South Bend Police shoot, kill bank robbery suspect
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Posted: 3:16 PM Jul 25, 2008
Last Updated: 12:07 AM Jul 26, 2008

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A bank robbery suspect is dead tonight, after being shot by South Bend Police. Around 2:20 p.m. Friday afternoon, police say a man robbed the First Source Bank on Portage Road, that's on South Bend's northwest side. When police chased the suspect down, they say he attacked them with a knife. Police then shot him. The suspect was pronounced dead on the scene.

Police say they had no choice but to shoot the suspect because he was going after them with a knife. Bank officials told police the suspect looked like the same man who robbed their bank just last week.

The man got away with some cash and a dye pack. As the suspect left the bank at least four police officers chased him. The pursuit ended in the Calvary Baptist Church lot. “He [suspect] stopped, turned with the knife in his hand and he attacked officers. One of the officers was backing up, trying to get out of the attackers 'kill zone,’ gave every alternative to not do what he did and he chose to attack him,” says Commander Tim Corbett, with St. Joseph County Metro Homicide.

Police say two officers shot at the suspect. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Gas station attendant Amber Bashore heard the gunshots and saw the chase moments before. “I stepped outside, saw two cop cars and undercover come running out and a guy was running up over the corner of the grass, shot out that way and then all of a sudden, I started hearing gunshots,” explains Bashore.

Police say the man was shot in the upper torso, but wouldn't say how many times he was shot. “It needs to be perfectly clear that this is an ongoing investigation, but that the officers defended themselves in that attack. When you're being attacked with a knife, that's lethal force... more than enough to penetrate a vest, more than enough to kill you,” adds Corbett.

Although Bashore was surprised by the robbery, she says she wasn’t too surprised with how it all ended. “Hopefully people will realize that you can't do this. You know, it's just not right. I understand the economy, everything is raising in prices, but still, it's just not right for somebody to rob a bank,” says Bashore.

Right now, the names of the officers involved and the suspect are not being released. Police want to notify the suspect's family before releasing names.

The investigation remains ongoing and is in the hands of the St. Joseph County’s Metro Homicide Unit.

An autopsy on the suspect will be done in the next few days.

The last time a South Bend Police officer used deadly force on a suspect was in April 2007. That's when Patrolman Michael Norby shot and killed Scott Barnaby. You may remember that came after Barnaby shot and wounded Norby and killed his partner, Corporal Nick Polizzotto.

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Posted by: Anonymous Location: IN on Aug 4, 2008 at 06:19 PM
SBPD, was right on this one sorry citizens for taking one more bum off welfare! He chose the wrong path and he paid for it in full!

Posted by: Ed Location: SBI on Aug 4, 2008 at 04:25 PM
So many clueless people. I bet each officer's gun held about 15 bullets. Restraint is that he was not shot 30 times. I bet it comes out that they fired until the threat to them (and the public, and the tellers at the next bank he would have robbed) was over. When he went down and was not a danger, I bet they stopped shooting. Anybody that thinks the police used disproportionate force has not faced a knife. Trust me, the courts have long recognized that this course of conduct is reasonable and acceptable. It's a shame the guy died and didn't get to change his life around and become a good citizen, but that was a result of his decisions. The officers aren't glad they had to shoot the guy, I guarantee it. They are only glad they went home to their families, in spite of the bad guy's actions.

Posted by: mike Location: elkhart on Aug 4, 2008 at 02:52 PM
Bottom line is the police have a job to do which is stop the bad guys from doing bad things. If they feel their lives are threatened because some scum bag has a knife, gun, club, ax or whatever, and he approaches the police, they have the right to take deadly force to stop him. If everyone would realize that, we might see less crime. If our laws were MUCH stricter, and you knew ahead of time that if you do something wrong, the penalty is possible death or a long incarceration (no get out of jail free cards), you might think twice. This countries laws SUCK when it comes to making people pay the price - you almost always get off with a slap of the hand. Go to some of these third world countries and steal something and get caught - you might get your hand cut off, or spend a year in jail, get cained. These places don't mess around and therefore have much less crime. Toughen up our laws and let the police do their job in a manner that makes people think twice. We'll all be better off.......

Posted by: Son of a Cop Location: SB on Aug 4, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Great Decision making by the SBPD...... http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080804/News01/587500215&template=247art

Posted by: Myrt on Aug 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM
I feel the police were justified in protecting themselves. Also, don't the officers involved in a shooting such as this have to take time off for counseling before they come back to duty?? (I know the MSP used to have that protocol, but I'm unsure if it still it true) If so, with a 40 officer layoff, will there be enough officers to cover for those who may be out because a situation such as this.

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Vito is right. They shouldn't have killed him with a gun. They should have beat him to death with clubs. What? Vito? Isn't that what you meant to say?

Posted by: Brad Location: Niles on Aug 4, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Well we will never know if the suspect did or did not in fact turn to attack the police because now we only have one side of the story. I'm not saying the police involved here were wrong or right but it is a well known fact that police and government cover up mistakes, lie about the facts and prey on that lack of knowledge. I will employ the same scrutiny to the police as is would be me if I were in their situation. Don't like it? Too bad! People lie even though their outward appearance and behavior would suggest otherwise. Cop bashing is well deserved for some. True, honest and righteous Law Enforcement Officers do not take offense. It's the bad ones that attempt to dissuade and exploit and take advantage of situations like this as exampled by the name calling and condescending remarks as it provides an effective cover and canvas for them to work.

Posted by: m4 on Aug 4, 2008 at 05:25 AM
vito im sure that you would just love if our police and all other citizens were unarmed...just like in england where only special armed units are allowed firearms....then all of our violent criminals would be the only ones armed and free to do whatever they want without fear of being stopped. and just like across the pond you guys could attack our police everyday. what kind of criminal activity are you and your friends involved in that would make you worry about the police being armed? and they dont have the authority to kill anybody you maroon. they were defending themselves. even someone that wasnt a cop could have shot that guy and couldnt be charged with anything. in my opinion everyone working at that bank should have been armed and should have took that guy out the second he pulled out the knife. good job SBPD.

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 4, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Vito your an idiot, with all due respect. All he had was a KNIFE?...So the police should have used harsh language and their FISTS to subdue someone trying to kill them? Real bright on your part. Heres a situation. Dirt bag takes YOU hostage with a knife to your throat and has no intention of giving up until YOU or him are dead. Would you like the Police sniper who has a bead on the suspects head put his rifle down to wait and see what happens or take out suspect before he opens up your throat? Think about that and get out of the bubble that you live in! We are in a land of dirt bags with guns and knives that kill people. We are not in the UK where cops don't carry weapons. Police are getting killed in this country almost every day and quite frankly they are tired of it. Let this be a lesson to all people who make bad choices.

Posted by: Vito Location: S B on Aug 3, 2008 at 12:38 PM
We should take all the guns away from the cops. They should not be given the authority to kill anybody. They could have easily beaten this guy, all he had was a knife.

Posted by: Annon Location: South Bend on Aug 3, 2008 at 04:12 AM
Esther you need some help or education. Probably both. What exactly is the FBI suppose to look for. Man robs bank (Numerous as we are now finding out) and runs from the Police. Then turns on the Police and confronts them with a knife. Police defend themselves and the suspect it mortally wounded. What should they investigate? I am sure you have just great information on the Barnaby situation. You know not what you speak of in either case so please be quiet.

Posted by: Esther is correct Location: area 51 on Aug 1, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Esther you are correct we should examine the reports. This poor guy was gunned down by a flying saucer, just like the one who shot down 2 jets in NY, one in PA and one in DC a few years back in Sept. Maybe, just maybe Dick Cheney was out in the field hunting?

Posted by: m4 on Aug 1, 2008 at 02:47 AM
i love how all of you crybabys beg to be protected by the police and then throw a crybaby fit about the way its done. ohh what a shame that poor nice bank robber man that attacked the police with a knife was killed. im gonna go cry myself to sleep. maybe they should have did a backflip round house kick and knocked the kinfe out of his hand like in the movies. im glad they were smiling in the pictures and i hope they had fun. you would be happy too if you survived a situation where someone tried to kill you. the police need to shoot more bad guys.

Posted by: Willie Location: Niles on Jul 31, 2008 at 04:54 PM
I think Esther from Rolling Prairie should go stand in a field with a knife-wielding 20-something bank robber before she shoots her mouth off. Just my opinion. :-)

Posted by: A friend Location: South Bend on Jul 31, 2008 at 04:48 PM
I know Chris Slager, I promise he did not panic. He is one of the most level headed police officer. I don't know the other officer, but Chris is a very good cop, he fired his weapon because he had to. There was no other choice.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Jul 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Annonymous at 9:34, you had a good comment except about the kids getting a gun pulled on them for ringing a doorbell. I would do the same thing if I asked them to stop and wouldn't. Shouldn't have been trespassing!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 31, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Well said anonymous on July 31 08:34 AM..All too true!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: LaPorte, IN on Jul 31, 2008 at 10:28 AM
While I don't agree with what Brian did, I certainly am sorry that he chose to end his life this way. I worked with Brian 10 years ago when he was nineteen. He was a nice young kid then with such a chance for a bright future. That is how I choose to remember him. My prayers go out to him and his family. I am glad no other lives were lost.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart on Jul 31, 2008 at 10:16 AM
If only he had used his genius for niceness instead of evil.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Jul 31, 2008 at 09:34 AM
Why is it always the police's fault when a SUSPECT gets killed by an officer. This man robbed numerous banks, pharmacies, credit unions, and ect, and when he finally got caught it came down to a suicide by police. Once he was cornered, he knew he was going to jail, but he decided that was not an option for him. It was his time to get caught because the more desperate he was getting, the next robbery he could have killed someone, with a gun or a knife. We have people pulling guns on kids for ringing door bells, we have drug dealers shooting innocent people, drive by shootings everyday, but when a POLICE OFFICER pulls his gun, shoots or kills someone they are in the wrong. These men and women are here to protect us, if he had robbed your business, or your family the shooting would be justified. WHen the mayor takes away the police it will be up to the owners and or tellers to shoot the suspect, and our city will be more of a mess.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 31, 2008 at 09:22 AM
It doesnt matter if the money is insured. Jeesh you bored people will bring up anythng. Find a hobby.. crossword puzzles or maybe circle the word. It is a crime regardless. A crime that involved a weapon. If it was so easy then why use a weapon? Ummm because its not and its a crime. It is frowned upon by most normal people when somebody robs a bank. It wasn't a pack of gum from your local 7-11. At that thought.. rob houses. Everyone has house insurance so go at it! Wow you really just raised the ignorance level alot! Congratualtions

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 31, 2008 at 09:22 AM
I'm glad the Police were smiling in the Photos. They should be happy they cleansed Michaian of more trash. They should smile because there is one less robber on the street. They should smile because the Police scored one for the good guys. For those that don't like it, may I suggest that you never call anyone for help or better yet move out of town.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Again..Some of you cop hating people are just ticked off because SBPD won the fight! If one of the officers had been killed you would still make excuses for the perpetrator of how mentally ill or whatever bad marbles were rolling around in his head that fateful day. Don't get mad. If you people got a family member that is robbing banks, tell them to quit or they may suffer the same consequences if they attempt to attack officers with a DEADLY weapon. Oh by the way, for you professionals that think you know everything about police work, you can still die from getting shot in the leg if you get hit in the right spot! Lets see if one of you sharpshooters could hit someone in that location if the perp is MOVING at you at a high rate of speed. No one had anything bad to say about the bank security guard in Niles that whacked a bank robber that had a deadly weapon. What's the difference?

Posted by: dexter Location: elkhart on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:07 PM
Hey carlos, Like Sean Connery said in the "untouchables" "He (the robber) shouldn't have brought a KNIFE to a GUN fight!" Dumb***. (Goes to the same bank in the same week w/ the same clothes.) One less fool in the gene pool)

Posted by: Mike Location: South Bend on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:21 PM
In walks TOM! Where have you been? It took longer than usual for you to begin your all to common Police bashing post. For everyone that doesn't know, Tom is our resident Police bashing idiot. He's been on the wrong side of the law so many times and gets off by posting on a news board bashing Police whenever possible. Hey Tom, you gonna come out of the closet soon and enter the real world or are you gonna remain a keyboard commando. Your brain is fried from watching to much "smarter than a 5th grader". Here's a thought, why don't you be a man and come out of the closet, look these Officers in the face and let loose your frustrations for Law Enforcement. Your a weak minded fool who can't hack it in the real world. You bash people from behind a keyboard where you feel safe only because there are Police Officers to protect your sorry butt. Just remember why you have your sorry life, because there are Police there to stop some thug from taking it from you! Have a nice day looser!

Posted by: cop Location: indiana on Jul 30, 2008 at 03:13 PM
There is a lot of back and forth here about the amount of force that was used maybe we should look at case law, Plakas V. Drinski, 19 F.3d 1143 7th cir. 1994 failure to employ alternative means of force less intrusive than deadly force DOES NOT render the use of deadly force unreasonable. That should cover the claims that an alternative force should have been used. Now on to shooting to wound there is a number of civil lawsuits that have come out of wounding a suspect in the leg or arm, because all the training that they recieve teaches them to shoot center mass which happens to be the middle of the chest. If the officer shoots the leg or arm intentionally then they will be held personally liable because they did not follow the training. Police do not shoot to kill they shoot to stop aggressive action, death is a side affect of being shot. If you place an officer in a situation where time is not a luxory and deadly force is in play I.E. gun, knife, ball bat... Good luck. SBPD good job.

Posted by: rusty shakelford on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:04 PM
Ever think maybee, just maybee the pictures of the smiling officers were file photos??? Nope? thought so. Rocket Science. Everyone jumps to conclusions and makes judgements based on a couple of paragraphs in the "news". Nice independent thought. Its like sheep. Oh well, I feel sorry for the people close to this guy who have to live with the guilt of knowing they did NOTHING to stop the multiple robberies he's been ID'd for.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:29 PM
GOOD!

Posted by: Esther Location: Rolling Prairie on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM
The FBI needs to examine this MHU investigation under a microscope. While they are at it, the need to find and scrutinize the Wooden Indian ballistic/forensic results from April 2007. Have any of you spoken with Barnaby's family? Morgan and Slager didn't have to kill Brian Szuflita. They panicked and made a bad decision they'll now have to live with the rest of their lives. Given the chance to turn back the clock, I'm sure these two cops would do things much differently .. as in non-lethally. Too much adrenaline and not enough training.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Hey Tom, go rob a bank and when Officers arrive, please take a knife out and run at them! Was wondering why it took so long for our resident cop hating IDIOT to show up. It's like clock work!

Posted by: Carlos Location: Sidney on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:28 AM
I am quite shocked at how desensitized we've become to death. The man wielding a knife was outnumbered and out gunned at a bank robbery. Why couldnt he be shot in his legs. His arms. Any where non-fatal. There is no excuse for this excessive force. There was no reason to take a life for these actions. If this occurred in an upscale area, and the knife wielder were caucasion middle class male...Oh man, i am sure there would be a much different reaction. Consider for a moment the rape, robberies, assaults, murder in the inner city occurring every day. When they occur in upper classcommunities, it makes national news, laws are passed, groups are formed. In the inner city those 'thugs' deserve it. I think we need to wake up. A human life is still just that no matter where it is.

Posted by: Tôm Location: South Bend on Jul 30, 2008 at 09:11 AM
The officers clearly enjoyed killing this man as evidenced by the photos of the giggling officers. At the very least they're sick in the head. Now the officers come here as "anonymous" and get angry because their hero status has once again been shot to hell.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:17 AM
He didn't get killed over the money!! How many times do they have to tell you? He got killed because he tried to attack officers with a knife! Got it now morons?! Brians Mother told South Bend tribune "Why couldn't they just shoot the knife out of his hand?". Is that possible? Yeh, maybe in a John Woo movie and some of you would believe that could actually happen. Some of you bleeding hearts who thinks theres this BIG conspiracy and cover up by officers need psychic help also. Theres help for everyone whether they have mental or financial problems. He chose to take the easy way out and paid dearly for it. Get over it! He lost a deadly fight which he initiated.

Posted by: This will solve nothing on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:32 AM
To S Location: South Bend NW SIDE on Jul 27, 2008 at 12:42 AM I have a family and yes I struggle. But I still do not agree with the situation and if you do stop being a baby and you grow up, theres more going on here, more important issues then money that you have no understanding.

Posted by: jon Location: mishawaka on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:25 PM
about time all those tax dollars spent on police officers got put to good use :)

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 29, 2008 at 09:21 PM
Doug, when anyone has a knife after robbing a bank--I would shoot to kill too. Get real, joker.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 29, 2008 at 08:26 PM
Wow Esther, maybe you should just stop thinking. I am sure he did have problems considering most normal people do not rob banks... 2 different times and then pull a knife out. I'm sure you would want the police helping you out if someone pulled a knife on you. Live somewhere else if you don't like the laws.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 29, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Now waitaminute...the guy robbed a bank...the money is insured..not a violent crime...he weilded a knife...what ever happened to billy clubs? Cops aren't trained for hand to hand combat? Just whip out the gun and problems solved? And to all the people who say robbing a bank is so bad, the Gubmint insures that money, no one loses anything. Now a rape, murder, or something similar may have warranted such a reaction from the cops, but protecting the goverments money? These cops just wanted to fire their guns. And they couldn't run away from a knife? Wow.

Posted by: chris Location: south bend on Jul 29, 2008 at 06:18 PM
Look you buncha gun happy idiots, next time you get pulled over and the cop see's a butter knife on your passenger seat maybe he should blow your head off too. What happened to tasers or did the mayor forget to buy double a' batteries.

Posted by: SBPD supporter Location: South Bend on Jul 29, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Monica and Esther, go back to your subscriptions of "Conspiracy Weekly" and leave common sense to the big people. These officers were chasing a felon, were attacked with a knife and made a tough decision that you would have not had the mental capacity or strength to make. I thank them for it. I guarantee you they were well-trained and made this decision to save their own lives. I know you hate the world when it makes people take responsibility for their own actions, but Brian chose this path, not the officers. Use rational thought. If our cops were not trained well and were just out to shoot everyone, they would be doing it all the time. I believe they show amazing restraint and that is why we have so many repeat offenders because of liberal judges rather than corpses because of cops. If you have trouble with the smiles, cut them some slack. Our police see AWFUL things day after day and have to develop coping mechanisms. You would not last two hours in their shoes!

Posted by: in-the-know Location: sb on Jul 29, 2008 at 04:35 PM
the autopsy is complete and it does not match the officers' versions of the events and now they really have a mess on their hands.

Posted by: monica Location: new paris on Jul 29, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Yes, I also was sickened at South Bend Police Officers smiling in the many photos that were published regarding this story. Something about this whole incident is just fishy. The field with acrage, the smiling officers, the delay in releasing the man's name and autopsy results, the fact he allegedly only had a knife and the fact they haven't released the officers names that were involved. It all reeks of a cover up to be perfectly honest.

Posted by: CRE Location: South Bend on Jul 29, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Esther- we clearly waste taxpayers money for mental health issues everyday. If Brian had wanted help he would have gotten it. Obviously he was more concerned about breaking the law than getting help. And if you knew him and didn't try to get him help then you are partially to blame, shame on you.

Posted by: katey Location: niles on Jul 29, 2008 at 02:51 PM
I'm not the only one to hear this incident come over the scanner. Some female officer became unglued and then it became very secretive over the radio. It was very unprofessional to see South Bend Police officers smiling in photos at the violent ending of a man's life. They must be sick in the head or something. Nazis enjoyed the same thing, there are photos that prove it. Now we have a major delay in autopsy results. Perhaps they'll try and figure out how to defend 10 shots into this gentleman's back. Everyone knows South Bend Police got away with killing people while unarmed, just look at the killing of the suspect Hanrath.

Posted by: Doug Location: Elkhart on Jul 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Four policemen with guns, one suspect with a knife. It seems to me that from 30-40 feet away, let alone closer, and considering mandatory shooting range time, they could have aimed to wound, not kill. It appears there was more testosterone present than brains.

Posted by: Esther Location: Rolling Prairie on Jul 29, 2008 at 11:35 AM
The Szuflita family is POLISH, not Hispanic. Brian may have been adopted but I'm not positive. He graduated from New Prairie HS in 1997 and was a good student. Too bad the cops overreacted and killed him. Because they were trigger happy and obviously not trained properly, poor Brian will never receive the medical care he so desperately needed to treat his problems. Was lethal force really necessary? I think not.

Posted by: 1 Citizen's Opinion on Jul 29, 2008 at 07:35 AM
To SB Cops Family: I think you need to reconsider your post. People are lashing out because they are tired of the crime in our community. You may not like or agree with how they respond and that's ok. However, would you feel differently if people of Michiana were screaming excessive force? Would you feel differently if your loved was stabbed by this nutcase and a Judge gave a hand slap? I personally get sick of crime and the police. The SBPD have some great guys. The Mish PD, well let's just say they are a bunch of jokers with a group of them who need to be jailed for lying and other dirty deeds. When the Mish cops were killed in the line of duty I gave nothing. When the SB Policemen died I gave. So SB Cops family please get off your soap box and let those of us show support and frustration here rather than acting out our frustartions by burning the city and having temper fits. Thank you.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2008 at 11:27 PM
A "thug" is any race. Any ignorant criminal. It's idiots like you that contribute to any racism. It is what it is.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Hey sik, he was HISPANIC! And yes, still a THUG!

Posted by: chris Location: argos on Jul 28, 2008 at 10:04 PM
I dont care if your white, black, brown purple i dont care dont rob a bank the police wont shoot you. He made the choice to A rob the bank then B he pulled a knife and he got put down for it its his own fault

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2008 at 09:14 PM
To a cops family: People support the use of force and you get angry, cop killers get slaps on the wrists and you get angry. Get over yourself seek therapy for YOUR issues.

Posted by: Rick Location: mishawaka on Jul 28, 2008 at 04:59 PM
show his face you know like he broke into a house. get the pic.

Posted by: sik Location: river park on Jul 28, 2008 at 04:31 PM
to credit union employee dont you mean mixed feelings? and 2nd of all to the people calling this dude a thug are you still going to call him that after finding out hes white? or does the label thug only apply to minorities or non-caucasians?

Posted by: Elizabeth Location: St. Joseph County on Jul 28, 2008 at 03:01 PM
The only thing that I can say is "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight and expect to win." SPBD were justified in shooting someone who was coming at them with a knife. I am sorry that he died, sorry that he made the choice to leave his son without a dad. What if he had chosen to leave someone else's son without a dad. I live a mile from that bank, am at the Walmart all the time, could just as easily left my 7 year old without a mom. I hope that the SPPD officers get peace with this quickly.

Posted by: Farley Location: Granger on Jul 28, 2008 at 01:15 PM
I hpoe they charge this guys family for the bullets South Gary Bend Police had to use on him. Good Job men !!

Posted by: credit union employee Location: south bend on Jul 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM
everyone has missed emotions about this but i feel he desevered what he got. if you or someone you love worked at a bank/credit union you would feel the same way. armed or not he put those workers at risk

Posted by: Willie Location: Niles on Jul 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Good for them. My advice for all the bleeding hearts questioning the cops' actions: If you don't want to get shot, don't rob a bank.

Posted by: Sorry Location: A small town on Jul 28, 2008 at 09:26 AM
I was in the Wal-Mart parking lot when this happened, I heard all the shots and feel sorry any life was lost. It is a shame that good people have to deal with taking a life. But what if this desperate man would have made the decision to run my way and took a hostage would we condemn the actions of the SBPD then. Hell no. When he threatened with a knife, he opened the door for the police to defend themselves. He certainly could have pulled a gun out of his other pocket no one knew at the time if he had both. Everyday the men and women who protect us have to deal with that fear. Shooting the victim is something that the police officers who killed him will deal with the rest of their lives. I am sure this tragedy isn't easy for the officers. Lets support SBPD for doing their job and doing it well and being their to protect innocent lives.

Posted by: Don Location: South Bend on Jul 28, 2008 at 08:31 AM
Was it a good shot group? At least it wasn't another officer. It sounded like the man wanted to committe suicide by cop. Who, with a knife, runs towards armed officers that already have their weapons drawn. The man was either really stupid or wanted to die.

Posted by: Mike Location: South Bend on Jul 28, 2008 at 08:29 AM
Well said Ty! Still Waiting must be living in another world.

Posted by: One who cares Location: South Bend on Jul 28, 2008 at 08:26 AM
OMG...What were the officers thinking? What a waist. Don't these officers understand that grass won't always grow through dried blood. Now their may be a dead patch of grass. What a waist. Now someone will have to pay for some grass seed. As far as the robber, well, that's life!

Posted by: SB Cops Family Location: SB on Jul 28, 2008 at 08:24 AM
STOP the name calling. The robber is dead! The police are safe. To hear you people and officers alike call him and his family names sickens me!!!! Grow up all of you!

Posted by: Kathy Location: New Carlisle on Jul 28, 2008 at 07:57 AM
Even a 5 year old knows it's against the law to rob a bank! You break the law and you pay the price. Unfortunately it meant this mans life. I say good riddance. At least I know my tax money won't go to clothe, feed, give medical care or educate this person if he was locked up!!!!

Posted by: taxpayer Location: South Bend on Jul 28, 2008 at 07:56 AM
Good work SBPD. You acted quickly and keep the innocent safe. We support you!

Posted by: Rob Location: Elkhart on Jul 28, 2008 at 06:21 AM
I cannot believe people can actually point the finger at police for this. THEY DID THE JOB THE WAY IT NEEDED TO BE DONE. Any of you that gripe about police shooting someone like this are complete morons that never come out of your house to see what it's like. You need a serious reality check, and please don't vote.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Somewhere in this crazy world on Jul 28, 2008 at 06:13 AM
What if you were the cop? What would you've done if someone was coming after you with a knife? You're telling me you would stand there and not defend yourself? Think about it. Common sense, you break the law, you face the consequences and some times they can be fatal....

Posted by: Kristy Location: LaPorte on Jul 28, 2008 at 04:08 AM
I also heard this incident over the scanner and I heard a female officer become unglued right before the shooting, and then everything became very secretive over the radio. In all of the photos of the crime scene, one sees South Bend Police officers acting unprofessionally by smiling at the tragic ending of a man's life. They obviously enjoy causing people misery, let alone killing people in the process. One can see it in their posts here. The autopsy is going to show this man was shot multiple times in the back. It will also show an abcense of any gunpowder residue as a result of him being shot from a distance. Somehow these lies are going to come back to haunt the officers who started the cover-up.

Posted by: Jake Location: South Bend on Jul 28, 2008 at 01:49 AM
Brian decided by his actions that someone was going to get killed Friday afternoon and thankfully things turned out the way they did.

Posted by: Proud SBPD on Jul 28, 2008 at 01:16 AM
I guess I could understand why the female officer sounded so excited, bank robbery, foot chase, shooting....I might be a bit excited too. Some of you have no clue what being in law enforcement is like today. I'd go to battle with any of the officers involved in this, but would not with most of you who post on here.

Posted by: Larry Location: SB on Jul 27, 2008 at 11:52 PM
ty took the words right out of my mouth. Still waiting must be a family member. "The female shooter"? The shooters were male Officers. The female just called the foot chase out over the radio. Of course that didn't stop "still waiting for facts" to jump to very wrong conclusions, now did it? You should pick a different posting name "still waiting for facts' because you obviously have an agenda that does not include the "facts".

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 27, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Well put ty. Maybe "still waiting" has friends in his second life that think he makes sense. And speedy... oh brother.. just a moment of time before someone had to throw the race card out there. What does "evar" mean by the way? Did you mean "ever"? And do us all a favor and when some uneducated criminal breaks in your house or robs your mother or loved ones do not call upon the police. You hate them and you take care of that criminal by yourself. Leave the officers available for us that trust and respect them. It is not racism it is just reality. That guy deserved what he got whichever race he was.. male or female.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 27, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Where is "Mayor Chicken Little" when needed to speak for the city. At a time the city needs a mayor or some leadership nothing to be heard or seen. Luecke must be back out of town (in Europe with his wife) for a safe weekend. It would be good for the mayor to explain why it would be better to cut police officer on the streets over all of his (yes men)executive assistants.

Posted by: ty Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 10:54 PM
To Still Waiting- your moronic statements betray your effort to sound remotely educated. "Only an inkbag"? Do you have ANY idea what you type before you do it, or do you just say things to give it that sexy 'conspiratal' slant? Here's a "fact" genius- the "inkbag" is a dye/pepper gas pack secreted between a STACK of US currency! Thus, he unwittingly had the 'dummy' (homonym) money stolen during the robbery in his pocket & he didn't know it. It's triggered by those large gray things at the entrance/exit doors you pass through that you've likely never noticed. Once the dummy money pack passes through that frame, it's set to explode in 90-120 secs; I guarantee you he got serious burns as a result. Most people don't experience this because it's only given out during a ROBBERY. Incidentally, neither officer was a female so chalk up that angle to your having dropped out in 7th grade. Get another bag of Funyuns and drop us a few more comments between your internet 'sims' life adventures.

Posted by: Speedy on Jul 27, 2008 at 10:33 PM
This is just the excuse I've been waiting for to hate the cops. They're responsible for everything wrong in my life. And racism. Everyone is a racist except my immediate family, and I'm not even sure of uncle Leonard. We're EVAR so oppressed. We are noble folk. The rich are sinister, up to no good, shifty folk. Are ya buyin' that?

Posted by: Moo Cow on Jul 27, 2008 at 10:04 PM
I think it's sad that anyone would put these cops on trial and not the criminal. Guy charges cops with a knife and they're just supposed to stand there and let themselves get cut? No thanks. That's why we give police officer's guns. It's wrong for us for for anyone else to trust these men and women with our lives, expect them to give theirs and then judge them UNFAIRLY anytime they actually have to take care of something serious like this. NEVER should police officers EVER be in fear of repercussions for doing their jobs. NEVER should they have to worry about being sued by someone's family, who I am sure will all come out of the wood work after they haven't had anything to do with the guy in 15 years. I don't know any cops who wake up in the morning and pray that they get to shoot someone before the end of their work day. I think it's junk for anyone to ever imply that these men and women hunted this guy down and killed him unjustly. Go live on your own planet.

Posted by: JAK Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 09:52 PM
I am of the opinion that everyone whose hearts bleed for these turds need to become a victim at least ONCE so they can get their much needed dose of reality. Don't critique police officers who are trained, experianced and DID follow proper proceedure in this situation.. Quite honestly, it should happen more often. Thugs aren't afraid to kill, rob go to jail, go to prison etc. However, they're all afraid to die. Anyone who thinks that the death penalty doesn't scare these people, are wrong. Feel lucky that you or your friends and family weren't at the bank. Be glad it was him and not them.. I'm sure the story would have been different otherwise. I'm just glad that no one else got hurt. And for the alleged LaPorte Cop who is posting such garbage, shame on you. You weren't there. Perhaps YOU can arrange a school for the SBPD so that they can learn your skills. Maybe next time, they can be more prepared!!

Posted by: Tom Location: Leesburg on Jul 27, 2008 at 09:31 PM
Moron robs bank. Same moron runs from police. Then moron attacks police with knife. Moron gets shot and killed. Don't see any room for questions here. Just a sad end to an appearantly sad individuals life. Unfortunate, but all his fault.

Posted by: Answer My Prayers on Jul 27, 2008 at 09:15 PM
I applaud the SBPD. Thank you for getting a creep off our city streets. I support you! Shoot the bad guys and save tax money. I also say if you guys shoot them dead, the state should take the money they would save from attempting to rehab the person and give it to the policemen as a bonus. Oh did I mention it should be tax free! That's a great incentive to fight crime and be tough!

Posted by: anon Location: niles on Jul 27, 2008 at 09:02 PM
Just goes to show, you dont bring a knife to a gun fight

Posted by: Anonymous Location: south bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 08:55 PM
I agree with you sg.. Most of these so-called corporate people that are running the big businesses in this country are mostly at fault for the economy the way it is now. Most of them graduated from the so-called elite schools you mention. Who cares if Boykins got a degree from Ivy Tech! At least he has a degree. More than I can say for most people. I know him well and he is exactly what you call him. The most fair person you could ever know. ed.g your an idiot. You probably cheated your way through school anyways and I would sure like to see you do police work for 1 week instead of sitting at your computer trying to be a smarta#$$. You couldn't because you are a coward.

Posted by: Still waiting for facts Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 08:36 PM
8-10 shots? They chased him 400 yards? Thats 4 football fields??? Before killing him. FAMILY KNEW 45 MINUTES AFTER IT HAPPENED! Why the lies and wait to release info???? Is he shot in the back??? Did female shooter panic???? Like heard by several people on the scanner??? Brian had rules to follow and SO DO COPS! Why NO MONEY on him? ONLY had an inkbag in his pocket??? I too agree with Laporte Cop! Let the facts come in....Then decide... We have ONLY heard the cops side to story since Brian can't speak... He has paid for his crime! IN FULL... Now, Lets wait for the autopsy and officer and witness reports...

Posted by: Officer Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 04:52 PM
Laporte Officer. First I doubt you are, by the ignorant comments you made. These officers were in a foot chase of an armed "Bank Robber" a felonius act. He at the time was running, not surrendering. During the chase he turned and confronted the officers with a knife (dealy weapon). The officers responded to their training and did the right thing which they had to decide in a fraction of a second under extreme stress. They neutralized the threat. Yes the suspect died and the loss of human life is tragic, however he chose his destiny END OF STORY.

Posted by: Anon on Jul 27, 2008 at 04:48 PM
Well Tom his chemical imbalance cost him his life. Getting help for this would have been better than robbing a bank. Sorry but bank robbers are scum and sometimes kill innocent people. We all know robbing banks and doind drugs is against the law. He chose this life and he paid for it dearly. Maybe you should have helped him get the help he needed or his family should have helped him. Too late now so I hope people that have this problem seek the help they need. I am just glad the SBPD handled this the way they did. We need to take back our town and get ris of the thugs and scum.. Thank you SBPD keep up the good work.

Posted by: Don Location: Indiana on Jul 27, 2008 at 04:46 PM
As an instructor in Physical Tactics at the Indiana Law Enforcement Academy I have never trained or told officers that they should first attempt to disarm a suspect that has a knife with a baton. Deadly force can be used when there is a threat of serious bodily injury or death did you read that just not death. These officers whether rookies or veterans did exactly what they were trained to do.Good Job SBPD

Posted by: SG Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 04:43 PM
Ed.G. What does your ludicrous comments have to do with anything. Before I start my commentary I have a Bachelors degree, but don't feel I am qualified to be the Chief of Police nor do I have the desire. With that said I have worked with Darryl Boykins for in excess of twenty years. He has risked his life on numerous occasions for this city and it's citizens. He is honest and full of integrity. He has made sacrifices for his career and still does. Being the Chief of Police in this city is a 24 hour a day 7 day a week job. You can't get integrity and honesty from Harvard, Notre Dame, Yale etc. This society is full of dishonest crooks who graduated from these institutions. Ed.G. your comments were insensitive and ignorant. You need more education, start with ethics.

Posted by: Anon Location: Fed Up on Jul 27, 2008 at 03:56 PM
Wow, I guy chose to do wrong and you're upset with SBPD and claiming to be Christians? Wait, you are those "holier than thou" Christians, aren't you? Well, when the begin reducing the police force and trash moves into & starts taking over YOUR nice little neighborhood bubble, we'll see how "Christian" you are (there is right vs. wrong - as a Christian, I always support those who are trying to do RIGHT and not those who choose to do wrong). SBPD, I beg you to PLEASE keep the filthy scumbags away from this side of town. The Maple Lane area used to be a nice place where I felt safe and no longer do after 7 years. If I have to shop, I do not frequent Portage stores (WalMart's store is as filthy as the scum that shop there) and spend money I don't have on gas to get to Grape/Main in Mishawaka. I feel for the victim's family but geesh already -he CHOSE his own demise! I remember a time when we respected those in authority-he did not and you aren't either!

Posted by: joe Location: there on Jul 27, 2008 at 03:50 PM
Most of you people are sick! Yeah, let's celebrate death??? Sick, sick, sick... all of you.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 27, 2008 at 02:31 PM
That could have been my wife working as a teller at that bank, or standing in line at that bank. Brandished a weapon; didn't brandish a weapon, either way I'd celebrate shooting him multiple times in the chest. With cake. With plenty of icing.

Posted by: eh Location: mi on Jul 27, 2008 at 02:27 PM
chad, you are by far a complete IDIOTIC MORON!!!!! yes i AM a christian. so the cops wasted some low life who would have done this crime again and again until he got caught. A huge thanks to the S.B.P.D. for cappin this low life. you just saved the taxpayers a bunch of money. keep up the good work. GOD deserves all capital letters and i'm sure a vast majority of people will agree.

Posted by: John T. Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 02:22 PM
Okay now that this story is three days ols can we get on with something good? What had to be done was done. Everyone here has there point of view and maybe this will stop a few of the others who think this is a quick way to getting a few bucks. Right or wrong robbing and stealing are just wrong. If we don't stand up and stop the wrong it will just keep on going and going. Let's get a backbone and do something about it. It's just as much as our problem as the police. If you see something wrong do the right thing and call it in.

Posted by: Robert Location: Florida on Jul 27, 2008 at 01:46 PM
Has anyone thought of the possibility that the suspect knew if caught, he would be going to jail. He may have decided in his possition in life to commit suicide by police. He may have wanted to be shot to death to avoid the outcome of his stupid actions. We will never know now.

Posted by: max Location: mishawaka on Jul 27, 2008 at 01:16 PM
I think the SBPD did a great job. Keep up the good work and get more of these idiots off the street.

Posted by: Proud SBPD on Jul 27, 2008 at 01:02 PM
To Chuck, I am glad you are retired, you'd be a pi** poor cop to work with.

Posted by: Susan Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 12:54 PM
I commend and want to thank the SBPD for the work they did in this incident and what they do for us everyday. They face many obstacles and dangerous people all the time. Now to friends of the robber, did you ever question where he was getting money (this wasn't his 1st robbery)? Probably not by working. Did you do anything to make him stop or turn him in? Probably not, that would be snitching. You enabled him and in my book you are just as bad for society as he was. Stop the 'don't ask, don't tell' mentality and things may get better around here. Once again thank you the SBPD for removing one threat to our community and I am glad you went home to your family safe and sound!

Posted by: Been There on Jul 27, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Good JOB SBPD! My thoughts are with you. You people that are bashing the officers involved, I wonder if you have the COURAGE to put on that uniform?

Posted by: Reality Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Chuck- try following along with the story. You said, "Listen to EYE Witness! "He ran up the hill and turned and went other way and I heard bobaboombaboomboomboom!!!!!" NOT BACK AT OFFICERS!!! OTHER WAY!!!!" NOWWWW.. if you were PAYING ATTENTION he was running AWAY from officers once he left the bank, with officers giving chase. In geometry this path would be 2 parallel lines running in the SAME DIRECTION. As you quote witnesses, he TURNED AND WENT THE OTHER WAY. Unfortunately there is not a Crayola or Magna-Doodle font for me to help you through this, so I'll try and type slow- if he was running in the 'same' direction as the officers, and then 'turned and ran the OTHER way', which direction do you think he'd be heading? 5th graders help him out.. yes, he'd be running DIRECTLY TOWARDS the officers! It's morons like you Chuck- and you're clearly not alone here in this comment section- that make up the juries in court that end up letting career felons off the hook. Stay in school kids!

Posted by: Brandon Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 09:39 AM
Do you actually think that when a cop is dealing with anyone thats pulling a deadly weapon on them in that split second the instinct of self defense they are going to say " let me think taser or gun, oh I wonder." You have a split second to decide how your going to save your life. Good job south bend police. Now for thise who think that this robbers death is just as big as a police officer dying. Police takes a life to save a life. Now the robbers, murderers, and so forth there lifes are takin because they are trying to take the life of others. How is that just as big as a police officer getting killed?

Posted by: CRE Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 09:25 AM
To Chad and John... what does being a Christian have to do with anything??? I think society is just getting tired of people committing crimes and not being punished. I am not a Christian, but I know that the officers were completely justified in acting as they did. They were attacked with a lethal weapon and acted accordingly. Also, who cares how much money he stole, that's not the issue. He attempted to kill our police officers. That is the real issue. Yeah, so lets blame the Christians...

Posted by: Mark Location: stevensville on Jul 27, 2008 at 09:04 AM
with the SBPD stoping this bank robber, it might other think befor they try to rob a bank. Police are alway wrong if they shoot or if they do not. So all you SBPD and other keep doing what you do and keep us all safe.

Posted by: WOW Location: LaPorte on Jul 27, 2008 at 08:50 AM
I'm surprised that all the morons who suggested they taser him or use there baton on him didn't also suggest they throw their "stop sticks" at him.

Posted by: jim Location: dowagiac on Jul 27, 2008 at 08:40 AM
If more criminals new they would meet with this action from police. They would think twice about doing the crime. Besides this saves the tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars of prosectuting and incarcerating costs. The prison system in the United States needs revamped. It used to be a punishment, now its just public housing that we are paying BIG money for.

Posted by: Tim Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 08:35 AM
with the way things are now we as a cumminity should except to see more robberys not just of banks but into our homes. If the police do there jobs just like they did this time mabe the bad guy's will think about doing this......good jod sbpd!!!!

Posted by: DB Location: NE Indiana on Jul 27, 2008 at 08:24 AM
Tom...sorry about your friend, but chemical imbalance or not, he knew right from wrong, period. He had no right to put those tellers through such a traumatic experience. Once was bad enough, but that many times and he got what he had coming. Don't be so selfish...think about all of the others he impacted so negatively...you can't go around bullying people forever and taking what is NOT yours. Again, I am sorry for your loss and for the family.

Posted by: JP Location: River Park on Jul 27, 2008 at 08:23 AM
Thank you for a job well done, South Bend police officers....I am grateful for your service!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 05:55 AM
I can't understand how anyone could be upset with the outcome of what this thug decided to do! If this was my son or husband, I would be heartbroken to know they chose this way of life and I would be so ashamed of them! To all those who agree with the actions of the SBPD I suggest you make a donation to Crimestoppers or any Policeman's fund! All those defending this lazy low life thug maybe you can make a donation to cover the cost of his funeral! Yes, I said lazy because there is no excuse for leading a life of crime other than you're too lazy to get a real job like the rest of the honest, hard working people of this community!! Gee, I just can't imagine what life would be without all these criminals robbing, stealing and murdering people! Enough is enough! Let's take back our community from these low lifes and make it a safe place that we can all enjoy, support your local police!

Posted by: FFEMT Location: Elkhart on Jul 27, 2008 at 04:33 AM
Another crook bites the dust... and another crook bites and another crook bites and another crook bites the dust. Justice the ole fashion way. WTG!!!

Posted by: Another Cop Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 03:27 AM
Correction, it should read....This man MADE that choice thus having no respect for the public, law, or law enforcement. A person can lunge with a knife and cause a fatal wound faster than an officer could draw a weapon.Taser probes could have been cut rendering it useless...

Posted by: Another cop Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 03:22 AM
...Now you have a useless piece of plastic in your hand while the suspect still has a leathal weapon. Now what, throw it him and run the other way. Police are trained to protect. Yes that includes the suspect as well. Deadly force is not an issue until the suspect makes it one. Whether or not some of you believe a knife is not considered a real danger, think again. Again officers are trained to match force with force then go one step above if needed. There is nothing higher than deadly force. The suspect esculated the force continum and the officer followed the suspects decision as trained and expected. Finally, just because the money was insured does not mean the decision should have been different. Yourself, homes, cars, and personal property are all insured one way or another. What your saying is if it is insured then let them get away with it and the insurance company will just cover it. Thats just plane ignorance!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 27, 2008 at 03:00 AM
This isn't blood lust. I think this glee represents a tension people are feeling because you can't take your kids to the Mall without seeing a ghettotard male holding themselves, or a total twit pounding our skulls with pulsating speakers in a car they're apparently having no trouble filling with gas, or kids and people feeling free to be as rude as they want to be and no one can do anything about it and if you do, you are the bad guy. If neighbors are loud and obnoxious, your only option is to move out. The authorities aren't interested unless everyone on the block complains for 12 years. If that was your wife working at the bank that was robbed, who cares. In short, things are turned around; backward, and we're stressed and tensed up and when one of society's dangerous people gets blown away instead of rewarded and granted a sainthood, we feel short, sharp relief. We want to celebrate. Maybe it's a sign of things to come. Probably not, but oh, how we're dreaming of that day.

Posted by: Another Cop Location: South Bend on Jul 27, 2008 at 02:13 AM
Good Job to the SBPD Officer! A hard choice to make in the few seconds you have to make it. It was the right choice. As for all the "should of" and "could of" people out there such as Chad or Common Sense. There is NO such thing as shoot to wound, period. Even in the military. A shot in the leg or arm could be just as fatal as a shot to the chest. Refer to any of the officers killed in this area. None were directly shot in the chest. As for the use of a taser and/or trying to disarm the suspect. Remember that the officers gave pursuit first in trying to apprehend not harm. This with the intentions of "arresting" him. He is the one that escalated the situation not the officers. Once he was in the open with no where to go or hide he turned on them. This man the choice thus having no respect for the public, law, or law enforcement. A person can lunge with a knife and cause a fatal wound faster than an officer could draw a weapon.Taser probes could have been cut rendering it useless...

Posted by: Po-Po on Jul 27, 2008 at 02:02 AM
Shoot to wound? Ya this would go over well, In this liberal county. Those Officers would be sued the rest of there lives, for harming a poor old bank robber! And "Ashley" wake up sweety your not in Kansas anymore! Lets give you a gun and a taser, and throw you in a lot, with a nut holding a knife, and see what you do! Job well done S.B.P.D!

Posted by: Pastor on Jul 27, 2008 at 01:45 AM
Hey "Chad" the robber threatened the lives of bank tellers, and police officers. The next time Police are put in this situation, why dont you just jump on in and save the day. See if you have the guts to face a man with a knife or any other weapon. some "christian" you are by judging these Officers. Last time i checked, there is nothing in the bible about not defending yourself. And where you there? Did you experiance the same emotions, and fear these officer did? Im certain you did not! To the Police Officers involved, may GOD BLESS YOU!!! Please keep doing your job, No matter what hateful comments may follow, You are all heros! Thank you so much for your choosen career!!

Posted by: S Location: South Bend NW SIDE on Jul 27, 2008 at 01:42 AM
TO: This solves nothing......do you think it's fair that our (I am assuming you work) tax dollars will pay for another animal to "to the time for the crime". Give me a freakin break.. There are TOOOOO many already we are paying for and with the economy as it is I'll bet their cable, water, food supply, ect.. isn't going to run out.. is yours?? I know as a working citizen I've had to cut back on certain things to make ends meet. Do the thugs in jail or prison have to worry about it (economy), hell no....we are paying their way to their freedom to &*$#* up again. Sucks some of us have to pay student loans for an education but I know some in prison are getting an education for FREE.... thanks to YOU and ME. WAKE UP!!

Posted by: GJ on Jul 27, 2008 at 01:27 AM
If you come at me with a knife,pepper spray, or any other weapon than would threaten my life. Make no mistake, I would take your life, before I would lose mine. I work for a living, and was raised to belive that stealing was wrong. To make a threat to the bank employees, and the Policemen was a cowardly act. I feel the Officers made the right choice. They to have families, that wait for them to come home after work. Everyone is so quick to offer up a different ending, or what these braves Officers should have done, But truth be told, these officers did a great job. Why should they have lost they're lifes? They are not the ones who threatened the lives of innocent people, by robbing a bank. Im very proud to have such honorable Officers protecting me. Thanks to all Police Officers. You are truly American Superheros!!!....And "Laporte Cop" Turn in your badge...if you even are a cop...your a loser!

Posted by: Proud SBPD on Jul 27, 2008 at 01:20 AM
To Laporte Cop, you couldn't carry the jock strap of a real cop.

Posted by: stew Location: GOSHEN on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:38 PM
IF A MAN CAME RUNNING AT ME WITH A KNIFE YES I WOULD PULL A GUN AND TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM

Posted by: Chuck RETIRED Officer Location: Chicago!!! on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:22 PM
I agree with Laporte Cop! Lets all bite our tonques until we have the facts? This same bank has been robbed 7 times in a year! They did NOT have to KILL him? They were NOT prepared for this because they killed him! He ran past them first time without a knife or hurting anyone? He then ran a LONG way before turning to fight??? Why not taser him WAY BEFORE he turned to fight? Listen to EYE Witness! "He ran up the hill and turned and went other way and I heard bobaboombaboomboomboom!!!!!" NOT BACK AT OFFICERS!!! OTHER WAY!!!! I heard episode on scanner and rookie female SHOOTER definately lost her composier!!! That was obvious. It is reported there was at least 7-10 gunshots from 2 officers? 2 or 3 OK BUT NOT 7-10????????????????? Brian has paid for his crime IN FULL..... Waiting for more FACTS!.........

Posted by: Robin Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Chad Before you go putting Christians down for responding favorably to the decision of these officers, and stating that the officers have sinned against God, maybe you better do a little studying of the bible, because the Commandment is “though shall not kill” but that does not apply to war, and these officers are soldiers fighting a war. The bible actually says “You shall not murder” (Exodus 20:13). Murder-“the intentional, premeditated killing of another person with malice.” In 1 Samuel 15:3; Joshua 4:13 God ordered the Israelites to go to war with other nations. Romans 3:10-18- in a war filled with sinful people war is inevitable. Deuteronomy 20:16-17, “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them--.....as the LORD your God has commanded you.” The commandments also say "thow shall not steal". I think its ironic this ended on the property of a church, God has made judgment

Posted by: Robin Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:59 PM
" Justin Location: South Bend How should I react when a police officer comes into my "kill zone" with his deadly firearm?" First the officer has a right to his "kill zone" because of his job, you have no right to even claim one against an officer. "Maybe I then will be justified to kill as well. The death of this man is just as tragic as the death of a cop." You are so wrong, the cop didnt wake up that morning and decide Im going to go shoot so and so, this guy woke up and decided to rob a bank, again, and then pull a knife on officers, as they were doing their job to stop him, they were justified. The difference is the cops were doing their job, this guy had a choice not do what he did and made the wrong choice and is now paying the price, no wrong, now his family is paying the price for him, having to deal with his shame.

Posted by: stay at home mom Location: south bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:18 PM
It doesn't matter how much money you steal from a bank- it is a federal offence. This guy made this decision on his own, no one forced him. I'm sorry he died, but being a former bank teller, He brought this upon himself.

Posted by: Mr. Sarcasm on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:37 PM
"LaPorte Cop" is right. Attention all police officers. From now on, it is mandated that before any police officer can arm their gun, they must fill out in triplicate the gun loading form. Having done that, you must write a 1000 word essay explaining why you feel it necessary to fire your gun, what other options you decided to not use and what the ramifications would be if you didn't fire your gun. These must be filed with your immediate supervisor before you can use your respective guns. How that, "LaPorte Cop"? Will that solve everything?

Posted by: A REAL Police Officer Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:32 PM
To the LaPorte Cop- Trained to take a knife away with a baton??- and you tried to make it a race issue?? A real police officer can spot BS a mile away. Not even a good attempt. You have no common sense.

Posted by: WMB on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:10 PM
Such an unfortunate situation, all around. My heart goes out to not only the officers involved in the altercation, but also the family of the perpetrator. While I have difficulty mustering sympathy for the robber, I have quite a bit for his family. To have lost a loved one in such a violent and public manner must be excruciatingly painful for them.

Posted by: B Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:00 PM
Have any of you, who are saying they should have used a taser or not shot to kill, ever tried to taser a mad man with a knife? Think about it, he's trying real hard to kill you, do you think he's going to let you get close enough? Or, lets say they should have shot him in the leg (as one writer put), have you ever tried to shoot somthing that small while it's moving? You HAVE to shoot for the largest area otherwise you're just wasting bullets. To John: I'm so sorry you feel the way you do about Christians and our fine police officers. I'm a Christian, I'm sorry this guy made this choice and paid the ultimate price for it but it was his choice, the police didn't force him to rob the bank and then pull the knife. They were protecting us and themselves. God will take care of him now, if he was "chemically imbalanced" as one writer suggested, then I'm sure God will give him grace...we can only hope. But I, for one, am always proud of our men in blue. Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Friend of Police Location: Lakeville on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:00 PM
I have to say good job guys!!!! You had to do what needed to be done. The guy would still be here if he would of not robbed the bank. People for get why he was shot and killed. Its bull that people are sticking up for this guy, what if he would of killed one of our policeman then what. With the way it happens he would of been sitting in the county jail or would have been let go. Police are risking there lives everyday and the funny thinds are when you hear bad mouthing about the police its the people bad mouthing that one day will need there help. So for the people bad mouthing you better stop and think what you are doing or saying.... SO TO OUR POLICE YOU MEN AND WOMEN ARE DOING A HELL OF A JOB AND KEEP IT UP.. THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING US

Posted by: A COP on Jul 26, 2008 at 08:54 PM
Glad to see a good majority of you writing in this column support the decision that was made by these fine officers. On another note, I believe all of you tax paying law abiding citizens should exercise your right to carry weapons. We as police officers are usually reactive when violent crimes are committed and we can't be there to help you all the time because we are dealing with other crimes. I am tired of seeing innocent people and businesses victimized by thugs in this city. Take the city back! If the judges don't want to handle their own business, then you handle yours.

Posted by: Howard Location: Denver, IN on Jul 26, 2008 at 08:17 PM
The Apostle Paul said of the authority that "he beareth not the sword in vain" (Romans 13:4). This confirms that immediate and present danger can lead to the bearing of the sword. We pay our law enforcement authorities to use their best judgment. If our country defies God in His teaching that we should use capital punishment, then this becomes the next best and justifiable means of thwarting one's threat of the safety of anyone.

Posted by: Mychael Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 08:17 PM
Police have an extremely difficult job and they often go unrecignized for the real heroism which often goes unnoticed, but, you can never take the loss of a life lightly, even bank robbers have souls. R.I.P.

Posted by: chad Location: elkhart on Jul 26, 2008 at 07:55 PM
i guarantee that 90 percent of you folks who are cheering this guys death think your christian, and that your going straight to heaven when you die. which is worse? to break a law made by men, or to sin against god? we've all sinned against god right? so none of us deserve his mercy correct? well then how can you obtain his mercy if you show mercy to none? i say cheering somebodies death is the opposite of christianity. cheering somebodies death is hate. period. this guy made an idiotic decision. we have all made idiotic decisions. he did not deserve to be killed for it. he stole money from fat cat bankers that are selling our nation to the chinese. the peoples money was insured. he deserved to go to jail. he deserved a fair trial. maybe he could have changed his life around in jail. now he's dead. now he'll never get that chance. hate me if you want, but i say if you shoot a man multiple times in the chest because he has a knife, it makes you a murderer, not a hero.

Posted by: Larry Location: Sb on Jul 26, 2008 at 07:18 PM
LaPorte cop @ 1:26pm..I highly doubt you are a cop. More than likely a friend or relative of poor deceased Brian. "Cops are trained to take a knife from a suspect using a baton?" What are you smoking? When confronted with a suspect with a knife, who is attacking, and within 21 feet, the cops are trained to shoot to stop the attackers aggression. Plain and simple. You should stop watching Chuck Norris in "Walker Texas Ranger". It's not based on reality in case you didn't know. And from what I understand Brian was dumb enough to wear the same clothes and hat he wore when he robbed the same bank a week earlier. Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: Anon Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 07:16 PM
To Laporte Cop the facts are this is realy getting bad here in South Bend and he robbed a bank and pulled out a knife on Police Officers. Robbing a bank is totally wrong so I guess he got what he derserved. Maybe not to die but these Judges here in South Bend would just slap him on the hand and he would be free in 8 years. This has got to stop before an innocent person gets killed...... I live on the side of town this happened and I am getting scared. I do not want to live like this with being afraid to go out alone. This low lives need a wake up call that is for sure and maybe this will make the others think twice. It is rough right now in this country but robbing a bank is not the way to get through these times. So I say thank you South Bend Police Department! Now he will not get a 3rd time to rob anyone.

Posted by: H on Jul 26, 2008 at 06:43 PM
To Ed G: Hilarious!!! To Ashley from Michigan City: I was raised in a family that honored hard work and taught me that crime is wrong so this could not and would not EVER happen to any family member of mine. We work for the things that we have and robbing a bank is simply out of the question. I am sorry that your family was not taught the same. Maybe you can start with your kids.

Posted by: Common Sense Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 06:34 PM
To "Victims Sons Stepdad from Indy" that said when he was deploted in Iraq and when confronted with a knife would 1st use "Tasers, dogs, or shoot to wound before you shoot to kill was our ROE. As much as I didn't care for my stepson's dad, this was too much. I wore vests in Iraq. I and my Soldiers practiced better judgment than this!" all I can say is this- find me a soldier that believes the brass in Washington have an ounce of consideration for the soldiers lives out there "doing it" when they set the ROE in place. All respect for the soldiers aside, no one ever said those in military command were very bright, esp. the soldiers "in the s***" living it. Because most progressive police agencies ACROSS THE US adopt these same policies as SBPD and ARE COMMANDED BY THEIR POLICIES TO USE DEADLY FORCE when a soldier wouldn't doesn't mean they're wrong. Perhaps it means police agencies use a little common sense when dealing with people intent on killing them. At lease you've got your GED now.

Posted by: Justin Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 06:27 PM
How should I react when a police officer comes into my "kill zone" with his deadly firearm? Maybe I then will be justified to kill as well. The death of this man is just as tragic as the death of a cop.

Posted by: South Bend Cop Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 06:25 PM
LaPorte Cop- I suspect you're likely a volunteer of some sort that they allow to wear a similar uniform and direct traffic for special events. Contrary to your post, police are NOT trained to disarm someone armed with a knife using a baton. In fact, most modern day officers don't even bother to carry a baton anymore with the inception of tasers. Regardless, "if" you were a cop you would know that the force continum dictates that you meet the level of force against you "plus 1". Obviously, a knife is a lethal weapon, so a baton or taser would be inappropriate and for either officer to use would be tantamount to derelection of duty and signs of an untrained and unfit for duty officer, needing remedial training before being allowed to service calls. So- go ahead and slip in your "COPS- Too Hot for TV Vol. 17" DVD and enjoy your family size bag of Cheetos while real cops continue to deal with the bottom feeders that think nothing of robbing people and challenging cops with deadly force.

Posted by: Jerry Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 06:23 PM
To the officers involved in the shooting I say "good job". We expect our police officers to stop crime when they see it and this is exactly what these two officers did. To those who say "But he only had a knife" I say yes....that's true, a knife that he was trying very hard to kill these officers with. I suspect that most people if ever confronted with such a situation would gladly use a bazooka to save their own lives if that was all that was available. It wasn't a chess game....it was real life and required immediate response with no time for debating whether this guy could be calmed down and made to meekly surrender and say he was sorry.

Posted by: Robin Location: Southbend on Jul 26, 2008 at 06:11 PM
LaPorte Cop- I really dont believe you are a cop at all,I dont know anyone especially a cop, that would waste a second to decide his fate, by choosing what weapon to use. I believe IF YOU ARE A COP you would use the quickest method available to save your life. I also beleive you wouldnt be questioning the race of the officers. They also do have proof that this person robbed this bank as he was caught in the act, whether he was guilty of the previous robbery has no meaning here, but IF YOU ARE A COP you would also know that banks have video cameras and are able to match identities. Maybe that was the delay in reporting, maybe they were gettin their facts. As the cop you claim to be, would it really matter or would you even be thinking while being charged at with a knife whether or not he robbed the bank last week.NO you would act on the incident at this moment. You are NO COP.

Posted by: Anon Location: south Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:53 PM
Question for SBPD- If you wre chasing him it would imply he was running away from you, why didn't you tase him then, why wait util he turned and got into your "kill zone". It would seem if you were trying to stop him you would have tased him as he was running AWAY from you as SBPD claim. Why wait until he turned and let him get that close. Just a thought

Posted by: Mitch Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:51 PM
LaPorte officer...it is easy to see why your department is the way it is. As if you guys weren't in the news enough already. The officer already had his gun drawn..standard procedure. He is not going to holster his gun and get out his baton...if he even carries one anymore. Get out of Mayberry and get into real life. Sheriff Andy retired.

Posted by: Officer on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:43 PM
YOU DO NOT CONFRONT LETHAL WITH NON-LETHAL! When someone is coming at you with a 10 inch knife, you do not pull a Taser out! You do not try and use pepper spray (which the Tasers replaced BTW), and we don't know special "ninja knife disarm techniques"! This is precisely the type of situation we are given handguns. Anyone who thinks any different than this, please stop breeding. This city has enough idiots!

Posted by: Anon Thinker Location: south Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:42 PM
I am not defending this criminals actions nor am I saying what SBPD was wrong. But to PROUD SBPD, you are so arrogant. You want to make sure everyone knows this guy was scum for robbing a bank. Now defend the 4 Police Officers who have been charged criminally in Federal court, 2 or 3 were SBPD. One especially for mortgage Fraud. He got alot more than $500.00. By your standards they are scum and should be shot too. Of course they didn't use a knife, they just hid behind their badges. I've always said there is nothing worse than a criminal who hides behind his badge and uses the law to protect him. At least this guy took it all the way. He didn't have a badge to legally steal from a bank. YOU ARE SUCH A COWBOY!!!

Posted by: Jake Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:15 PM
Correct split second decision. When a criminal is running at you with a knife you don't have time to reholster your gun and pull out a taser so shoot until they are no longer a threat. Thank you SBPD

Posted by: anon Location: indiana on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:14 PM
If I were threatened with a knife and had either a taser and a gun, gee, my right to use the gun would be clear, I would use it. Knife wielder chose his own fate.

Posted by: Erin Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:11 PM
All of you asking why these officers did not use a taser clearly do not understand how quickly a situation like this escalates. This man came at the officers with a deadly weapon. Don't you think they were screaming at him to drop the weapon? To those who want to question their training. If these officers were NOT trained to show restraint, they would justifiably shoot someone on every shift. If they are able, they prefer to disarm a suspect caught with a weapon. STOP blaming the officers for someone else's bad decision. We are so lacking personal responsibility in this country and people like John and Mishawaka Man are part of the problem. I am guessing many of the anti-police comments are from individuals enjoying government housing, welfare, etc. You don't believe you are responsible for your behavior or choices. As for the type of critical thought required by these officers, especially in a matter of seconds to make a life or death decision, well, it is far beyond your purview!

Posted by: MIKE Location: SOUTH BEND on Jul 26, 2008 at 03:36 PM
LOOKS LIKE THE DAYS OF BONNIE AND CLYDE ARE BACK. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANSE WAS MURDER IS EXCESSIVE FOR THE CRIME. IF THE ROBBER WOULD OF BEEN APREHENDED RATHER THAN SHOT TO DEATH DO YOU THINK ANY COURT WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM THE DEATH PENALTY? COPS WHERE IS ALL THE HIGH TECH STUFF YOU SHOW OFF ON TV LIKE STUN GUNS AND TRAINED DOGS OR SHOOT IN THE LEG OR ARM. COPS WATCH TO MUCH TV AND CANT WAIT TO GET THE GUN OUT AND USE IT. AFTER ALL THAT POCKET KNIFE MAY HAVE POKED A HOLE IN THE COPS BULLIT PROOF VEST. PEOPLE DRIVE OFF FROM MY STORE WITHOUT PAYING FOR GAS AND THE COUNTY COPS WON'T EVEN COME OUT. ISNT THAT ROBBERY ALSO? I WOULD LIKE MY MONEY BACK ALSO BUT KILLING IS A BIT EXCESSIVE. NEXT YOU MAY GET 10 YEARS FOR SPEEDING IN SOUTH BEND. GOOD JOB COP (JUDGE JURRY AND EXECUTIONER)

Posted by: bd Location: mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Thank you SBPD for a job well done!

Posted by: Me Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 03:16 PM
Good!!! One less SCUM on the streets and one less SCUM our worthless Judges can realease back on the streets!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2008 at 03:08 PM
To EASTSIDE and others like your opinion: I have had my home broke into three times for no apparent reason other than it is a house that sits a little off of a county road back in a secluded area of homes which makes for an easy target. If I could have caught the guys I would have definitely shot each one of them. Maybe we as citizens are sick and tired of the crime. There are enough jobs to go around. Maybe a person won't work for as much as he thinks he's worth, but he can get a job and pay bills like the rest of us. This guy had no excuse! Most of us taxpayers are tired of paying for these guys to continue their lives of crime at our expense. Who do you think pays the bill? We all do! We need to give the death penalty to more criminals. Have you got a better solution? Nothing else so far seems to be working. America is far to leinient on crime. Where has it got us; more crime!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: SB on Jul 26, 2008 at 03:07 PM
'Kill zone,’ had no choice but to shoot. If it is me, or the suspect, then I will not be thinging of them. I thing of ME FIRST..In my Kill zone...All the SBPD are home SAFE, TY.

Posted by: Ann Location: Elkhart on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:52 PM
I read today that in Britain where it is illegal to have guns, one person dies each week from knives used as deadly weapons. I think this was more than justified. Let's see, someone robs a bank, runs from the police and then tries to attack them with a deadly weapon (knife). What's the argument again? Who can possibly think shooting this guy was the wrong thing to do? Only another criminal who doesn't want to get shot for doing the same thing!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:38 PM
good job to all of the police officers.

Posted by: Chaz Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:37 PM
I am strongly anti-death penalty and in general a pacifist. That being said, assumign things happened the way it's reported, I have no problem with what happened. The man stole, chose to attack the officers and made them defend themselves. Had he simply surrendered, this would have ended much differently. I'm certainly not goign to second guess the cops as it was their life on the line and not mine. I hope that the family of the deceased and the police involved all can find peace and accpetance of what happened. I'm sure it wouldn't be easy living with killing someone, nor is the loss of a realtive.

Posted by: LaPorte Cop Location: Laporte on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:24 PM
How many shots were fired? 7-10??? WHAT? What color were the shooting officers? ALL cops are trained to take a knife from a suspect with a baton? ROUTINE! I find it difficult to hear OTHER OFFICERS claim he was guilty of all these other robberies when they really have NO clue??? Convenient for THEIR recordkeeping BUT not truthful based on any facts... His family has known since yesterday afternoon! Why the delay is release of info???? Lastly the facts will prove whether he was the last week robber also??? Lets wait for these facts BEFORE we crucify him and his family! I am NOT sticking up for anyone! I just want the facts FIRST! Before I comment! Brian has seemed to pay the Ultimate price for his wrong-doing! That is a fact!

Posted by: Doug Location: Granger on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Well, my first comments were not politically correct enough for posting so i'll sum it up. Deadly force was probably not needed here, but I have no prob with the outcome. Maybe a little less politically correct law enforcment is just what our society needs. Whatever we've been doing does'nt seem to work. Our society can not exist without these officers, wheter we agree with everything they do or not. Hope this gets posted!

Posted by: mark on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:02 PM
to all the whiners who say the cops went too far, for whatever reason, he, broke the law, robbed a bank and then went after the police with a weapon. if he killed one of you family on the way, would your opionion change? they did what need to be done and kudos to all involved to get this moron thief off the streets. sucks for his family, but they didn't choose the path for him. he did it all alone.

Posted by: mark on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:55 PM
good for them.

Posted by: Even Christians can use logic... on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Wow, anyone criticizing the cops, or those who are applauding the cops, is just stupid. Those men were in a serious situation and dealing with a dangerous sociopath. Are you suggesting the police shouldn't protect you if a mugger pulls a knife and takes whatever you have in your wallet right now? Or would you feel deserving of protection even if all you happened to be carrying was a few bucks? After all, robbery is robbery, no matter the "take". Why endanger a dog, or risk letting the creep wound an officer then get into a crowded Walmart and take hostages, when one shot will stop him? Only an idiot would come up with that. As for the guy claiming to stepparent the criminals kid-if you can't come up with "sorry, but actions have consequences and he made his choices" then you aren't fit to be a parent. The tellers and officers didn't have stop to ask his chemical balance-it's irrelevant. A lot of sick people DON'T rob banks, so find a new excuse to hide behind. Congratulations SBPD!

Posted by: LP RES Location: RP on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:41 PM
To Tom (his best friend): I'm sure you were probably getting some of the money that he stole several times for your "chemical imbalance" too! LOL! moron. Guess he's not your friend anymore. great job SBPD!! well done.

Posted by: T Gaskill on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:38 PM
When I become a police officer, and just to make you morons happy. I will let a low life loser like this make the first move. Then, I'll do my job. Then, you idiots will be calling me a hero

Posted by: Steve-O on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:34 PM
Hey KG. Shut your big trap. If you don't like our comments, stay the ---- out of here. This is the best site in the Midwest. You are a loser and You are the MORON

Posted by: Eric Location: SB on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:33 PM
The only thing more stupid then this criminal knowingly making the choices he did that led to his own demise: The idiots that defend the criminal and condemn the Police for doing the right thing. If you idiots had an idealistic majority it would surely be the demise of our great country. Remember "Everyone makes this world a better place. Some while they are alive, and others only when they die". I love it when idiots to make the world better. God Bless America

Posted by: T Gaskill on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:21 PM
I cannot wait until i become a police officer. i will do what my boys did here. i will shoot.

Posted by: Disturbed Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Anon @ 12:41 said it best..It's all about choices

Posted by: tigger Location: south bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:05 PM
Do you think a k9 is at the scene for every call? They chased him FROM THE BANK. He chose to pull the knife on the officers. I'm tired of burying our cops. Im tired of the crime. Im tired of our mayor sittin in his cushioned chair while our guys are trying to get the criminals while the mayor says our crime is down..Im sorry the robber is dead, but glad that no officer was hurt. If any of you think a cop wants to kill someone your wrong, not even in self defense...they aren't all bad ya know, some are actually good guys. Thank you SBPD btw, had someone been hurt in the bank and the officers not shot, some of you would still be blaming the cops for that too. NO matter what, some will never be happy

Posted by: Anon Location: S. Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 12:41 PM
To all those bashing the cops for doing their job (which is protecting YOU), get a clue! Since he robbed the bank before, he had more than a couple hundred dollars (even more if he robbed other banks). The robber was in the wrong by ALL counts so don't blame SBPD, his upbringing or his financial situation for his own CHOICES. Stop protecting the guilty, condemning the innocent and supporting the criminals back with open arms into this city for a change! If the robber never CHOSE to rob the bank, if he CHOSE not to pull out a knife then he would be alive today. Now, who's fault was his death again? Get real, compassion only goes so far when you're talking about someone knowingly choosing wrong vs. right!

Posted by: Amused on Jul 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Another person who we don't have to clothe, feed, shelter, educate, and provide medical care to for however long he might have been in the system. Let's use the money we saved and invest it in the SB schools.........sounds like a worth while investment to me! Kudos SBPD

Posted by: Stephen Location: niles on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Well,we can all give our opinions but you would have to of been in the officers shoes to make any judgment to if it was justified. I for one am NOT upset with what has happened...GOOD JOB SBPD and be safe

Posted by: jim Location: SB on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:43 AM
hey John from SB, thats an Interesting theory, he pulled the knife and must have been planning on handing it to the officers when they, the rookie cops as you stated, must have had a bloodlust and shot him for no good reason. Now say something else funny. idiot!!!

Posted by: KG Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:39 AM
While there are some moronic comments on here I'm shocked and surprised (in a good way) at the support for the police and the GROWN up comments. Most of you are right, those officers had to make a split second decision and the reverted to their training. They did exactly what the people they protect pay them to do. I wish the officers well.

Posted by: Fellow SBPD cop on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:39 AM
To all complaining about him getting shot when all he had was a knife. Lets see, he uses a weapon that can kill you, Police are supposed to use something less lethal? I know a lot of people and have been to many demonstrations that show us people that know how to knife fight and can do serious deadly damage to someone. These people who are trained in knife fighting could cut you 5-6 times and before you know it, you are bleeding to death. The only reason some of you got something to say is because you don't like the police and you are mad because we got the upper hand this time. This BANK ROBBER unfortunately lost his life but when you do crimes like this, it catches up with you sooner or later. YOU BROTHERS DID A GOOD JOB and I am sorry this guy put YOU and everyone involved in that situation. Can't wait til you get back on the street with me so that we can catch some more bad guys and continue to protect the good citizens of SOUTH BEND.

Posted by: robin Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Why would some of you question the fact that the SBPD had to shoot this guy, if anyone of you were in a situation as they were you would excersize your right to defend yourself. These Officers risk their lives repeadedly for YOU and me. whether he had a gun or knife doesnt matter, he still came at the officers with intent to kill them, and they had every right to do what they do to defend themselves and everyone else. Aplauding the death of this thug has nothing to do with being a Cristian as someone wrote, and him being innocent until proven guilty as another wrote, he was caught in the act, with the money and the weapon, and his judge was GOD, and justice prevailed. Super job SBPD, dont let these these people discourage you to do your job again if you have to. There is only a small percentage of these idiots that are against you, and they are the ones with something to hide out of fear for arrest themselves.

Posted by: Karen Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:00 AM
To think SBPD and the fire department are looking at all those layoffs while the city of South Bend continues to spend money like crazy expanding the city. This should be a wake up call for those deciding on the cuts. Without brave men and women like these working, how many more thugs will get away with crap like this? Good Job Officers and Thank-You for all you do.

Posted by: Ed G. Location: Ivy Tech South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I'd love to hear about this from Chief Boykins. Has anyone seen the newest Ivy Tech magazine? If not, stop by Ivy Tech and pick one up for hilarious reading- or maybe Boykins has them all framed in his home by now. You'll laugh so much you'll cry. After reading the article on Boykins you'll think he's "The Lord" Jesus Christ. And just wait until you see the candids the photographer took of him. Boykins' poses make him look like he believes he belongs on Mount Rushmore or should have his own Lincoln Monument. I received a BA and a Master's degree, and I'll never see the pay that the "Ivy Tech" educated Boykins receives. Here's one for the Ivy Tech Marketing Department: "Why go to Notre Dame when you can go to Ivy Tech on the taxpayers' money and become an idol in South Bend... Ivy Tech, the Harvard of the Midwest!" Take that one Notre Dame and Grangerians!

Posted by: jeff Location: osceola on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Police are armed with tasers and the somehow pulled there guns instead.....Come on they saw the knife the taser would have done just fine

Posted by: samantha Location: new carlisle on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Why does this story leave out the killing by South Bend Police of unarmed suspect Joseph Hanrath in 2006? WNDU seems to help out whenever a cover-up is needed.

Posted by: No Empathy on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Ok, one thug/thief down. How many more do we need to catch?

Posted by: Issue Person Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:26 AM
What seems amazing are some of the thoughts going through the heads of our citizens. For each person that brings the issue about how much money he stole let me present some facts. Fact ONE: The responding officers were in fact attempting to sit down and talk with this suspect about the amount of money he stole BUT funny thing happened on the way to the interview room - The suspect DECIDED on HIS OWN to turn and ATTEMPT to KILL the responding officers. That makes the crime attempted murder not robbery now. Or maybe he was just attempting to STAB TO WOUND. Fact TWO: Officers are not trained to "shoot to kill" they are trained to "Use the appropraite force necessary to stop the deadly actions of another when faced with those actions". They shot for center mass and did just that. Bullets some times damage and wound and sometimes the damage stops a life. That is NOT the choice an officer makes - physics and biology take effect after the chain of events is STARTED by the aggresor.

Posted by: ABankBranchEmployee Location: Elkhart on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:24 AM
I am appalled at a few of the stupid comments out here. Anonymous from 7/25/08 at 3:26-when a bank is robbed, it is not disclosed to the public or most bank employees for that matter how much money was stolen. So, unless you are directly related or acquainted with someone in the branch or law enforcement, you are not going to obtain that information, and they are not SUPPOSED to disclose that information to anyone! Secondly, if someone stole that money from you, would you just blow it off? I don't think so. It does not matter if the man had a knife or gun. The officers must have had a reason to believe their lives were in danger. To John from South Bend, don't think that everyone on here applauding the SBPD is necessarily christian, because most christians are not judgemental of people. If they are, that's fine. It's irrelevant because stealing/robbing and assault are wrong. Him pulling a knife on police or anyone is considered assault if they had reason to believe harm was coming!

Posted by: Ashley Location: michigan city in on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM
I understand that what this person did was wrong...But fight violence with violence..It just isnt right...To all of you who say he deserved this..Maybe you should rethink it through...Maybe if it was your son,father, brother or friend you would feel different..They didnt have to SHOOT TO KILL...You should never be rewarded for taking another person's life

Posted by: carrie Location: SB on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:00 AM
To SBPD, thank you for the job you do. To often you go unthanked for all you do for the community. I for one am glad that it ended the way it did. Sad he died? No not really. He knew that he was breaking the law when HE chose to rob the bank! To the staff there at the bank I hope you all recover from this alright. I too work at a financial institution and it's something that is always in my mind. It's sad that in this day and age you have to wonder with everyone that comes through the door if they are going to rob you!

Posted by: sik Location: river park on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:56 AM
anonymous on july 25 at 10:25 you bring up a good point i read sopmeone said they havent shot a thug since 1999 but what about the guy in wooden indian that shot polizatto was he not a thug? or do you people only think minorities are only thugs?

Posted by: Mish Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:35 AM
People are forgetting this CRIMINAL DID NOT DIE BECAUSE HE ROBBED A BANK!! SBPD have caught many ROBBERS that were detained without deadly force.Police dont make the decision to kill criminals the criminals make that decision on their own to die.In this case this criminal decided to carry a knife,and to rob the bank,but it was HIS DEADLY decision to turn on officers.IT WAS HIS DECISION NOT THE OFFICERS.The only decision the officers made at that point was to defend themselves and the poss lives of the community.So shame on those of you blaming our fine SBPD officer. To the stepfather of criminals son. Ok so you have to explain to his son how his father died trying to resist and poss take the life of an officer. Maybe now his son has the chance to grow up to obey the law.We the community hope you will teach him right from wrong and he will learn not to rob banks and pull weapons on officers so he does not end up like his father. Great job SBPD for going home alive to your families

Posted by: Dee Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:33 AM
Self-defense, Thank You SBPD .I am glad the police did not get killed.

Posted by: D Location: indiana on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:29 AM
To the guy that was in iraq, who used better judgement lol. I to was in Iraq let me tell you if a suspect did not do what he was told and pretty damn quick, he would not have been able to hear the verbal commands over the gun fire. Homicide bombers did not have guns they did not even have knives but if a person was approaching and did not stop when told to do so. Bye Bye. So which Iraq where you in? Good Job SBPD you did the right thing. God be with you,

Posted by: SBCop on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:22 AM
This thread proves several things- one, you can't please everyone. Two- most citizens are tired of hearing of crime being so out of control and support the police for getting career criminals off the street. This guy was also a suspect in several more bank robberies locally and also in Oxycontin robberies from several area pharmacies. This cleared a lot of cases off the books. And Third- proves that most people have NO idea what is involved in being an officer, espcially with some comments about "showing some restraint". Believe me there should 0year to date- have been at least SIX more that I can easily think of where the officers should have shot a guy (turning on the officer with a gun in hand, for example)- but arrests without shooting someone isn't newsworthy. You little sheep can rest easy because the sheepdogs in blue are out on the line everyday keeping you safe from the wolves. And until you know what its like, save your internet forum comment criticizing the officers.

Posted by: tom Location: LaPorte on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:18 AM
Brian was my best friend! Brian was NOT scum or drug addict, he was a troubled individual with a chemical imbalance! I can't justify what he has done, BUT being shot 7- 10 times is OVERKILL and can't be justified either???!!! Cops have tasers, batons and there was plenty of cops to subdue him with guns??? Cops had him surrounded but couldn't do nothing BUT KILL HIM??? God Bless Brian's family!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:10 AM
Great job SBPD....Yeah lets cut 40 officers...Those of you that make decision better wake up and realize our Police are needed more now thatn ever...and to those of you that bash the Police, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Posted by: c Location: SB on Jul 26, 2008 at 08:51 AM
stupid actions= you pay consequences, he deserved it. Thanks SBPD for getting another felon off the streets and keeping the people safe and keeping the people that are knocking ur actions safe too.

Posted by: joe Location: south bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 08:49 AM
I applaud the SBPD ... I wouldn't want your job in times like this for nothing, these men and women are willing to go the distance for us "WE THE PEOPLE" Thank you !!!! ....

Posted by: William Go Tell the Last Location: Somewhere Else on Jul 26, 2008 at 08:28 AM
WNDU probably won't print this as I seem to be censored, but ludicrus comments below celebrating a man's death and calling to shoot 'em all or shoot first and ask questions later speak for WNDU's ability to discern what should be censored. Do any of you who made it past seventh grade remember the constitution? Do any of you care? This web site's comments section is now officially over the top disgusting.

Posted by: WOW Location: SB on Jul 26, 2008 at 08:14 AM
He has had problems ever since he was in high school. He also had a drug problem and this was not his first run in with the law. A year or so ago, he was held up in his parents house and they had to talk him out. It's too bad at 29 years old he had to die, but the police acted accordingly. Great job SBPD.

Posted by: Proud SBPD on Jul 26, 2008 at 07:51 AM
I am proud of my chosen profession and proud of the men and women I work with on a daily basis. I am also thankful my friends walked away PHYSICALLY unharmed. No one becomes an officer WANTING to take a life but knowing that it might happen. I am sorry this scum made the decision to not be there for his son in the future. He made the decision charging at an officer with a knife. I know these officers well and none are gun happy killers as some would portray, but average every day human beings. All of you armchair quarter backs couldn't do the job of these officers if your lives depended on it.

Posted by: This Solves Nothing on Jul 26, 2008 at 07:42 AM
This mans death will not make criminals think twice before their next crime. Criminals are heartless,respect no one especially them selfs and have no respect for the law. So no shooting this man will not make other criminals think twice. Secondly, if the man only had a knife, and the officers were in a far enough distance away, they should of just brought him down, shooting both his legs maybe. You can not just kill people. I know we all would like to go out and kill all the scum but God's law does not work like that. My friend Joe was shot and killed in Elkhart by a police officer and I will tell you the officer was in the wrong. I'm glad we have good officers, and God Bless them all, but people must remember bad choices are some times made. If this guy was flashing a knife around, and the officers knew it was only a knife, they should back off bring him down,and let him do the time. I know most don't want to spend their hard earned money on them,but that's life. I will prayer for all

Posted by: RN Location: S. Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 07:40 AM
Great work SBPD. The fact that he robbed the bank multiple times and attacked the officers completely justifies what happened. I was one of the nurses who took care of Nick Polizzotto when he was brought in to the ER, and I really don't want to have to do it again. When the officer is being threatened, he needs to protect himeself. John, I am not a Christian, and I am sure many of these other people who agree with me aren't either, so stop being a hater. You make me sick John. And to eastside Joe, don't you think the victim was mean spirited??? He made a choice and paid for his actions.

Posted by: Deadly Force Location: Southside on Jul 26, 2008 at 06:49 AM
Why not just arm the tellers? New rule, you come in with a note that you're robbing the bank....you get shot. end of story. A big message was sent with this one, we're tired of being bullied and robbed by thugs.....its about time that force was racheted up to where its meaningful.

Posted by: about time Location: SB on Jul 26, 2008 at 06:33 AM
it's about time they caught this thief! They think it was the same guy that did all of their recent robberies!! Kudos to 1st source employees and SBPD for getting this loser drug addict off the street!

Posted by: Tim Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 05:34 AM
Let this send a message to potential criminals, if you intend to break the law you put your life in someone elses hands. Thanks South Bend Police for doing your jobs and doing them well.

Posted by: doug Location: granger on Jul 26, 2008 at 05:31 AM
i used to keep a handgun in the house for protection. my wife always said you dont have what it takes to kill someone. i always told her i had no intentions of killing, just wound em to the point that he has to lay there and screem until the police come and hall em away. as Victims son's stepdad said, lethal force prob was not needed in this particular case, and i simpathise with him for his stepson, but, in the end, personaly, could not care less this jerk was DOA. i am not a big fan of the police. i think they treat us all like crap, are stuck up, think they are better than the rest of us, and think that there life is more valuable than ours. i also know society could not exist without them, and am pleased with the way they handled this situation.

Posted by: A Real Man Location: mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 05:23 AM
hey mishawaka "Boy" grow up

Posted by: Sarah Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:38 AM
I think the SBPD did a good thing! What if this man had not been shot? He could of grabbed any citizen and made them a hostage. Or what if next week he robbed the bank again and shot/stabbed an employee.. It was just a matter of time before someone got hurt and I am glad its him and not an innocent person. By the way, they did what they had to do, you mention dogs.. um dogs aren't always right there.. should they of just sat there and waited? Now SBPD just needs to keep doing this and maybe criminals will think twice. Good Job SBPD!!!

Posted by: j Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:20 AM
Anyone who feels that this was excessive force on the part of the police are morons. Let's recap the events here: You choose to rob a bank. You lead police on a foot chase. You refuse to surrender and approach LEO with a knife. You don't see in that chain of events a moment in which this guy forfeited his own life? If this guy had a toy gun would officers have been justified in shooting him? They were in more danger from a knife then a toy gun, no? Last time I checked McDonalds is hiring. Sure, it doesn't pay as well, but you don't get shot by police in the process. This guy cost us enough taxpayer's money already, at least now he isn't taking up space in our prisons.

Posted by: Hey: Posted by: Victims son's stepdad on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:04 AM
Yea, as he was lunging at an Officer with a knife, I am sure they had time to be calling a dog car up. WE are trained to go one UP with Force. Knife=Gun! Not tazer! Not pepper spray (which the Tazer took the place of). I would have done the same thing. Too bad for your step kids. They are better off without him I am sure!

Posted by: Shellie Location: Laporte, IN on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:49 AM
Shame to all of you that want to praise another person's life coming to end.We are not the judge or jury on when it is ok to be happy someones life has ended.To the police officers my prayers are with all of you.My prayers are also with this mans family. I judge no one in what I am sure was a very bad situation.

Posted by: m Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:32 AM
sitting here reading some stupid stuff. he died for 200 dollar, they should use tasers or k9's At the time they did not know it was 200 dollars, but they did know it was a bank robber. not every officer has a k9 and for the taser, it has its place and it was not for this call. Knife is a step above taser and the officers done there job. I feel for the officers knowing they took someones life. but the subject who died made the choices and tried to hurt the officers. so maybe if you dont want something like this to happen maybe the next time get a job instead of robbing a bank. good job South Bend Police Department.

Posted by: Anon Location: S. Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:26 AM
I wondered what was going on when I drove through that way on my way home from work today around 6-ish. Saw the SBPD's recovery unit parked at Meijer. SBPD - thank you for protecting us, please continue to keep this area safer than just down the way! Am sorry for the victim's family - prayers are with you. Glad the bank employees and patrons are all physically OK and heal emotionally quickly.

Posted by: John Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:07 AM
According to the report, "One of the officers was backing up, trying to get out of the attackers 'kill zone,’" What the heck (not my first choice of words), we're such a politically correct society that our LEO's have to make extra, extra, extra sure the bad guys have ill intentions before they use deadly force? This type of mindset will eventually get good people killed. South Bend is a little safer tonight. Good shooting, Thanks.

Posted by: S Location: NW SIDE RESIDENT on Jul 26, 2008 at 12:54 AM
THANK YOU SBPD!! I WAS AT WORK ACROSS THE STREET AND WONDERED WHAT OTHER THUG WAS GOING TO GIVE "OUR SIDE" A BAD NAME, OR BETTER YET, TAKE DOWN SO BEND. THANKS FOR TAKING HIM DOWN, AND KEEP IT GOING THERE ARE MANY MORE TO GET RID OF!! BLESS ALL OF YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE, CELEBRATE!! I KNOW I AM. I WAS GOING TO THE BANK AROUND THAT TIME TO CASH MY CHECK! I'M GLAD I DIDN'T BUT ALSO GLAD YOU WERE THERE AND DID THE RIGHT THING!! GET RID OF THEM ALL, ONE BY ONE!!! KARMA IS A CRAZY THING!

Posted by: Vetran Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 12:49 AM
To the person who knew the suspect and had been in Iraq. I was also in Iraq. We were taught to respond to deadly force with deadly force. If you were trained that your body armor would protect you from a knife you were seriously misinformed. I think you should wait for the facts before you judge that which you were not there to witness. Being in the situations where you had to use ROE (rules of engagement) I would think you would understand the difference between being the one taking part in the encounter and hearing about it second hand.

Posted by: Fellow commenters on Jul 26, 2008 at 12:40 AM
The article said he had a knife not a gun. The gun was added to the comment section by someone who did not read the article. Read it again. Comment sections are not the facts. A knife is considered deadly force especially if they are coming at you with it. When a suspect ups the ante like that deadly force is met with deadly force. What were the police supposed to do to defend themselves? Swing their guns back at him? That would leave room for the suspect to attempt to disarm the officers and use their own weapons on them. To the officers I commend you for doing your job and protecting others and yourselves. Your job is a daily selfless act.

Posted by: Lori Location: Elkhart on Jul 26, 2008 at 12:16 AM
I don't understand the comments in regards to the amount of money this man stole; he robbed a bank. Whether he left with $1.00 or $1000.00 doesn't lessen the severity of the crime he chose to commit. It is his actions that led to his death.

Posted by: Toby Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Thank you, SBPD!! One more thug off the streets. One less moron to have to support in prison.

Posted by: John Location: South Bend on Jul 26, 2008 at 12:09 AM
To jim at 10:39 PM thanks for proving how mature you are by resorting to name calling, you clearly believe everything you see and hear on the news which is your first mistake. Think for a second if you robbed a bank and got chased down by cops, and you had only a knife.. would you really try to attack them with it? Give me a break. Everyone is so glad this man is dead but where is his fair and speedy trial? Cops with guns Vs man with knife, I'm PRETTY SURE they could have disarmed him without killing him. IF he actually pulled a knife on these gun wielding officers which i HIGHLY doubt using common sense. Im guessing it went like this. Man runs, Cops catch him, Man tries pulls knife to set it on the ground and give up, rookie cops get nervous and shoot him dead. But we'll never hear his side of the story now will we?

Posted by: Todd Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:56 PM
An officer is not going to holster his side arm and get out a taser when a knife has been drawn on them. I do not believe a K9 unit was on the scene and why would you put the dog in such danger to begin with when you know for a fact there is a weapon and he will use it? As for the guy who said he only took a few hundred bucks...that guy made a choice, it cost more then a few hundred dollars to put an officer in the hospital or cover his funeral. That attitude is why he was even in this whole mess. Do the crime and you better be ready for the consequences.

Posted by: Lucy Magee Location: South bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Thank you South bend, P.D. A job well done!! I will sleep a bit more soundly tonight. My prayers are with all of you, and your families!

Posted by: jim Location: SB on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:39 PM
to Anon at 10:25, Thugs are young hoods. i hope they are in the minority, but latly they seem to be more in the majority. hopefully more will pull knifes on cops. and to John at 5:47 and MISAWAKA MAN, when some thug pulls a knife on you while you hold a gun, what would you do? maybe you would drop you gun and let him stab you, RIGHT? idiots...

Posted by: For Real on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Lets think about the trauma of the staff working in the bank, cause this jerk decides to take the easy way to get money.. Its good that hes dead too so we dont have to keep supporting him in prison

Posted by: Art Location: Plymouth on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:33 PM
I am glad that none of our Police Officers were hurt and all are going home safely to their families. I sure hope we all back them and pray for the officers and their families as they deal with all of this. I can't wait to have them all back on the road protecting my family. God bless each and every Police Officer for what they do for each and every one of us! My family will also say a prayer for the victim and his family.

Posted by: greg on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:31 PM
bad boys bad boys, watcha gonna do, watcha gonna do when they come for you.Get em boys!

Posted by: anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:18 PM
By the way, this was his 5th time robbing this bank in 6 months.

Posted by: anon Location: dont matter on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:18 PM
MISHWAKA MAN i dont understand you are you telling me that they should have let him get away with the money ok say if they did then all the banks would be robbed more and more i hate to see that he had to die but he did rob a bank and thats not right i realize these are hard times but that doesnt mean go rob a bank also he might have robbed the same one twice if something wouldnt have been done then this would happen more and more i hope this will be a wake up call to all the thugs in america

Posted by: Sarah Location: Rochester on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:16 PM
I suppose that Mishawaka Man would like to ride with the police department next time this happens to ask the criminal how much money they stole before he could determine whether the police officer should use deadly force. Any citizen has a right to defend himself against a knife. All police officers should be included in this right. It is unfortunate that anyone turns to crime; however, it is even more unfortunate to see citizens critizing the police department for protecting us.

Posted by: Donna Location: Granger on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:12 PM
the person that said "he only took a few hundred dollars and didn't deserve to die for that" seems to not notice that he pulled a knife on police offices

Posted by: Victims son's stepdad Location: Indianapolis on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:07 PM
I knew the guy. He is my stepson's dad. I have to explain to his 7 year old why he died today. He did a stupid thing. In fact, the guy is not very bright at all. Something like this was bound to happen to him. However, not even when I was deployed in Iraq did I use lethal force against a terrorist with a knife. Tasers, dogs, or shoot to wound before you shoot to kill was our ROE. As much as I didn't care for my stepson's dad, this was too much. I wore vests in Iraq. I and my Soldiers practiced better judgment than this!

Posted by: Henry Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Eastside Joe, this country is in, this big mess because too many hoods and thugs are let go by the courts, let out of prison early and also because these hoods and thugs are not watched close enough by there parole officers when they are paroled, not because the South Bend Police shot a man today that was trying to kill them with a knife!! Also when I am talking about hoods and thugs, I am talking about all races, colors and genders, I am not singling out anyone!!!!

Posted by: Aaron Location: Indiana on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:48 PM
When a police officer is confronted by a threat wheather it be a gun or a knife, you must use the approiate force, these officers used the approiate force needed this man was threatening the officers with boidly harm and the were justified to use deadly force. Police officers cannot shoot to wound they shoot to kill wounding only gives the threat a chance to shoot or stab again . I wish some of these bloggers would sit in a patrol car for one night and respect what SBPD does.

Posted by: HomieJeromie Location: SB on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Don't break the law, and when you get caught to make a threatening move with a deadly weapon at a Police Officer. SBPD did their job tonight protected property and their lives. I feel sorry for this guys family, but most certainly not him.

Posted by: Interested Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Funny how it was reported by wndu the man came after officers with a knife...witnesses say the man was unarmed.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Does "Thug" equal "minority"?

Posted by: J Walsh Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:25 PM
How many of you who are critical of SBPD's actions today would call the officer a hero if he was killed and then show your "support" as his/her family, friends, and fellow officers mourned? Why don't you think of the double standard before you complain and ask yourself if you would do the same and how you would react if you were faced with the same situation. What if the guy got away, did it again, and hurt someone you love? Would you feel the same? I think a lot of people on these boards need to check their own backyards before they complain about someone elses.

Posted by: Mychael Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:23 PM
The officer is justified in using deadly force "technically" but with tasers and batons and mace and the likes, you just wish they could use other means to subdue the criminal element andthen let the justice system decide their punishment, its a sad situation for all parties.

Posted by: Eastside Joe Location: South Bend, In on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Could the police have used their tazers?Yea: "don't bring a knife to a gunfight." This also would have been good work for our K-9 units. This nation is in a hell of mess maybe the police will learn from this to be more in control next time. Reading the comments here disturbs me, such mean spirited citizens.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:54 PM
If I believed I was on TV, I'll be shooting 2 to 5 people everyday while on patrol.... You should stop watching TV.

Posted by: dAVE pOPI Location: south bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Its sad when a police officer must use deadly force, not for the victim but the officer instead. What must be going through their mind at a time like this. Quick judgement!! This criminal reportedly robbed this same bank just a week ago, and some in the community think this person has the right to live, when he himself puts others in harms way. Pitty on all of you who think this. We need a stronger society, that taks actions quicker instead of letting these criminals get off with a slap on the wrist. I want to add a note to 1st. Source bank.....6 or 7 robberies since November, how about hiring a retired or off duty officer to GUARD these banks!

Posted by: Dawn Location: Granger on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:08 PM
Kudos to SBPD!!!!! Now maybe these thugs will realize that when you play bad boy sports,there is a serious consequence to your actions. Maybe a few more results in death and we may well have a huge reduction in the citys crime rate. PLEASE do not cut the efforts of our public servants... they ARE keeping our streets safer.

Posted by: Larry Location: SB on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:05 PM
Really "very upset". Perhaps you can fill us all in on the last time the Police in this area shot and killed a suspect. Can't think of any in recent memory? How bout the number of Policemen killed when they confronted "these people?" Don't know the answers do you? Ok, I'll help you out. FOUR (4) cops killed since 2003. Thugs killed in that same time span ZERO. Last time a thug was killed by SBPD was 1999. Cops confront "these people", as you say, numerous times on a daily basis. Care to apologize to the Police for your erroneous blunder? I highly doubt it. At least come down off your soapbox cause you just lost all credibility.

Posted by: s plum Location: elkhart on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:01 PM
maybe if someone is thinking about robbing a bank, or anything else, -- maybe they'll think twice. these bank robberies are getting out of hand.

Posted by: Vince Greene Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:00 PM
Oh Yeah! Well I think they do need to take more lives. Drop them all so they don't rob banks 3-4 times. Some of you dumb bones are right, we cannot judge him. And that is exactly why I say shoot em, and send them before god to be judged. I tired of people being weak, and feeling sympathy for these pathetic criminals.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:55 PM
Hey "very upset"... I'm sorry you feel like the police should have let the guy shoot them when he PULLED OUT A WEAPON, but the rest of us don't think so. I personally care for our heroes' lives.

Posted by: MISHWAKA MAN Location: MISHAWAKA on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:54 PM
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO CATCH THE BAD GUYS, BUT IF ALL HE TOOK WAS A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD HAVE DIED OVER THAT. THERE IS NO WAY HE COULD HAVE TAKEN ON ALL THREE COPS WITH A KNIFE. THE POLICE GO THRU ALL THIS TRAINING AND THEY KILL SOMEONE. I JUST DON'T THINK THATS RIGHT.

Posted by: Bob on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:33 PM
Kudos to the cops. Shoot every one of 'em just like this one. Nothing but trouble, a drag on society, a risk to the good people of the community. Let's round up some more bad guys and shoot them, too. Stupid JB.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:20 PM
South Bend has MORE SAFETY of fire and emergency medical service personnel in this town, NOW!!Thank You SBPD.

Posted by: Mish Location: Mish on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:10 PM
Meet deadly force with deadly force. WAY TO GO SBPD!! You are heros not only today but everyday! I am glad to know that highly trained officers keep the city safe, or as safe as they can be. GOOD JOB! GREAT JOB! THANK YOU!

Posted by: Mish Location: Mish on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:06 PM
Hey very upset, I hope you get very upset when the pd decide to head your warning and the criminal got away with the homicide of one of your loved ones. Wake up. there have been only 4 police related shootings in 2 years. One was when a CRIMINAL was on top of an officer reaching for his gun. One was when PD was clearing a known criminal active area anda homeowner came out with guns a blazing. The 3rd was when Barnaby got his justice served for killing an officer, and now this. but you did say it all...WHEN THEY CATCH CROOKS and SBPD is VERY good at catching crooks. but i bet your head is so far up your well, I bet you need a glass stomach just to see what is going on around you.

Posted by: Jamie Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:04 PM
It never ceases to amaze me the way people such as "very upset" are "very upset" when an officer shoots a criminal. Yes, the officer is probably upset he had to take a life, but that thug robbed banks repeatedly, and when he brandished a weapon in the bank, he was threatening the of innocent people and the money they worked hard to earn to put in the bank. When you decide to commit a crime, you risk the consequences. Too bad that money he stole cost him his life. Get a job and work for your money the right way like most of the rest of us! We're all living in the same rough economy! What gives criminals the right to take what isn't theirs?

Posted by: very upset Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 07:49 PM
These cops must think they are on tv the way they catch crooks. I don't think you have to shoot to kill someone everytime they are confronted by these people.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 07:11 PM
I think they should create a law that robbers be shot on the spot. :) We'll get rid of thugs by killing them or making them think twice! I'm glad this idiot died.

Posted by: M Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:48 PM
You would think if this guy had enough guts to rob a bank once that he would have enough guts to steal some new clothes to wear to his next bank robbery! It's about time we let the police take back our streets and put an end to all these low life thugs running and ruining our community! GOOD JOB SBPD and bank employees!!!

Posted by: Connie Location: Warsaw on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:41 PM
People don't steal because of economic conditions, but because they have so little character that their overwhelming selfishness exhibits itself. Good job to the SBPD--and may more such cases be resolved so efficiently.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:38 PM
FANTASTIC! Although it is a sad situation I am glad that the criminal was the only person who was killed. My congrats to SBPD for a job well done. Just think, the mayor wants to cut our police force.

Posted by: Mary Location: SB on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:23 PM
The weapon that was pulled was a 6-8 inch knife, not a gun. I'm glad they killed the guy, maybe that will be a deterrant to our other citizens who enjoy taking money from banks that they never deposited.

Posted by: jodi Location: southbend on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:05 PM
i know it was crazy i was just on my way to the bannk n for got my id so i decided to go to auldis first then i got out the store n all this happend i consider my self lucky

Posted by: Melissa Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:56 PM
I have been reading the comments, it is amazing that some how, some way, some of you find a way to blame the police dept. The article stated he had a gun. I for one, did not enjoy the last 2 police funerals and am very glad it ended with the good guys winning this time. They don't do this job for money, they do it to save you from people like this. The economy is not good, but there is assistance out there and robbing is not one of them.

Posted by: Larry on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:52 PM
Now thats justice in action. Its to bad for him because now he is before God with no going back. I cant help but wonder the circumstance that drove him to do this . Drugs? Lazy, out of work with kids to feed or just a low life.

Posted by: John Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:47 PM
For the record the man didn't have a gun, the cops killed a guy for stealing 500 dollars and they say he had a knife on him... a KNIFE. I'm gonna make a bet and say the same people here who are applauding the police for taking this mans life are church going god fearing "christians". You all make me sick

Posted by: didntgetkissedfirst Location: intherear on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Exactly how it should be done ... save the cost of a trial and incarceration.

Posted by: john Location: elkhart on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:33 PM
Thats 1 less mouth to feed in prison

Posted by: KR Location: Elkhart on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:24 PM
I just don't understand why people decide to do bad things like this. If they bothered to pick up a paper or watch the news, they would see that they don't get away with it for long. I hate to hear about someone losing their life, but maybe others will now see that its not just fun and games.

Posted by: happy Location: joy joy on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:23 PM
this is great news, maybe they sbpd should start killing everyone who commits a crime and then our streets would be safe again the 1st source banks have been robbed like 15 times in 2 years....obviously the man was guilty of something or he would not have pulled a gun, prob has committed other more severe crimes and wasn't sure why the police where approaching him...but I hope for the sake of the officers that they find they are justified in killing the man, because there are allot of corrupt policemen around here too

Posted by: Sarah Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:21 PM
GOOD JOB SBPD! Its about time someone gets whats coming

Posted by: Mish Location: Mish on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:16 PM
I am not sorry he died. He pulled a gun on police and got what he desereved. Good ridens to bad rubbish. As far as the wake up call, the "alarm" has been sounding for a very long time in our area, and it looks like people keep hitting the snooze button. Great job SBPD on protecting your lives and the lives of the members of the community. If this situation arises again, I hope to see another criminal get the same thing that was dealt to them today. God knows the courts dont care.

Posted by: tex on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:15 PM
shoot first, ask questions later!!

Posted by: B. Location: Mishawaka on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Nothing ruins a bank robber's day like having his lungs ripped apart by one or more police-issued bullets. It's so much nicer to see justice carried out so quickly and inexpensively rather than paying for years to warehouse the felon -- only to let him out so he can resume his life of crime? Nicely done, SBPD!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:05 PM
A THUG just died. Good. I hope all THUGS are treated this way. If they pull a gun on the police (or anyone for that matter) they should be shot on sight - no questions asked. Trust me, if this THUG thought he could kill a cop and get free, he would have. No loss. He chose his life's path - it was a lousy one.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:04 PM
I feel nothing for the suspect, but will keep the officers in my thoughts and prayers, for they will be going through a ruff time. No one wants to have to use deadly force.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: SB on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:59 PM
One more bank robber losted life, Thank You officer you where doing your job...Do not rob a bank...stupid person....

Posted by: n.a on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:48 PM
Well, if everything didn't cost so much, people would think about robbin banks. It's gettin really bad out here, even if you do have a good job.

Posted by: D Location: South bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:34 PM
Great, saved us taxpayers some money by avoiding trial. These low lifes need to get a job, any job, like most respectable citizens. Kudos to the police for taking one more waste of space off the street!!

Posted by: Lori Location: Mishawaka on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:33 PM
It saves the taxpapers money for a trial where he would get a slap on the wrist. Maybe it will stop one or two people from doing the same thing.

Posted by: james on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:27 PM
IM NOT SORRY HE'S DEAD. I THINK ITS GREAT. TOO BAD ALL ROBBERS ARE NOT SHOT

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:26 PM
With the economy the way it is, i'm sure there will be more. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I don't agree with what he did,(if he did it), but he didn't deserve to die. I feel for the family.

Posted by: unnamed Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:23 PM
I work at a bank and although I am sorry to hear the man was shot, that is a chance you take when you break the law. People who take things that don't belong to them get what they deserve sooner or later.

Posted by: SBPD supporter Location: A city with one less criminal on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:13 PM
One for the good guys! I am sorry this man chose this way of life, but our officers have the right to defend themselves and innocent citizens. Everyone who wants to fight terrorists on foreign soil must realize that these individuals are just as bad. They force us all to live in fear. We need to take back our city from these thugs and this was a great step. I do not want to read anything from anyone arguing that the police are reckless or acted inappropriately. They take the use of deadly force seriously and this move was made after a weapon was pulled on them. I hope these officers have some peace in knowing they did not make this choice, the deceased did.

Posted by: observer Location: south bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:11 PM
The gene pool has just improved.

Posted by: Mike P Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:02 PM
Anyone who pulls a gun on a cop gets what he deserves! Good work South Bend Police for acting quickly!

Posted by: WooHoo! Location: IN on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:47 PM
I am pleasantly surprised to hear this. I, for one, am so tired of the good people of this area being victimized and and the criminals are left to roam the streets. I'm sorry that the officer will have to live with the fact that he was forced to take a life, but it sounds like he/she/they did their job and a job well done. THANK YOU for making our streets a little safer today!

Posted by: Mike Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:45 PM
Nice work Officers! I'm glad no Police Officers were shot. One less criminal and now us tax payers don't have to flip the bill to house him in prison. Oh, I'm sorry, this is St. Joseph County, he would have maybe have been in jail one day and released by our great judges. I bet when they release his name he will have a record a mile long, then the family will get on here and say what a great person he was and would never hurt anyone. Yea right! I hate to see people die but the crime in this city is out of control.

Posted by: Mishawala resident on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:37 PM
One less scum on the streets! I commend the PD for taking care of these undesireables. I urge you to continue to shoot these thugs every chance you get. I wish I could.

Posted by: anon Location: S.B on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:37 PM
Good ridance! Thank you SBPD

Posted by: Margaret Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:35 PM
Well how stupid can you be to rob the same bank twice in the same week and to wear the same clothing. OMG how dumb!!! I was over in the Meijer parking lot while all of this was going on. It was pretty scary. I knew what was going on when I saw that there were several police cars driving over the lawn. Everyone stopped and let the police do their job and it sounds like they did. Good keep it up SBPD. We cannot afford to have the force cut with these kind of thugs still crapping up our city.

Posted by: JIm Location: St. Joe on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:27 PM
Want to place bets on how many shots were fired, compared to the actual number that hit the idiot? Either way, thanks for taking one more off the streets, and off the tax payers "payroll".

Posted by: H on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:22 PM
I am sorry that this man died but maybe this is a wakeup call to all of those who have been, and are thinking about, robbing banks and other establishments. For so long, they have been getting away with it and there have been no consequences. I hope this will help prevent future robberies, although I doubt it.


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