Goshen bar raid yields 200+ citations and arrests
Goshen bar raid yields 200+ citations and arrests Save Email Print
Posted: 7:39 PM Jun 29, 2008
Last Updated: 7:24 AM Jun 30, 2008
Reporter: Ryan Famuliner
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Goshen police, with the help of county and state police forces raided the bar, "7 Segundos," on 3rd St. in Goshen Saturday night, after months of complaints about illegal activity.

There were between 200 and 250 citations and arrests as a result of the raid.

Police say they found a large number of juveniles under the age of 21, and many under 18 in the bar.

They were cited for illegal entry to a bar, and some for illegal consumption of alcohol.

Meanwhile, police also found drugs inside, and “several” people are now in the Elkhart County jail on felony charges.

Those who live and work near the bar say it's about time.

“About every weekend we've been hearing the bass through the walls and just really loud music. The loud music I don’t mind very much its just feeling the bass is the biggest part I was worried about,” said Timothy Strycker, who lives across the street from the 7 Segundos with his wife and 20-month old daughter.

So, for neighbors, the raid is a relief.

“Yes I am glad they’re doing something about it. We hadn’t said anything before, but we'd thought about contacting someone and letting them know about it,” Strycker said.

Meanwhile, other neighbors had complained regularly.

Police say the raid came after 10 months of complaints of criminal activity.

Businesses that share the parking lot say it had become a concern.

“About every weekend there's a policeman or two trying to break things up and there’s fights going on. So its a lot different crowd coming in then what we have at Constant Spring, it makes it a little dangerous and sketchy,” said Emily Stutzman, who works at “Constant Spring,” a neighboring bar.

The citations and arrests for underage drinking, drugs, and other charges; don't seem to be unexpected.

“Those were some things that we'd heard that were kind of going on, and from different things that we've seen, I wasn’t surprised at all,” Stutzman said.

Those who say they're tired of wild weekends, hope they'll finally have some peace and quiet.

“Glad that they stopped it, it’s just the bass and the fighting and the drugs that were going on, it’s just not acceptable,” Strycker said.

WNDU wasn't able to contact anyone from 7 Segundos for comment Sunday.

Neighbors say the bar hasn't been there too long. They think it opened sometime around October of last year.

Police haven't provided any specifics yet on what kind of trouble the club may face after all this.

Those we talked to who were there Saturday night say people were all over the street and roads were blocked off; including a section of Main Street.

The bar is downtown, just a few blocks away from the county courthouse.

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Posted by: RedParrot Location: Elkhart on Jul 9, 2008 at 03:03 PM
Look, all of this bickering back and forth isn't doing ANY good for any of us...So if the illegals are doing bad then sooner or later they will get caught. There are good and bad in all RACES not just HISPANICS. Yes I agree if they are here then *Try to become legal* but just like the rest of us---There are good people they're not all bad!!!

Posted by: SugarLips Location: @Dunlap on Jul 8, 2008 at 03:55 PM
uscitizen dont i know you from somewhere..? anyways i totally agree with you..! everyone stop fighting and start loving..!

Posted by: uscitizen Location: goshen on Jul 8, 2008 at 03:18 PM
not all illegals get paid less...i know in the factories around here they make BANK! thats probably why they are all here. just look at the sweet rides they have, you cant tell me they have those making $8.00 an hour and paying support for 2 kids. they are however hardworking and they dont seem to complain as much about the work that they do.

Posted by: Sparkel Location: elkhart on Jul 8, 2008 at 03:00 PM
Lucy I don't think that Israel is guilty...many people don't understand the whole "illegal Latino" situation, I am bi-racial and I have had to learn to cope with the whole racial comments. and even though I am only partial Hispanic it tends to triggered a sensitive spot...I'm not saying that illegal's should be welcomed with open arms; but its almost impossible to get rid of ALL the illegal's in this country! Many people don't understand the real situation. I have heard so many uneducated comments that are just dumb...but the problem is people choose to listen to people who only can complain and don't even understand the situation! Israel's comments bothered many people when he said that Americans are dumb and lazy ( which is so stereotype) we all know its not realistically true and perhaps it doesn't even pertain to one but it still makes us upset.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Jul 8, 2008 at 02:10 PM
WOW, lots of comments from 'Israel'--someone on the defensive side? You know that makes you look guilty?

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 8, 2008 at 01:07 PM
bob well I guess this country and the illegals are even then (sarcasm) they get low paying jobs while u.s citizens get double the amount, they dont see a dime of their taxes deducted from their checks and get charged with child support. Oh and about translators in court they charge the illegal for translator cost so its NOT coming out of your pocket mr.taxpayer! How do you know fo a fact that they are sucking resources dry give me #'s and sparkel and school situation i agree with you both.Sparkle im glad you said that at the end of your paragraph, kids now a days dont see race. And I know alot of illegals who act 'right' and respect the laws. They have a home, kids, wife and go to Church and really follow God's path do you mean to tell me these people deserve to get kicked out?!?!

Posted by: Sparkel Location: Elkhart on Jul 8, 2008 at 10:59 AM
School Situation: I totally agree with you...however i wouldnt say that children are getting "dumb by the day" i would like to say, that because "the average middle class/high class" ppl have it so much easier than in the past it almost uncalls to be as smart...but the one positve thing ISREAL is that these kids whom you call dumb are ones that arent as racist or ignorant as the parents whom are here fighting with one another(when it comes to different cultures and races)..

Posted by: schoolsituation Location: goshen on Jul 8, 2008 at 10:26 AM
israel, the reason people seem to be getting "dumber" as you put it, is because parents seem to think that it is the public school systems job to teach their children...after all we pay taxes for it, right? WRONG! parents need to see to it that their child is learning what they need to be learning in school and if they aren't, heres an idea, spend some time teaching them! parents pawn their children off to wherever they can for their education. its FREE day care to them. meanwhile the teachers are crippled because of the horrible homes that these kids are coming from and the cut in funding.

Posted by: bob Location: goshen on Jul 8, 2008 at 04:55 AM
Illegal is Illegal!!! Rising vehicle insurance from uninsured, unlicensed illegal drivers on the road. Rising health care costs so the uninsured, illegal, false social security card carrying folks in this country can get free health care. Having to pay translators for 911 operators, courts, and business not to mention every thing has to be printed twice, once in English and again in Spanish. Remember the day when you could order a Big Mac or Whopper and be able to understand the person taking that order? They are sucking the resources dry in Goshen and if left unchecked will leave the City of Goshen and surrounding communities a wasteland of crime and drug ridden slums. And some food for thought if a bunch of Mexicans can get here so easy think about how it looks to some terrorist wanting to blow up a building or school. A few things will help this situation; lots of buses and a border that makes the 38th parallel in Korea look like a chain link fence!!!

Posted by: Goshen Res Location: Goshen on Jul 7, 2008 at 09:40 PM
TO ANON: La Casa doesn't only help hispanics they help those of all races. I am white and have gotten assistance thru there, as have many others WHITE, BLACK, HISPANIC...etc. In case you don't know about La Casa, they have helped to revitalize alot of the town. Helping Goshen to look better. If you don't know the facts, then don't blab!

Posted by: m4 on Jul 7, 2008 at 07:20 PM
we need to put a SEAL team on the border.

Posted by: mike Location: elkhart on Jul 7, 2008 at 03:43 PM
bottom line here is if you're illegal, you deserve to be deported back to wherever you came from, no questions asked.....if you want to be an american, do it legally, learn the language and act appropriately.....don't use your race or economic status as a reason to act improperly......whites wouldn't get away with it in your country so why should you get away with it here?.......we (the taxpayers)are already paying way to much for you to live here.......and i agree, our gov't is so stupid it makes me sick.....they waste our hard earned money on programs for lazy illegals......and our other lazy non working bums........

Posted by: CONNIE Location: HOLLAND MI on Jul 7, 2008 at 11:47 AM
I THINK WE SHOULD THEM ALL BACK IF THEY ARE LEGAL OR NOT. THEY DONT BELONG HERE. THEY JUST TAKE ADVANTAGE

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Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 7, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Ok first of all im not an 'anchor baby' because both of my parents are LEGAL citizens. And about America being dumb yes its getting dumber and dumber by the day. Im not saying the baby boomers or previous americans were the dumb ones because they are the ones that laid the foundation. Im saying kids in SCHOOL TODAY are dumber by the DAY! And please 'in Goshen' GET SERIOUS! do you hear of drive by's everyday?? or of dead gangbangers every day? NO! YOU DONT so please STOP SAYING GOSHEN is bad. Do you get mugged in the Downtown area?? and if you were too Race wouldnt play a part because anybody can do it. I've seen african americans ROB people does that mean all of them are like that?? and anonymous quote me on where I said americans were PIGS?

Posted by: Anon Location: Goshen on Jul 6, 2008 at 06:57 PM
Don't blame the police. Their orders come from the Mayor who is content with the illegals as is the Council. One councilwoman's husband is the head of LaCasa. Pay attention to all the money that goes to LaCasa and not to the Police Department to build their forces. Mayors top picks: LaCasa or bike trails. Then we have a Judge who is so incredibly racial & scared. She sees Mexicans for $$. They all get community service at a fee to benifit the Judge

Posted by: steve Location: warsaw on Jul 5, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Israel if you were a true American citizen you would not be leaving comments like you do and yes I am very racist , you and everyone of the illegals that here are the reason this country is int the shape it is in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joe on Jul 5, 2008 at 08:19 PM
This is just the start as long as Goshen gives the illegals free rein of their city it will get worse. The blame lies with the city of Goshen and the people of Goshen. Better get a hand on it before it gets out of control .

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 5, 2008 at 09:46 AM
Well Israel, if that IS the truth, I would consider you one of those "anchor babies" that shouldn't have citizenship just because you was born here. I honestly don't understand how you think the way you do about American Citizens (and you are one you say) being lazy and being pigs. You are way off base on this one. How do you think this country has become one of the super powers of the world if we all are lazy???? My next logical question is, if you think this way, WHY on God's green Earth do you want to stay here? That's one of your really great freedoms - you DO have to right to LEAVE!! Pack up and just GO to where ever it is you think is so much better! That IS a right you know?? Your "truth" you always talk about is so distorted. Sad part is, you are one of those citizens you talk about if you ARE actually legal. See my point? I am NOT against anyone bettering themself by coming to this country - just do it LEGALLY and become a citizen. Fight in our military if called!

Posted by: In Goshen Location: Goshen on Jul 5, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Anonymous, you are correct. If the Mayor does not stop pandering to illegals, there WILL be violence. I hate to think about it, but you can just feel it when your in this town. The Mayor says we have no gang problem, but we do, we see it every day. Most of the gang problems are illegals. Is the Mayor getting his votes from them? Is that how he stays in office when so many here are sick of the way he panders to them? A recent grade school class in ligonier had only three non hispanics in it. THATS where our Mayor wants Goshen to be in a few years. Wake up, Mayor! You going to be responsible for what I fear is coming!

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 5, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Its funny how all of you assume im illegal I was BORN and RAISED here now if you dont like what I say then thats a shame because I only speak truth, and I guess all of you dont like and cant handle the truth!

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 4, 2008 at 05:37 PM
All I know is if our government doesn't get a real handle on this illegal immigration thing really quick, I'm just afraid there is going to violence that has never been seen before. The pot is boiling and I fear it's going to boil over, SOON. No one cared too much if any company hired an illegal or two, but when it comes time for a layoff, the illegals should be the one to go first. I don't condon them being here in the first place, but they are here now - who is going to send them all back?? You? Me? I AM an American Citizen. I like a lot of average citizens and we are NOT LAZY!! You come over here and call us lazy and stupid, so answer this question? WHY ARE YOU HERE THEN???? You want to be my neighbor or my friend or maybe my boss?? If you're smart enough to do the job, FINE - go back to Mexico and get back in line and WAIT YOUR TURN!! Knock on the Dept of Immigrations door every once in awhile. If we "need" you, WE will let you know. GET IT NOW???

Posted by: William Location: Elkhart on Jul 4, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Israel, you are very wrong about ENL/ESL in our public school systems. It is there to resource legal residents, paid for by our taxes. It is not there to be abused by illegal ailens. Nor is it a full day program for non-english speaking students. ENL/ESL students are resourced for only part of their school day. The rest of their time is spent in regular classes. It DOES very much take a toll on the teachers! And for every time we hire new ENL/ESL resource teachers, it takes a toll on the budget. I'm not making any positive or negative conclusions here, just giving you real facts.

Posted by: steve Location: warsaw on Jul 3, 2008 at 09:08 PM
Israel are you legal or illegal wait a minute why did I even ask I think we all know the answer to that question so how do you like living the American life being illegal . That crack about the U.S. being one of the dumbest countries is the most ignorant thing you could have said look its like this if you dont like it here go back across the border and starve for all I care that would be one less that they have to deport !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 3, 2008 at 06:42 PM
And not only that The People of Mexico want the americans who committ murder here in the U.S then flee to mexico to GET out of their Country because they dont want murderers down there or They want MTV to STOP doing their spring break down there because it only brings drunks and it cost money to the Mexican Police and the Mexican Citizens to keep them in jail. You dont hear Mexico complaining do you...

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 3, 2008 at 02:58 PM
'beautifulgoshen' thank you for seeing what I see in Goshen. The gov. of Goshen wants to keep all the illegals because its giving them more money. New renovations...from the money the gov. steals from illegals. Every week they get their checks taxes are deducted like everone elses but the only difference is that they dont report taxes so were is this money they deduct? I wish all of you people talking about illegals lived one day in their shoes lets see what you do when your family needs food, shelter, and your children get sick. People are so quick to judge. Lets say canada was better than here and America would be a poor country all of you people would be doing the same that Illegals are doing now. Wait to get a visa? when, they just take your money and never call you back so whats easier wait for NEVER while your family starves or jump a fence where you could provide a better living for your family. You people just dont get it.

Posted by: noneedtobnasty on Jul 3, 2008 at 02:57 PM
hey israel, there is no need to be nasty and say we are one of the dumbest countries...i mean if that were really the case then we wouldnt even have a problem with so many people wanting to come to our country, illegal or not.

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 3, 2008 at 02:44 PM
And about schools there is a program called ENL or ESL for other states that program is for migrant workers with kids that need help learning the english language,they keep them seperated from kids that already know the english language,so dont come at me with that we slow your children down, I guess america cant take it that its one of the dumest countries so they look for a scapegoat. I've seen alot of illegals using the hospital but they end up paying cash or in payments but they pay, thats already more money for this gov. And not only that its a little weird that every illegal with false identification has to pay child support when they or the rightfull owners of the ss dont have children, WOW were does this money go to? hummm. And courthouses want to get illegals with DUIs they want that money off of them. And illegals dont pack jails African Americans wich they are citizens are the leading population in jail across the U.S So anon save it cuz your running out of people to blame

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 3, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Anon about the jobs, most people are not working because they dont want to, work is to work not socialize most americans I know always go to factory jobs to socialize and not work and to top it off they hardly want to work, the company wants production and hispanics eaven illegals give them production while americans just give the soda machines production all they do at work is lazy around smoking a cigarette. About identity theft if you have an ENGLISH NAME you DONT have to worry about IDENTITY theft I mean cmon it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that is pretty uncommon for an illegal to be name 'charles smith'. And most of the hispanics get the ss sold to them by legal citizens that see the need for them to work and feed their families. Americans have false ID's too. About jails being filled with the illegals well what about the $1,000 the county gets to bail them out and they dont return to court where does all this money go to?

Posted by: Jenna Location: SB on Jul 3, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Isreal- while I see your point (but don't agree), the point people are making is that if we weed out all the illegals, our country would be better off because it will automatically reduce the crime rate because they are ILLEGAL. To clean up the country we have to start in our own backyards. Keep the raids on bars, factories, companies, etc. coming. Get rid of the illegals then let's get rid of the legal wastes of space that deal drugs, murder, etc.

Posted by: Anon on Jul 3, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Israel: I will say this for the last time.Ten years, twenty years ago Goshen was not the same place it is now. If you are here ILLEGALLY than that makes you an illegal. Period. Yes, there was an officer killed-it gripped the community because it was so rare and unpresedented violence for this community. What do you say to the jobs at the factories that have been filled by non-citizens? While AMERICAN men and women go without work? What about Identity theft? False ID's? Emergency rooms, schools, and courthouses,and jails filled with illegals while LEGAL citizens are waiting on the back burner. I am fed up with the "oh you have always had crime, etc. etc. " bit. Let me tell you, crime HAS increased and most of it is committed by ILLEGALS. You see when you commit a crime against immigration, identity, social services, etc, suddenly what is stopping the Illegals against any other crime? Please, I was born here-I Know what I am talking about. It's not about immmigration, it's about ILLEGALS!

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 3, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Anon you dont get it, Goshen is and has been the same as a matter of fact before many illegals came a police officer had already been murdered and a person had went on a shooting spree. Hispanics arent the only drug runners there is plenty of americans involved in that, all im saying is you need to stop blaming the 'illegals' for everything bad thats happening here. And please stop saying that Goshen is a bad place cmon go to blacksquirrel dont tell me you will get mugged there you probably wont eaven get mugged in the downtown area, so Goshen is not eaven close to bad.

Posted by: beautifulgoshen Location: goshen on Jul 3, 2008 at 11:05 AM
i dont know what youre all talking about "goshen used to be beautiful and now its a trash hole?" i know that in some neighborhoods they have gone downhill but if you visit downtown goshen, i think that the city has taken big strides to improve it. look at all the nice bike trails we have all over the town, and the flowers planted right on the corner of main and plymouth where 2 dumpy houses use to stand. the mill race, the hattle hotel, the shoots hotel...all of these places are sooo much nicer than when i was growing up! we also have some nice places going into the shops downtown...the blue gill...very good food...very upscale! and el forno, also very good! so as far as goshen becoming a dump, i think on the contrary, it is becoming more beautiful and i say thank you to the government in goshen for making it so nice!

Posted by: Anon on Jul 3, 2008 at 08:23 AM
ISREAL:You aren't making any sense. This is NOT about LEGAL residents. It's about the huge wave of ILLEGALS residing in Goshen. I have been here all my life- living outside of Goshen and working there now. Make no mistake. It's changed and NOT for the better. Why do you think it's okay for illegals to be in Goshen at all? The point being, Goshen's mayor should be outraged at this. Instead you hear nothing. The local government should take back beautiful Goshen and CLEAN IT UP! Instead the Mayor is sitting there like a whipped dog playing both sides to stay in office. Such a shame. It's not about racism, it's about legality. WAKE UP GOSHEN!

Posted by: Goshen Man Location: Goshen on Jul 3, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Bar was a converted warehouse/storage building across from homes that have been there for decades. Goshen is dying because of a mentality that permeates the mennonite community that includes many of the city council memebers, the Mayor Allan Kauffman, Superindendent of Schools Bruce Stahly, and principal of Goshen High School Jim Kirkton. This mentality believes that the illegal status of illegal should be ignored and these people should be given incentives to become part of the community. Jim Kirkton, principal of Goshen HS sent a letter to Congressman Donnelly (sp?) asking for compassion for the hispanic population at GHS. According to Principal Kirkton, over 70% of Hispanics at GHS are "undocumented" (his words). He emailed a copy of this letter to all employees of GHS. Would not be too hard for a news agency to uncover a copy of the letter as a copy was sent to well over a hundred people. No one (WNDU?) seems interested in that angle of the story.

Posted by: crimedawg on Jul 3, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Underage drinking is rampant---sex, drugs and now rap trash music--punish the kids and the parents-- parents need to do thier jobs--if Dad or Mom is incarcirated--send the kid to jail with them.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 2, 2008 at 07:35 PM
Israel - I've BEEN to Mexico. I KNOW how they live down there. It's just like what I saw for the last 2 years with this "neighbor". Let's really face the whole truth here. You LOVE the way Americans live. You WANT to be one but can't do it legally. You don't want to WAIT in line and take your turn for citizenship!! So what illegals do is BARGE your way to the FRONT OF THE LINE and push those that have waited, further back in the line and make them wait longer and longer now. How is THAT FAIR?? I'll stand by what I said before - ALL illegals need to pack up their crap and high-tail it for the border - period. If our government doesn't take care of this, there ARE a lot of action groups that WILL. No, I am NOT an advocate of violence, but I WILL defend my family and our freedom. I will lay down my life so my kids and their family can live free. That's my promise to you and anyone else that thinks they can come to MY COUNTRY and change our way of living?? Never...never..never

Posted by: Sparkel Location: Elkhart on Jul 2, 2008 at 02:23 PM
STOPTHECRIME: Cant say "write" it any better! I am not scared either! I will also tell what I know!

Posted by: E.C Location: Dunlap on Jul 2, 2008 at 02:17 PM
Anonymous Latina...Maybe the owner was spiking your drink; that's why you think he was so friendly..! Speaking from experience, that place was a trash hole! And there was drugs, and fights ( a lot)!! I went there once and decided that I didn't need to go back for a second opinion. (sure the minors parents are at fault but so is the owner)!

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Jul 2, 2008 at 02:17 PM
anonymous latina- so you DID see fights, and drugs? By saying you never saw NO drugs or no fights sounds like you saw them. Or it's just a double negative? Either way doesn't make too much sense. Read your comment again-really slow....

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jul 2, 2008 at 09:26 AM
Im not against the police for doing their job, but what I am against is these parents concerned about goshen being the nice town it once was...well let me tell you something, lets say for example you got rid of all the illegal immigrants your children would be left right? Isnt there racist gangs from your race? And not only that there is alot of 'wiggers' (wiggers is slang for a white person trying to act black) who listen to rap and think they are gangsters. Trying to fight all the time. Ok lets not forget about the meth labs, remember officer Goodwin (R.I.P) he got killed by who? and american citizen, and what about the nu-wood shooting? an american. And constant spring is not full of saints. So before you point fingers make sure your hands aint dirty first. 'anonymous' im glad you dont live next door to me because I would show you up on keeping my house cleaner than yours, you make it seem like some americans dont have junk in their yard.

Posted by: Anonymous Latina on Jul 1, 2008 at 05:52 PM
Well a lot of people have been talking about how bad the club is or was. From experience I've been there soooo many times and I never saw NO FIGHTS, NO DRUGS, OR THE MUSIC BEING LOUD. Some people are very immature, yes probably some minors were there but wouldnt that be the parents fault and not the owners? If you werent there when it happened then u have no right to talk. Like I said I was there soo many times and I never had a bad experience plus the owners were very friendly with me. In other words, I got nothing to complain about on the contrary I will keep going.

Posted by: Anon Location: Goshen on Jul 1, 2008 at 02:25 PM
Kudos to Anon 7/1,8:47pm. You said exactly what I would have! I'm moving from "little Mexico" as soon as I can! Used to love the town, not any longer. It's been ruined! I have no problem with people here legally, but that's not the case in Goshen! People have their heads in the sand!

Posted by: stopthecrime Location: goshen on Jul 1, 2008 at 01:29 PM
It is time to send a message to all communities, this behavior wont be tolerated in this town! you cant beat a man to death and throw him in the river and get away with it. everybody is too scared to say what they know because they are scared of deportation or reprocussions from the people who did this, but we all know that this came from the crowd at 7 segundos that night. Heres a message for you, Im not scared of being deported, im here legally and im not scared of you! I WILL TELL WHAT I KNOW!!!

Posted by: Wil Location: Elkhart on Jul 1, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Everyone that goes to a club like this is looking for trouble. Afterall, it's run by Mexicans and caters to illegals who, by the way, are trying to take over the country by selling alcohol and drugs to minors. Do we even have to mention gang violence on the rise because of all the Mexicans, and and don't forget all the blacks causing their particular kind of street violence, with all their dirty rap lyrics and what not. And, also all the uneducated, poorly-dressed white trash people, if you can even call them people. In fact, everyone, I mean everyone is just so nasty I can't even stand to be around any of them. Perhaps, I'll get rich one day and buy my own island and run things the way things should be run. And I'll have no neighbors with loud music, or barking dogs, and no illegal, drug selling, lazy, good for nothing people to have to deal with. Sound good? Well, you're not invited. I don't like you.

Posted by: Latina Location: Elkhart on Jul 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM
What the heck were kids under 18 doing out so late anyways..? and why in the world would the parents let them go to that sort of "hang out spot"...coming from a Latina you don't have to actually go to 7 segundos to know what kind of trash is associated with it!

Posted by: Latina from Location: Goshen on Jul 1, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Coming from a latina I am so HAPPY that this happend! Personally I had never been to 7 segundos but I have heard so many bad things about it! And I dont know why so many Latinos are upset about it! Not only should the owner get into BIG trouble but also the parents of those teens! Why would the parents let thier children party all night long when they are still running around in "diapers"..? Besides isnt there a curfue for all these little kids.?

Posted by: soverytired on Jul 1, 2008 at 09:56 AM
JB: People everywhere get into trouble, but it happens far more often to certain populations than others. When you're done with your "looky me, I'm ginst racism" song and dance, can you please explain this.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Jul 1, 2008 at 09:54 AM
Hey misled minor, did you ever think that maybe these people lived there PRIOR to the bar moving in? Think about that next time you tell people they shouldn't move next to a bar. Maybe they were there first and the bar moved into their neighborhood. Maybe the bar should move out of city limits if it's going to be that disturbing.

Posted by: Anon on Jul 1, 2008 at 09:47 AM
Goshen used to be an awesome town. Beautiful, and clean. Crime was practically unheard of. That was before illegals took over. I know I work there. For all you bleeding heart liberals out there crying, "oh Freedom in the United States" blah, blah, blah. Freedom for legal citizens only. Freedom from crime committed from illegal tresspassers, freedom from identity theft, freedom from massive drug gangs, freedom from supporting unemployed illegals. Freedom from massive backlog in the emergency rooms, freedom from non-insured drunk drivers, freedom from a foreign language being shoved down our throats. Freedom from two sets of laws, one for 'poor illegals that don't understand our language or laws'and one set for legal citizens. Freedom from tax money and jobs being handed out to these illegals. Freedom is what we all want! Yeah you are right, this is the land of the FREE!

Posted by: Connie Location: Goshen on Jul 1, 2008 at 08:56 AM
As I was on the way home Saturday I noticed all the police cars uptown. I could not believe there were no news vehicles anywhere covering what was going on. I have lived in Goshen all my life and have never seen so many people downtown at 2 A.M. It is about time they did something with this bar that was somehow railroaded in to town with no one knowing about it and even got a liquer license. I don't know how the Mexicans do it, but they do all the time and get away with it. Anyone who hasn't driven by this place on third street on a Friday or Saturday night ought to do so around 11-12 midnight and see the parking lots and the people everywhere and hear the loud music. It is a disgrace to Goshen.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 1, 2008 at 08:09 AM
To Anonymous on June 30th. Answer a question for me please? WHY is it everytime a Hispanic group assembles, it ALWAYS ends in a fight or someone getting killed??? Also, why is it that most ALL Mexicans have a bigtime problem with keeping something clean and neat?? I had a Mexican family living in a NEW HOME 4 houses down from me. They NEVER mowed their yard and junk was all over the front yard!! The rest of us neighbors had to finally get ahold of Code Enforcement to have them take care of it. We got TIRED of leaving notes in their mailbox, ASKING them to PLEASE MOW YOUR GRASS!! They finally had their car repossessed and their house was foreclosed on. GLAD the are gone!! I can only hope we get someone in there that APPRECIATES a newer home and takes care of things like they should!!

Posted by: Edgar Location: Goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 11:40 PM
That was the best thing police did. I never liked that place I heard there were underage drinking and doing drugs and people figthing at the parking lot and things like that. I hope the city won't let them reopen that bad place. Getting that place closed makes happy and feel myself safer.

Posted by: misled minor Location: marshall county on Jun 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM
How incredibly ignorant can you people be? Not everyone there was Hispanic, not everyone there was drinking or participating in illegal activity, and not everyone there knew the place was a BAR. It is advertised as a club (hence the name CLUB 7Segundos) It was not poseted anywhere that you had to be 21 to enter. Blame the bar owners and employees for not doing their jobs, not the patrons of the business. Some people like to relax, dance, and have a good time with some friends. I respect the law enforcement for doing their jobs in this situation, however the racist, ignorant people posting on this page should be ashamed of themselves for assuming that everyone involved was an illegal, drug dealing, underage Mexicans. P.S. If you don't like loud music, don't move in next to a bar, use your common sense.

Posted by: I was there Location: Elkhart on Jun 30, 2008 at 09:49 PM
This club was willingly letting people that were under age in. You show ID when you get in, if you're 21 or older they would give you a wristband so you could buy alcohol. No one there knew it was a 21 and older club since they were showing IDs that showed they were only 18, 19, and 20. nor were they trying to hide their age. The club owners had no postings of age requirements, they are the ones at fault here.

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 09:27 PM
oh i forgot 'an american citizen' have you been living under a rock, do you not know were mtv goes to do spring breaks?? Thats right in mexico. Those college party kids dont end up in prison like you assume, they go to sleep in their nice 5 star hotels. Oh and there is 5 star hotels in mexico if you didnt know...

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 09:21 PM
Alan im here... all of you people need to shut up about goshen being a bad place. So what am i not going to drive trough elkhart no more because there is alot of african americans or through middlebury because there is alot of amish?? you people make it seem like goshen is a gettho. But hey if you want to waste more gas driving around it go ahead. Oh and the goshen news said that ONLY 1 person had false id out of the 200 people they got. So I guess your country is stuck with us, becuase its our country too.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen Location: Elkhart County on Jun 30, 2008 at 09:07 PM
I wonder how many will actually show up for there hearing...Anyone want to bet on a number. Excuse me, is the Prosecutor running for re-election? Hey "common sense" I'll bet the new jail could be filled by the 4th of July with illeagal's....for say a $10 bounty. Oh hell we'll get off our a__ and do it free, if you don't let them go free. Maybe now that gas is so high we can get back to real beat patrol work...on foot. Meet the residence...see the crime first hand and make the arrest. WOW what a concept.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 30, 2008 at 07:58 PM
why is it when something happens it is always blamed on iileagals. I dont recall anythign being siad about them being illeagals. Grow up people all mankind makes mistakes and act bad at one time or another. We are no better then the next person

Posted by: Hubbub Location: Elkhart County on Jun 30, 2008 at 06:54 PM
Goshen was a great town when I moved there in the 80's. It now resembles the Barrios of Mexico. I saw the hadwritting on the wall in the 90's and got my children out of the school system before they were subject to the gang crap. It's about time the police started to clean things up. The drug problems are out of control since our illegal freinds are the major suppliers of cocaine and weed. GET SOME PRIDE GOSHEN!!! Hats of the the area police for this raid, you guys are heros in my book

Posted by: John Location: Mishawaka on Jun 30, 2008 at 06:02 PM
I agree with Common Sense in Goshen! Kudos to our combined police agencies for a job well done. If most of the public would walk in a police officers shoes for just ONE day they might just possibly understand how difficult their job is! Hats off to our law enforcement officers......including the Prosecutors Office! Wow....I can only imagine their case overload as a result of this bust! Good job and hats off to law enforcement officers, both on the street and representing the State in the courtroom! Prosecute these crimes to the fullest and make a statement to your community!

Posted by: Maria Location: Goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 05:47 PM
Okay, it was a good think they did that but that long 10 months and first of all. everytime the place was open they have had police officers inside the club. and the police didnt say anything or what????Illegal aliens breaking the law... everyone breaks the law. Its a club so what they should have the music low????? Now people cant do anything b/c OTHER people dont like it.

Posted by: Ms. Sarcasm Location: south bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 05:46 PM
C'mon people--you're so quick to judge. Only God can judge these people. Who cares if there were illegal aliens, America's a FREE country right? What gave it away that there were illegal aliens anyway? Is 7 Segundos spanish or something? hhhmmmm...I'm sure they're all good people and didn't mean for their hard partying days to get out of hand. Yeah, mind your own business they were just having a good time! (p.s. no I'm not serious nimwit)

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 05:41 PM
Is it called Due process?

Posted by: JB Location: Mishawaka on Jun 30, 2008 at 04:32 PM
I commend the police for a great job. As far as the people in here stereotyping you all need to grow up and stop your stupidity. All I can say is its sad and adds fuel to hate. So unamerican.

Posted by: Chaz Location: South Bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Newsflash people. The bass is going to stay. It's a bar. They'll have different patrons but the loud music? Yeah, it's a bar.

Posted by: David Location: Middlebury on Jun 30, 2008 at 04:04 PM
I think it is the duty and the responsibility of every American to take a bus load of illegals back to their own country. Sign me up, I'll take the first load.

Posted by: Redneck Johnny Location: countryside on Jun 30, 2008 at 04:02 PM
its about time we take back our citys and streets.

Posted by: claudia Location: elkhart on Jun 30, 2008 at 03:59 PM
Well i was one of the ones arrested and i think that the news always says what the cops want them to say and doesn't get the other side of the story. First of all the bar section is separated from the rest of the club. They are strict about not letting you in that section if you're under 21. I bet you the ones that were drinking was else where because there's no way you can drink in there if you're under 21.

Posted by: common sense Location: goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 03:40 PM
well here comes the police bashers all holding hands, one complaint move in and arrest everybody is that how you think it works. Let me start you off with some good reading it is called the United States Consitution maybe you have heard of it. There are certain things you have to have to move in and take action. Just because a complaint is made does not mean that you can make an arrest. Most of the complaints are anonymous and if you read that little document that I mentioned at first you will see that people accused of a crime have the right to face their accusers. One of those so called rights Iam sure you also whine about. by making an arrest on an anonymous complaint would turn anyone of these people in a law suit that would give your tax money to those illegals. So if you can do it better get off your A** and do it yourself, I know it is easier to set back point a finger and whine like a spoiled child, but at least your good at it. Good job to all Officers involved.

Posted by: get real on Jun 30, 2008 at 03:23 PM
Steve-O I hope your being sarcastic. If not, you are a true moron.

Posted by: Israel Location: Goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 02:22 PM
Alan im here... and yes if americans would not use so much drugs there wouldnt be a need for drug traffickers (from mexico) to bring so much here. And what is the problem with people down talking goshen so much, all of you people saying your scared to come trough goshen need to really shut up. So what, am I going to be scared to drive trough elkhart because there is alot of african americans or trough middleburry because there is alot of amish, you people are stupid. y'all make it seem like goshen is a gettho. and bee segundo means 'seconds' in spanish. And to 'an american citizen' are you stupid or something americans act like that in mexico are you forgetting mtv's spring break arent you 'citizens' so happy to go down to mexico and get so drunk off of tequila and return to your 5 star hotel( to the ignorant people who think mexico is just cactus and donkeys) and fall peacefully asleep. Morons...

Posted by: RID THE TRASH! on Jun 30, 2008 at 01:28 PM
IF THEY ARE ILLEGAL, THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS AS A US CITIZEN. DEPORT THEM IMMEDIATELY AND SEND THEM BACK. NO IF, AND OR BUTS, WE'RE SICK OF THIS CRAP.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 01:15 PM
To all that are complaining about the police taking so long to do anything, obviously you are living in TV land. Here in the REAL WORLD, to get something like this accomplished takes time. Gathering enough evidence, work between agencies (State and Excise). This isn't something that happens overnight. So those of you that don't know how it is in the Real World, go back to your TV's and quit critizing things you have no knowledge of.

Posted by: Linda Location: Granger on Jun 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM
To Steve O. I'll bet the neighborhood of people was there before this bar. Not all people let off steam after working all week by being obnoxiously loud or by fighting and disrupting everyone around them. Therefore stop sounding like it's all about you and people like you who just want to raise Hell no matter who it hurts. I personally think the Bar should be closed down at least for a while and maybe the people who frequent the dive would catch on that certain behavior and noise won't be tolerated.

Posted by: R. R. Location: Elkhart on Jun 30, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Now let the police tell us why it took so long.

Posted by: Harry Location: South Bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Wow! What a surprise. I wonder how many illegals were rounded up.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 30, 2008 at 11:03 AM
What about how many were illegal residents?

Posted by: Disgusted Location: South Bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Wish South Bend would show as much concern for people in this by cracking down on certain bars around here...especially in Riverpark.

Posted by: mike Location: southbend on Jun 30, 2008 at 09:45 AM
Why did it take ten months of complants to see some action?

Posted by: Bee Location: South Bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 09:33 AM
What does Sugundo mean? Why does it take 7 of them?

Posted by: Taco Location: In a river on Jun 30, 2008 at 09:00 AM
I hope they all get 7 anos in jail, pintos!

Posted by: Steve-O on Jun 30, 2008 at 08:47 AM
People just need to mind there own business. Some people like to let of steam at the end of a hard work week. If you dont like the bass, MOVE.

Posted by: samantha Location: new carlisle on Jun 30, 2008 at 08:33 AM
More of the illegal alien crime-wave shut down. Looks like they're not welcome but still making the criminal presence known.

Posted by: Alan Location: Elkhart on Jun 30, 2008 at 08:17 AM
Great job by our law enforcement!!! Where is Israel from Goshen claiming Latinos only sell drugs because of white people that use them? Looks like it is in his own backyard today.

Posted by: Ryan Location: South Bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 07:53 AM
"WNDU wasn't able to contact anyone from 7 Segundos for comment Sunday." I read that as they could contact anyone who spoke English! Pack them all up and ship them back to Mexico where they belong!

Posted by: Robert Location: South Bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 07:00 AM
Now ice needs to go in there. They better bring a bus.

Posted by: Robert Location: South Bend on Jun 30, 2008 at 06:59 AM
It's about time.

Posted by: MOTHER OF ONE ARRESTED Location: C.O.E on Jun 30, 2008 at 06:15 AM
THEY NEED TO GET THE OWNERS .THEY NEVER ASKED THESE TEENAGERS FOR ID AND THE ANNONCEMENTS WERE NEVER STATED THAT ONLY FOR AGE 21 AND OLDER ...THE OWNER LET EVERYONE IN NO MATTER WHO YOU WERE NO QUESTIONS AS LONG AS YOU HAD THE MONEY TO GET IN YOU GOT IN...THIS PLACE WAS NOT KNOWN AS A BAR FOR OVER 21....THEY REALLY NEED TO GET THE OWNERS

Posted by: An American Citizen Location: Elkhart, IN on Jun 30, 2008 at 05:21 AM
Anyone want to guess how many illegal aliens were present, or estimate the drain on resources necessary to continue cleaning this mess up will be........ I do known that if I acted the same way in Mexico, I would be in one of their prisons.

Posted by: AlKy Location: Goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 03:57 AM
...after 10 months of complaints of criminal activity. Sounds like they couldve taken care of this problem a long time ago with less resources. Aw, my bad, I forgot about the math involved. 10 months ago there wouldve only been 10 arrest with 5 officers and minimal income for the county ( fines,bond,costs etc.) So they figure if they dont do thier job for 10 MONTHS this problem will grow,the jail will be done,filth attracts more filth,and when they finally have all the news outlets willing to run with this story...BAM ! Now we take them down with all this help because we waited to long to do anything in the first place. Proactive is a heck of alot cheaper than Reactive... and btw its your job.And it was your job 10 months ago.It is not a wait it out game to generate income for your county.Aw thats right were still payin for that jail and now we need to start paying for a new sheriffs office ! Peace out Goshen

Posted by: eh Location: mi on Jun 30, 2008 at 02:15 AM
wonder how many were illegal?

Posted by: homengoshen Location: goshen on Jun 30, 2008 at 02:08 AM
It's about time!!!!Then only way to solve the problem with this bar is for the police to raid it every weekend!

Posted by: T-Bone Location: G-Town on Jun 30, 2008 at 02:07 AM
This sucks; I loved that bar! Met my wife there during their "casino night".

Posted by: JIM Location: SOUTH BEND on Jun 30, 2008 at 12:40 AM
WOW IT ONLY TOOK 10 MOUNTHS.

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Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 29, 2008 at 10:26 PM
GOOD!!! Now just hold ALL of them and call INS and ICE to pick them up!! The entire town of Goshen is a trash pit. Its NOTHING like it was just 10 years ago when I worked there. I REFUSE to drive in Goshen now. I would rather drive out of my way, rather than go anywhere near that town!

Posted by: goshen Location: goshen on Jun 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Hasnt that club been open for a while and they just NOW did that. didnt it took then a while to say something about the drinking problem. i think a lot of places you have a club that sales alcohol and they have under age kids.

Posted by: susana Location: goshen on Jun 29, 2008 at 09:54 PM
i think its pretty stupid that they gave the teenagers tickets, 7 seconds have posters that 15 and up are welcome, plus there are police officers inside. They whould give those tickets to the owner because he knew better than this.

Posted by: Never voted democrat Location: Goshen on Jun 29, 2008 at 09:20 PM
Those poor mislead illegal aliens! How dare we raid their place of congregating! And to think they brought this with them from Mexico! We sure need more of this type of thing here in the good Ole' USA!

Posted by: a registered voting republican Location: Goshen on Jun 29, 2008 at 09:02 PM
And some on the Goshen City council were upset to have a gun store located near this business. Didn't want "those types." I wonder how many prospective gun buyers were underage drinkers doing drugs, that were fighting in Chads parking lot?

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Goshen on Jun 29, 2008 at 08:56 PM
This is exactly why bars should card their customers. I am never upset when asked for my ID because I know that they are just going their job to protect themselves. Just be smart when you go out next time and remember to have your ID and don't get mad if you get turned away because you don't. IT'S THE LAW!Hats off to the excise police and other agencies involved.

Posted by: mel Location: mishawaka on Jun 29, 2008 at 08:33 PM
So as i understand it.. police only raid the bars that have complaints of illegal activity.. i think they should have arrested the employees for not checking IDs or knowingly contributing to underage drinking... CONGRATULATIONS POLICE FOR FINALLY DOING YOUR JOB.. (after numerous complaints)

Posted by: Kevin Location: MIshawka on Jun 29, 2008 at 07:58 PM
Shame all of you.

Posted by: Mark on Jun 29, 2008 at 07:45 PM
What! Illegal aliens breaking the law! I'm shocked.


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