budget.

Posted by: Todd Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:26 AM
Now wait a minute...I recall about a year ago several of you were on here screaming about property tax hikes and how horrible it was. Now you are being two faced and blaming Mitch for cutting property taxes..which it was really your state senators that did. Mitch can't do much of anything with out their vote. I hardly doubt Juan could of done any different. South Bend needs to face the facts that their city has shrunk in industry and even population. The staffing got out of hand compared to the budget and now they are paying for it. Maybe all the city employees need to chip in and offer a bit of a pay decrease that everybody could live with and save some jobs. No, instead it is everybody for themselves and unions that are holding strong to an option they don't have as usual.

Posted by: Brian Location: SB on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:21 AM
AL, Don't whine when you or your family needs PD or the FD if they make these cuts. You criticize things you know nothing about. Manpower is taxed as it is now. Perhaps that is why you don't see enough officers in your "hood". They are probably in another hood dealing with trash. As far as the firefighters at the store buying groceries while they are in service, in their district, it would be fun packing lunch for a 24 hour shift. It would be even better to have the time to sit down and eat it. When the lunch break buzzer goes off at noon, it doesn't mean squat when you call 911. If you want to criticize fine, but don't criticize the ones out on the street sworn to serve and protect this city, that are at the same time being used as pawns by the administration. We did not put the city in this situation.

Posted by: Clay Bob Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:20 AM
I know a young man. He is a white male who is educated and has a spotless background. A couple years ago he applied to the SBFD and SBPD. He made it very far in each applicancy process but in the end was declined a career with either agency. The very same year he was hired in to the most prestijuce competitive agency in the STATE. The way I see it, South Bend just hires the Good ol' boys, let's start cutting them loose.

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Posted by: CityEmployee Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:20 AM
You know, a little investigative journalism from WNDU might help this situation. Let's see a story comparing our budget woes with other cities around the state. How many public safety personnel is Gary, Fort Wayne, Evansville, Mishawaka, and Indianapolis proposing to cut? How is South Bend staffed in regard to full-time employees compared to these other cities based on per capita and geographical size. How big are their mayor's staffs, parks, code enforcement, economic development departments, etc.?? All we ever get around here is regurgitation of what the mayor says.

Posted by: Robin Hood Location: West Side Forest on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:16 AM
Remember everyone, once the income tax is raised, it won't ever go back down... Let the cuts happen- they need to- according the our mayor with a degree in Philosophy from some Po-dunk schoo in Illinois, there is no other way!

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Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:15 AM
St. Joseph County needs a new tax to help South Bend get out of Luecke's overspending mess. A special events tax, would be a tax kept at the same rate as the hotel/motel tax. The tax would be applied to any function taking place within St. Joseph County with a ticket price of $50.00 or more. This would be a tax on the rich that can afford to attend events of $50.00 or more while helping the poor. After all isn't this what its all about!

Posted by: Blackthorn Resident Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 09:13 AM
Deiter and his wife can car pool- they probably make about $100,000.00 a year combined earnings not to mention both squad cars and unlimited fuel..., and Super Cop Deiter is a councilman so add some more cash to his income. One hundrew fifty thousand dollars a year for a couple of SBPD officers, not too shabby... Who really is choking this city and hy am I teacher?!

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Posted by: Linda Location: Granger on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:45 AM
I think someone needs to Re-Think this. If anything is CUT it should be wasteful spending on things like new businesses that aren't really needed. It seems as though there is always money for new Malls, downtown improvements, etc. I'm not saying that that is not a good thing but for pete's sake keep our police and fire dept. people. That's the nost important thing of all. We've got enough problems without creating others by taking these away. Prioritize. Cut the un-needed, keep the needed.

Posted by: Anononymous Location: Goshen on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:35 AM
Sorry residents of S. Bend, but I've got to say, I'm glad I don't live there. I would be furious. Mayor, how about stopping taking trips on the city. How much does the City spend on the Hall of Fame? Don't know if this is allowed, but are any vehicles provided to employees at the cost of the City? The mayor perhaps? He can afford his own vehicle at his salary. I'm sure there is a lot more "fat" that can be cut if the Mayor really wanted to. Fact is, he would rather use scare tactics and cut Fire and Police Officers than look at other ways to save money. Sorry South Bend.....when is he up for election again?

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:26 AM
Go ahead and cut services. Everyone head for Midwest Arms and Ammo and learn how to protect yourself and property.

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:20 AM
Let's hear from you idiots that voted for Luecke. I hope you're proud of yourselves.

Posted by: Mover Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:15 AM
I'm moving out of this city. I am tired of all these threats and crap. This city government is a joke (just like Roseland) it is being run by idiotS that are way overpaid. Raise the taxes and you lost your job come election time ... THINK about that threat. It is more real than yours.

Posted by: bob Location: goshen on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:13 AM
maybe less money to make the downtown area into a beach. what they spent last weekend would go a long ways toward paying salaries

Posted by: William Location: Elkhart on Aug 7, 2008 at 08:05 AM
Look it is not City officials or State officials that affected this issue. Read up on something called the "2% circuit breaker" This is about property tax reform because homeowners got tired of paying the way for everyone! The problem is St. Joe does not take out as much in payroll tax as surrounding counties and there is nothing they can do about it at the moment! Sure they have known about this issue for some time, 2 years or so, planning could have eased the blow but it is the tax policy that needs addressed not the Mayor! And for all you people that are doing the whining, educate your self before you go on a rant. The businesses bring tax dollars, you know the thing you are complaining you don't have enough of. So you need the Hall of Fame, Cove, and any other business that you can get here! Write your Congressman and tell them how you feel that will get more done than your anger on this site!. Good luck with that heart attack by the way.

Posted by: resident Location: mishawaka on Aug 7, 2008 at 07:42 AM
TAX NOTRE DAME, THEY OWN 53% OF YOUR CITY AND PAY NO TAX ON ANY OF THAT. The HAL OF FAME is a joke and a pain in the tax payers pocket book. They are just trying to scare all of us, so they can get more money so they do not have to think of a new plan.....

Posted by: dustin Location: sb on Aug 7, 2008 at 07:30 AM
how about we cut out the mayor pay check plus some of these idiot,s how did we pay for this stuff about 4to5 years ago before you rised taxs

Posted by: Brian Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 07:24 AM
Now it begins.To cover their financial incompetence St.Joe county governments are using a scare tactic so the citizens will swallow another tax hike.But I'm sure you idiots will re-elect them.How many wake up calls do you need?

Posted by: BigRedEvil Location: Death Valley on Aug 7, 2008 at 06:35 AM
Um, you people are are "missing the bus" on this.... It goes WAY higher than your mayor. Ladies and Gentlemen, may I introduce Mitch Daniels. If you want a person to blame - its him. His goal is to cripple the public service & government job sector, and thus create NEW jobs. The new jobs being outsourced "private" sector positions. Instead of police, you'll have security guards that patrol sections (at half the wage of police officers). Lets face it if you like having a job (and a decent wage) - it time to just Ditch Mitch.

Posted by: Jim Location: S.B. on Aug 7, 2008 at 06:06 AM
All these so called talks about job cuts are noyhing but scare tactics, If the mayor had any real intentions of actually cutting back,then why would they hire four new people for the police dept if their just gonna hace to let them go anyways? Never gonna happen all their gonna do is ehat they do best, RAISE YOUR TAXES , Its time to get all these clowns out of office and start electing people who will actually look out for the people .

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 06:05 AM
I find it interesting that IndyStar.com reports the the mayor has said that they too are facing challenges from the tax shortfall of "11 million" dollars", why is a city the size of Indy only having a shortage of 11 mil when SB is losing over 21 mil? Also the Indy mayor has said that in no way will public safety will face cuts, they can make cuts and increase fees in other areas such as the arts to to fix their budget shortfalls. He said "Fixing this should not leave blood on the water, it does not have to." Why does our mayor want to saturate us with doom and fear mongering? Please read for yourself the article on IndyStar.com titled "cuts to be made to arts programs due to budget shortages" I just can't get over the fact of a city with a million citizens can take care of their problems without resorting to scaring the people who live there. And then cut the civilians? They make the least pay of anyone in the dept. how is that a long term solution? If I could move from SB I'd go today

Posted by: steve Location: warsaw on Aug 7, 2008 at 05:34 AM
What an idiot tell the mayor to take a big pay cut but for god sakes dont cut police and fire dept.

Posted by: no more years Location: usa on Aug 7, 2008 at 05:25 AM
Why not layoff the whole country is laying off,closing businesses and schools raising prices,spending money on foreign soil where we don't belong, the Republican way.

Posted by: Charles Location: Berrien on Aug 7, 2008 at 05:23 AM
The Tale of Two Cities Saint Joseph and Benton Harbor. Mishawaka and South Bend. Benton Harbor lost everything because of poor management and spending on the wrong things. Looks like the Cove is the only real attraction to South Bend any longer well maybe the airport. But your right you mismanage and you loose big time as your doing right now. Taxing is not the problem. If you provide the right services and the people are happy the city will grow, if you cut services then it will die. South Bend has lost a lot of is tax base. WHY? Poor management and high taxes. Use to be people from Michigan came to South Bend to shop years ago. They would stop and get a lunch or take in a movie. There is nothing left downtown to attract people from outside the area. Why did the people leave tax incentives and chance to grow in a better and safer area. Wise up South Bend is it not just the Mayor but the whole common council and then throw in the state and county. GOOD LUCK to you

Posted by: G Location: Mishawaka/South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 04:47 AM
Fire/ Police... If you speak to a fireman or officer they will tell you the brutal truth on what is out on the streets. It said to say somewhere from the street, to adminstration, to city hall, to the public. police and fire protection should be number #1. Its really not safe out there. Those of us who know (IF your where a badge) understand the real deal. Us citizens maybe savy to a degree but are dealing with other things in are lives and see what is reported on the news. Just like this posting or the comments about cutting police and shots at Sgt. Sweda. Ireally wish the public could talk, see, or really understand what is out there. Well most belive they do. I don't question a carpenter, a plumber, a painter if the need more guys to be safe or do a job. Why the hell would I second guess a police force or fire personal.Crazy.If this happens the ever dying coummintuy of South Bend will see the problems rise and the qualitly of life drop more below standard.Thanks mayor!

Posted by: John Location: SB on Aug 7, 2008 at 03:16 AM
Ok dtsb. about the fireman at the store. do you live at your place of employment? This city is a product of its leadership. Not the police and fire sworn to protect it. Anyway what are you doing to help?

Posted by: John Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 03:05 AM
If everyone is so unhappy with the Mayor. How does he keep getting reelected. I know i didn't vote for him.

Posted by: Michael Hinchley Location: Elkhart on Aug 7, 2008 at 02:41 AM
I moved out of South Bend due to the high taxes. The quality of life did not justify the price. The schools are awful, as are the roads. The home taxes were twice that of surrounding counties and for what??? How can places like Portage and Valparaiso IN have such a better quality of life, much less crime, better schools and roads, yet with half the tax? South Bend needs to take a long look in the mirror!!!

Posted by: Steve Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 02:31 AM
To answer Saul's question, I think I heard that Blackthorn has lost the city something like 4 million and the number keeps growing. Of course, they bury those numbers. I can't believe that our tax dollars support golf. Give me a break. Don't close the course, just sell it, win-win, it will stop the bleeding and also bring in property tax revenue. Of course they would never do that instead they might close Studabaker which serves more of the public including kids than Blackthorn. Plus didn't last year some group want to buy the Football Hall of fame and move it to Texas? I can't believe we didn't let it go then.

Posted by: KG Location: South Bend on Aug 7, 2008 at 02:11 AM
John T "Let's see the city buys Gates of over a $1,000,000.00 for what? To get a few more people at the Cove? In 14 years I have been there twice. But where the money is really needed it's now not there to pay for those who protect and serve for us. I guess 9/11 didn't mean anything to this Major." C'mon John, the mayor doesn't know what it means to fight, especially for something honorable. He is, in fact, a self proclaimed "CONSCIENCTIOUS OBJECTOR". He's the kind of guy that will take a punch in the face repeatedly and not defend himself, on the principal that defending himself would mean he would have to be violent. God bless our police officers and fire fighters, because Luecke won't.

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 7, 2008 at 02:10 AM
You all sound like idiots.

Posted by: hmmm on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:45 AM
I see they also talk about laying off the crossing guards. Hope you can walk your kids to school so they can cross the street safely. The beat cars won't have time to do it if the guards are gone.

Posted by: What Will Happen on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:44 AM
Folks, if these lay offs happen, don't expect anywhere near the same services you get now. Expect looooong response times for police, fire and EMS. Expect more fires to get out of control because there won't be enough firefighters to go inside and fight fires. Don't expect officers to come to your house and take a larceny reports when someone breaks into your car during the night. To Theresa and Greg, you are both idiots.

Posted by: norm Location: mishawaka on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:42 AM
plain and simple you build all these new buildings and dont charge any taxes they move out in 10 years and we are stuck with the empty buildings. lets check our budget 10-15 yearsago when we had strip bars in our town. i am not totally for them but i am guessing that around that time frame our taxes were alot lower. maybe the mayor and his assistances should take a cut in there pay. you want to sacrifice are safety and well being of people by cutting our police and fire dept. what about early retirement. also our city has a union that is a joke some of them are making to much money. alot of times i go around town and see them just standing around. maybe we need to start paying them for the amount of work they do and not the work they dont do. also i think the average pay for a city worker should not be no more than $10.00 an hour. there are alot of people that work harder than them and get paid less. i think i might just try and run for mayor and bring people back to south bend again.

Posted by: J Location: west side of SB on Aug 7, 2008 at 01:36 AM
Shut down all the stupid water parks and all the extras! Major Luece take a pay cut to help out. Cut out the common council.. Put Deiter back on the street full time.

Posted by: Al Location: DTSB on Aug 6, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Come on people, South Bend Mayor Luecke and Deiter & company are worse than the Snyders & Roseland. Don't be stupid and look at the big picture: threaten & scare the South Bend residents with les police & fire protection? It's a ploy for more tax $. What kind of budget planning do they do? Out of $, sure blame it on Property tax cuts. Just remember who goes gung ho on annexing. Our city needs to cut back on the dead weight and all the administrative assistants and created jobs. Our city is and will be aghost town. As far as being protected I never or hardly ever see a patrol cr through my hood. And the gangs & graffitti are everywhere. Just drive down Ford St. & through the alleys. Come on, the police & mayor no this happens allthe time. Want to find aFireman? Just go to any local grocery store & you will probably find some. Gee, I have to bring my Lunch already made from home. You'd think they would shop before coming to work. Speak up South Bend residents!

Posted by: Jake Location: South Bend on Aug 6, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Thanks Mitch.

Posted by: Anon Location: S. Bend on Aug 6, 2008 at 11:02 PM
We CANNOT afford less police officers. There is TOO much violence on the streets of S. Bend already and not enough officers to handle it as it is. They are telling the citizens their lives aren't important and we have to possibily pay the ultimate price with our lives. Good job, too, announcing to all the thugs that they'll have more opportunity to kill, rob, rape and ruin lives. In a year, I'm out of this area... IF I'm still alive by then - no thanks to our city "officials" who can't manage their budget!

Posted by: Carly on Aug 6, 2008 at 10:22 PM
I understand the necessity of cutting costs but there has got to be a better way of doing it. The fire and police departments are the last places that should EVER see any cost cuts. It's just unrealistic and UNSAFE!

Posted by: John T. Location: South Bend on Aug 6, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Let's see the city buys Gates of over a $1,000,000.00 for what? To get a few more people at the Cove? In 14 years I have been there twice. But where the money is really needed it's now not there to pay for those who protect and serve for us. I guess 9/11 didn't mean anything to this Major. This shouldn't even be a item to talk about. It's time to impeach this Major and put someone else in charge. We really don't need him since the common concil really running the show and taxing us to death. Wheel tax, Football Hall of Shame and know another personal tax to be charged to use. Good luck.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: SB on Aug 6, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Where are you??? Use your STAFF, it is tough times. Come on Luecke , don't you like south bend more??? We need the police !!!DUI is the LAW!!

Posted by: Robin Location: WEST SIDE on Aug 6, 2008 at 09:26 PM
In reality South Bend is a dying city.Once a thriving area of developement for industry,truckng hub central,common blue collar jobs and good neighborhoods.Now Mishawaka flourishes with our losses;WSBT,St. Joe Hospital,retail including car dealerships.Our Mayor thinks that putting restaurants and retail shops in the old Gates property is going to make the city prosper? He wants to tax us more with less? He wants to annex for city tax dollars and he does not provide the service? Yet all the money and kickbacks he makes on BOND PROJECTS.How many young adults have stayed in this community to have a career and raise a family ? The bottom line is that we all suffer today to make ends meet and this city administration has to cut the fat at the top!We are like Detroit city...rotting from the inside out beginning inside city hall.

Posted by: LCB on Aug 6, 2008 at 08:59 PM
The mayor has to go.

Posted by: Theresa Location: South Bend on Aug 6, 2008 at 08:32 PM
It looks like South Bend cops are sweating it right now. If you guys pull over and arrest enough of your drunk driving and corrupt fellow officers one might imagine some new job-security would be available.

Posted by: Greg Location: South Bend on Aug 6, 2008 at 08:03 PM
Cutting the cowboy Mark Swezda would be a good start. Swedza got what he deserved.

Posted by: Saul Location: South Bend on Aug 6, 2008 at 07:05 PM
Who is the mayor kidding now? With an average of 3 firemen per truck and with three shifts, this would result in closing5 plus fire units. Ang South Bend, the mayor keeps on expanding. As far as the police department goes, we need mre. Why can't the Mayor see through his web and reduce his staff in the mayor's office? Reduce the number of PR people who "quote serve the city." We have a pr person in the fire department, a captain in the police departm,ent, and a staff in the mayor's office....why? Also what about the true cost of the Cove? Does the lease with former Mayor pay for all the expenses of the park department including water, gas and electric and repairs? How much do we as taxpayers subsidize this venture? THe same is true for Blackthorn...he sand his leaders say to close Studebaker golf course which is used by the average South Bend family vs. the high expensive Blackthorn which caters to out of towners. How much do we subsidize Blackthorn?

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 6, 2008 at 06:51 PM
Read my lips," More new taxes!"How is it possible to swear in new SBPD while threatening to lay them off? No one is going anywhere

Posted by: Gary Location: East Sider on Aug 6, 2008 at 06:50 PM
Threats,threats and more threats.If you got to go, then you have to go!How can you hire four new officers and then talk about a layoff? The mayor must not be aware of his city finance issues or he is calling a bluff.Also more people are leaving South Bend so actualy there probably be less.. of a need for the positions lost.


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