Four injured after four overnight shootings in South Bend Save Email Print
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Posted: 6:48 AM Jul 5, 2008
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Four people were injured in four overnight shootings in South Bend.

The three men and one woman were shot just hours apart last night.

The first shooting happened outside the Charles Black Center at 3419 W. Washington St. A woman was shot there and is in serious condition.

Police say the second shooting happened near the intersection of Harrison Ave. and Lindsey Ave. A bullet grazed a man’s head, he is expected to recover.

Another man was shot in the stomach in the 1100-block of Olive St. Police say he is in serious condition.

The final shooting happened at the South Bank Lounge on Lincolnway East. That man is expected to recover. That’s the same place where a security guard was punched and killed in May.

Police say they do not know if any of these four shootings are related, and they are looking for suspects.

If you have any information on any of these shootings, please call Crime Stoppers at (574) 288-STOP or (800) 342-STOP.

One person was shot and killed Saturday after the fifth shooting in less than 24 hours. Click here for information on that shooting.
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Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 11, 2008 at 08:01 PM
Margaret, do you honestly KNOW what goes into buying a handgun?????? I didn't think so. I pray to God that you NEVER, ever get yourself into a situation where you are physically assaulted. If you ever did, you would know WHY we need to arm EVERY American Citizen with a legal handgun. Did you know if certain counties in Texas, everyone that is capable of handling and passing a CCW is REQUIRED to do so and to CARRY your weapon with you......bet you didn't know that, did you?? What it does, it makes everyone that isn't so "nice" more respectful and aware their every move is being watched. Bet yah this hooligan ISN'T going to try anything with any of these people because he KNOWS he wouldn't stand a chance and get away with anything. Call me a finatic. I'm fine with that. My wife and I sleep quite well at night. She has her revolver on her side of the bed and I have my 9mm semi-automatic. Both are fully loaded with "personal protection" loads in them. It will leave a BIG HOLE..
Posted by: Joe Location: Elkahart on Jul 11, 2008 at 07:47 PM
Sorry to all you gun slingers but it is just to easy to get a gun these days. Even with all the back ground checks . Heck i bought one at a garage sale and sold it on the internet . Heck you can even buy automatic weapons faster than the Elkart police can lose them . Have a donut on me IRONMAN
Posted by: Chad Location: S.B. on Jul 11, 2008 at 07:38 PM
Guns dont kill people people kill people. What a bunch of crap. One thing for sure less guns means less shootings. You dont have to be a Dem or Rep its a no brainer.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 10, 2008 at 08:59 PM
As a republican my business supports all these silly lame a@@ programs the democrats dream up. There is no such thing as fair--work or go without.
Posted by: Margaret Location: South Bend on Jul 10, 2008 at 02:57 PM
The reason that there is an amendment in the constitution about carrying guns is because of when it was written. I still contend that the reason that we have so many shootings is because any tom-dick or harry can walk into a gun shop-give false info-and don't hand me that crap about how careful gun dealers are about background checks-and purchase a killing machine. If you want to carry a gun-join the poilce force. If you want to shoot people-join the mililtary.
Posted by: Me Location: Mishawaka on Jul 9, 2008 at 06:40 PM
Way to go Mayor Bozo..Keep building more homes for the welfare thugs and food stamps..What gets me is people who have worked and lost their jobs can not get county assistance...Guess you have to be trash and not want to work and break laws to get help in this goofy County!!!
Posted by: William Go Tell on Jul 8, 2008 at 02:49 PM
Todd, I'm impressed, most writers who don't understand my premise's have nothing positive to contribute. At least you have some constructive suggestions and cognitive thoughts. Unfortunately, you missed the point: budget constraint, creative use of resources, police visibility emphasizing serving and protecting, and a purging of all departmental fraud and dishonesty must be what sounded so stupid to you. Pardon my ignorance.
Posted by: Democratic thinking on Jul 8, 2008 at 07:14 AM
I agree with Don. All you Republicans with your businesses should move out of the area and take your jobs with you. South Bend can get along fine with our public housing and homeless center. We don't need tax revenue.
Posted by: Todd Location: South Bend on Jul 7, 2008 at 05:25 PM
William Go Tell...you make some of the stupidist comments. The Mayor as one person cannot change crime in a city. It is a group effort of everybody including it's citizens. Cops don't stop crimes. They cannot be everywhere at once. People make poor decisions and that is that. We cannot assign a police officer to every low income house in the city. Yes I said it..it is the repressed areas where this junk happens. Deal with the truth, I am not being racist nor bias on class. People do stupid things when they don't have money or are brought up in a bad home situation. This took years to develop to this level. It is not any one certain person's fault and it will not go away quickly. Everybody needs to pitch in. Get involved in community policing if you are not satisfied. Nobody likes an armchair quarterback.
Posted by: Used to be a Drunk Location: S B on Jul 7, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Just so happens, in this little, bitty, tiny city, its happening a lot lately. I bet its a lot less than those who drive drunk and kill someone..OOPs they are white like me and will just go to treatment for substance abuse. Dont get mad, you know I am telling the truth. They may not even post this, but reality bites down hard.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 7, 2008 at 03:39 PM
To Lisa in South Bend: It's not drugs--it's lack of proper upbringing, lack of morals, lack of self respect, lack of control, lack of common sense, lack of everything.
Posted by: Lisa Location: South Bend on Jul 7, 2008 at 01:53 PM
I don't think having the gun is the problem here. It is what state of mind the gun owner is in while using the gun. Drunk or high on drugs...makes you do things you normally would not do. To many people are wacked out on drugs! Drugs is what causes all of these shootings! PERIOD!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 7, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Thanks Mike of Elkhart. YOU GET IT! Too bad more people don't really WANT to know how to keep their families and themself safer. My wife had never approved of me buying my first handgun (we now have two). One day after waking up, she told me she felt more secure just KNOWING we are sleeping with 2 loaded firearms beside our bed. We had to call the Sheriff's dept one day because of our neighbor's house door was opened (they was in FL at the time). It took the police 45 minutes just to show up. Someone could have been in there, stealing our neighbors blind. We sat outside watching the house. At the time, I didn't have any weapon. Luckily, it turned out their son had come in and forgot to lock and shut the door behind him. The fact remains we are STILL so far away from our local police, it would take at least 10 minutes before they got there. A LOT can happen in those precious minutes. We sleep quite well at night now. If my grandkids come over, I DO have a locking safe.
Posted by: CommunityGuy Location: westside on Jul 7, 2008 at 12:08 PM
We need to get tougher on the criminals--trash is trash. Come to my house to cause trouble and I'll introduce my friends Smith and Weason to you--maybe you want to meet my friend Sig Sauer or My pet Glack--We aim to please.
Posted by: tony Location: sb on Jul 7, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Im moving to ROSELAND!!! No joke, say what you want. At least you can walk the streets at night and not need a gun. Also housing is very reasonable, taxes are lower and its next to ND. Best of all, No section eight allowed. SB is the bowels of the state. Move over Dave and Dorothy you have company comming...
Posted by: fred Location: Mishawaka on Jul 7, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Margret I glad you survived your ordeal hopefully it wasent violent crime. All I'm saying is if I faced with what could be a kill or be killed situation. I would like a level playing feild. I was told don't point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot and if someone points one at me I belive that person will shoot me so hence the level playing feild.
Posted by: Chris Location: SB on Jul 7, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Margaret- That is your decision. You are free to decide that YOU do not need to carry a gun. We live in America, I thank you to leave me to decide for myself and my family whether I need to or not.
Posted by: Josh Location: South Bend on Jul 7, 2008 at 10:38 AM
It's funny, you people bickering about DemocRATS and RepubliCONS. When in this world called reality there is no difference. We have a 2 party system which is just one more choice than communism. Keep believing either one will make a difference you bunch of sheep.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 7, 2008 at 09:20 AM
Margaret - I would say that the crime you was involved with wasn't serious enough to leave a LASTING impression on you. There are only so many police for any certain area. Our 2nd Amendment states, YOU are responsible for yourself and your family FIRST. You need to be prepared for ANYTHING at ANYTIME. Did you hear about the couple that was at Macri's Deli, eating lunch outside on the patio? Robbed at gunpoint. How about the waitress that was robbed at Hooter's while she was walking to her car? Her back window was shot out? Or the 2 women that was coming out of Barnes and Nobles??? They was able to drive off, but not without having their back window shot out too? This all happened last fall. It was reported in the Tribune on a Saturday in one of the last several sections, way in the back. (It got stuffed away.) An elderly couple was robbed and beaten, and as the Hispanic group of THUGS left, they took their dog with them. Nice, huh? NO, I WILL carry my gun keeping it loaded!
Posted by: Captain Dan Location: South Bend on Jul 7, 2008 at 08:42 AM
I think we need a surge, to purge the vermin from the West side. Declare war on the element that is doing the murder. Enough is enough.
Posted by: mike Location: elkhart on Jul 7, 2008 at 08:23 AM
Salem, are you frigging kidding? Have the National Gaurd patrol our streets, what are you thinking? Posse comitatus Salem, google it, read it, understand it, please. You people are so willing to give up freedoms for security, dont look to someone else to save you, save yourself. It makes me sick to see what some of you are willing to give up, what you are willing to put up with so you can sit and watch your stupid american idol and the other waste of brain power shows you watch on TV. Wake up, read our constitution, read what our founding fathers intended this country to be, and dont put up for anything less then that. It is time to do as anon said, take care of yourselves, be responsible for yourselves, you people that rely on government make it hard on us that would like to live free.
Posted by: Margaret Location: South Bend on Jul 7, 2008 at 07:56 AM
Fred-I was a victim of a crime-in fact in the first two weeks of moving to South Bend-13 years ago. I had never had anything happen to me and I lived in a changing area in the south suburbs of Chicago. I have also been out of the country in South America. I still say that you do not need to carry a gun!
Posted by: Brent Location: Granger on Jul 7, 2008 at 07:51 AM
When are we just going to say **** it and change the city's name to Gary Jr.?
Posted by: anon... Location: granger on Jul 7, 2008 at 03:18 AM
you know i have never understood why blacks are always yelling that the whites are racist when yet their is a good reason for it well lets see 90% of the crimes in southbend are caused by the blacks killings, robberies you name it and everytime we read a story that has to do with southbend it ivolved a black person and then the blacks have the nerve to call the whites racist to funny basically if you live in southbend and your white please carry a gun at all times no matter what
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 6, 2008 at 09:33 PM
What it boils down to is parenting! These thugs, yes I will use that term, white or black, are a result of poor parenting! You can throw all the money and programs you want at it. It won't be solved, curbed maybe, but it always be there. Isn't it funny how you need a license or a permit to do anything of importance in this country with the exception of making children. Even if you want to adopt it's a lengthy approval process, but having kids, hey go right ahead and have as many as you want, and by the way, we'll help you financially for the next 18 years too! Perhaps clinics should offer free depo shots to all females of reproductive age. It would hafta be the depo cause they're probably not responsible enough to take a pill everyday, and if they come up with shot for the boys, they get it too! Hey, its a start, and ultimately cheaper.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 6, 2008 at 09:06 PM
I am so scared to even live here anymore. This is a scary scary city to raise my children in. I'd love to help work to bring change but our cities leaders seem to be in complete denial and talk as if South Bend is like Mayberry.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 6, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Margaret: I'll give you a really simple scenario for you to figure out. OK, its just turning dark. You are walking with your children (or dog or whatever). A small gang of "young adults" surround you and start to taught you and your family(or dog). One of them grabs your young daughter and starts to rape her. What do you do? Call 911? Scream bloody murder (as if anyone will hear you and come to your aid)?? Maybe you jump all over this jerk and try to get him off her?? What if the other jerks jump on you and force you to watch your daughter being accosted??? What do you do? You WAS able to call 911, OK, I'll give you that, but just remember, it could take them several minutes to get to you. So what do you do now?? You and you child are DEAD by the time the police get to you....did you say a prayer before the shot your daughter in the head and cut your throat? Think it can't happen? It DOES all over! If I was there, I would try to help you, but OH, I'm in the military, right?
Posted by: worker Location: indiana on Jul 6, 2008 at 07:52 PM
Sounds like South Bend is getting to be an undesirable destination.
Posted by: William Go Tell on Jul 6, 2008 at 07:10 PM
Our mayor explained the problem if you were paying attention: we can't afford to have police patrols at the parks and on the streets without passage of the new public safety tax. Our police are currently kept busy checking on seat belt violators, following up on illegaly lit cigarette smokers at restaurants and open-air parks, sueing the county or making real estate deals and such. Face it, South Bend politicians and the local police departments are pretty much rotten at the top and a good percentage of the infestation has spread throughout the respective organizations. To the good cops, sorry to speak the truth about your leaders.
Posted by: Fred Location: Mishawaka on Jul 6, 2008 at 03:09 PM
Margret it's a shame it will take you being a victim to come around to reality. The world you live in full of sunshine and puppy dogs would be fantastic but it's not reality.
Posted by: chuck on Jul 6, 2008 at 03:02 PM
And we'd have a crime free utopia under Mitch's man Manigault. LOL Give me a break, pathetic RepubliCONS.
Posted by: Chris Location: Mishawaka on Jul 6, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Kurt, you idiot! First of all, I think you wrote your comment about the ambulance accident under the wrong article. This about the 4 shootings in South Bend, not the ambulance accident. Second of all, technically it does not matter if the ambulance was driving w/ lights & sirens, state law says he has to drive with "due regard;" which means he must clear the intersection before entering it. If he had the red light, he must stop, look, then proceed through intersection. I would lable both drivers at fault. Maybe you should go to traffic school!!!
Posted by: Man Hands on Jul 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Mike said: "i know most of you who write the word thug are white. when a white person commits a crime they are never called thugs by white people." ---- When a white person talks like you, they are called racist. You're not trying to be constructive and move the conversation forward; you're just making trouble playing the race card. Did you guffaw loudly and slap yer thigh after you posted that? The problem is, for every 3 white ghettotards I see who don't know that wearing their pants down so their boxers show is a prison signal for inviting gay sex, I see 10 black losers doing the same thing. For every 2 cracker ghettotards ruining a neighborhood with subwoofers, I see 8 black ghettotards. The problem is, people are afraid that if they point out what they're seeing with their eyes then they will be signed up with the KKK. When trouble happens, the news covers it. If trouble happens in da hood more than anywhere else, figuring out why that is is YOUR problem, not ours.
Posted by: Scared on Jul 6, 2008 at 11:48 AM
This town is not a nice place to live anymore. Thank Mayor you gave so much to the wrong people who do not appreciate it. The shootings and the drugs in this town are terrible. I guess I better get agun pernit just so I can protect myself and my family.....
Posted by: sam Location: south bend on Jul 6, 2008 at 11:37 AM
how did the dem mayor get re-elected then, by your comments he shouldn't have --- i didn't vote for him. the republican candidate should have won but the old pole west side machine that old boy club prevaled. south bend will you ever learn????
Posted by: Kim Location: Elkhart on Jul 6, 2008 at 10:16 AM
I use to live in Flint Michigan and there was lot of shooting 7 day's a week and day and night no matter what if there was white black mexican or green red blue people they had guns and shooting at the cars go bye and cops did not do anything about it plus they shot back and forth at each other it was like a wae was going on and they still do that in flint. I read the news paper all the time about flint is they are THUGS no matter what they think they are BIG SHOTs or TOUGH they are poor ragged a** out there
Posted by: COMPLAINERS Location: SBI on Jul 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I CAN'T BELIEVE AND PEOPLE HAVE TO NERVE TO BLAME THE MAYOR FOR THE VIOLENT WAY OUR YOUTH HAS BECOME. ALL OF YOU FORGET THAT MAYOR LUECKE WAS VOTED IN BY THE CITIZENS OF SOUTH BEND. I HAVE LIVED ON THE WEST SIDE SINCE BIRTH AND HAVE HUNG OUT AT THESE PLACES NEVER ONCE HAVE I FELT AT RISK OR SCARED. ITS TOO BAD THAT SOUTH BEND HAS BECOME THE "EAST GARY". I THINK THAT INSTEAD OF EVERYONE COMPLAINING I THINK THAT WE AS CITIZENS SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE POLICE AND NEEDING MORE, I THINK THAT MOST OFFICERS ARE AS CORRUPT AS THE KIDS. DO YOU EVER NOTICE HOW THEY THINK THAT THEY OWN OUR STREETS OFFICERS TURNING ON SIRENS TO GO THROUGH RED LIGHTS, SPEEDING LIKE MAD MEN DOWN OUR STREETS, HAVING PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF THE WAY BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT THERE IS A EMERGENCY AND THEN YOU SEE THEM PULL IN THE LOCAL 7-11'S.WHAT EXAMPLES ARE KIDS HAVE.
Posted by: Margaret Location: South Bend on Jul 6, 2008 at 10:06 AM
to anon-you are not in the wild west-YOU DO NOT NEED TO CARRY A WEAPON!!!! if you want to use a gun,join the military.
Posted by: Don N Location: South Bend on Jul 6, 2008 at 08:52 AM
To all of you that keep pushing the anti-Mayor, Gary East crap: YOU LOST THE ELECTION! Sorry. Why don't you try something constructive now. Blaming the Mayor for pathetic judges is totally misleading the people who read this comment section. Besides, you will still be crazy and un-electable in 3 years. Yesterday is an example of the fact that you can have 10 cops at a scene and some maniac will shoot at them! How is that the Mayor's fault? That's proof that you can have cops all over the place and if you have enough violent, armed felons that should already be behind bars it's not going to matter. So quit pushing your personal political agendas and direct your attacks where they belong. Better yet, if you can find your Utopia elswhere, go. Leave and open up your ice cream stand or construction company or consulting firm there. Oh here's an idea- someone below suggested that Elkhart is the magical land of peace. We all know that's true, right? Go there and live in your dilusional state.
Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Jul 6, 2008 at 07:45 AM
Just wondering how the "thugs" have money for guns and cell phones when we are working to pay for their food stamps, WIC, and Medicaid. Maybe if they were working for a living like the rest of us then they wouldn't have time to shoot each other...
Posted by: sbtaxpayer Location: south bend on Jul 5, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Remember: Lakeville is more Violent than South Bend. Just ask the DEMS when it's election year!!
Posted by: Me Location: Goshen on Jul 5, 2008 at 11:25 PM
I had my daughters at the zoo yesterday and when it closed at 5, we walked over to Kids' Kingdom. One word--SCARY! We witnessed 10 year olds shooting off bottle rockets in the park and at least two cases of drug use--people out of control leaning against trees, lying on the ground, whatever. There were mobs of people everywhere and not a police patrol in sight. By compairison, we went to downtown Elkhart to Rice Field to watch the fireworks and there were police and private security patrolling everywhere. We sat on a lawn at a business close by and saw police car after car after car. Nice job, Elkhart!!! We felt safe out there after dark and enjoyed a great show but couldn't even enjoy the park on a Friday afternoon. If you don't like the word thug, let's go for loser instead--doesn't matter what color. And the one really drugged one was white!
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Gary East is getting old and more scarey every day. I want South Bend back!
Posted by: Jon Location: Mishawaka on Jul 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I'll be legally packing heat so if any gang bangin yahoos wanna start picking of random victims, I'll gladly feed them twelve .40 hollow-points :)
Posted by: Salem Location: south Bend on Jul 5, 2008 at 09:11 PM
I believe the Mayor should start using urban patrol. Let's use our National Guard to patrol the streets in mini tanks. They could sit on top with their rifles and lights. Call it a training op. What great experieince for the futrure if the get shipped over seas. If these people want to make a war zone to live in then treat it as such. The only thing the Mayor is interested in is floating bonds to improve the Notre Dame area. What about making it safe for the children on the West Side of town. They can't even play outside without the prospect of getting shot. Stop making excuses because of the economy. The economy is no excuse for crime. On my way home from work at 4:00 am, I noticed 5 males fighting on Eddy and LaSalle. No cops around. There is no reason for these people to be out at that time of night fighting. Perhaps if they were more focused on God and forgiveness so few would have to die because of revenge. Oh by the way, THUG is not a racist term. Look it up, and get a job.
Posted by: JJJ Location: South Bend on Jul 5, 2008 at 09:10 PM
The mayor's solution to this problem will typically be to call up some neighborhood preachers. As if they have any influence. Maybe the locals can organize another anti crime march. We know those things always work. Maybe the Gary East joke is old but I hear South Bend is being called the "other" Benton Harbor on the St. Joseph river.
Posted by: john Location: sb on Jul 5, 2008 at 08:55 PM
Yes, the Gary East joke is getting old...Gary is safer.
Posted by: anon Location: out west on Jul 5, 2008 at 08:52 PM
Anonymous on July 5: Amen Brother. Really, who would think I would be packin' heat. Little chick, dressed nice... victim? Don't count on it. Indiana is the first state to offer lifetime CCW. Check into it and be safe. I know it's my job to keep me safe. Police can't / won't always help.
Posted by: Jay Location: Mishawaka on Jul 5, 2008 at 07:49 PM
The New Gary East joke is getting old.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 5, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Welcome to Mayor Luecke's "New Gary East"!
Posted by: J Location: SB on Jul 5, 2008 at 05:51 PM
Yeah, I can just picture the magical utopia that South Bend would be if Lueke were not the mayor.
Posted by: mike Location: south bend on Jul 5, 2008 at 05:37 PM
i know most of you who write the word thug are white. when a white person commits a crime they are never called thugs by white people.
Posted by: mike Location: south bend on Jul 5, 2008 at 05:35 PM
i agree everybody should carry a gun everybody. The same goes for any country they should all have weapons of mass destruction that way no one would think of messing