Kathy Phillips not guilty of murder, not guilty of neglect
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Posted: 11:47 PM Jul 23, 2008
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After more than five days of testimony, the jury decided Kathy Phillips did not kill an infant found near her property back in March of 2006.

"You just stop and think I know she wasn't pregnant during this whole time they accused her of this," Kathy's mother, Marcia Ruminski, says after hearing the verdict. "My daughter would not take another person's life, least of all her child."

The jury started deliberating at about 4:30pm CDT, and the judge read its verdict at about 1:15am CDT.

Earlier in the night, about 11:00pm CDT, jurors told the judge they reached a decision on one count, but had not come to a consensus on the second. After that announcement, the judge let the jurors have a break to walk outside.

The prosecution called witnesses for five full days of testimony and rested on the sixth day, Wednesday morning. The defense rested without ever calling a witness.

"When you have the death of a baby here, the State was looking to find justice for that baby and that's the job ultimately of the jury and they did," says Deputy Prosecutor Jennifer Evans. "The inconclusiveness of the cause of death was seriously an obstacle but I think we presented the best circumstantial case that we possibly could."

Thursday, the LaPorte community reacts to the verdict.

"It's hard to believe that a mother, that already has children, could kill another child and I don't think that she did," says Beverly Wilson. "If the baby was born dead she couldn't have killed it. In other words, if it was stillborn, it's not a murder."

Wilson continues, "I don't know the woman. Never met her. But I still don't think she killed that baby."

"If there was no crime committed she would have done something to begin with," says Bob French, Kathy's high school classmate. "And trying to hide the pregnancy from the beginning signifies wrong intent."

French continues, "People think she's guilty living in this town. She'll hear about it. She'll get the looks and feel uncomfortable for probably the rest of her life."

NewsCenter16 has been following the trial and will be posting updates directly from the courthouse throughout the day. Simply refresh the page for the latest on the trial.


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    Here's a recap of the daily events during the trial.

    Tuesday, two forensic analysts say DNA proves Kathy and Garry Phillips are the parents of the baby.

    The trial is moving slowly. Constantly objecting, the defense is giving little wiggle room, making the prosecution work for every witness and every piece of evidence.

    Tuesday, a number of witnesses took the stand, including several family members.

    We heard from Garry Phillips, Kathy's husband, without the jury in the room and only briefly. The prosecution only asked Garry his name before he evoked the 5th Amendment and asked the judge to appoint him a public defender. Garry is expected to meet with the public defender Wednesday morning and it's still up in the air whether he will be a witness.

    Kathy's mother did testify Tuesday. She says Kathy never told her she was pregnant. Mother actually says she was worried about Kathy because it looked like her daughter was losing weight.

    A manager at a plastic company was another witness Tuesday. He says his company in Louisiana manufactures the plastic garbage bags presented to him by the prosecution. The witness also said the two bags come from the same roll based on how they look and unique features or flaws.

    Earlier in the trial, the jury learned one of the garbage bags was found in the Phillips' home. The baby was found in the other.

    One of Garry Phillips' co-workers also testified, saying the garbage bags in the courtroom are the same kind they have at work.

    Meanwhile, the prosecution wants to use a video as evidence. Initially, the judge wouldn't allow it, partly because he says the prosecution can't prove the time and date of the footage. But at the end of the day Tuesday, the judge agreed to watch the video, without the jury in the room. It was home video footage of Kathy and her daughter, who is now almost five years old. After watching the video, the judge then decided to allow the tape to be used as evidence as long as the entire tape is shown.

    Week two of the trial began Monday. A forensic analyst says DNA studies show Kathy and Garry Phillips are the baby's parents. She also said DNA samples, on the towel and washcloth the baby was found with, show traces of the baby and Kathy.

    Meanwhile, the defense challenges the credibility of the DNA analyst and the study. At one point, the prosecution suggested exhuming the baby for additional testing, and idea the judge considered. But the defense rejected the idea.

    Testimony began last week in Phillip's trial. Phillips has continued to deny ever being pregnant. But in opening statements last Wednesday, the defense wouldn't deny or confirm a pregnancy; rather, they insisted Kathy would not murder her own infant. The defense suggested the baby was stillborn. Phillip’s defense attorney also asked the jury to consider the fact that there's a chance Kathy could have lied about not being pregnant.

    In March of 2006, Kathy’s husband, Garry Phillips, found the body of a baby girl wrapped in a towel in a plastic bag near Phillips’ house.

    She was arrested in October of 2006.

    The highly-publicized trial has been postponed at least three times.

    Several witnesses are expected to be called during the trial including character witnesses, police detectives, and DNA experts.

    Stay with NewsCenter 16 throughout the day as we bring you continuous updates from the courthouse.

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    Posted by: kerry Location: ny on Mar 19, 2009 at 10:15 AM
    aside from wether or not the baby was stillborn, I truly question the lengths of what someone who disposes of their child in such a manner would go to.. to me seems as though she would be capable of anything....Perhaps she was having an affair and didn't know who the father was until DNA and this is the aftermath of a corrupt situation? What a world, what a shame...If we made abortion illegal would the question of this being punishable by law even be the case? they throw babies away all the time w/o consequence...even at viability stages of development... disturbing...

    Posted by: Betty Location: Syracuse on Aug 1, 2008 at 06:12 PM
    DNA says her and her husband are the parents of this poor baby, how could anyone find her not guilty/

    Posted by: ED Location: SBI on Aug 1, 2008 at 02:31 PM
    Hey Anonymous...I agree with Steven, and I am schooled in the "lawwwwwww." The law should be a means to the end of justice, not an obstacle.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 31, 2008 at 11:49 PM
    Well Steve if you think you could have done any better on the jury, then have at it, but first you should school yourself on the lawwwwwwww....Till you do the keep your mouth shut.

    Posted by: Steven Location: Trail Creek on Jul 31, 2008 at 05:32 PM
    My sentiments, exactly! Posted by: Willie Location: Niles on Jul 30, 2008 at 03:55 PM A baby is dead, wrapped in a trash bag and left in a field. The bag used came from Garry's workplace. There is a 99.9% chance that Kathy and Garry Phillips are the parents. Kathy denied being pregnant, then the defense changed the story to stillbirth. Now this monster has gotten off because the jury obviously doesn't know the definition of "reasonable doubt". This country's justice system has gotten way too complicated when the murder of a baby goes unpunished because of legal technicalities.

    Posted by: Kim Location: Elkhart on Jul 30, 2008 at 05:42 PM
    we should take her and put dume a** body in the garbage bag like she did to her baby and take the baseball bat and beat the sh*t out of her. Or we also should do with Kathy Phillips is take her and wrap her up with ropes and drag her sorry a** on the highway and let the big eighteen wheeler run her over. I have a little girl and she is 3 would never ever hurt her Love kids I wish my husband had couple more kids but we can't. Our little girl is very special to us because doctor me I can't have a baby at all and look at us now we do have a little girl.

    Posted by: Willie Location: Niles on Jul 30, 2008 at 04:55 PM
    A baby is dead, wrapped in a trash bag and left in a field. The bag used came from Garry's workplace. There is a 99.9% chance that Kathy and Garry Phillips are the parents. Kathy denied being pregnant, then the defense changed the story to stillbirth. Now this monster has gotten off because the jury obviously doesn't know the definition of "reasonable doubt". This country's justice system has gotten way too complicated when the murder of a baby goes unpunished because of legal technicalities.

    Posted by: SadMom on Jul 29, 2008 at 09:39 PM
    Sosinsky must be related to these sickos if you cant understand why most of us (except for you relatives and friends)are sickened and maddened that someone would harm their own child or at the very least dispose of their baby this way then you are as sick as the Phillips are. I may have cussed in front of my kids once or twice but I would never harm murder or throuw them away. So F off theres another one for u a hole!

    Posted by: Joyce Location: Benton Harbor on Jul 29, 2008 at 03:50 PM
    Hey Kathy, great idea,when my family members die I'll save a ton of money on the funeral,casket,and lot.I can just dump them all in your yard.People of Laporte I hope you can make someone see that a crime has taken place in your town.Dumping a body and lying in court-something is wrong here and everyone knows it.

    Posted by: AR Location: rolling prairie on Jul 29, 2008 at 02:46 PM
    to betty.. GL is the baby's DNA proven father.And 911 was NEVER CALLED!!!!! Kathy and GL are both guilty of dispossing of baby Jane Doe in a garbage bag, like a piece of trash! The Grandmother, Marcia, has said all along, her daughter Kathy was never pregnant with baby Jane Doe! Child welfare needs to watch this family, as it was said in court GL didn't want but the first child, and the new child is in danger of them killing it, and saying it was a crib death.....

    Posted by: O on Jul 29, 2008 at 09:31 AM
    IF SHE WAS BLACK,,,they would have put her up under the jail, and this forum would have all sorts of degrading comments...

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 28, 2008 at 09:20 PM
    You people are very warped. Why don't you sign your name if you feel so strongly? You are all keyboard tough guys!

    Posted by: Steve Location: warsaw on Jul 28, 2008 at 06:21 PM
    Tell me something how in the hell can some one not be charged with some kind of crime if the baby was still born you dont just dump it in the weeds like a piece of trash

    Posted by: Trent on Jul 28, 2008 at 04:36 PM
    Did they ever discuss the fact that the trash bags at the house more than likely were stolen from work as work had ones from the exact same roll from the factory that made them? GL must be using the Dilbert method of collecting office supplies.

    Posted by: diamond Location: southbend on Jul 28, 2008 at 09:00 AM
    he should still go on trial for disposing a human body by throughung it in the woods i know you cant just throw a way a body and get away with it

    Posted by: MM on Jul 27, 2008 at 03:59 PM
    OH SHE'S A MURDERER AND THE HUSBAND IS AN ACCOMPLICE. sounds like the prosecution BLEW the case. makes me want to go to laporte and start a crime spree.won't get put in jail.anybody want to join me?lol?!

    Posted by: Yeah...Right on Jul 27, 2008 at 02:59 PM
    Yes, Nicole that is all you have to do. Heck, this may put funeral homes out of business. You can even use the trash bags at your house and wrap him in matching sheets to your bed. All you have to say is he was dead and you hid his death from your family so you thought this would be the easy way out. Sounds kinda crazy but, hey if he is dead??? Still can't believe Kathy and her family got away with MURDER. They are sick people. Can't wait to hear her comment. I an sure it has just been one big party for them the past week. They get to resume their bar hopping. I even bet she'll be playing some softball. I can't believe she'd have the nerve to show her face in this town. Hell is waiting for her.

    Posted by: Nicole Location: Stevensville on Jul 27, 2008 at 10:15 AM
    So I am just wondering, if my husband died of natural causes in his bed.. I can throw him in a trash bag out in my back yard? That is legal in what country again???? This is just so wrong!

    Posted by: Me Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 03:30 PM
    Was this the same jury from the O.J. Simpson trial???????? What a JOKE!

    Posted by: Farley Location: Granger on Jul 26, 2008 at 02:06 PM
    Mom and Dad babby killers. We need to rescue the two children they have before they meet the same fate as their sister !! How could any idiot defend these monsters ?

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: New Buffalo on Jul 26, 2008 at 11:48 AM
    I dont understand how a "not guilty" verdict was reached wioth DNA evidence proving within a 99.99 % chance that it was her baby, and it ended up in a garbage bag in a field. I think the jury blew this one big time!

    Posted by: bd Location: mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:24 AM
    A jury of her peers found her not guilty, but from what I have read, it was confirmed that the baby was hers. I personally dont believe she is guilty of murdering this baby, but why on earth would you want your child to be left (dead or alive) in a cold field. The whole situation is sad!

    Posted by: tom Location: laporte on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:33 AM
    Another MISHANDLED case by laporte prosecutor!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD!!!! Police didn't follow PROPER procedure either!!!! We got rules to follow! Well so do THEY!! Shame on the prosecutor and Police!!!! Case closed!

    Posted by: Pat Location: Mishawaka on Jul 26, 2008 at 09:07 AM
    I can't believe the jury did not find her guilty of the any charge. Both of them will get theirs someday

    Posted by: Elsie Location: Osceola on Jul 26, 2008 at 07:04 AM
    Here is my theory: GRANDMA DID IT! The only fact we know for sure is who the parents are. There is absolutely nothing else to tell us for sure what happened after the baby was born or even how and where the baby was born. Why else would Kathy's mom be so thrilled that her daughter were found not guilty? Maybe Kathy is not guilty after all and the grandma is guilty as sin and grandma is protecting her own daughter? And I use the term grandma very loosely - I don't know of any grandma who would not be demanding to know the truth about what happened to her own granddaughter. Either way, there seems to be an element of mental illness here - Kathy can apparently just wish away a pregnancy and her mother believes in DNA fairies. Sad, sick situation any way you look at it. Now that DNA proves Kathy and Garry are the parents, what are they going to do to properly bury their daughter? Or are they going to continue to discard her and let her remain alone and anonymous in her Jane Doe plot?

    Posted by: betty Location: mich. on Jul 26, 2008 at 03:41 AM
    People..i would like to know, who is GL?? CAN SOMEONE TELL ME? In my Heart of Hearts..I BELIEVE they are BOTH are as GUILTY as Guilty can be..PERIOD!!!! Another thing i want to know is..soon as the FATHER found this Baby, and called 911, and they denied Kathy was even pregnant, why didn't they have her examined at a hospital and the Doctor could tell right away if she had recently given birth..i don't get why they didn't do this..can someone explain this to me? I feel for their 2 little ones still living with them and most of all..i am happy that precious baby Jane is in the Loving Arma of God, where she is at Peace now. God Bless the Little Ones!!!!!

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 08:15 PM
    The jury could only convict her for murder and/or neglect, the charges the prosecution brought against her. If the prosecution didn't prove anymore than circumstancial evidence, the jury can't convict her. Bottom line the prosecution botched this one. Were they not the ones that entered into evidence a autopsy saying they couldn't confirm if the baby took a breath or not? And I don't even want to hear an argument about when life starts (whether at conception or birth)! The state says life starts at birth so that what you have to go by, in a court of law anyway. The prosecution would have been better off going for lesser charges instead of going for the jugular. Atleast she might have done some time for something! And I am in no way shape or form a friend or relative, just simply someone that

    Posted by: Carly Location: Niles on Jul 25, 2008 at 04:02 PM
    Okay...it's a fact that Kathy Phillips and her husband are the parents of this poor baby. Maybe the baby was stillborn but that means that Kathy had to be pregnant and give birth at some point. That means she knew about it! That means she committed purjury! She may not be guilty of murder but this woman is definetly guilty of SOMETHING!! Neglect? Improper disposal of a body? Purjury? Something?? A baby died! Doesn't anyone care? An injustice has been done...who is going to pay for it? I guess Kathy and God are the only ones that truly know what happened. Judgement Day will come!

    Posted by: Bob Location: Elkhart on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:02 PM
    There are a couple of things that upset me about this whole case.First and foremost an innocent little life was taken and that is the saddest part. The second thing that upset me is everytime they showed Kathy Phillips on TV she was always laughing and smiling as if this were all a big joke. If I had lost a child I would find it hard to laugh and smile especially if I were on trial for the childs murder and neglect. She knows whether she did it or not and if she any conscience at all she will have to live with that fact and she will have to answer to God someday.

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: Michigan on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:01 PM
    A child is a gift anyway you look at it. The DNA proved that she was the mother and he was the father how can they deny this and this jury find her not guilty. There is something very wrong with our court system----kill a kid and you go free. The only justice for this child now is Kathy will have to face God and answer to him for what she had done. It makes me ill to know she gets to go free. And whats even worse is how can this father even touch her after what she did he is just as guilty as she is for what happened. Rest in peace little one God will punish her and you are now is God's protective arms instead of her's.......

    Posted by: s Location: bremen on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:56 PM
    South bend tribune is reporting new charges unlikely to be filed by prosecution in this case. What's done is done. The only people who know what happened are the mother, baby & God. She will have to answer to the highest authority for what she did. Will everyone who is bashing her also have to answer for their postings????

    Posted by: t-bone Location: south bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:30 PM
    Halo your'e an idiot. This happened in Laporte.

    Posted by: TT Location: Rolling on Jul 25, 2008 at 12:11 PM
    In the trial, There were pictures of Kathy and GL's house, inside and out. In the pictures there was NO BABY CRIB up anywhere, or anything awaiting the birth of a new baby. The more I've thought about this, the more I'm convinced: "THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE A LIVE BABY TO NEED A BED TO SLEEP IN !!!!!!!!!!!!" GL and Kathy, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO YOUR 2 OTHER GIRLS, YOU DID IT! When BAD things happen to you, and you ask "WHY"...remember"BABY JANE DOE", and you'll know why!!!!!!!!!! Party on at the bars. Drink, play darts, bowl.... laugh & live it up! And when you asked for a court appointed lawyer, you said you had $2,000 in the bank. You could have burried your baby Jane Doe. True... it's not as cheap as a garbage bag. As a father, you are one SICK dude!

    Posted by: Tom Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM
    DNA may not lie but the police and prosecutors do,I doubt that there was a match they would have been able to use it in court.

    Posted by: wrong direction Location: laporte on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM
    this is what happens when we as americans who live in this wonderful country allow clowns tomake laws without our overwatch.as we continue to avoid our moral direction,,,bang this is what happens. if you really care,begin to contact law makers to keep them in check. otherwise they'll keep us going down,down. continue to let abortionist to degrade what alife is. i know they'll be at the state and fed. capital.this is sad. a woman is found to be the mother,thier is a trail of wrong desicions, a baby is found dead and bagged, we find the mother and father but knowone is found wrong of any illeagal act. for me the death penalty would have been fine. but what really gets me is children in this country are trashed everyday and polititions wait for calls to better the law books. but do we call? today childmolesters walk our streets so we keep our kids off.lets start making calls, and tell them we want change. otherwise the enemy of our children will. jane doe, hope to meet you in heaven?

    Posted by: Halo Location: South Bend on Jul 25, 2008 at 10:01 AM
    Interesting to know - you can get away with murder in the good ol' Bend. Sad situation...rip little one.

    Posted by: Alan Location: Elkhart on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:35 AM
    How does Gary look her in the face knowing that a dead infant found on their property contained half his DNA? How can he kiss or hold her? The thought of laying down with her would make me physically ill. Takes all kinds I suppose.

    Posted by: A Location: Mishawaka on Jul 25, 2008 at 09:07 AM
    what i dont understand is why the prosecutors office was solely wanting to go with murder.... they knew they didnt have but very little circumstantial evidence that it 'might' have been alive at the time of birth and that going for murder would be quite iffy, even the neglect since that too was for a living baby... so why that avenue? why didnt they charge her for many other things, such as the disposal of the baby, stillborn or not... she is certainly guilty of that, or the treatment of the baby during the pregnancy and after... it is unfortunate that she will not be punished here on earth for the treatment of that pregnancy, birth and 'burial' of the baby.... though hopefully she will be punished upon her own death.... perhaps she will suffer within her own body and mind for many many many years to come!!!

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: LAPORTE on Jul 25, 2008 at 07:59 AM
    I HOPE LAPORTE COUNTY POLICE LEARNED THERE LESSON ON HOW TO HANDLE CRIME SEENS INVEGISTATIONS. IF I LOST A FAMILY MEMBER AND THE MURDERER WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY BECAUSE OF IMPROPPER COLLECTION OF EVEDIENCE IT WOULD MAKE ME CRAZY.

    Posted by: Sosinski Location: Alabama on Jul 25, 2008 at 07:58 AM
    Sad Mom, please have a little dignity, your language is horrible. If you talk like this on the web what do you say in front of your kids. You call her names and cus her out but you hae no cluea about anything. You all really need lives instead of trying to be in Kathy's. Give it a rest people she was found NOT Guilty.

    Posted by: Ed Location: SBI on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:42 AM
    (Continued) Come back with a not guilty verdict based on the law, but they did not feel good about it, and did I mention several were crying or sobbing when they came back with the verdict?

    Posted by: Ed Location: SBI on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:40 AM
    One sample from Garry was tested for DNA, which he volunteered. One sample from the baby ws tested for DNA. Kathy was tested pursuant to a search warrant. She came back the mother of the baby. She didn't like the result, and her attorneys got the State Police Lab to pay for and conduct a second test where she herself swabbed her cheek and put the swab in the envelope and that one came back identical to the first one. Somehow, in his wisdom, the judge did not allow in evidence of the first test, despite the fact that it was identical to the second. Callie is right, the judge could have ruled against the jury verdict, but that never happens, just like the jury almost never decides a case based on the search for justice and disregards the law as it stands, though they are able to in Indiana. This is one of those cases that is so unique that the law did not serve as a means to the end of justice, but a hinderance. That is based on alleged jurors cying because...

    Posted by: 3Kids4Me on Jul 25, 2008 at 06:15 AM
    To Garry and Kathy et al: A jury of Kathy's peers found her not guilty. Don't listen to the haters that post here. I don't know you but I empathize with your situation. Those that are pointing fingers and throwing stones should put their energies into protecting children from sexual abuse and neglect. I would bet that the haters sit back and pound their keyboards because they are all to busy to advocate in a positive way to help the children in our community. I'm sure CASA and SBCS could use these very people as mentors. Move on with your lives and hold your heads high. Not everyone is a hater. Kathy you are also blessed with a supportive mother. This is something to cherish!

    Posted by: Laura D. Location: Elkhart on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:07 AM
    So at this point is there anything she can be charged with?

    Posted by: Joe Location: Warsaw on Jul 25, 2008 at 03:03 AM
    First of all. How can a person carry a baby full term without being noticed? I have seen pregnant women at 6 mo's and they show like thier ready to have the baby anytime. When was the last time kathy's mom saw here? Was it 6 mo's before? If Gary was involved, why would he call law enforcement that he found a baby? Why not just bury in the back yard? DNA testing has come along way. DNA is the genitic building blocks of every human being. You either match, or you don't. There's no maybe's. I feel everyone in the family knew Gary didn't want another child. So with him finding the baby would make it look like he's innocent. Why would you want to get the law involved if it wasn't anything else? The DNA test reveals the trueth. Born alive or still born? What's it matter. The whole family is involved with the disposal of a new born. For whatever reason. I hope they all can rest at night and someday, they will be judged by a power that we all don't understand. GOD

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 02:10 AM
    To the person that said that maybe she couldn't afford to bury the chil if the baby was born still born which we all know it was not anyways she can't afford to burry he own child but she can afford to hire a scum bag lawyer to defend her. Take care of yourself and just throw your bay away, right Kathy.

    Posted by: Just a Thought Location: LaPorte on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:43 AM
    Hey people. I know the dna said 99.9% hers and gary's. But i know alot of us have the same blood type, not the same blood make up, but type. Don't you think it could have been Gary's and some other womens from rolling prairie and Kathy knew about the affair and agreed to take the blunt of it for her husband? Why did she have another child after this? Maybe she wanted that child to prove that the dna between her, gary and that baby were 99.9%. And that the dna from baby jane doe and her newest baby didn't match. They would have surly had to match if indeed they were the mother and father and both babies would have had to have the same dna work up. Maybe she didn't want the baby exzumed because she was covering for husband all along. Think about that for a minute. Our Police system seems to not be able to solve murders. The weldy murder, rayna, the guy on the church property. I think the baby doe should be re tested for dna and matched with the new baby. That will tell the true story.

    Posted by: a loving mom on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:38 AM
    if you left your baby in a trash bag and lied about being the babys mom sorry but you are a murder and your other children should be taken from u for their safety what would happen if they made mommy mad in the river they go cause she knows she will get away with it

    Posted by: me on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:35 AM
    Seems like another case of the Laporte county police not handling the invistigatiion properly. Like when my niece was killed a couple of years ago. In the police report the lead detective said when he got to the scene that the only 2 people who were in the trailer when she was shot were on the porch with other people. Sure think that after the EMS got there the cops there would have seperated them so they couldn't get their strories straight.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:03 AM
    Pat, people do have lifes and kids they love, that is why they care. maybe you should get a clue, or are you her family or friend? or should i say so call friend, a true friend would not stand by anyone who has done what she did to this little life, she will never have friends and family, maybe thats a blessing, if she was going to be in a family like kathys. dna can be wrong from time to time but they did more then just on dna test. so i think i would think before i type and call other people hypoctiticals. maybe the whole lot of them should seek help. poor poor ella........ god be with her.

    Posted by: Yeah...Right Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:50 PM
    Yay, the trial is over. I bet Kathy and GL are thrilled. Now all they have to figure out is how to dump the child they had to "show" people that if you actually eat while pregnant you can gain weight. They can drop Ella(the ONLY child GL wanted) off at Grandma's (who is obdiviously not all there either-to still be denying that Baby Jane IS 99.9999% her GRANDDAUGHTER) and head out to the local bars and resume their "normal" lives. PLEASE get your tubes tied Kathy, you really don't need any more children you PSYCHO. You will burn in hell for this one day. I am sure you will hear "MURDERER" EVERYTIME you step out in public. I wonder...when you close your eyes to go to sleep-do you hear your baby screaming. No- I am not talking about the baby you let live- I talking about the Baby Jane-the one you MURDERED...

    Posted by: Heidi Location: Goshen on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM
    Brett,I have not followed this closely but I read that she claimed not to be pregnant. She was not charged for this comman occurence but she must have lied somewhere along the line. Doesn't the law have room for accountability?

    Posted by: Pat Location: Earth on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:34 PM
    Don't you people have anything better to do? No one cares about the opinions of all you hypocritical busy bodies. People should think about things they have done in their own lives before they shoot words out of their rear ends. Shame on WNDU and the other local news outlets for being such muckrakers.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:34 PM
    Ok, are you all going to tar and feather her now?

    Posted by: Mother of three Location: Goshen on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:32 PM
    The fact that this woman denies the child was hers is nauseating. How can any woman carry a child inside of her and not feel a sense of responsibility to that baby? How can a husband see his wife in an intimate setting and now realize that she is pregnant, especially when she's had other children with him? Are people really this stupid? Regardless of whether or not this child was born "alive," the fact remains that she tried to hide it from the start. That shows that she is deceitful! To not allow this baby, this beautiful innocent child, to be properly laid to rest is a crime in itself. I cannot believe that she will not face any earthly consequences for her despicable actions. God bless that tiny little life that was ended and may she rest peacefully.

    Posted by: Teresa Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:27 PM
    If people are upset at the verdict, perhaps they should look to the way that the PROSECUTORS presented this case. The jury has said the biggest factor in their decision is what PROSECUTORS did not present or ask. This created reasonable doubt big enough to drive a semi through! The good people of La Porte County might want to change the leadership in the Prosecutor’s Office!

    Posted by: marcia Location: benton harbor,mi on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:26 PM
    if she killed her baby she soon will get her purnishment maybe not today but everyone pay for there mistakes soon or later

    Posted by: Callie Location: Kalamazoo, MI on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:18 PM
    Its like a witch hunt on here. The jury came back with a not guilty vote. If the court truly believed she was guilty the judge could have overruled the decision on the verdict. You were not picked for the jury. who knows why people do what they do. People know its wrong to drink and drive but look how many people continue to do it on a daily basis. So maybe you should back off from her. If she did anything wrong she will be judged in the end. Don't let it happen to you for judging her.

    Posted by: Nicole Location: Stevensville on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:18 PM
    This woman makes me sick. She had a baby that she denied for quite some time, threw it away like dirt, weather still born or not, she threw her precious baby away and never looked back. She is a monster and deserves to rot in prison. Only a sociopathic liar would pull such a crime out and get away with it. I feel sorry for her other daughter that should be taken away from her as well. Why wait until she hurts that child as well? As for babies being stillborn in todays day in age, it is very rare to have a full term stillborn. With fetal monitoring, prenatal care etc, it is almost unheard of, you get a dopplar reading at every appt. if there is an issue you have an NST, then delivery if something is suspected of going wrong, I had a baby at 6.5 months because my water broke prematurely, she is a healthy happy 2.5 year old now. People that say it is common to have stillbirth now days are very uneducated! I am a mommy to a NICU survivor I have seen it all in my daughters long stay there!

    Posted by: Chris Location: Rochester on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:14 PM
    I understand if the baby was stillborn that she my have been scared. But being she said and her husband said she was never pregnant an lying to everyone that watched your news cast. They are worthless and I hope they rot in hell

    Posted by: Jerry Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:10 PM
    Unfortunately, being a dispicable person is not a crime otherwise Kathy Phillips would be sitting in jail right now. Anyone who would discard a human infant as if it were a bag of trash, whether still born or born alive meets the criteria for being a dispicable person in my opinion.

    Posted by: anon Location: nearby on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:43 PM
    Abortion is murder.

    Posted by: !! Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:39 PM
    Sophie ur stupid i would deffinately let her watch my kids

    Posted by: Michelle Location: Niles on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM
    I Cant believe this, I dont care if the baby wasn't born alive, there has to be some kind of law againt dumping a human being in a field in a garbage bag. There has to be another trial for this or there is something really wrong with the system. I dont know how any GOOD mother could do this, reguardless if it was stillborn. My sister had a stillborn baby at full term & we had a proper burial. This is just SICK!!! VERY VERY SICK!!!! You'll pay for this in the end!!!!!!

    Posted by: sad mom on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:22 PM
    to Gary and Kathy we all hate you for what you have done and when your kids are older and realize what you did to their sister they will too! Even if this baby was stillborn only the devilm would dispose of a baby this way!Sick B$#ch!

    Posted by: Jay Location: La Porte on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM
    She was lucky they couldnt prove the baby was born alive, what parent would stuff their baby(alive or still born) into a garbage bag and throw it under a truck cap..

    Posted by: ?? Location: ?? on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:12 PM
    Why couldn't they tell by the babies lungs? If the baby would have taken a breath outside the womb they would have been inflated, proving the baby was alive when it was born

    Posted by: brett Location: south bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:02 PM
    Heidi can not be a trial for perjury.she never took the stand and the husband took the 5th

    Posted by: Shocked on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:48 PM
    All you people out there saying leave here alone she was found Not Guilty are either her family or friends (If she has any left). This was her child that was proven why did she not call 911 and report her baby was stillborn? Come on lets be sensible about this. And to tell me her own husband did not know she was pregnant.... Blows my mind I think my husband would know if I was pregnant. Sick she is very sick and needs to seek proffessional help and I think her husband needs to go right along with her. These two make me sick and all I can call them is scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Madersknot Location: SB on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:40 PM
    She's a murderer.

    Posted by: Sosinski Location: Alabama on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:38 PM
    There is no such thing as proven innocent--it is called INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY--and she was proven NOT guilty. This is not really that hard to comprehend. And I sure don't understand what OJ has to do with this case. Also since you all know so much tell us how the DNA was collected? Do you know how many times it was tested? How many samples were sent in? Who's samples were sent in? Just thought some of you very intelligent people could answer questions the prosecutor couldn't answer.

    Posted by: TDS Location: Alabama on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:13 PM
    Really what is so hard for you all to understand the words "NOT GUILTY"!!

    Posted by: Stu Location: Mill Creek on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:13 PM
    What a waste of everyones time and money. The LaPorte County police & the prosecution really dropped the ball on this one. They should have known months ago that they did'nt have enough evidence to convict her, but they rushed to a trial because they were looking like fools. They were praying that they could sway 12 jurors to convict. Lee Harvey Oswald could have walked in LaPorte County

    Posted by: Tired of this story.. on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:04 PM
    All I have to say is what in the world is Alana Greenfogel going to do now?? What will the news media report on? What will all you nutcases who have all the answers do? My goodness... the end is here. The verdicts been decided. Story over.

    Posted by: Sophie Location: Laporte on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:26 PM
    Dave: Your an IDIOT !!!! Take your children to her house and let her "mother" your children!!!!!! I doubt that you would do that ....But on the hand maybe you would you don't sound to intellegent!!! Get Real and Get a Life!!!! DNA does not LIE!!!!!!

    Posted by: another mother on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:17 PM
    This question is for kathys' mother, Why do you continue to say your daughter was not pregnant during this time.It's common knowledge that she and her wonderful husband are Baby Janes parents. You must be the reason she is the way she is and does the horrible things she does. Maybe if you were a better parent and were not in denial and made your daughter tell the truth none of this would have happened. How can you sleep at night knowing that your grand baby is in an unmarked grave? It is a priveledge to be a grandmother and I don't believe you deserve that. Step up to the plate and talk to your daughter about TRUTH!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Dave Location: LAporte on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:01 PM
    Everyone wants to come up with their own conclusion on how this trial should have ended. The jury made their decision, that is final. I went to school with her, and she was one of the better people. I do believe what she said is true. All of you that say bad things probably do not even know her, you just go off what the papers and news say, so until you know the real person involved you should not judge. Only she really knows what happend, so you should believe her>>>Final.

    Posted by: Heidi Location: Goshen on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:47 PM
    The jury has spoken. Let the perjury trial begin. DNA does not lie. She did.

    Posted by: Deb on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:44 PM
    Is there any way to get the full court transcripts? I think all of us want to know what actually went on in the court room. Couldn't they at least charge her with hindering the investigation because she lied and said the baby wasn't hers?

    Posted by: brett Location: south bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:06 PM
    That baby was never ment to be born or when it was it was going to be sold? Did the police check phone record's or a computor for a baby for sale?Come on hide that your pregnant ,Zero doctor's visit's,New nursury not in home,No new baby stuff.And deny you where never pregnat and it was'nt your's then change your story that yes I was pregnat and yes it was mine. But it was still born.And i'm supose to believe this.Charge them with filing a false police report,abstrution justice,improper disposal of a human body

    Posted by: KR Location: Elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:52 PM
    They know where they will be going on judgement day. How can they live their lives and smile after killing a baby. They deserve to meet the devil.

    Posted by: Indi19 on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:16 PM
    Would exuming Baby Janes body give any more evidence as to whether or not she was born alive? Is this case cut and dry or can they get these two idiots on other charges? I say go after them untill they get whats comming to them!!!! It just seems to me that a more intense autopsy could have or should have been done.There has to be a way that can prove if the chid was stillborn or not.Personally I don't care I still think they are pigs and should be treated accordingly!!!!!

    Posted by: HA Location: Rolling Prairie on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:02 PM
    Can You believe Kathys mother? She still says she knew Kathy was never pregant... in otherwards she is saying that baby with Kathy and Garry's DNA is not her grandchild! DNA DNA DNA, GRANDMA..DNA But, do you know neighbors say she attended the service at Pine Lake when they burried the baby. Seems strange to me she'd be there. Kathy has lied one lie after another lie during all this time. Glad she's not my friend. If she'd kill her own baby, WHO knows what she could do??? I hope someone watches out for her new child. Hope it doesn't die unexpectly. Kathy, Thousands of women would of given anything to have that beautiful baby girl! I wish you'd of given it to one of them to raise! Have you heard "What goes around comes around"? It may take awhile but you will get yours one day. You may get struck with a terrible desease and suffer unbearable pain & suffering (one can only hope).

    Posted by: Mike Location: Mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 05:05 PM
    This couple got away with illegally disposing of their baby, as proven by the DNA results. I hope it haunts them for the rest of their lives.

    Posted by: Ed Location: SBI on Jul 24, 2008 at 05:02 PM
    The jury isa the exclusive judge of the law and the evidence. That's the TRUTH in Indiana, they could have decided however their heart told them to decide, and the judge could not do a thing about it if there was even scant support for their decision. I challenge you Kathy lovers to drop off your children at her house and go to work feeling so confident that she is such a great caring person.

    Posted by: KS on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:59 PM
    To WOW: I'm not ashamed of my self I did nothing wrong!!!!! Just voiced my opinion! Freedom of speech RIGHT? Just as she used the law to protect her!!!On the other hand if you are so PRO Kathy & Her WEirdo family why don't you encourage them to tell the truth (for a change) and own up to what they did. Sex offenders have to register, why shouldn't they have to register for what they did? If they are so INOCENT why didn't either one of them DEFEND themselves? Because they are both LIARS and MURDERS.! I hope CPS checks on the other children in that home. Maybe they will get tired of them and dispose of them also!!!!!!SICK SICK SICK

    Posted by: Needtoknow Location: MC on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:55 PM
    In South Carolina ... The state's Supreme Court noted that it had in earlier cases concluded that "a fetus, having reached that period of prenatal maturity where it is capable of independent life apart from its mother, is a person" and that "a viable fetus, while still in the womb, need not be born alive for another to maintain an action for wrongful death of the fetus."....too bad we live in Indiana....if we did then she might be charged with Neglect of a child....we should petition to change the laws governing what constitues a "person" or a "child" here in the good ol state of Indiana. This is disheartening.

    Posted by: WIllie Location: Niles on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:52 PM
    Can you say OJ? "If the charges don't fit, you must acquit!" I haven't seen prosecutorial incompetence like this since Marcia Clark. That said, it was sickening to see Ms. Ruminski continue to deny her daughter's involvement despite almost incontrovertible evidence that she placed her own dead baby in a trash bag in a field.

    Posted by: MOM on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:45 PM
    To WOW...We WILL NOT leave them alone after what she did to an innocent life! I hope they get run right out of town! People like this don't deserve happiness!

    Posted by: Steve Location: mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:29 PM
    She and O.J. should get together, maybe they could write a book on how to get away with murder.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:25 PM
    The Jury found her NOT GUILTY! End of story, none of us know all the facts, so to sit here and speculate on things we know nothing about is stupid. Obviously, they're wasn't enough evidence against her to convict. If the baby was stillborn and she discarded it, I think a mental evaluation would be appropriate. Even though most of us wouldn't do something like this, not everyone reacts in the same manner. You can't throw the book at someone who may not have been in their right frame of mind after giving birth to a stillborn baby. None of us know how this affected her way of thinking, whether her actions were right or wrong.

    Posted by: GAD on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:16 PM
    Hey "Anonymous at 3:28 p.m." you must be related to her so you shut the hell up because you are one of the few on here that are the idiots!!!!!! They are both murderers and she is far from being innocent. Like I said before you must be related somehow to her to leave a comment like that. You are scum just like they are so shut the hell up and get a clue!!!!

    Posted by: k Location: sb. on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:09 PM
    I'm as sad about the comments on this posting as I am for the baby ... with people being this hateful its no wonder our country is in the shape its in... God will judge you don't have to!!! This is where abortion leads us ...does that surprise you ... it teaches our young people life has no value. This is just the outcome of how we have voted.

    Posted by: mags on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:06 PM
    So what's next for these inhumane scum as they have been called? Is there anything else they can be tried for? I don't know the law,so if anyone out there knows Please respond!!!!I for one am gonna put some more flowers on Baby Janes grave. I attended her funeral and I have not forgotten this inocent little girl. May she rest in peace and may her parents rot in HEL*!!!!!!!!I hope that they both suffer to the fullest extent, What goes around comes around!!!!!! They will get theirs. Yes I believe our God is a loving and forgiving God but they don't even have the courage to admit to the community what they did,( I seriously believe they don't think they did anything wrong) do you really think they will ask for forgiveness from God? I think they are both to selfish and stupid to do that. They have lived this LIE for so long I think they believe it and SHAME On any of you who support either one of them. They are sick and so are YOU!!!!

    Posted by: Lisa Location: La Porte on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:04 PM
    they couldnt prove the baby was born died or alive but they proved it was their baby but for her to throw her baby out like it was trash .. just makes me sick.. what kind of person would do that to a tiny baby..theres a lot of people in La porte that are upset cuz they couldnt get her on neglect.. but shouldnt matter if the baby was died or alive.. im just sick to the someone could do that to there own flesh and blood but theres a pay day coming..

    Posted by: MY OPINION Location: ELKHART on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:03 PM
    People wake up and read what the case is truly about; Kathy Phillips was not on trial for lying about being pregnant or denying to be the mother of the child or denying to have given birth. This case is not about DNA. The case is about murder and child neglect. If nobody can prove that the child was born alive they cannot prove she neglected or murdered the child. DNA may prove the child is hers; it cannot prove the child was born alive or neglected. The prosecution should have choosen their charges better from the beginning. The prosecutions focus of the entire case was always on DNA & who the parents of the child were; thinking that if they could prove Kathy & Gary Phillips were the parents of the child then they would automatically get a guilty of murder & neglect conviction. WRONG. If you are going to place blame it needs to be on the prosecution not the jury.

    Posted by: AMY on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:47 PM
    I dont understand why it is okay to dispose of a body this way, I understand they dont know if the baby was alive or dead when born, but it was proven they are the biological parents and the baby was found in a trash bbag?????? How can this be okay and not a crime??? What has this world come to??? This is truly sickening....

    Posted by: GAD Location: Mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:41 PM
    Kathy and Garry Phillips are just pure scum and please move them to IRAQ and maybe they will end up in a garbage bag. We could only hope for that to happen....

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: Local Resident on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:38 PM
    Kathy Phillips never had any intentions of keeping that baby whether it was born alive or not. She probably took something to kill it before she had it. We all know it was her baby & any good mother would go to a doctor to be checked out. There are no records of her being pregnant because she hid it the whole time. She already had one kid she cant say she never knew she was pregnant. Bottom line she never had any plans on keeping that baby. Wonder what she took to kill it??

    Posted by: CT Location: laporte on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:37 PM
    I was in the courtroom every day,heard all wittnesses,saw the film,heard the recording,saw baby's picture in the bloody towel.The jury knows that the baby belongs to Kathy & Gary, DNA proved that. If I'd of been on the jury, I'd of also had to vote "Not Guilty", not because I believe personally that she is, but because of the way the law reads, and the expert Doctor could Not be sure if the baby was born alive. I would never want to convict an innocent person.Don't blame the jury. In all respects,according to the law,they had no other choice.I believe they did their personal best. If they could convict Kathy on the NEGLECT charge, they would not hesitate, but since it couldn't be proved the baby was alive,the law is you can't get her for neglect. The QUESTIONS I'm sure everyone wants answers to is...WHY?? Why deny your child? Why not call 911? Why not properly bury your baby, like something valued,wanted, and loved ? GOD KNOWS & GOD SAW! Kathy will pay in this lifetime or the next!

    Posted by: Erin Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:35 PM
    What bothers me most was Kathy's attitude during each phase of this trial. Regardless of guilt, there is nothing lighthearted about a dead baby abandonded in a field. Yet, every time you saw this woman on television she was smiling or laughing. Even if she is not a killer, she is clearly inappropriate and a disgrace to motherhood. Even if the baby was stillborn and I think that is a mighty big "if," she still acted in a disgraceful way. I hope she and her husband get themselves fixed...

    Posted by: kayla Location: granger on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:35 PM
    she is wayyyy guilty.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:28 PM
    Hey idiots, the state had the burden of proof. They failed to prove the case. The law states innocent until proven guilty. This woman is innocent. Now please shut the hell up.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:27 PM
    There is no doubt that Kathy Philips is the mother of this baby. However, the prosecution failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she killed the baby and that the baby had been born alive.

    Posted by: scott Location: michiana on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:16 PM
    So if Baby Jane Doe was, thru DNA, proven (99.9%) to be their daughter, & the "expert" testified that the bag that she was stuffed into matched an existing bag that was found in their house, what does that make kathy & Gary Phillips guilty of? Besides the murder charge which cannont be proven, can they be found guilty of anything? Maybe Kathy wants to be LaPorte Counties latest "Lady Bluebeard" (Belle Gunness)

    Posted by: Kathy Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:11 PM
    People, you can rant and rave all you want on here, but that is not going to change anything. The jury found her not guilty! That doesn't mean she is innocent, it just means that they couldn't prove that she committed murder and neglect. I really do hope that they try to get her for other charges, IE Improper disposal of a body (but then, can't prove she was the one who put the baby in the bag and left it in the woods) Lying to police, something. I think instead of all the anger being pointed at the jury, maybe it should be pointed at the prosecutors office for not better preparing their case. Can't prove murder if they can't prove life! But, it doesn't do any good for so many to be getting so angry and making threats on here. Do something constructive like writing to your elected officials. Volunteering for organizations that help the homeless, abused, mentally challenged, etc. It makes you feel like you are making a difference and not just pointing fingers/name calling!

    Posted by: Abe Location: Elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:03 PM
    There is no doubt in my mind that Kathy Phillips is the mother of this baby. The prosecution just couldn't prove she was the one who murdered the child. It is beyond me why both her and her husband continue to deny being the parents. The best thing for this couple to do is move out of LaPorte County. Even though she is off the hook, they both will be skating on thin ice for the rest of their lives.

    Posted by: mike Location: south bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:53 PM
    kathy, i hope you hear the cry of a baby in your sleep the rest of your life. GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Duke Location: SB on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:48 PM
    To WOW, She was not proven innocent!! They could not prove murder but it was proven that this was their child. They need to come clean and tell the truth and maybe they would get a lttle more respect. They have no right to get on with their lives, Baby Jane didn't have that right.

    Posted by: Dumfounded Location: Ohio on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:36 PM
    to "WOW" that posted at 1:27 PM. There's a big difference between being found "not guilty" and being "innocent". She was not "proven innocent" as you stated. The jury apparently did not have enough evidence to put her behind bars. But explain this, since you seem to be so sympathetic to her... DNA proved that it was her baby and that her husband was the father, so if SHE didn't dump the baby, then WHO DID? I'm not ashamed at all to say that I think she needs to pay for what she did. She is a piece of scum as far as I'm concerned.

    Posted by: Todd Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:34 PM
    She is a killer..but abortion is ok? How do you figure that?

    Posted by: Lies, Lies and More Lies Location: Niles on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:32 PM
    What kind of mother would lie or hide the fact that she is pregnant???? Then dispose of the body. The fact remains that the DNA proves that they were the parents. So why not just admit to it. It seems that people are forgetting that, just because the jury said "not guilty" that was only for murder. DNA is DNA that is what they use to convict rapists and murders all the time but in this case I guess Kathy is exempt from this. Did they not have enough money for another kid or did they want a free funeral. Only she knows the truth and she will have to live with what she has done until the day she dies, then she will answer to GOD! May God Bless all the little angels in heaven that never had a chance here on earth.

    Posted by: Hmmmm on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:22 PM
    Luanne, I think you are incorrect. I am fairly sure that the jury understood how DNA works. As people keep repeating on here, (and the prosecutor herself admitted.) It was the fact that they couldn't prove that the baby was actually alive at birth. The experts couldn't say if the baby ever took a breath. As has been stated over and over again. The trial was not about whether Kathy lied about being pregnant or lied about giving birth. It was about whether she killed this child. And there was no proof if this child had ever lived to begin with.

    Posted by: anon on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:20 PM
    i bet there will be a FOR SALE sign in their yard very soon! well, let's hope anyway! move out of the country, maybe to Iraq or something, please!

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:20 PM
    If the DNA doesn't fit you must accquit!Free O.J.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:12 PM
    The defense never brought up DNA in its closing, did not even discuss it or dispute it. For those of you who thought DNA was the key issue in the case, congratulations - you've been tricked.

    Posted by: Ed Location: SBI on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:11 PM
    Kathy was not found "innocent!" She was found not guilty by default. Innocent means you have done nothing wrong, not guilty means that the jury (for whatever reason) is not finding you guilty. Not guilty we have to accept, "innocent"-NO WAY! You must be as delusional as her mother who still says she was not pregnant!

    Posted by: GAD Location: Mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:01 PM
    Hey "Wow at 12:27 p.m". You need help just as much as Kathy and her husband do. We can bash these 2 monsters because thats exactly what they are. Im not ashamed of myself at all but you should be ashamed for typing what you did. The trial maybe over and she was proven innocent but as you can see by all the comments they have alot of enemies. I guess you are approving of what they did so you are just as crazy. They both are going to have a rough time living their lives because alot of people are disgusted by them and their actions. I guess killing your baby and disposing of it is ok in your book so you keep living in that dreamland you are in. Like I said before they better leave Laporte because there are more haters than supporters on here. Get a clue "Wow from Laporte"!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: SLG Location: N. Judson on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:01 PM
    No matter if Kathy is innocient or guilty we should not judge her or threaten her as that would make us no better than the rest. If Kathy is guilty she will have to live with that on her heart for the rest of her life. It is done and it is over. We might or might not agree with the decision but we need to move on and just pray for her soul.

    Posted by: mandy Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:57 PM
    I was so shocked and upset to read she(Kathy) was found not guilty! How could the jury see and here all of the evidence and come to that conclusion. Dna PROVED Kathy and Gary were the parents! Even if she was distraught, she could have called the police,an ambulance someone! Gary is just as guilty as Kathy is also! Come on, how could you not know your wife, who you see every day was pregnant! I just had a baby and I feel it's impossible to not know!! I really feel sorry for the two other children who are living in that home. Her mother is also as guilty because just about every daughter tells her mother everything. Especially if she is pregnant. She should be punished also. I really hope they(Kathy&Gary) consider moving out of town!

    Posted by: TB Location: North of the Line on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:52 PM
    I read a lot of post here and I guess I don't understand. You all condemn of curse this couple for doing the same thing that happens everyday in this country over and over again and again. Do we demand justice for those babies that die in the abortion houses in our community? Do we demand a decent burial for those babies who die, some half way through the burthing process? Do we hear about couples or Doctors being put on trial and being found guilty for these atrocious acts? NO to all. And By the way, according to the grace of God (Her Creater) forgivness is avalible, just like it is for ALL the rest of us. All she has to do is ask with a truly broken heart. Oh, What do we need forgiven for, "Judge not, Lest ye also will be Judged."

    Posted by: Ed Location: SBI on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:46 PM
    The jury instructions and case law from the courts (especially our illustrious Court of Appeals) have gotten so ridiculous, I can see why the jury might have thought they did not have a choice. There are only two people who know for sure what happened to that sweet baby: the innocent girl and the guilty mother. I don't fault the prosecutor and the cops for not making up more evidence than the killer left for them to find. I wonder if Kathy will keep hearing those 2 am feeding cries for the rest of her life or if her delusional mind will insulate her from her crime?

    Posted by: Billy Location: Laporte on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:34 PM
    Hey,whats everyone so upset about? Women kill their children everyday. Its called abortion,and its legal. What a great society we have.

    Posted by: Luanne Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:31 PM
    I find the jurors guilty of ignorance! They simply don't understand how DNA works and aren't willing to go against what they don't understand.

    Posted by: WOW Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:27 PM
    Every single last one of you on here bashing Kathy, her husband, and her family should be ashamed of yourselves. The trial is over she was proven innocent. Leave Kathy and her family alone and let them live their lives.

    Posted by: Jen Location: Mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:14 PM
    I can not believe that she was found no guilty on both counts! She should have at least been charged with "Neglect of a Dependent". If the baby was stillborn, why not call for help! And as far as I'm concerned her husband is as guilty as she is. All I know is that if I every want to kill someone and get away with it, I'll go to LaPorte.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:09 PM
    YOU KNOW IM SORRY I MUST HAVE FORGOT YOU ALL ARE JUDGES, LAWYERS, AND LAW MAKERS AND YOU ALL HAVE ALL THE RIGHT ANSWERS.

    Posted by: Confused on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:07 PM
    the DNA proved she and husband were the parents (correct?). DID they (she) finally admit to being the parents?? OK and even if she admitted, AND even IF the baby was still born (and she was distressed) ummm what about the baby?? Isnt there some sort of punishment for this???? or help for her????

    Posted by: MI Location: Michigan on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:06 PM
    As far as improper disposal of a body...2 years ago someone from Chicago dumped a body in the woods next to our house. The man died from a drug overdose & the woman who was with him didn't know what to do with the body so she put it in her trunk & dumped it in the woods. The only thing that they could charge her with in Michigan was littering!!!

    Posted by: j Location: sbn on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:04 PM
    sounds like you people had better start packing your bags and move on before you get lynched........even if that baby was stillborn you should be ashamed for abandoning the poor little thing in a cold field all alone. you are a monster kathy phillips. the worst things should happen to you every day of the rest of your miserable life! it was proven that the baby was yours, but you still insist that the baby wasn't yours. how stupid do you think people are? tell me, what was the cost of the payoff to be found not guilty? i can't stress enough how horrible and cold you both are!! i hope you think about what you did every day of your life, but someone with no conscience probably won't. you are not guilty in your own warped little mind. GOD will serve justice on you. you will never see heaven.....where your little girl is now.

    Posted by: Parent Location: With my kids on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:02 PM
    We all know what she did is sick and very wrong! Seems like a back alley abortion to me. She and her husband will have to live with what they did forever and pay for thier sins later. RIP Baby Doe.

    Posted by: Slade Location: Mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:02 PM
    Injustice for that poor little baby....now it will be swepted under the carpet. I don't think they can try her again. The prosecutors really blew this one but Hey!its Laporte. What good is DNA now that a jury has ruled it out.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:01 PM
    THIS IS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE THAT THINKS THEY COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB THEN THE JURY DID WITH THE WAY THE "LAW" IS WROTE, HAVE AT IT. GOD BE WITH YOU IF YOU THINK YOU CAN GO ABOVE THE LAW. MY HEART IS A MESS THAT I HAD TO VOTE NOT GUILTY, BUT I LIVE IN THE IN THIS COUNTERY SO I LIVE BY THE LAW. NO MATTER HOW I SPELL OR NOT SPELL.

    Posted by: lynn Location: goshen on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:01 PM
    This is a prime example of laws that need to be changed. WE are the ones that elect the people who change them. Her child..no doubts here....if they couldn't prove she killed this baby, it's inconcevable to most of us that there would be no other charges filed. But that's because of the written laws. Pick up your pens and start writting! Let's not let this baby's death (no matter the circumstances) be for nothing.

    Posted by: GAD on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:00 PM
    All I can say is Kathy and Garry are both sick in the head and shame on both of them. For someone like myself who could not have kids and then you read about this monster (Kathy) that killed her child then put it in a garbage bag. I have no respect for this monster at all. She deserves to rot in hell with her husband as well. They are 2 sick monsters that dont deserve to be on this earth. I cant believe the ruling made on her. Hey Kathy and Garry you have alot of enemies now so I would watch your back. They are just pure scum and what they did really shows theirs true colors!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Anon Location: Mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM
    To Mommy: I have three beautiful, healthy children of my own. I lost my niece two years ago. It was my sister's first baby. They knew ahead of time that the child would not make it into the world alive. It was the hardest thing for our family to cope with. My sister carried the baby full term knowing all along that she would never get to hear the sweet sound of the miracle that was given to her. At the same time we all knew that God had done this for a reason. Just because she never took a breathe of fresh air doesn't mean that she wasn't a person, that she didn't have a soul. Everyone in the community pitched in to help our family with the burial and all the other arrangements. Kathy could have gotten help, instead of taking out the trash. May God bless this baby girl. May God give her the justice she deserves.

    Posted by: J Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:51 PM
    Kathy and GL you always been know as baby killers in this town, plus all of your friends know you are guilty!!!!

    Posted by: In response to "None" on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM
    She was not found "innocent", she was found not guilty which means there was reasonable doubt, enough to not be able to convict. Get your facts straight. Who in your fictional little world is the "person who really did it?" DNA has proven they are the parents. She did it all right, whether that be killing her baby or just discarding her in a trash bag if she was stillborn. Either way she is a monster. She did SOMETHING and should have to face consequences of some kind. Even if they couldn't prove she killed the baby, there should be consequences for discarding her like trash. Kathy Phillips is pure evil and should not be allowed to have more children. I hope she suffers every day of her miserable life for this.

    Posted by: Fired Up Location: SB on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM
    Dear Carla, her softball team plays on Thursdays. Tonight at 8 and next Thursday at 7. In LaPorte. Come cheer her on celebrate with her. I will be there to help YOU!

    Posted by: None Location: Here on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:27 PM
    Guess that there are some people that believe a person is guilty no matter what, even if a jury doesn't. I suppose if God finds her innocent, then he's wrong too. Ever think that instead of WASTING all your time condemning someone that was found INNOCENT, find the person that really did it! Carla?

    Posted by: J Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:26 PM
    Kathy and her mom know the baby was hers, why would Kathy mom go to the baby funeral...I will always know her as a baby killer

    Posted by: Mike Location: Warsaw on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:24 PM
    The State must prove by testimony that a murder was committed before anyone can be convicted of murder. There was no testimony that the baby was born alive or dead. If she had been convicted of anything the verdict would have been overturned on appeal and all of this would be relived again.

    Posted by: Myrt on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:20 PM
    MURDER - that is what she was tried for. REASONABLE DOUBT - it was not proven the baby was alive at birth. I've been on a jury and you don't get to hear everything; most of the time you are locked in the jury room while the case is being discussed between the lawyers and the judge. Also, were the charges stacked? If she had to be guilty of both counts, that could have prevented her from being found guilty for neglect. As much as it sickens me, the jury DID DO their jobs. I'm sure there are a couple of jury members who aren't happy with the outcome of the trial either, but their hands are tied with regard to what evidence they can consider. While deep in my soul, I think the Phillips are guilty I cannot condemn the jury - I for one knew in the beginning when I heard they couldn't verify that Baby Jane was a live birth they wouldn't be able to prosecute her. So much for justice.....

    Posted by: Me Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:17 PM
    Well isn't that scary that the juror can't even spell BABY correctly... it's baby not BABE.

    Posted by: Melissa Location: SB on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:12 PM
    Well said Carla, I'm with you.

    Posted by: Anon Location: S. Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM
    TO: Posted by: ADAMS Location: FLORIDA on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:42 AM Are you stupid?! A "good person" does NOT put a baby they just gave birth to (whether alive or stillborn) in a trash bag and dump it like it meant NOTHING to them! A "good person" doesn't LIE about the baby being their own until she "has to" because DNA proved she was lying, he was lying and laughing/having a bawl whenever I saw her on the news. Good person? Who the hell do YOU hang out with?!

    Posted by: T Location: Michigan City on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM
    Kathy and Garry-you both will one day have to face God and answer for this! I wasn't present in that courtroom and didn't hear all the facts or evidence, only what the media lets us hear but you can't argue with DNA results. You are that dead little girls parents wether you wanted to be or not. She was found on my sons third birthday, and while we were celebrating our sons birth you were throwing your child out like a piece of trash. If she wasn't born alive WHY DID YOU THROW HER AWAY? If I am correct to say you were a paralegal, you know the laws, is that how you got off? You have to look at yourselves everyday, hope your strong enough to live with the guilt of JUST THROWING HER AWAY. I am not saying you killed her, it is very possible she was dead at birth, but WHY DID YOU THROW HER AWAY? I hope you both get some real good counseling, you need it! Becuase your are absolutely FXXXXXG CRAZY to be able to sit there and smile and laugh on camera while you were on trial for this. RIP baby.

    Posted by: Shocked & Saddened Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM
    I can't believe Kathy's mother, Marcia is still denying that the deceased child was her daughter's.Even if Kathy wasnt obviously sporting her big belly and hid it well, the scientific evidence should be proof enough to convince her otherwise. She either is in complete denial or Im just not sure what.(DNA doesnt lie Mom!) So the big question is why did she not go for help if in fact her baby was stillborn instead of dumping it.An innocent person who had nothing to hide would have called for help and given their child a proper burial. This was a circumstantial case and the circumstances spelled GUILT. Im shocked and saddened that the jury did not see it that way.

    Posted by: Anon Location: S. Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:59 AM
    It is official - anyone can do anything, say anything, deny it until the end and will not pay any price for their lies, deceptions and misdeeds. What a "great" society we live in - I'm so tired of the trash around here... it comes in ALL shapes, sizes and colors. I hope she's prepared because she WILL answer to her own maker one day and I doubt that God is going to let her off as easy as these jurors did. I hope they spay her!

    Posted by: Bridgette Location: Mishawaka on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM
    Hey Kathy, you did this to your baby and guess what, you have to live this day forward knowing what you did. Believe me, it will haunt you in time. You are the one who knows the truth and you couldn't even be honest about that....

    Posted by: Can't Believe on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM
    To Mommy, if she was so distraught, why didn't she show it during the trial. Evey picture I saw of her she was smiling. I just can't get past her denying it was even hers. 99.99% is pretty damning evidence it was theirs to me.

    Posted by: satisfied Location: elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM
    for Kim.....Burden of proof lies with the prosecution.

    Posted by: Carla Location: SB on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM
    To Mommy at 10:41 AM--You are a scary individual and it doesn't matter if you "can't afford" to bury your child. You do what you have to do. It's a HUMAN LIFE, stupid!! Did she look distraught in the pictures of the courtroom as she's smiling and chomping on gum? Umm, NO! She wasn't distraught! She's #&*%!* in the head and so are you!

    Posted by: terry Location: rp on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:34 AM
    I remeber a while ago when a mentally handicaped young lady from the westville area also had a baby and they found this baby in a feild near her home she is now doing her time for her crime it still goes as the old saying says it is who you are lets look at this bon one hand you have a women who didnot know what she was doing and on the other hand you have a very smart women that ia let go for basiclly the same crime justice ha ha

    Posted by: Carla Location: SB on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:30 AM
    Kathy, I want you to know something. I know what you did. You are a murderer. How does it feel to know you killed a baby or at the very least disposed of a baby like the TRASH YOU ARE. I hope the memory of that child haunts you for the rest of your life. Also know that there are a LOT of upset people in this community and you never know what or who is around the corner waiting for you. To all the people who thinks she's innocent, you are just as sick and twisted as she is. I hope I never run into this monster because I will announce to everyone around that we have a BABY KILLER present. You sick, dimented freak. Just because you were let go doesn't mean God won't punish you when it's your turn to die. And when that happens I hope you are put in a trash bag and rot there. It's where you belong.

    Posted by: Kim Location: Elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:25 AM
    How can the prosecution lose this case? What type of people do we have in that office? The defense did not call a single witness and the prosecutors lose-a guilty woman walks away a free person. How sad. She'll be able to do this again to another baby.

    Posted by: terry Location: rp on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:20 AM
    comments to mommy If you dont have the finances to bury some one the county will do its called a pauper grave go by and look at there house probably one to two hundredthousand doller range I wonder were you on the jury i hope laporte co retrys this case there is alaw of imprpoer dispoal of a body in this atate

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:18 AM
    women do it everyday when they make the decision to have a abortion. why should this lady be any different?

    Posted by: Sad Location: SBI on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:16 AM
    I have to say that I am truly unhappy with the way the jury handled the decision. With that said only Kathy and the baby knows what happened. If anything I do believe that she is in fault of neglect. How unfortunate that she had not enough love for her child that she couldn't just leave it at a hospital alive or dead. Instead she thought that throwing it away like Sunday's garage is what her child deserved. I know its not whether she killed the child or not, but just the fact that the DNA matched her and her husband has to make everyone think. I hope she doesn't decide to bring another child in this world, what a shame as a woman and a mother,what a shame.

    Posted by: Needtoknow Location: MC on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:13 AM
    If she is not guilty then why did she refuse to exhume the body to clear her name. That was her opportunity to stop the rumors...if that doesn't scream guilt I don't know what does.

    Posted by: Justice for all Location: goshen on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM
    I would like to think that most people would tend to their own business first before judging others, after reading these comments on this trial, it just assured me that there are alot of ignorant and judgemental people in this world. I wish people would think before speaking about others, otherwise it just makes them look that much more ignorant. Please remember, it was the states job to try her for murder and neglect. Of course the DNA proved a match, but she wasn't on trial for being pregnant or lying about it. The defense won in this case because the state could not prove otherwise. Only God knows the truth and God will take care of it. So let it be for Him to decide.

    Posted by: Hmmm Location: LP on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:53 AM
    I say they need to continue the investigation! Maybe it's GL's baby but with someone else! Hmmmmm???!!!

    Posted by: Mommy on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:41 AM
    Anyone ever lose a child? What if Kathy lost the baby, and was so distraught? What if they couldn't afford to bury the child? Don't throw rocks. Walk a mile in her shoes first.

    Posted by: Jerry Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:33 AM
    The truth is the justice system leaves for the out. All you people that are so upset don't hate on the jury or even Kathy. Human nature is what it is and if she did do it she, in her instinct, fought for a way out of it. The "justice" system allows for that. The issue never came down to whether she was the mother, but rather whether the baby was born alive or dead. The neglect charge I do not understand. Born dead or alive dna gives reason to assume shes the mother and the fact that by a 99.9% probability combined with t he garbage bag and towel connections I would imagine the neglect charge would have been a certainty. I don't understand how with all the high tech tools we have the death was undetermined!!!

    Posted by: Kathy on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:32 AM
    Wow, I cannot believe the hateful comments that I am reading here. The majority of you already had her tried and convicted even before she went to trial. You know, the trial was not whether she was the mother of this child. It was whether she killed this baby and whether she was neglectful to it. I couldn't see how she could have been convicted of the murder charge as the experts couldn't make the determination of whether the child was actually born alive. The neglect I thought they may have had a chance to pin on her though. I dont know if any of you were in the courtroom, but unless you were there, you did not hear all of the evidence. Only bits that the news media granted us with. I think the jury did the best they could with the information they had. I am just glad I wasn't on the jury, because I am sure this had to be one of the hardest decisions that they have ever had to make. So, please stop stoning them. Sheesh, it is like the Salem Witch Trials on here!!

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:31 AM
    I WANT YOU TO KNOW FROM ME ONE THAT SAT IN THE JURY BOX, THE FACTS WERE THERE THAT THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MINE AT ALL THAT THE BABE WAS HER'S AND HER SCARED LITTLE HUBBYS, BUT THE STATE DID NOT PROVE THE BABY WAS ALIVE AT BIRTH. IT IS SO SAD THAT THE STATE CAN'T COME UP WITH A NEW LAW ABOUT ALIVE OR LIVING. YES THE BABE WAS ALIVE IN HER BELLY, BUT WAS THE BABE LIVING WHEN BORN. I FEEL WITH ALL MY HEART THAT SHE WILL HAVE TO FACE HER MAKER AND JUSTICE WILL BE DONE. WHAT SHE DID WITH HER BABE WAS BEYOND COMPRESSION BY A NORMAL PERSON, BUT HER AND HER WHOLE FAMILY HAS TO LIVE WITH IT THE REST OF THERE LIVES, THAT THERE DAUGHTER, SISTER, FRIEND AND WIFE PUT HER BABY OUT LIKE A CAN OF TRASH. LET SEE SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN HOW OLD TODAY? SUCH A SHAME. ONE THING I JUST HOW I CAN FORGIVE MYSELF FOR FINDING HER NOT GUILTY, I JUST WISH THE STATE COULD GET HER ON SOME OTHER CHARGE THAT COULD BE PROVED 100%. NO ONE SHOULD EVER GET AWAY WITH A CRIME LIKE THIS. NO ONE.

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    Posted by: Kasey Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:24 AM
    How is she NOT guilty? Obviously it was her baby and obviously the baby is not alive. How is that not her fault? Even if the baby were stillborn don't you have a certain obligation to report such things? What an outrage.

    Posted by: LW on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:14 AM
    This is ridiculous. The jury, Kathy and Gary have it coming. I could see if she admitted to it and said the baby was stillborn, but she denies it is even her child. They could have found her guilty of neglect of a dependent, at the very least!

    Posted by: MM on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:13 AM
    the prosecution couldn't prove their case so she had to be found not guilty. just like oj. at least this time it's easier to prove she was guilty thanks to dna of the baby. but they couldn't prove the case to a jury of HER PEERS?! so she has to be let go.

    Posted by: brenda Location: granger on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:13 AM
    to meagan in elkhart...sure there may be stillbirths, etc. but to throw your baby away like garbage..does that little innocent baby deserve that??? i hope kathy can live with the guilt...i doubt it. if she does, she's a monster. a good mother.

    Posted by: Carrie Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:01 AM
    How can she be not guilty? The baby was proven to be hers. How can someone get away with murder? What kind of justice is that? What kind of future does things like this hold for our younger generation? It's not okay to have a child and then thow them away like they were trash. This just sends the wrong message to the younger generation. I think she should pay the price for what she did! GUILTY!!!!!!

    Posted by: happy with verdict Location: elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:01 AM
    Legally, the parents didn't lie, they were never put under oath. Mental health issues are screaming out here..no one in their right mind would act this way. We had a family member years ago after she had a baby, went out of her mind and never left a mental hospital. All I can say reading people's comments is that ignorance is reinging supreme here.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:56 AM
    Ugh Wrote "They had DNA evidence! You can't disprove that" Yeah, thats what Nancy Grace would say also. Make abortion unlawful also, not much different then what happend here.

    Posted by: s Location: bremen on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:53 AM
    How could they convict her of murder if they couldn't prove the baby took a breath? Even as she walks free from this, she will ultimately pay for it in the end when she is before God on judgement day.

    Posted by: r u kiddin me?! Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:48 AM
    I'm with ya, Angry... LaPorte is home for all freaks and murderers alike. We don't have enough intelligence to put together any kind of police squad nor judge. The jury just wanted to go home. The piece of crap is guilty and there was MORE than enough evidence to prove it. Of course her fam is gonna support her... who's wouldn't? I'm ashamed to admit I'd ever known her. Those who back her know the truth, just don't want to admit it. How was there not enough evidence? They found the roll of garbage bags in the attic that match the one found carrying the baby! GL lied multiple times to the cops to begin with! Baby was never under the truck cap! THE BABY WAS THEIRS! Oh, yeah, for those who are supporting her worthless-baby-killin butt, DNA lies... sure it does. Too bad in any other county and state, DNA proves to be VERY right. That's ok, Kathy, ol' buddy... the 2 girls you decided to keep (u know, the first one and then the 2nd you had to prove to us that you can be a fatty...) they know.

    Posted by: nimrod Location: laporte on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:47 AM
    Just remember, karma is a wonderful thing

    Posted by: ADAMS Location: FLORIDA on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:42 AM
    The shame is that this town is filled with ignorant people that don't understand the difference between town gossip and actual facts. The facts are what cleared Kathy! Yet your ignorance will never change! Kathy is a great person and she should be cleared.

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:39 AM
    great job by the prosecutors, (not)

    Posted by: Ugh Location: LaPorte on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:32 AM
    This woman is evil. Smiling and laughing during the trial, knowing what she did. And what the h*ll is wrong with the jury?! They had DNA evidence! You can't disprove that! This entire trial disgusts me. That jury let a murderer walk free. I don't know how they will be able to sleep at night. As for that Phillips woman, I sincerely hope she does not live around here any longer, because I never want to accidentally see her around town. I wouldn't be able to disguise my disgust for her.

    Posted by: Les on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:30 AM
    Good job jury. The deputy prosecutor said it in her own words." the best CIRCUMSTANTIAL case that we could." Facts ans evidence not roamers and circumstance. Sounds like most of you forget INNECENE UNTIL PROVED guilty. You all must have been the same people that were at the Salem witch hunts. You all need to practice GODS #1 rule forgiveness.

    Posted by: Sue on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:15 AM
    I think the prosecution proved that the baby was Kathy's. It appears there wasn't enough evidence to convict her of murder. It's very possible that the baby was stillborn, but it seems to me that she should at least be charged with abuse of a corpse. What kind of mother throws her baby out like trash? There is no excuse for it. Her arrogant attitude throughout the trial and the way she was constantly smiling and chomping on her gum when she was on camera was disgusting. I don't think an innocent person who was on trial for anything would be smiling and laughing so much. She should be ashamed of herself.

    Posted by: i'm a disgusted mother 2 on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:11 AM
    I DONT SEE HOW ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY THINK ITS OK TO DO SOMETHING SO CRUEL. ITS ONE THING IF YOU HAD A STILLBORN BABY. BUT WHY WOULDN'T YOU CALL FOR HELP?? WHY WOULD YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO WRAP THAT POOR BABY GIRL IN A BAG AND PLACE HER IN A FIELD BEHIND YOUR OWN HOUSE. THIS HAS TO BE THE MOST SICKENING THING. I AM A MOTHER OF TWO, AND I COULD NOT IMAGINE MY LIFE WITHOUT MY KIDS. AND I COULD NEVER EVER IMAGINE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO ANYTHING.... A BABY OR AN ANIMAL. ITS SO SAD TO THINK A MOTHER OF HER OWN WOULD BRING HERSELF TO DO SOMETHING SO WRONG.

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    Posted by: L. Location: La Porte on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:10 AM
    I just don't understand what everyone was thinking.......Why was she not guilty of abandonment at least.......She let someone else bury her child under Jane Doe and never stepped forward.....One day she will be punished and only God will know when.

    Posted by: no name Location: laporte on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:08 AM
    i think that it is so sad that a little girl had to loose her life because the mother did't want her. i truley believe that kathy was guilty and that she should of paid for the price the only thing in my opinion that saved her was that the detective that passed away, they said that he had alot of crucial evidence

    Posted by: Can't Believe on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:06 AM
    I feel horrible for that poor baby. Not only is she dead, but her parents won't even acknowledge that she even theirs. What horrible people. In a sad way, the baby is probably better off. Who would want to have parents like them? I'm just disgusted. Hope I never run into either of them.

    Posted by: are you kidding me Location: sb on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:05 AM
    This is crazy. The DNA matched. Since it WAS their baby, why was it just left dead or left to die? Unreal.

    Posted by: Dumbfounded Location: Northern, IN on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:05 AM
    I have followed this trial from the onset. I find it highly suspect that since the defense attorney was objecting to most everything, and had no "expert" witnesses to refute the DNA, why he was not put in check by the judge. In any event, he HAD to throw smoke because he had no case. Sure, it may have been a stretch to prove murder, however, let's think about why both Mr. and Mrs. Phillips would lie about how their own child came to be wrapped up in plastic bags and thrown out like the garbage. If the child was stillborn, that is tragic, but not criminal in nature and they know it. Why did they lie about the circumstances about finding the child, and why did they lie about being the parents of the child? Apparently the jury could not read between the lines. Sure, we can argue about whether the child was alive or not, however, we should all agree that discarding a newborn infant and then lying about it raises questions. No one in their right mind would do what they did.

    Posted by: a on Jul 24, 2008 at 09:01 AM
    You all should trust in your fellow peers, the jurors. When the Judge makes a statement on how he would rule if it was a bench trial, its pretty telling.

    Posted by: disgusted Location: Ohio on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:53 AM
    This makes me feel absolutely sick to my stomach. I questioned if they could find her guilty of murder because of not being able to prove that the baby was born alive. But come on - DNA proved that she and her husband were the parents of that baby, and if dumping your child in a garbage bag isn't neglect, I don't know what is. I hope they can charge her with something else (abuse of a corpse, SOMETHING) because she needs to pay for what she did. I am absolutely sick over this.

    Posted by: Knew this would happen Location: SB on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:49 AM
    Go to LaPorte and get away with murder. The husband pleads the 5th and she's found not guilty. DNA was 99.99% that baby was theirs. I'd like to know the education level of the jurors. You can get any closure percentage than 99.99%. Congratulations LaPorte, another murderer back on the street. Kathy Phillips if you read this may God have mercy on your soul when you stand before Him for judgement!

    Posted by: Mother of 2 Location: Elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:45 AM
    I can only state how disgusted I am with the verdict in this case. Being a mother of two and expecting my 3rd child in a few months, I can't not believe how a mother could do something so horrific to her own child and be let off so easily. There are so many women in this world who would want nothing more than to be a mother and due to health or infertility are unable to experience the joys of motherhood. This sick women who was given the most precious gift in the world took it upon herself to destroy an innocent life!!! I don't know how she will be able to live her life with this hovering over her head!! She is an awful person and a very sorry excuse for a mother. I love my children with all my heart, would give my life for them and cherish each and every moment I have with them. I thank god every day for giving me the opportunity to be a mom! It is amazing how this individual had the heart to do something so awful. She should have been punished for doing such an awful thing!!

    Posted by: Linda Location: Granger on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:44 AM
    Is everbody nuts? I've read what the evidence was in this trial. Seems to me there should have been no doubt that she was guilty. What about the DNA, the blood in the bathroom, the plastic bags that came from the same roll. If she's NOT guilty then I'm the Easter Bunny. Another one gets away with murder.

    Posted by: Ed Location: SBI on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:43 AM
    I am getting disgusted with how ridiculous the justice system is getting. The Defendant's have all the rights, and the trial is no way close to fair anymore. Every case that comes down erodes the prosecutor's ability to conduct a trial and put on evidence. Every case that comes down further restricts the police's ability to investigate. In this case, it seems that the defense had the run of the place, and the judge did little to curb it and maintain decorum and fairness. What about fairness for the State of Indiana? You know, those of us who work pay taxes and just want to live good lives. What about fairness for that sweet baby? That's the State of Indiana the system is getting so slanted against, me and you. It sickens me that the jurors felt like this was their only option given the constraints placed upon them. They should have been free to follow the evidence and apply their common sense and find justice. Rant over.

    Posted by: Me Location: North Liberty on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:43 AM
    Even if they couldn't find the exact cause of death - therefore no muder, but since they found she was the mother, she should have been charged of neglect or somehting. What if I found a dead body in my yard and transported it to another location, couldn't I be charged w/something since I didn't go to the police?

    Posted by: Alan Location: Elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:41 AM
    People have been convicted of murder on less evidence thats for sure. When a DNA expert says that the dead baby has the DNA of her and her husband dontcha' think its kind of a no brainer? If the child was stillborn she is guilty of disposing improperly of a corpse. How do you prove what condition the baby was born in given advanced decomposition? I think the prosecution must have blown it here or had limited avenues to pursue in trying to find this women guilty of something. Sad, but she will get her final judgment sooner or later. We all do.

    Posted by: happy with jury's decision Location: elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:37 AM
    They followed the letter of the law. There was no proof the baby was born dead or that the baby was killed. I also hope the mother gets proper mental help that she is in desperate need of. She was just too "happy" every time she was on camera. People don't judge, you don't know what happened, you weren't there. Only God knows and he's the final judge..please leave it at that.

    Posted by: Anon Location: South Bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:34 AM
    This is a very sad situation. How then can people turn a deaf ear to partial birth abortion?! If it's a baby, it's a baby whether it's allowed to die in someone's home or in the sterile confines of a clinic or hospital. There is no respect for human life these days.

    Posted by: jim Location: middlebury on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:23 AM
    well miss disgusted,maybe she would not hurt one of her kids either.was you in the court room,to hear all the evidence, i dought it,but you want her guilty.i would hate to have you as my wife.

    Posted by: Roxy on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:20 AM
    Just shows that if your from Laporte you can get away with murder. DNA does not lie and you cannot tamper with DNA!

    Posted by: Steve-O on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:16 AM
    i bet the jury was a bunch of hicks that dont know nothing

    Posted by: bill on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:08 AM
    Wow...judging by the comments made by those imposing the jurors decision...thank god we dont live in Iran because she would have been stoned to death without a trial.

    Posted by: a Location: elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:07 AM
    Everyone needs to remember we only hear bits and pieces of what was actually stated in the court room. I'm sure there was a lot more to the case than what has been posted on the website. I'm sure there are many details that were left out that we the public will never hear or know about.

    Posted by: diana Location: st joseph mi on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:07 AM
    shame on you kathy...you either killed this child or abandoned its body if it was dead at birth. it deserved a decent burial and not thrown away like garbage. you will have to answer to the highest judge someday and i pray for your soul but i don't think it will do any good. a child is the most precious gift of all but you don't feel that way...what a horrible person you are and if you have other children they should be removed from your home so they don't end up dead one day. i can't believe you were found not guilty but you are the one who has to look in the mirror each and every morning...how's that going for you? how sad. a mother who loves her children.

    Posted by: Angry!! Location: LP on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:03 AM
    Calling all murderers, come to Laporte, you are safe here and will get away with it. She left smilig BIG and laughing at LP all the way home just like she did the whole trial. She may been found not guilty, but is no BY no means innocent! Kudos to Mr. Cook, Kathy got her money worth. Too bad the jury did not get to hear all the evidence. They spent more time out of the court then in. Something needs to be done about this woman. Her poor kids will go to school and be teased because their mom got to pick and choice which children to keep. Disguarding their sister.

    Posted by: anonymous Location: south bend on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:01 AM
    what is wrong with you people??????? the baby was proven to be hers....did the baby just get into that bag by herself??????? did someone steal the baby from her????? how could you find her not guilty???? unbelievable!!!!!!! there is no real judicial system in this country. this woman is absolutely nuts and is laughing all the way home. she got away with MURDER!!!!!! she must have some pull with somebody that got her off. the jurors should really check their consciences and think abbout that poor defenseless baby. kathy phillips i hope you and your husband can live with what you've done. it will certainly be on your minds the rest of your lives....think about it and turn yourselves in. GOD knows what you did.

    Posted by: terry Location: mc on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:59 AM
    yes par for the course in laporte co molesters and baby killers go free remember rayna rison what a botched case we need to get steve wilkos out here to find out what really happened ib both cases weel election time is near agin you no every vote counts I am disgussted is it not a crime to dump a body . If some one dies just dump them in Laporte co

    Posted by: Me on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:57 AM
    Kathy hope you BURN IN HELL!

    Posted by: Mother of two Location: LP on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:49 AM
    I just want to say I am with sll of you on this one. But please keep in mind it was not the legal system who fouund her not guilty it was our on peers. That alone would make me nervous, not the legal system and police. Also maybe it is his turn to stand trial, I think he is far from NOT GUILTY!

    Posted by: Carl Location: La Porte/ Michigan City on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:23 AM
    This is the way the system is designed. They could not prove that she was guilty and the jury decided that there was not enough evidence to convict her in this case. They made the right decision.

    Posted by: Lynette Location: La Porte on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:19 AM
    I can not even believe this. I am ashamed to be a resident of La Porte county. All I know is Kathy and Garry will one day have to face the only judge that matters, God! God bless little Jane Doe, she will be in all of our hearts. Rest in peace little one.

    Posted by: Bob on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:59 AM
    Told you so at the beginning of this trial.

    Posted by: Carla Location: SB on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:51 AM
    Baby killer.

    Posted by: Joe Location: Elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:48 AM
    To bad the mother of this "mother" hadn't done the same thing with her. After all the DNA, (I bet the family couldn't tell you what that is) her mother still believes her. Isn't that sweet. As far as God dealing with her, the people of the State of Indiana demanded justice. Pitiful prosecution. It's sad when "your" major pathelogical witness blows your case for you. You would have thout that "Was the baby ever alive?" would have been one of your first questions to him? Perhaps they should have watched CSI more. This just goes to show on of the anonymous poster that not only the rich and white can play the system. The poor and challenged can too.

    Posted by: concerned Location: Michigan on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:46 AM
    Oh my goodness, she just walked away from a serious crime and whats to say she won't repeat it, since she got away with it this time. All you had to do was watch her and could sense something just wasn't right. How are you going to answer to God for this one, cause he knows the whole story? Shame on you!!!!!! Our court system sometimes seems as despicable as the Phillips.

    Posted by: Hal Location: Rochester on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:39 AM
    I cannot comment on her guilt or inocence,since I was not in the courtroom. I can say as humans we don't always get things right. God never makes mistakes and ultimately will be the final judge.

    Posted by: now what? on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:39 AM
    now what? It has to be SOMEBODY'S BABY!! It just didn't appear out of nowhere!!

    Posted by: jim Location: elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:31 AM
    aren't you guys just something,were any of you in the trial,12 jurors found her not guilty,but thats not enough for you.disgusted,you just want her guilty.she dont even know her,but the minute the d/a wants to pin a case on someone,people like you think they are already guilty.the d/a is not always right,as you can see,even with all of his theory.

    Posted by: ME Location: LA PORTE on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:20 AM
    SEE GOD IS GOOD .ILOVE YA KATHY..SHAME ON THE PEOPLE WHO PUT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THROUGH HELL..MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

    Please do not post in all caps. Thank you. -WNDU.com


    Posted by: Sandy Location: Niles, Mi on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:09 AM
    Can the DNA be explained? I don`t understand if the testimony proved they are the parents how did this jury come to this conclusion? Putting aside the cause of death even, How do you explain that DNA proved they r the parents?

    Posted by: Disgusted on Jul 24, 2008 at 06:03 AM
    This verdict is a joke and a travesty of justice. That poor baby deserved justice for what was done to her. Rest assured though, that Kathy Phillips may not receive justice here in this lifetime, but she will surely receive it in the next. I don't care how thin she was, I don't care if all her family members say she wasn't pregnant. DNA proved she and her husband are the parents of that baby and she should not get away with this. I am sickened and appalled by this. The jury members are a joke. Shame on each and every one of them!

    Posted by: Where you been? on Jul 24, 2008 at 05:57 AM
    Heck, women do this all the time, it's called abortion...? Where have all of you outraged people been? Life does not mean anything to sickos and our govt. sanctions it. Why do you think the mindset toward "life" in this country has gone down the tubes. Wake Up and be outraged about ALL murders.

    Posted by: Charles Location: Berrien on Jul 24, 2008 at 05:39 AM
    Put the emotions aside and look at the facts. One no conclusive finding the baby was alive may have been still born and many are. Two there is not a law requiring any prenatal care. Three no law requiring a Doctor or hospital be involved in the birth. Four you have no conclusive proof of a live full term birth as there was never any Doctor involved during the pregnancy, Finally a husband or wife can not be compelled to testify against each other, The case was weak from the start but was a case of emotions and outcry from the public. The jury who are private citizens did their job and they found in the manner they felt right. This case was a total waste of money as they had no conclusive evidence. I feel the trash bag testimony should have been from a crime lab evidence technician not the Manager of the plant saying they seem to be from the same roll. A technician could have proven the bag match the torn off ends and the compound used to make them matched. Poor presentation is all

    Posted by: Scott on Jul 24, 2008 at 05:11 AM
    GOOD state was just trying to hang someone for this beware if they find someone dead by your house you might be next how much money DID THEY WASTE on this trial how much money did Kathy have to spend to defend herself the state should half to pay this too your guilty till you prove differt anymore

    Posted by: Megan Location: Elkhart on Jul 24, 2008 at 04:06 AM
    To Anon in Michigan - Stillbirths DO happen "in this day and age." What are you, stupid? A friend of the family just had a stillbirth a few weeks ago. My sister had stillborn TWINS. I'm a medical transcriptionist and let me tell you, the reports I type would scream that you are sadly mistaken in your statement that fetal demise/stillbirths don't happen. And having a baby at home has nothing to do with NOT being a loving mother. Some mothers are SO loving that they want to provide what they feel is the most natural, loving, intimate delivery for their child. Seriously, you need to think before you open your trap.

    Posted by: B Location: Laporte on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:59 AM
    I heard that the cop that did the forensics for the dna test, took hair samples from her oldest daughter and not gary, but then from kathy when she was in Jail. That would match up 100%. Mother and daughter have the same dna. Not sure if its true or not, but was told something to that order happened. and thats why the dna evidence didn't stand up in court. Gotta prove it beyond a shaddow of doubt. And they just didn't do that. Too many holes. I hope if it was her that this whole thing the birth, the death, the burial, the trial all live deep down inside her, and everyday of her life i hope she has to fight to just survive. Cuz if she did it, she deserves to live in hell, cuz the stupid jurior thought otherwise.

    Posted by: ALL OF US Location: MC on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:45 AM
    What part of "Gary is the father and Kathy is the mother, 99.9%or higher positive" didn't the jury understand? I will never understand how you can just throw a child away, literally, and there be no consequences of any kind. A precedent has now been set by the legal system that can never be reversed. Everyone talks about how sad our society is today, and this is a prime example. God help all those involved, including the jury and defense team, you're going to need it when you try to sleep at night. At least the baby is in a better place,instead of with the parents who wouldn't even provide a proper burial or even acknowledge that tiny creature. Like the Grinch, their hearts are 10 sizes too small!

    Posted by: Should have gotten it Location: for at least Neglect on Jul 24, 2008 at 03:39 AM
    I can see that in order to prove guilt it has to be beyond a resonable doubt. The pros. could not prove beyond a doubt that the baby was born alive and then killed. They couldn't even prove it was not born stillborn. So anyone who would discard of a baby that was not alive at birth the way someone did should get what is coming to them, and god will get them. Its just a matter of time. The negelect thing, that is what she for sure should have gotten. They proved her dna, they proved the plastic bags were hers so why not the charge on child negelect? If thats not negelect i don't know what is. And nothing. not ever negelect. Did the pros. even actually prove beyond a resonable doubt that it was her baby? like i have always said, you want to commit murder, live in laporte. Gez mayberry usa could solve crimes better then laporte and they were a fake police state on the andy griffin show. but my dollar is with mayberry. Laporte is for the ones who want to get away with it. Its sad.

    Posted by: Kevin Location: North Judson on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:48 AM
    They should have hung her! I think that if she didn't do it she wouldn't have lied about being pregnant. I hope she rots in hell!

    Posted by: disgusted mother Location: mc on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:32 AM
    I can't believe they found her not guilty of anything. She is a sorry excuse for a mother. I don't understand how these mothers can hurt their children. I could never hurt my children, they are too precious to me and are my everything. No matter what, there is nothing that would make me hurt them.

    Posted by: Can't Believe this on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:29 AM
    So calling all pregnant women who can't afford an abortion! Come on over to Laporte County and have your baby where ever you wish and just discard it!!!! This is soooooo wrong and it makes me sick! I guess its legal in laporte County! I wanna move away from here I'm ashamed to say that I live here. This is just a total mockery of our court system and our Police! I Just Can't believe it!!!!

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:18 AM
    Nimrod. I am not defending her, but still births are not as uncommon as you may think. They do happen. It happened to the lady that used to live across the road from me. My brother’s baby died after being born because it couldn’t breathe properly. The last is not a still birth, but was close. He didn’t live even an hour. No doctor could have saved him. They do happen.

    Posted by: only in LP Location: lp on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:26 AM
    You know she is going to get away with this. Shame on her! I feel sorry for her other kids, and the ones you know she will have in the future. Come on jury, see her for what she is... a lying, sneaky... thing. She is still laughing at everyone like she has be the whole time.

    Posted by: me Location: ha on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:24 AM
    Only GOD knows the truth and I hope that the right decision is made. If she is guilty, she should be ashamed, and if not let her live her life. AS I SAID, GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH>>>>>

    Posted by: Carla Location: SB on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM
    God please be with the jurors and guide them to make the right decision.

    Posted by: j Location: laporte on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:14 PM
    interesting we only see her family there and not Garys. Possibly they think she is guilty?

    Posted by: anon Location: river park on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:03 PM
    shell get off scott free cuz shes white and we all know it jury will take pity on the poor white woman and let her go scott free

    Posted by: mags on Jul 23, 2008 at 10:39 PM
    Needtoknow: Thanks for all the info,I just hope the Jury has the same information.

    Posted by: momtwice Location: Laporte on Jul 23, 2008 at 10:36 PM
    My second child was born with the cord wrapped twice around the neck. The Doctor immediately unwrapped the cord and he was a healthy screaming beautiful newborn.

    Posted by: ty Location: laporte on Jul 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM
    What I think is very sad is that this baby had to be named by strangers and had strangers that cared about her more than her mother be at the burial. How can you refuse your baby, your own flesh and blood? And then laugh and smile for the camera at the trial? Some thing is very wrong with her.

    Posted by: Kathy on Jul 23, 2008 at 08:08 PM
    I think we can all pretty much agree that Kathy and Gary are the babies father. She is not on trial for this. She is on trial for a baby's murder and neglect of a this child. I could understand the neglect charge even though I read in the news dispatch that it was stated that neglect doesn't begin at birth. (even though I would think being neglectful of the infant while she was pregnant should be considered.) But, the defense has not proven to me that this child was born alive, and therefore if this person was not alive to be murdered, where does the murder charge stand. It was up to the prosecutor to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that Kathy killed this child, and I don't think it was proven "beyond a reasonable doubt" this baby was alive to be killed. I will be surprised if the jury convicts on this charge. I am surprised that the prosecutor didn't get down and dirty. (I guess I watch too many TV shows) But, I felt the trial has been pretty lame!

    Posted by: none Location: lp on Jul 23, 2008 at 07:42 PM
    If the question is whether the child was alive we would have to agree that the child was alive at least till birth (or death). I beleive this is considered third trimester and is considered a living person.From what I've heard so far the only person not guilty is the child.

    Posted by: ANON Location: Middlebury on Jul 23, 2008 at 07:08 PM
    ANON MI; Check your STATS; there is fetal demise and stlllborn all of the time; I work in a hospital and I read the paper. Take a look at the obituaries.

    Posted by: anon on Jul 23, 2008 at 06:53 PM
    theyll let her go cuz shes white and probably rich and theyll feel sorry for her

    Posted by: A Mother Location: Mishawaka on Jul 23, 2008 at 05:22 PM
    She IS guilty of wrong doing, for SURE! If they don't convict her, which won't suprise me, she wiil get what is coming to her when she answers to God someday! She and her husband both make me sick! What a couple of heartless monsters. Animals take better care of their young, alive OR dead!

    Posted by: Needtoknow Location: MC on Jul 23, 2008 at 05:22 PM
    If you research any other court cases or other state cases there have been numerous rulings of Homicide by Child Neglect. The United States Supreme Court has ruled that the state has a high interest in protecting the lives and health of unborn babies who have attained viability. "Viable fetus" means an unborn baby (human fetus) who has attained sufficient development of organs as to be capable of living outside ofthe uterus of the mother, with or without life support. The rights to life and medical care ofa viable fetus shall be the same as the rights of an infant. You can call it Murder or Homicide or whatever. The fact is she neglected her child. And as far as the baby taking it's first breath to be considered "alive"...here's this...A live birth occurs when a fetus, whatever its gestational age, exits the maternal body and subsequently shows any sign of life, such as voluntary movement, heartbeat, or pulsation of the umbilical cord, for however brief a time.

    Posted by: Indi19 on Jul 23, 2008 at 05:15 PM
    It is quite apparent that she never had any intentions of keeping this baby. She probably intended on an abortion but it was to late.So IMO she never gave two sh@#$ about baby Jane therefore she should be charged with something. She should be held accountable for her actions.I totaly agree with ANON an HI! on this one.

    Posted by: Anon Location: Michigan on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:55 PM
    Maybe the baby wouldn't have been stillborn (if it really was) if Kathy had had prenatal care and had given birth in a hospital with a doctor in attendance. You rarely hear of stillbirths in this day and age. I'm sure having a baby at home all alone isn't a crime but why would any loving mother take that chance?

    Posted by: nimrod Location: laporte on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:48 PM
    I hate to say this, but I think they will let her go. No real evidence for murder. I read someplace at one time that if the lungs of a human float in water that means that air had been taken in. I THINK the baby was born alive and the cord wrapped around its little neck on purpose. It's such a shame.

    Posted by: HI! Location: MC on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:47 PM
    Ok. The baby might of been still born. If she would of received the proper care while pregnant and actually gave birth in the hospital things might be different. She refused! The doc said that the umblical cord might have been wrapped around the baby's neck. If that was the case and she was in the hospital delivering the doctor would realize what was going on and saved the baby. She just didn't care about the childs welfare. To me that is murder and she needs to be convicted.

    Posted by: s on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:46 PM
    If they can't prove the baby took a breath then there is no case. No breath no murder!!!

    Posted by: disgusted Location: near Rolling Prairie on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:39 PM
    I went to school with G.L. and grew up in the same town. He was known growing up as a "FIGHTER". I saw him and his wife at a softball game at LaPorte Sharf fields. My first impression of her was not a good one. She is an obnoxius, rude, loud mouth that cusses like a sailor. I can believe that she would do what they say she did. One last note, if your defense attorney is trying to say the baby was still born you might not want to deny being pregnant. She is contradicting her own attorney, how smart is that?

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: Indiana on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:34 PM
    She is also on trial for NEGLECT. If a person does not attempt to get help (call 911) after giving birth to a child (who may or may not have been alive), I believe it would be considered neglect.

    Posted by: Rachel Location: South Bend on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:09 PM
    J from LaPorte, first of all, guilty is spelled with a G, not a Q. Quilty is not a word. And nowadays in the US we convict people based on their family being "scum"? What happened to fair trials and innocent until proven guilty. For the record, if I were on this jury, I could not convict her because the prosecution has not proven the baby was born alive. The burden of proof is on them. Yes Kathy's behavior is suspicious, but there is no proof beyond a reasonable doubt that this baby was born alive.

    Posted by: laporte on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:05 PM
    I completely agree with "my best quess". The rest of you are missing the point. She is on trial for MURDER, not for whether she was pregnant or not. We all know she was pregnant. DNA proved that. We do not know if she MURDERED the baby. No one proved that. They proved she discarded the baby but they didn't prove she murdered it.

    Posted by: hello Location: lp on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:35 PM
    How smart is J that you don't even know how to spell "guilty" right, you put "Quilty". You say their scum but you cannot even spell a 5th grade word.

    Posted by: HI! Location: MC on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:31 PM
    The defense rests without calling any witnesses? The attorney knows she is guilty just like all of us. This is appawling. If she didn't want the child there are people out there who want children and can't have them. She knows better. She worked as a paralegal for an attorney. She deserves to rot in prison for the rest of her life!!!

    Posted by: just me Location: LP on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:23 PM
    The defense rests because there is none! I think it's sad that the jury didn't get to hear everything, including the defense lawyer referring to the dead infant as "Kathy's baby." Oops. But really, not even any character witnesses saying what a fine, upstanding citizen she is and what a great mother she is? Pretty arrogant move. On the other hand, if she is convicted she'll be able to appeal on the grounds of inadequate representation.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:34 PM
    Bev, if Garry knew his wife was pregnant, why not just bury the body? No one would have known.

    Posted by: Tracey Location: LP on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:33 PM
    TO J from LP.....That is so funny. I forgot about that, I live near the Division Street house that was repossessed and had to be gutted. You are exactly right.....pure scum.

    Posted by: anon on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:32 PM
    Hey J. Just because her parents houses were condemned doesn't make her GUILTY. See the word is guilty not quilty.

    Posted by: Not gonna say Location: Lp on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:24 PM
    To J.How can you accuse her whole family of being scum?I've known them for almost 20 years,if not more and consider them some of my best friends.They have always treated me with respect and dignity,I'd like to know how you could make that accusation about her whole family.Kathy was always a good person,with a attitude.If she is proven guilty then she is guilty but don't slander her whole family,there is a lot of good people in that clan.. Good Day

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:22 PM
    J from LaPorte--if you insist on making comments, please learn how to spell GUILTY!!!

    Posted by: deborah Location: south bend on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:18 PM
    ONLY the mother knows who she is!!!! I hope that babies sweet face is the last thing "mommy" see when she closes her eyes at nite , till the day she dies!!!!

    Posted by: Bev Location: baffled on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:58 PM
    Come on Garry, how could you not know your wife was pregnant. I think both Kathy and Gary were involved in this and both should be on trial. DNA don't lie, so how ya planning on getting out this corner and apparently even the defense attorneys know the truth but of course they have to do their job for the 3 or 4 hundred dollars an hour they are making.

    Posted by: J Location: LaPorte on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:42 PM
    The whole family is scum. Almost every house her parents lived in as been condemmed. She is every bit Quilty!!!!

    Posted by: terry Location: rolling prairie in on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:25 PM
    this case has drug out for 2 years how dare the defense atty say what det Bigss said or done was here say This is just another stall tatic by the defense to make a plea on the jurys emotions I am sure det Biggs folowed all procedures to the letter. we allknow the will file an appeal on her behalf which is normal procedure k phillips your going down lady so get use to the idea so pack your jump suit and get ready to go

    Posted by: Indi19 on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:21 PM
    The defense attorney knows they are guilty!He is really working for his client!!!!! Not enough circumstanial evidence ,What more does he need. At this point I think he's trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat,and he's no magician.Just get on with it and let Justice be done!!!!!

    Posted by: J Location: LaPorte on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:18 PM
    Quilty !!!!! Quilty !!!!!

    Posted by: d on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:17 PM
    The DNA would match their oldest daughter if she was the one who it was taken from. I think the attorney is trying to push the contamination of this case but can't outright say there was evidence tampering because the detective who would be to blame is dead. It is interesting that they took the father's DNA first and not hers until she was arrested. Once they knew that he was definitely the father of the older child, how easy to pin it on her! Just a conspiracy theory!!!

    Posted by: Ed Location: SBI on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:14 PM
    There are a lot of folks mistaken about spousal privelage. The accused enjoys the privelage of preventing the spouse from testifying about marital communications. That is all. A spouse can be compelled to testify about other things, just not what the spouse said to them within the confidence of the marital relationship.

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: SB on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:13 PM
    I hope someone asked about the difference between probablity and odds of the DNA.

    Posted by: My best guess on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:04 PM
    I suspect that Garry didn't want her to have a baby, and told her so. When she found out she was pregnant, she tried to lose weight to hide it from him. When someone said she looked pregnant, it scared her into losing more weight. Garry may have never known she was pregnant. When she had the baby at home, (we don't know if it was stillborn or not) she hid the body. Garry found it a couple days later, and not knowing it was theirs, informed authorities. They didn't realize DNA would be done, so they claimed the baby wasn't theirs. They backed off that claim, when DNA was conclusive. I still think she will be found innocent, only because there is no proof that the baby was born alive. I'm not excusing her for hiding the body even if it was stillborn. There may still be minor charges for how she disposed of the body. Anyone can say she's guilty, but I don't think it was proven beyond reasonable doubt. Just my guess.

    Posted by: Wowsers Location: LaPorte on Jul 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM
    I too notice the smiles are shrinking to frowns.This trial has sure took a swing in the prosecutions way.I would like to see this get wrapped up soon.It has been hard on everyone in L.P. that knows this family.It is sure hard to belive that she would do anything like this.But like everyone says DNA doesn't lie,and something happened on that night.I think we are all just ready for the truth,

    Posted by: Carla Location: SB on Jul 23, 2008 at 12:26 PM
    How much more guilty can she look? I will be THRILLED to see her put behind bars. I hope it's for the rest of her miserable life. And her husband is just as guilty as she is. He had to know she was pregnant. Deny, deny, deny. Maybe it will go away if they deny it enough. They are scum.

    Posted by: T Location: Michigan City on Jul 23, 2008 at 12:07 PM
    What I really want to know is he also denying that she was pregnant? How do you not know your wife is pregnant? I wish I was a fly on the wall in that court room, to see his and her face when the DNA proved they were the parents of that poor baby girl. Is it possible she was cheating and hid it from him not for sure if it was her husbands baby? I've had two babies and don't know how you could hide it though! He better get a lawyer.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:57 AM
    He cannot be forced to testify against his wife. So, why plead the fifth? Is that what he's really doing here?

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:20 AM
    I think that if he evokes the 5th, there is reason to believe that he may incriminate himself, therefore they read him his rights. Anything you say may be used against YOU in a court of law.

    Posted by: bill Location: bristol on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM
    I do notice that Kathy's smiles are not quite as big as a week ago.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 23, 2008 at 10:32 AM
    If Garry was given his rights, does that mean there are charges against him? Will he have a separate trial?


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