Pit bull rescued after abuse

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Posted: 7:19 PM Jul 24, 2008
Last Updated: 7:50 AM Jul 25, 2008
Reporter: Stephanie Stang
Email Address: stephanie.stang@wndu.com

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A dog left to die on a dead end road is getting a second chance.

Animal Aid of Southwest Michigan hopes to find a home for a pit bull possibly used as bait for fighting.

He was found on Sunday in Benton Township tied to a tree and left to die.

Rescuers believe he was used in training for dog fights and lost.

The dog was taken to Hecht Vetrinary Hospital with an infected and broken leg, which was amputated.

Despite that this pit bull's tail is always wagging. Rescuers say the dog is very friendly and loving.

“He loves to get petted and loves any sort of attention. He just thrives for it. He has a good attitude, loves to run, as much as he can,” says Brandon Hecht from the Hecht Veterinary Hospital.

If you know anything about who hurt this dog Animal Aid of Southwest Michigan is offering a two hundred dollar reward.

Please call Sue Burkhard with Animal Aid of Southwest Michigan at (269) 369-3151 or Det. Lt. Delmar Lange from the Benton Township Police Dept. (269) 025-1135 x118

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Posted by: anna Location: las vegas on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:25 PM
I am so happy to find an article thats positive about Pit Bulls. Most people are truley misinformed about this breed. I've resuced two Pitts and they are the best pets I've ever owned

Posted by: David Taylor Location: Austin,Tx on Aug 20, 2008 at 07:16 PM
It's really good to know that there are still people that care about animals.I hope to find this dog a home.Did they post an add on craigslist?

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 2, 2008 at 04:03 AM
Pitbulls were good dogs at one time. The breeding over the years has sadly ruined them. It would take years to ever make them the way they used to be. They can be nice but they tend to turn on their families more than any other dog. The facts are there. Everyone knows of people being attacked by other dogs of course but pits turn the most. Also their bite is so powerful that it can cause more damage than most. That is 100% the reason they are the most commonly used dogs for fighting. The ignorance level of people has risen so much its sickening

Posted by: Whatev on Aug 1, 2008 at 06:52 PM
how could anyone do that to a dog as cute as that? i would love to have a dog like that. poor dog.

Posted by: wise up you fools Location: mishawaka on Aug 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM
I personally know four people who have had pitbulls as family pets and were attacked by their dog. None of these people were abusive to their pet and none of the dogs had exhibited any violent tendencies before they made an unprovoked attack on the people who had loved and raised them. Yes, this can happen with any breed of dog, but when it happens with a pitbull, the consequences are much more severe.

Posted by: Mike Location: Bristol on Aug 1, 2008 at 07:57 AM
Folks, don't let Big-O spin you up, that's what he wants. I've owned pit bulls for over 15 years and during that time, I have never had one bite me or my children. They are very loving and affectionate dogs IF they are raised in a loving environment. One of my neighbors was terrified of dogs until she met my Sadie.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Jul 31, 2008 at 11:12 AM
This is exactly why animals-especially pit bulls attack people. Because stupid people treat them horribly and train them to fight. It's sad and disgusting. I don't understand dog fighting--it's very sad, makes me want to cry......:(

Posted by: dj Location: sj on Jul 31, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Big O--of course you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to tell you that you are an uneducated moron. I have a rottie mix, have had friends with rotties and pit bulls, and they have been the best dogs. Pit bulls were considered family pets years ago--I believe the term nursery dog applies to them because they are so good with children. It's not the dogs nature to fight and be aggressive--it's the stupid people that force them to be that way. I wish Michael Vick and his ilk could be beaten, starved, and chained and eventually drowned or electrocuted because they didn't perform well. These are horrible human beings, and I stretch using the term human with them. They have no compassion or empathy and if they can't be rehabilitated, I suggest that Big O start euthanizing them instead--these people are the true dangers, not the breeds.

Posted by: Scott Location: Michigan on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Hmm...there are cases in which Goldens have mauled and killed people...you just need to look for them. Here again we are told how vicious pits are....what we arent told...was the child tormenting the dog? Had he tormented it in the past? Dogs arent toys, they are living creatures who dont like to be harassed either....like I said, I adopted a small beagle from an abuse situation....she is highly likely to bite...she isnt allowed near children and is crated when company comes.....again, dont blame the breed.

Posted by: Me Location: Misawaka on Jul 29, 2008 at 07:09 PM
Find the owner and put them in a ring and stone them... Animal abuse should be a FELONY! Scum that abuse any animal in anyway need to be beat and dumped into the river! And that goes for the IDIOTS that let their dogs ride in a back of a open pick up truck, one sudden stop or the dog jumps out that can cause a serious accident, Laws & some people are a JOKE!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2008 at 08:42 AM
(Ahem) Allow me to be the first to say...I TOLD YOU SO!!! Little boy in MI got his arm ripped off yesterday by...a PIT BULL!! Why don't we ever hear about golden retrievers mauling someone to near death? Hmmmmm. You people all have your head in the sand or maybe elsewhere....

Posted by: Marie Location: Tampa, Florida on Jul 27, 2008 at 07:35 AM
A two hundred dollar reward? I doubt a gang member will be giving authorities any tips on this sad case anytime soon.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:07 PM
Anyone stating that "aggressiveness can't be bred in" obviously knows too little about dogs to be trusted with the training and controlling of one. Pit bulls, like many other breeds, are naturally agressive because they were intentionlly bred to be so for their jobs. PB's were developed to kill bulls-so they were expected to be strong willed and violent, and this has only just been bred against for a couple of decades at best. They are great dogs-for strong, decisive people who obey leash laws. This case is sickening. Cruelty to an animal is often the first indication of the lack of respect for life in general. The perpetrator should be punished. But the dog should never be adopted out. They have already said it shouldn't be in a household with other large dogs, but what about neighbor's with large dogs? People walking large dogs on the street? And, are the new owners going to ALWAYS remember that a missing limb doesn't make it any safer without a leash? Where's the public's guarantee?

Posted by: Heather Location: St Joesph MI on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:07 AM
I agree with T and Sharon from South Bend. I also feel that Pitbulls can be loving. I think it is due to its environment. I hope this dog ends up with a loving owner and a good home !!!!!

Posted by: Carolyn Location: Niles,Michigan on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:19 PM
This is just horrible. I have a Jack Russell that was not trained to be an attack dog but she has aggressive tendencies. That is because she was abused as a pup but that just proves my point that dogs that are trained to be agressive will usually be agressive. Not all Jack Russell's are agressive dogs. Since I had her she is starting to change. She is learning to love , she is learning to care and the difference between disipline and cruelty. If this dog behavior can change other dogs can too!!!

Posted by: anon on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:17 PM
i have a 4 year old american pitbull..he's the BEST dog i have ever had. he will not go out in the snow unless he has his coat and booties and also loves his sunglasses when its too bright outside..i would NEVER choose a different breed..they are the most loyal breed and will do anything to make their owners happy!! TO ALL PIT OWNERS: EVERY AUGUST IN INDY, THEY HAVE A PITBULL WALK DOWNTOWN TO SHOW AWARENESS...CHECK IT OUT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED!! its a lot of fun!

Posted by: Scott Location: Benton Harbor on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:13 PM
It amazes me how truly ignorant some people are...especially hiding behind the anonimity of this page...pit bulls are not aggressive by nature..they are taught to be that way. Are all German Shepherds vicious? I mean after all, police dogs are trained to attack, does that mean they are all vicious? Come on, where is the logic in that? I have rescued many pit bulls, and they can be wonderful dogs. I personally own a beagle who I feel is much more likely to bite than most pit bills. Some people need to remove their head from the orifice in which it is implanted before running their mouth....

Posted by: jodi Location: southbend on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:11 PM
ppl are idiots pit bulls can be good dogs i own one n he is so sweet qit all how u raise a dog

Posted by: M Location: PA on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:54 PM
"Love pit bulls all you want, but I wouldn't adopt a chihuahua if it was brought up to be a fight dog" This dog was a BAIT dog, not a fight dog. Bait dogs BECOME bait dogs often because they won't fight - they don't have the temperament. This dog will likely recover and live happily with a family and possibly even other animals.

Posted by: Big O on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:29 PM
why do you people attack me b/c I gave my opinion on these dogs?? I will not attack you back b/c I am better than that, I will say again Pitbulls and rottweilers are a worthless breed, and they ALL need put down.. I buying, any takers

Posted by: Not Kind on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Kind, just so you know my MIL is a pitbull. I'm not being funny I was serious. She gets mad and foams at the mouth.

Posted by: Carly Location: Niles on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:50 PM
WOW! What an interesting subject.It really is how a dog is raised that usually determines it's personality. In reality there are certain breeds that can be more agressive than others and probably shouldn't be around children. What most people don't realize is that even German Shepards are actually considered "agressive" but we look at them differently because they are often times "police dogs". Police have choosen this breed because they DO have agressive tendencies. It's all a matter of how you direct those tendencies...in any breed. A Pit Bull isn't "bad" just because it is a Pit. Pit Bulls are very intelligent so when they have been abused and taught to fight it is only because they realize they have to behave in certain manors in order NOT to be tortured. It's interesting to know that even children behave this way. If a child hits someone and receives desired attention for it, they're going to continue repeating this behavior. It's about time to pay attention to what we're teaching.

Posted by: Anon Location: Here on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:04 PM
I agree with the other anon. Love pit bulls all you want, but I wouldn't adopt a chihuahua if it was brought up to be a fight dog. You may love them but in the end they are ANIMALS. You can't reason with them, they go on instinct. Maybe it will have a little doggie flashback and go nuts on it's new owner. Someone else can take that risk, it's not for me. Euthanize it and save the future lawsuit.

Posted by: Anon on Jul 25, 2008 at 02:27 PM
To Dog Lover, it says "possibly used as bait for fighting" did you read the article? Would you really trust this dog, knowing thr background, around your kids? Have you ever heard of instincts? A Lab has a natural instinct to retrive things, it doesn't have to be taught. Could Pits have an instinct to fight? I don't know. I wouldn't take the chance. How can you be sure this one wasn't taught to fight?

Posted by: T Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 02:24 PM
I think what alot of people don't realize is that centuries ago, Pitbulls were bred as family pets. They are truly loving by naure. It's just unfortunate for them that thier physical structure and endurance attracted morons to the fact that they could be taught to fight one another. They are not vicious by nature, they have to be conditioned for it, which means constant abuse and torture which is truly a shame that any living being would have to endure this against its will. These dogs would much rather be loyal companions than killing machines.

Posted by: Dog Lover Location: Niles on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:48 PM
To Deb and Jerry. I guess neither of you are dog owners or animal lovers. Dogs are taught to be mean and fight they are not born that way. Plus if you would have read the article the poor dog was used as bait for other dogs. Hopefully you never own a dog or if you do I feel sorry for it. It's people like you that think an animal is just an animal so who care if you kill them or abuse them.

Posted by: Kimberly Location: Mishawaka on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:21 PM
It amazes me how cruel some people can really be. A dog is man's best friend. Maybe when we find the person that did this, we can tie him to a tree with raw meat attached to his body and see how he likes it.

Posted by: Diane Location: Michigan on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:18 PM
To Rod an Dogs dont'' watch TV - I disagree... I have a dog that LOVES to watch TV. Sits in front of it daily, and on the edge of the bed in the evening watching the TV. Favorites shows are "Cartoons, Funniest Pets and People, Meerkat Manor, and any commercial with an animal in it, especially cats because he hates cats". I do not consider myself to be an idiot, as you have suggested, and as for science, perhaps you should check out your local library for facts. As to Anon who said some things should not breed. I agree... Humans would be part of that group.. As for Rotweilers and Pit Bulls who also are tagged as dangerous, it isn't the breed of dog that's dangerous. It's the dangerous breed of human's that teach them to be dangerous. Stop and really LOOK at your neighbors and how they treat their pets!! If you think they're doing something wrong, then do something about it, and become part of the solution, instead of sticking your head in the sand. All rescue animals will appreciate it.

Posted by: Janet Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Hey Jerry I'm a nurse and my husband is Supervisor and we have owned both pitbulls and rottweilers and it is all in how you chose to raise your pets!! My rott lets our kids hang, pull on his ears, love on, my kids get nose to nose with my 132 pound male rott and he slobbers all over them!! He has never growled, nipped at, or been aggressive towards my kids, ever. He is a member of our family and I trust him fully with my children. The one and only time that he has been aggresive is when my kids were in the back yard and a strange man showed up in the back yard he backed him into a corner and stood there and growled until I came and got him, he was protecting his family!! Your statement shows how ignorant you really are, guess I'm proud to be white trash!!! I love my dog and would get another one in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Rod Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Anon, dogs can't watch TV. They do not have the ability to see in 2 dimensions like humans do. Don't fret about it though, a lot of pet lovers are idiots like you and think that dogs ACTUALLY watch TV with them. They, however, do not. Science lesson over.

Posted by: kr Location: elkhart on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM
I don't think some of you are reading the article. This dog is not violent. It was used as bait to see if others would be violent enough to be used as fighters. Its very sad that a loving dog is treated this way.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM
My son adopted a pit-bull last year when he was 8 wks old, believe me I was very against this due to the bad attention this breed gets. He has been part of our family now for a year and has brought much joy to us. He is the most loving and playful dog. He loves to sit with you and watch tv, follow you everywhere you go, he is my best friend. Do I worry what he might do one day, yes but this is with every animal even a human, no one is prefect. I have a black lab, and believe it or not he has snipped at couple of people. I was 5 yrs old when I gotten bitten in the face by my aunt's collie and everyone was shock he did something like that. I do have to say the poor pit bulls have the bad rap due to some people still feel they need to raise the dogs to be fighters instead of a great pet, that just wants to be loved and show how much love they can give you, I am so glad we have icon in our family, even though he is the biggest baby you have every seen. It is all in how they are raised.

Posted by: M Location: V on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Agreeing with the "it's all about how it was raised mentallity". The problem with pit bulls is they are more often than not in the wrong hands and ownership should be regulated.

Posted by: Linda Location: Granger on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:48 AM
When this monster is found that did this to this dog, the person should be tied to a tree and beaten, then left there with nothing to slowly die just like the dog was left. I can't even imagine how anyone could do that to a helpless animal. I hope this person gets what they deserve which is a life of pain and suffering.

Posted by: Pitbull's Are Wonderful Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:32 AM
I personally have a rescued Pitbull (that was used and abused by a dog fighter). She is beyond the most loving pet we have ever had. We are so lucky that she is a part of our family. Pitbull's crave attention and love to be loved. I know this for a fact. There is no such thing as a bad dog, only BAD OWNERS. If you don't have respect for the animal, then they won't have respect for you. I cannot fathom the cruelty that people put these wonderful dogs through. I understand that people do have a bad opinion of Pitbull's simply because of the fighting rings that they are put into. But please don't let that take away from the rescued dogs having a chance to live a healthy, wonderful and loving life.

Posted by: Me Location: SBI on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:41 AM
I just want to say that Pit bulls can be very loving caring dogs. Its the way they are raised. My best friend watched my daughter when she was a baby and had 2 pit bulls and they were very loving animals. When my daughter was 3 she was attacked by a losa apso(SP). And it wasn't like she prevoked the dog. We were all right there when it happened, she was petting him. Any dog can turn in a second.

Posted by: Our Creator Location: The World on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:38 AM
Remember---Whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me. It is not for people to judge each other, only their actions. Leave the judging up to the one and only Judge and Creator. He will separate the sheep from the goats. Who knew goats could tie dogs to trees?

Posted by: kind on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:38 AM
Thanks for the laugh about the mother in law that made my day even tho you might be an ass.

Posted by: Jerry Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:11 AM
The only people who own pitbulls are 'thugs' and white trash. I can see it now, 'he was such a good dog until he bit the babys head off'. When are you idiots going to learn.

Posted by: Deb on Jul 25, 2008 at 07:50 AM
If they adopt this dog out they should be responsible for whatever happens, not the owners!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 07:38 AM
To Anonymous on July 25: Yea, but the thing of it is that something like that can happen with any animal

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:08 AM
Irish DAN, go ahead and take this animal home with you. I'm sure your insurance agent can sell you more coverage for the impending lawsuit that will happen after "PrettyPitbull" snacks on the toddlers in you neighborhood.

Posted by: To Big O Location: Mishawaka on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:15 AM
I have to disagree with everything you wrote!! Rottweilers are great dogs, I have owned them all my life and have a very sweet female now. You obviuosly know nothing about dogs. A pitbull that has been used as bait or for fighting can be rehabilitated, it takes time, money and proffessionals. Your regular shelter or rescue can't do this but if there's a good repuatable pitbull rehab that have the time can do it. Just look at all the dogs taken from Michael Vick, only one had to be euthenized, the others are doing great. However, this dog cannot be adopted out for a very long time.

Posted by: To Big O and Julie on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:28 AM
These animals are only worthless if you train them that way nor dangerous by nature. Why don’t people get that? People train certain breeds to fight, mainly pit bulls, because of certain characteristics they have in that breed. One of those characteristics would be strong jaws. Even a Tea Cup Toy Poodle can be dangerous if trained that way. I am not telling you what to do, but ask a dog trainer if you can shadow them for a day. Ask them some questions too. You might think I am odd, most do (because I’m honest), but I’m serious. These dogs are not dangerous if they are truly loved.

Posted by: sheryl on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:30 AM
i have had pitbulls in life and like any other animal if you treat it with love it will love u back pitbulls were the best family dogs i have had im glad to see that this dog wasnt put down just because of the reputation that this breed has who ever left this poor dog needs to be put in jail and and tried in court please keep viewers in touch of the outcome of thuis dog

Posted by: Diane Location: South Bend, IN on Jul 25, 2008 at 12:13 AM
God bless this dog for what he's been through. It wasn't his fault he was mistreated and abused. It sounds like his nature is that of a good dog. I hope someone is able to adopt him and give him a loving home that he deserves. I also hope the people who are responsible for his mistreatment burn in hell.

Posted by: john Location: elkhart on Jul 25, 2008 at 12:01 AM
i agree w/ sharon find this owner and tie their dumb a## to a tree. dogs r like people too, treat them bad they do bad. the only dumb animal is the human

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 12:01 AM
He loves to be petted, and loves to run, and if he ever bites you, it's all over. Kinda like having a Siberian Tiger as a pet - they're just fine until that one day when they decide to snap at you. Some things should not be bred.

Posted by: Irish Dan Location: Goshen on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:56 PM
How many of you people remember The Little Rascels, well if you do, then you would know that their dog was a Pitbull. that was a wonderful animal. I have a Pitbull she is 4 months old and loves everyone,dogs become what their owners train them for,if you treat a dog with Love you will get Love in return. I have had dogs for over fifty years and not once has one of them ever turned on me or anyone that has came to visit my home and family. by the way spell DOG backwards, then you will know why it is mans best friend.

Posted by: Tom Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:49 PM
All of these people suggesting the killing of this poor victim of abuse just amaze me. If life is so cheap, go and sacrifice yourselves but leave innocent animals alone. People like you are the reason problems like this exist in the first place.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM
That picture looks like my Mother in Law, go ahead and euthanize her.

Posted by: Response To Negative Remarks Location: Mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:23 PM
I don't believe that there are any domesticated dogs that are "vicious by nature". Aggression isn't bred, it is taught through abuse or is a result of a neurological impairment. Bait dogs won't fight back the way they want them to, that is why they are bait dogs. Although there is no way of determining for sure if lingering trauma might cause some latent behavior problems in the future, it seems logical that this particular dog has been temperament tested and deemed worthy of rescue. A cute little mill dog purchased at a pet store might have similar issues. As mentioned previously, it is NOT the breed that is the problem. Animals should be considered our companions, not commodities or status symbols. I invite anyone to go into any kill shelter in the area and put an animal to sleep like the workers there have to do every day. Maybe then you wouldn't be so quick to judge who deserves to live or die because we as a society have failed to protect and care for them properly.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:23 PM
This dog was taught to fight. Do not adopt this animal. It should be put down for the safety of all who encounter it.

Posted by: steve Location: plymouth on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Sad story, But if it was used for fighting the best thing is to put it down. It hard to retrain a dogs thinking and behavior!!!!

Posted by: Jessie Location: Elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I own 2 pitbulls one of which we got from a pitbull rescue at the age of 2 and always have and raised them with children and they are the most LOVING pets I would NEVER own anything else!! My son was attacked by a cocker spaniel NOT my pitbulls!!! DO NOT stereotype all pits due to some peoples ignorance!!!!!!!!!!!! My children ride the dogs like horses and have NEVER had an issue! This person needs to be found and punished to the fullest extent!!

Posted by: Saddened on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM
People like this are nothing but evil incarnate and should be destroyed once convicted.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Its too bad for the dog, but I wouldn't trust an ex-dog fighting pitbull around my family.

Posted by: jenny Location: elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:12 PM
to big o... i am pretty sure that you are the one that's worthless. if we could "put down" all of the ignorant people like yourself, the world would be a much happier place...

Posted by: J on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:45 PM
Big O, what an a**. They are living creatures and do not deserve unkind treatment. Every Rottwiler I have ever known has been so lovable. If you would put down a so called "worthless" pitbull or rottwiler, what do you think about people who are "worthless"? I feel their are alot more people who are worthless than animals.

Posted by: Deb on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:19 PM
BIG O, NO animal is worthless!!!! But sure can't say that about CERTAIN humans, HUH?!

Posted by: Julie on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:06 PM
Cruelty to animals is always wrong. But, this dog will never be a loving family pet. It's a vicious dog by nature & was used in fighting on top of that. Put it to sleep.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:39 PM
They need to find whoever did this and treat them the exact way they treated this dog because that is just wrong! No matter what breed it is it doesn't deserve to be treated this way! I'm glad he was found and saved! And to you Big O Pitbulls and Rottweilers can be great dogs! I own and rott and she has been one of the best dogs I've had! She even sucks on a baby pacifier! So I think you need to rethink your statement! Don't down them because you always hear bad things they can make great pets as well!

Posted by: Amy Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:18 PM
How can you say pit bulls are worthless? its not the dogs fault. Its the people who raise them. Pretty soon people are going to be saying to put each other down because of the way we are raised.

Posted by: Big O on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:36 PM
Pitbulls are worthless....Rottweilers too I say put them all down...

Posted by: john Location: south bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:31 PM
we need to find out who did this to this dog and now .

Posted by: Sharon Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:13 PM
If they find the person who did this to this poor dog please tie him to a tree and leave him there to die. This person is a horrible horrible person!