Who's watching the animals? Part 2
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St. Joseph County, IN
Posted: 12:09 AM May 22, 2008
Last Updated: 11:30 AM May 22, 2008
Reporter: Ryan Famuliner
Email Address: ryan.famuliner@wndu.com

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In our nearly two-month investigation, we sent hidden cameras through areas of the St. Joseph County Humane Society the public usually does not see, after former employees told us that was the only way we would get a true feel for the state of the Humane Society.

They say the director's opposition to euthanasia is what causes the overpopulation problem.

The facility has a no-kill policy for adoptable animals, and makes a point to only put them down if they are suffering.

The director says even if that is why there are so many animals, it is an approach she stands by.

We contacted the Humane Society for a visit last week, but earlier that morning, we sent a hidden camera through one last time.

Again, we saw animals living in close quarters, including a stack of carrier cases with cats inside with food, water, and litter boxes. Former employees told us the animals may live in them for days, even weeks.

Another area humane society director said that was unacceptable.

“This is somebody who has trouble with euthanasia issues,” said Gail Marsh, the Director of the Michiana Humane Society in LaPorte County, as she referenced an image shot by our hidden camera.

“You know if you can't find homes for these animals, it’s OK to put them down, but don’t make them live like this, it's not OK,” Marsh said.

Dr. Carol Ecker, a retired veterinarian with more than 40 years of experience in Michiana, works without pay as the director of the St. Joseph County facility.

Dr. Ecker was more open than her former employees had anticipated; they told us we would need to go in undercover

“Some of these animals have been here two years,” Dr. Ecker said, as she showed us through the adoption area.

She took us through the entire facility, including the quarantine area; and even she was vocal about how bad it was.

“To the person who comes in here and thinks 'my God,' I can imagine this is not something they think is right. But you know, the other alternative is euthanasia, and I’m not willing to do that,” Dr. Ecker said.

When asked if she thought “it was right,” Dr. Ecker said, “No. I mean, it's not right for the public to dump these many animals on us, no I don't think that's right.”

Dr. Ecker was quick to point out the poor condition of the nearly 70-year-old building, and the need for a new one.

“You can see this is just a horrible situation, but the animals are fed and cared for regardless of the fact that it's an old building. That’s what people don’t understand,” Dr. Ecker said.

Most of the areas were similar to what we had seen earlier in the day, except the treatment room, with the stacked carrier cases.

Dr. Ecker may have forgotten she was wearing a microphone, when whispering to her employees in the corner of the treatment room, as we followed her from the previous room.

"Where'd you put the cats?" she asked, in a hushed voice we did not hear in person, that sounded like it came out of the corner of her mouth. She then continued on with the tour.

The stacked carriers, that had been in the room on all three of our previous visits, were gone.

To recap: that same morning of May 13th, our hidden camera captured carriers stacked up against the wall in the room; and about six hours later, on our guided tour, they were nowhere to be seen.

Two days later, we sent a hidden camera through again, at the same time of day as our afternoon visit on the 13th, and the carriers were back in place.

When asked about stacked carriers in the building, before she knew we sent hidden cameras through the facility; Dr. Ecker told us they were only used temporarily at the beginning of the day to check animals in, and that cats may stay in them for as long as a day.

Dr. Ecker says they are housing almost 500 animals, and the building is only made for about 300.

She says that does mean a lot of extra work for employees, which can be tiring, but says the former employees who spoke out were probably not part of the team.

“I think we've had people that left here that were lazy, that didn't want to work. I can tell you that. The staff that works here now work their fannies off,” Dr. Ecker said.

Even with an overpopulation problem, Dr. Ecker says she will not change her approach, and says her staff and board of directors stand behind her on that.

“I agree we have too many animals here. I'd be the first one to agree, but I’m not willing to euthanize these animals just because there are too many… I bring it back to the staff every once and a while and say what is it you want? It’s your choice. I mean we can lighten your burden and euthanize or we can treat these animals,” Dr. Ecker said.

“I think it's the best approach out there. We all decided as a group we were going to save everything that we absolutely could. Instead of putting down adoptable animals, we're gonna house them and work the extra hours to make it work,” said Melissa Bishop, an employee at the Humane Society who has worked there for nearly two years.

Other area humane societies choose to use euthanasia as a form of population control.

“I believe that every humane society would like to reach the point of being a no-kill facility. But until our communities are all working together, all the components, that’s not possible,” Michiana Humane Society Director Gail Marsh said.

Dr. Ecker says the point of community cooperation is vital.

“It's not just our problem, it's society’s problem; and once people get that in their head that they’re part of the problem, then they can be part of the solution… Right now it's not good, I mean living in a small carrier is not a good thing, living in a cage is not a good thing, but at least they're not dead,” Dr. Ecker said.

Dr. Ecker says public education on animal care could prevent the overpopulation problems from the beginning.

She says spaying and neutering are major solutions.

She says the community can help on the other end as well, by adopting more animals or donating to the Humane Society to help pay for a new facility.

They have had plans to build a larger facility for years now, and Ecker says they have 2 million dollars in the fund, but still need a lot more.

Ecker says the new facility would be able to hold around 500 animals, as compared to the 300 the current facility supports.

The St. Joseph County Humane Society receives funds from the city of Mishawaka and St. Joseph County for animal control services, but Dr. Ecker says they operate mostly on donations from the community.

Humane societies are typically independent entities, so organizations like the Humane Society of the United States have little or no structural control over the local agencies.

The St. Joseph County facility is managed by a board of directors.

Here is a list of the working board, provided by Dr. Ecker:

Carol Ecker DVM, President
Professor Michelle Whaley, PhD, Vice President
Nancy Deneen, Treasurer
Cindy Miller, Secretary
Kurt Metros
Jackie Zeyon
Cindy Switalski
Ellen Schott
Gill Laware
Angie Zajac

Dr. Ecker asks contact to the board members be through mail addressed to the shelter, marked personal.

The shelter’s address is: 2506 Grape Road, Mishawaka, IN 46545

Phone: 574-255-4726

Email: info@humanesocietystjc.org


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Posted by: Jay Location: Granger on Jul 2, 2008 at 01:38 PM
Sound Familiar:Aniaml Hoarding as defined by Humane Society of the United States: Hoarding describes the situations in which individuals have unusually large numbers of animals and cannot provide minimal standards of care.In nearly all cases animals are found dead or in extremely poor health. Hoarders often deny that they cannot care for these animals and do not acknowledge the impact of their actions on the animals or human members of the household. The behavior has serious health implications, including the spread of zoonotic diseases. many, if not most hoarding cases involve high levels of environmental ammonia. Public health hazards, combined with animal welfare issues can escalate a hoarding case into a disaster.

Posted by: Sad Shame. on Jun 2, 2008 at 03:02 PM
I agree, the shelter was nowhere close to being in this condition just over two years ago. The place is now full to the brim with animals, full of disease and under different management!! The shelter is now a place of doom for animals, rather than a safe haven, the risk of an animal contracting an illness in there is extremley HIGH!! This has to pose a health risk to those who have to work there. can you imagine your dog in there? I don't want my dogs anywhere near that place. I've seen puppymills in much better condition.

Posted by: Chris Location: Mishawaka on Jun 2, 2008 at 01:41 PM
They are not doing the best they can!!! If neglecting animals is the best they can do, then they need to get a new staff. That shelter did not look like that a couple of years ago. They have more resources now then they did then and the shelter is a dump. Go check out any other shelter and you will not see animals stacked in carriers. This is just sick!!!

Posted by: Brianna Location: South Bend on Jun 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM
If you took care of your animals then they wouldnt be stuck in cages.so before for you buy a dog think of your responsibilities there doing the best they can

Posted by: Jake Location: Mishawaka on Jun 1, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Iknew as soon as I posted about Tucker the picture would be taken down. I could specifically sight other pictures also but I don't want them taken off. I'm sick of them hiding stuff. Guess what I have all those pictures saved.

Posted by: lee Location: mishawaka on May 31, 2008 at 03:48 PM
why is there so many bad thinks in the news in the last week is there any good think to report on like the poeple that these good things .

Posted by: L. Location: Granger on May 31, 2008 at 02:18 PM
My daughter worked there as community service for a speeding ticket. She really wanted to work/volunteer there. Carol treated her like she was a criminal, made her pick up cigarette butts with bare hands. I ended up getting goggles and gloves for her myself because she got the worst jobs to do. Yes, they do euthanize, my daughter came home sick from the smell from what she called the "burner." And the first thing they said to me when I dropped off her paperwork and before she had worked a day was they we weren't allowed to adopt. I've adopted many cats and dogs over the last 20 years and never heard of a restriction because my daughter was doing community service there. I heard years ago about a new building and was surprised to see nothing has been built yet.

Posted by: r and s Location: Mishawaka on May 31, 2008 at 11:44 AM
I saw the dog named Tucker on the HS website, and shortly after the posting it was taken down. They're trying to hide things again, but now that I said that someone will try to say the dog got adopted and was taken off of the website. Well I know that is not the case, they are trying to cover up again. The pics on the website do not get updated within one day!

Posted by: To Jake on May 29, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Ok, I saw the blood, great cleaning job huh? I worked there and never once did I see anyone clean like they showed Ryan. When they started scrubbing the kennel walls I couldn't help but laugh. And when did this "dip you shovel in a bucket of bleach" start? What happened to "lets just refill the food and water dishes" for the cats because we have a million of them and I just find it impossible to get them all done in one day? I also saw there was NO feces in the kennel drains left to sit all day?? WOW!! What an education. Why did staff take the animals home? Is it because they didn't want to house them in small carriers in front of Ryan? What happened to the animals in carriers from the undecover footage? And, what happened to all the endless clutter of boxes, newspapers and everything else that was present in the footage? The shelter has been cleaned out that's why. And, where was Ecker? I guess her employees had to try and redeem the conditions on camera for her huh? SMART MOVE. Not!!

Posted by: Jake Location: Mishawaka on May 29, 2008 at 01:25 PM
To Diane: While your looking at the photos check out the dog named Tucker and the blood in his cage.

Posted by: cat lover Location: south bend on May 29, 2008 at 09:54 AM
We just adopted a cat from someones litter off the road because adopting from the shelter is like pulling teeth from a newborn....DOESN'T HAPPEN!!!!! Shelter needs to get a clue if it wants to find homes for it's animals!!!!!!

Posted by: alison on May 28, 2008 at 10:53 PM
To Diane: The humane society's web address is www.loveananimal.org. Go to the adoptions tab and you choose to look at either the cats or dogs up for adoption. I am a volunteer, and I update the website every two weeks at least. I am sure to post every animal in adoption which includes about 150 animals. If I didn't do this, a shelter employee would! I just do what I can to help out. NOW HERES AND IDEA FOR EVERYONE POSTING HATEFUL COMMENTS. See what you can do to volunteer and make a difference! It is very easy to do. Training only takes a couple of hours. Then you can walk dogs, pet cats, play with animals, learn to be an adoption assistant...the list goes on and on! You can also help with adoption events...we have them almost every weekend. (Despite what some people have said.) JUST IMAGINE the difference you would make if you were to help out instead of having a grand old time talking trash.

Posted by: Bob, no Joe, no Tom, no Bill Location: Reality, IN on May 28, 2008 at 10:26 PM
You tell her Jason!!! This is about lynching Carol Ecker and making the ST JOSEPH County Humane Society look bad, NOT the ELKHART County Humane Society. Get with the program!!!! Don't you love the way WNDU lets us make up lies and smear peoples reputation anonymously. Don't you love the way the 300 replies make it look like EVERYONE cares, when it's just the 25 of us posting over and over and over again under different names. Oh, and I'm soooo excited that the 1st is almost here so I can get my next unemployment check to pay for my internet connection so I can stay home and keep anonymously yet publicly smearing the stupid employees at the SJC Humane Society who are actually willing to work hard instead of staying at home and whining to other people just like you and me who have no life. Oh, and now that Ryan's actually worked at the shelter and seen how hard it really is we need to all jump over to that story and start making up more lies. Hurry, hurry, hurry everyone!!!!!

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 28, 2008 at 04:55 PM
WNDU, why'd you erase some comments? I was on this site earlier today and there were well over 500 comments between the part 1 and part 2 of this story. HHHHHHhhhhhMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Jason Location: Mishawaka on May 28, 2008 at 03:17 PM
To Melissa, Why are you talking about Elkhart. This article is about St. Joe County and Carol Ecker. Stay on topic or get shut up.

Posted by: Melissa Location: Goshen on May 28, 2008 at 07:41 AM
My dogs were picked up by Elkhart Co. it cost me $100 to get them out of "jail". That's after I called the shelter to see if they were there as someone let them out of my fenced in yard. Upon arriving at the shelter to go thru their "inventory" I asked where they picked my dogs up at and if there was a complaint, they told me the street name and no a complaint was not filed. So I asked what did I call my dogs in as missing and you go out and look or them, oh no we don't do that, yeah so it was just luck you were in the area whatever especially since they were in someones yard being brushed when captured. The condition at Elkhart Co. upon arrival was 2 80lb. dogs in an outdoor kenel no food nor water, feces everwhere. If they need $$ that bad why not try a fundraiser or something of that nature not going out to look for lost pets and charging a fourtune to get them back.

Posted by: Laura Location: Mishawaka on May 28, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Dr. Ecker request that you contact via the above email because it is her e-mail and she see all comments before they are passed on or read by the other board members. Dr. Ecker doesn't get paid? Then lets find someone to replace her. I have visited the humane society and I have knowen many people who have worked there. I also remember Dr. Ecker as a vet via friends in 4-H. I wouldn't let her work on or for a stuffed animal let alone a scared and lost family pets.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 27, 2008 at 08:13 PM
here is alot of the problem with this whol;e story you have people wanting animals cause they are cute but the first time the tear something up or urinate or deficate on something they dont want them any more then they end up at the humane society.I am not agreeing with The humane society in they way these animals are being taken care of here are some solutions they should look at start only issuing a set numer of breeder liscences and fine the one who are breeding without then the humane sciety could lower their adoption prices they may have better luck getting these helpless animals loving homes and the over crowding in the shelter may subside some to a managable state again.AND PEOPLE JUST CAUSE THEY ARE CUTE THEY ARE STILL ALOT OF WORK SO THINK BEFORE YOU GET A ANIMAL CAN YOU HANDLE TAKING CARE OF IT SO THEY DONT END UP HOMELESS AND IN THE SHELTER

Posted by: to Animal Lover Location: mishawaka on May 27, 2008 at 05:07 PM
Well, since the world is overpopulated also, then maybe we should take you and lock you up in cage and force you to live in your own urine and feces for the rest of your life.

Posted by: ANIMAL LOVER Location: MISHAWAKA on May 27, 2008 at 04:30 PM
"The facility has a no-kill policy for adoptable animals, and makes a point to only put them down if they are suffering." Animals shouldn't be euthanized just because of population problems. The world has population problems also, does that mean we should euthanize people too? Maybe they should start with stupid people first.Animals live and breathe just as we do, and they have just as much right on earth as we do. God put them here TOO! The Human Society has a population problem, because people have a responsibility problem, and that is why the animals end up there to begin with. THINK PEOPLE!!!!

Posted by: ROGER Location: GRANGER on May 27, 2008 at 03:25 PM
http://www.habitat4pets.com/ Please people check out my website and see what I'am trying to do for these animals, and all the animals all over the United States. http://www.habitat4pets.com/ ROGER

Posted by: Another Tammy Location: South Bend on May 27, 2008 at 07:56 AM
I have worked for Carol, too. She is passionate alright, but NOT about the animals. Try MONEY and prestige. Dr. Ecker is NOT TRYING to do the "right" thing. She is hoarding money and animals. That certainly is not the "right thing", it is the "Ecker thing."

Posted by: Mitch Location: Mishawaka on May 26, 2008 at 09:41 PM
Becky, we do not have any public funded hospitals in this area. They are all privately held. The only way the animal shelter gets any tax dollars is that they also host the services of animal control..which the are not controlling, just stacking. Cities do not normally fund such facilities and they are almost all privately ran on donations.

Posted by: Get a Clue Location: Mishawaka on May 26, 2008 at 07:14 PM
All I have to say to anyone coming to the defense of Dr. Ecker is GET A CLUE. She will be your friend and confident until she has no more use for you. She has done it time and time again and will do it to you. If you can't give her something or do something for you, she will discard you like a piece of trash. Unfortunately it will take her threatening you for you to finally understand.

Posted by: Diane Location: South Bend In on May 26, 2008 at 04:41 PM
such a shame I just checked Petfinders.com if there are so many cats and kittens and they are being saved none are listed what a life is this for a poor animal I hve two abuse dogs and no animal needs to be treated like this start posting these poor animals no life to live in a cage where they can not turn around them post them or do something to help them

Posted by: Halo Location: South Bend on May 26, 2008 at 03:55 PM
It was reported that the humane society is a no kill shelter, I'm sorry but that is just not the case. I've witnessed them killing animals first hand. They even killed one of mine and attempted to kill a second. They try to adopt out as many as possible but have a holding time and then euthanize the animals who do not find homes, they also donate some to science. Great organization and I agree they're doing the best they can with the little funds they receive and what room they do have. It's a sad situation for all.

Posted by: To Tammy on May 26, 2008 at 02:37 PM
Ok, let me put myself in Eckers shoes for a minute. 1. I would start building the new shelter, it's a Humane Society, it's a home for unwanted/homeless animals, this is what is needed, NOT a state of the art medical facility. She has the money to do this but, oh no, she wants her clinic too. It IS the RESPONSIBILITY of the shelter to house animals humanely or euthenize them. She hates working with rescues, she doesn't think they're good enough?? If you call cramming cats into a small carriers (taking care of the animals) Enough said. To the person who says ex employees need to UNITE, oh, we have done! And when push comes to shove, We're talking. To whoever mentioned "Class action lawsuit" yes you're right, I'd like to see ex employees time cards pulled, lets just see how lazy there were, I think you'll find they were far from lazy. Lets see all those write-ups for lazy employees. I think you'll find there isn't any. Ask the Labor board, they've been involved with what goes on at SJCHS

Posted by: Tammy Location: South Bend on May 26, 2008 at 12:07 PM
This is to all of you people who have commented! I have worked for Dr. Carol. She was a very passionate person. Do you have any idea how hard it is to keep up on animal that peolpe get rid of? No. you don't. She is trying to do the right thing by taking care of the animals. Would you like a member of the family euthanized because there was too many? The fact remains that yes the building is old and the facility need to be moved but she is trying to do the right thing. You all have to put yourself in her shoes and think what would you do? It's easy to sit back and comment but is it as easy to do something about it?

Posted by: Cat Mom on May 25, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Good for you Mary. I know someone who moved to New Carlisle as well to have all of their pets with them without any hassle. I also know several people who live in St. Joe county with way more that 3 animals, no problem. It is a stupid control ordinance for people who take care of their pets! For those who don't, 1 or 5 animals, it doesn't matter, that is a different story.

Posted by: mary Location: not in st joe on May 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM
I moved from the state after the 3 animal rule passed..my pets are my family..

Posted by: Hoarding Location: Mishawaka on May 25, 2008 at 07:46 PM
Hoarding is a disease-look it up!! If we build a new shelter and leave Ecker in place, nothing wiil change. A shelter built for 500 will result in the hoarding of 1000!!! The answer is getting rid of that woman. Then go ahead with the plans for a new shelter. The money is there. It is just not enough to fund the state of the art vet clinic that Ecker wants to put in it.

Posted by: FORMER friend Location: South Bend on May 25, 2008 at 07:36 PM
Those who have known Dr Carol Ecker for years know she is being portrayed exactly as she is. But as for the board, what is the matter with you? Lack of backbone or fear? Another case of total corruption. I guess it is true, the love of money is the root of all evil. Carol, if there is justice, you will rot in Hell.

Posted by: Diane Location: South Bend Ind on May 25, 2008 at 06:52 PM
I have two rescue dogs that were badly abused and the poor cats here are just as being abused no where to move with the food, and litter in their cage what is this world coming too advertise this more on petfinders.com lower the price for them, what is happening to the money that you have for a new place should this not been made for these poor animals in the small cages how can anyone feel sorry for a new place when there is so many millions already for a new place and these animals live like this???

Posted by: Tina Location: Mishawaka on May 25, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Actually, Ecker lost South Bend. Former South Bend Joe Kernan had the Animal Control of South Bend take over (or started, whatever) because she was incompetent. Dr. Ecker is very, very bitter about that and still bad-mouths him when ever she can. She does have St. Joe county and is trying to control everything-the amount of dogs a person owns, licencing through the humane shelter and even labeling certain breeds "dangerous", all for control. And don't forget the micro-chipping with Avid (she invested in) instead of the Vet preferred HomeAgain. If you've ever seen her micro-chip, you'd never have your pet done by Ecker. She was not even a adequate vet at Clayview (from experience. But we know all this. She doesn't need the money-the animals do. We have to put pressure on Mayor Rea and the Board of Public Works and Safety of Mishawaka. We are the ones with dignity, compassion and class. Let's get to work.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Indiana on May 25, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Joe,I agree we need to start a citizen action committee and Lisa,yes people need to band together and make their own change happen. What should we do? How about someone donate the use of a large clean building for a while and then all the concerned citizens make a midnite raid on the shelter and remove all those animals to the donated building and get several vets to check them out and euthanize the sick ones and sort them out and place them in a large open area so they are no longer in small cages.People could sign up to care for and feed these animals until homes are found.The word could be put out for no one to bring animals to that shelter anymore.

Posted by: Animal Lover Location: Planet Earth on May 25, 2008 at 04:29 PM
I used to volunteer there when I was a young teen, back in the early 80's. The last time I was in there was about 6 months ago looking for a pet for my mother-in-law. I swear the place looks the same way it did over 25 years ago, except in WAY worse condition! I could also see the overcrowding problem, it was evident to me even without seeing the "treatment room". I walked out of there in tears because the conditions there for those poor animals just broke my heart. They would NOT let me adopt a dog from ther because her chain link fence in the backyard was not high enough. It is at least 4 feet tall and it was a small dog, I don't get it at all! she had a Golden Retriever for 13 years with no problems with the fence issue. We adopted from Pet Refuge without any trouble. The humane society seems very corrupt to me. I would really like to have a chance to hear Carol Ecker speak to the public so we can ask her some pointed questions! What do you think Ms. Ecker? Will you step up for this?

Posted by: Beck Location: S.B. on May 25, 2008 at 02:49 PM
Mitch, thanks for setting me straight on who's door should be beat on- Hey, St. Joe County commissioners,get to work on getting the new humane society built! It's still an emergency.(Sorry,city of Mishawaka.)

Posted by: Becky Location: SB on May 25, 2008 at 01:20 PM
I admit I don't know all the facts pertaining to this humane society situation, but I find it unbelievable that the 22 years that I was living out of South Bend, the humane society is still struggling to survive.

Posted by: Becky Location: S.B. on May 25, 2008 at 01:14 PM
From 1982, when I moved out of state, to 2004 when I moved back, I was shocked to see that the Humane Society was still in deplorable shape. I was told, when I put in an application( 2005) , that a new building was in the works. Great, I thought. Then the more I learned about their situation, I knew it was going to be a drug out affair. I don't know the whole $$$ and politics thing, regarding the humane society, but dang!, it is a NECESSARY facility! Just like a hospital,(people or veterinary), a retirement home, you get the picture? If the money can be found for the "beautification' projects around this town(Mish. or SB) then why not for a new Humane Society? And as far as relying on donations-have you seen the price of gas lately?!

Posted by: Mitch Location: Mishawaka on May 25, 2008 at 01:07 PM
This is not just a city of Mishwaka issue...it is a county wide shelter. Start beating on the doors of the county Commissioners and tell them to get to work.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM
if you take surface samples in dog park they may come out clean. I can bet they have dug down and replaced soil for the time being. I am sure there is a way to take a good honest sample. especially armed with the information they may have replaced areas of soil knowing a sample will soon be taken.

Posted by: Ex Resident Location: The World on May 25, 2008 at 03:24 AM
I left an unadoptable cat there almost 2 yrs ago and now I am afraid, it's still alive living in it's carrier. God Help that Woman. I hope she put that cat down. I can't come to check either.

Posted by: Becky Location: S.B. on May 24, 2008 at 09:47 PM
Hey, St. Joe County and City of Mishawaka, get to work on getting the new Humane Society built! It is an emergency.

Posted by: anonymous Location: mishawaka on May 24, 2008 at 08:10 PM
Humane Society? hardly! The conditions that these animals are living in are NOT humane! Like they said, if someone were caught with cats in their garage like this, they would take the cats from them AND press charges! Charges for what, cruelty to animals, neglect, you name it. Why is is that this funded facility can get away with it? It's really not fair to the animals. How can someone stand there and say they just can't euthanize? It sounds to me like it's more of a personal problem. There is nothing wrong with euthanasia is situations such as this one. I sure wouldn't want to live in a 5X6 room, because that would be the equivilant to what these cats are living in. They call them carriers for a reason! I wish people wouldn't be so selfish. Yes I understand the ignorance of some pet owners, not realizing the cost of a pet, and not spaying/neutering. I see this everyday, I work at a vet! We get blamed for "letting their pet suffer" when THE OWNER can't afford treatment! Not our fault.

Posted by: catherine Location: mishawaka on May 24, 2008 at 07:41 PM
I wonder if Dr. Ecker has a living will. How long would she want machines keeping her alive and in pain before someone gives her peace? Better yet, what would she want for her loved ones?

Posted by: to dog park member Location: mishawaka on May 24, 2008 at 06:26 PM
That sewage problem your referring to was in fact the sludge comprised of animal parts and hazardous chemicals, caustic soda and potash flake to be exact. (go ahead and look that up) Dr. Ecker is a genious at lying and covering things up. The problem arises from the Agrilzer. A body rendering machine used to liquify dead animals. The company that makes it(wr2) shut down because their machines continuously broke down. One machine actually exploded. The piping to the machine is not meant to handle the intense heat thus causing the piping to melt, ultimately resulting in the "sewage" as you refer to it. Go ahead continue taking your dog to the dog park. I hope your dog always returns from the dog park.

Posted by: To Dog Park Member on May 24, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I guess if you don't mind your dog rolling around, ingesting and sniffing in hazzardous chemicals, the dog park would be a great place to take your pet!! However, most of us do care about what our pets are getting into. Yes, I did notice they've covered the area in bushes, trees and mulch... Again, SJCHS hiding the ugly side to their business, fooling the community.

Posted by: Mom Location: Mishawaka on May 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Sam, you are clueless and appearently a little strange. Some of us are trying to accomplish something here for the good of the animals. These animals don't have time for us to be politically correct and nice about it, sorry honey if you are offended.

Posted by: TO SAM on May 24, 2008 at 11:13 AM
YOU POSTED A COMMENT ON MAY 23 AT AROUND 9:50 PM. DO YOU REALIZE YOU JUST DID THE SAME DARN THING YOU CLAIM EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING. I DID NOT HEARD YOU OFFER A SOLUTION TO ANYHING. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO DO. I PERSONALLY HAVE TRIED TO VOLUNTEER SEVERAL TIMES, I HAVE DONATED ITEMS NOT MONEY-SINGLE MOTHER, I HAVE TRIED TO ADOPT. OTHER THEN GETTING SOMEONE IN THERE WITH A HEART. SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO DO MORE FUND RAISING TO HELP FOR THE ANIMALS NOT THEIR PERSONAL POCKET BOOK. WHY CAN'T THEY USE THE "2 MILLION" TO ADD ON TO THE BUILDING? INSTEAD OF THE DOG PARK MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE ADD ON TO THE BUILDING. THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE FOR YEARS IF YOU HAVE READ THE OTHER POSTS. ANOTHER POINT FROM ANOTHER POST- WHERE IS ALL THE BEDDDING THAT HAS BEEN DONATED-WOULD YOU LIKE TO SLEEP ON THAT FLOOR.

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Posted by: Pet Lover Location: Porter/LaPorte Co on May 24, 2008 at 09:18 AM
For people who won't get their cats spayed/neutered because of the cost, there is a wonderful resource out there that you should take advantage of: The Neuter Scooter http://www.neuterscooter.com If you schedule an appt online, it is $40 to get your cat spayed/neutered and this includes shots! For dog owners who need their dog spayed/neutered, please call your vet and ask if they will set up a payment plan to make it more affordable. Remember, it usually costs less the smaller the dog... so get your puppy fixed as young (small) as possible and that will save you money in the long run. PLEASE don't breed or buy while homeless die... find your next pet at a shelter or rescue group. http://www.petfinder.com

Posted by: Dog Park Member Location: South Bend on May 24, 2008 at 09:15 AM
To "What the ***?" When the dog park first opened, there appeared to be a sewage issue in an area of the park. This may be irrelevant, but I would like to point out that there is a wonderful dog park next to the Humane Shelter. Anyone who adopted a dog from the shelter may join for free; otherwise, dog owners can pay $30 (I think) per year for a membership. There are some restrictions on breeds allowed into the park. If you have a socialized dog, you may want to check out the park.

Posted by: Tax Payer Location: Indiana on May 24, 2008 at 08:03 AM
I've been reading these comments for several days. The ones fighting for justice-don't give up. Politicians-wise up. Dr. Ecker, Nancy Deneen and the rest of the board members- do not consider yourselves animal lovers, consider yourselves criminals subjected to the legal system and to a higher power. Just because you are rich doesn't mean can get away with things forever. The hate you feel toward those who seek justice can manifest in many ways. Look that up Dr. Ecker. You know what I mean.

Posted by: Skeptic Location: South Bend/Mishwaka on May 24, 2008 at 07:48 AM
I posted this statement on the other part, too. I'm going to post it here because I'm sure Dr. Ecker has already started her strong-armed revenge. Do you really think you can stop her. If they kick her out she'll still have clout on the board. The board members are a spineless bunch of crooks with money. Do you have money to fight Ecker? Did you see the mayor on TV today? He's not going to do anything without pressure from the public. She a strong republican-that will be another pressure she can apply. They are going to wait until this all dies down (like all the times before), then it will be the same old same old. I've talked to some friends in NY they will cover things if the public makes enough noise to make it worthwhile (then everyone will probably jump on the bandwagon). Now I guess it is up to you, John Q. Public, not the "lazy, disgruntled ex-employees" or even WNDU. True animal lovers might be able to make a difference. I'm waiting to see how serious you guys really are.

Posted by: Dayna Location: Bremen on May 24, 2008 at 01:40 AM
The tip of the iceberg is not proper care for the animals. The bulk of the iceberg is poor management. Many shelters have the same problems. You have employees who work from the heart and others that are slackers/skaters and management is blind. The tax dollars lost to bad employees, supplies, food stuffs, equipment and drugs coming up missing from shelters is appalling. Management needs to pay attention and cull the bad and fix the thievery. Then the animals will have a quality of life in the shelters until adopted. All one has to do is volunteer one week at a local shelter and you will see all is true.

Posted by: What the ***? Location: Mishawaka on May 24, 2008 at 12:29 AM
I keep hearing that the dog park has animal remains backing up from the agrilyzer, along with hazardous chemicals. Has anyone noticed that the spot in the dog park always had benches turned over on it, and now has new bushes and mulch planted there. I think someone needs to take a ground sample for testing.

Posted by: tami Location: plymouth on May 24, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Seems to me that the cost of housing all the extra animals would put the cost of a new shelter that much closer.... if the Dr was able to see past her own personal views.

Posted by: R U Kidding Me??? Location: South Bend on May 23, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I CANNOT believe the gall of the residents of ST Joseph County!Spending hours and hours supporting a smear campaign when they could be doing something productive with their time..volunteering,doing fund raisers, raising awareness to families on the responsibilities of pet ownership.The solution IS NOT as simple as "FIRE HER" Where was WNDU at the annual adopt-a-thon? Was that not "dirty" enough for them?Better yet...where were all of you?? How many of YOU came?You all LOVE animal sooo much and can criticize EVERYONE for EVERYTHING...but the TRUTH is...EVERYONE with an non-spayed/non-neutered animal IS the problem. EVERYONE that aquires a pet without the proper planning or forsight to know that it IS going to cost MONEY to properly care for that animal IS the problem. Its EASIER to point the finger at the same place that you go to dump your unwanted pets.How many of YOU have had "life circumstances" that didnt ALLOW you to keep your pet?Were you screaming about the injustice then??

Posted by: To Ron on May 23, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Yes, it's possible, but the gestation period for illnesses like Parvo can be up to 3 weeks. So, it is just as likely that that person's dog got sick at the shelter. Please don't be surprised to find some kind of illness from any animal that has been in high populations (shelters or otherwise). Kennel cough in dogs or URI's in cats are typical even in the best of facilities, especially those without proper airflow. Most people expect this and are willing to put a little effort into nursing them back to top health. The higher the numbers go, the worse these kind of occurences will be and then when really bad things like Parvo hit, it can knock out an entire shelter. As someone mentioned earlier, throwing new intakes into carriers with other cats would more often than not provide a death sentence for both. They must create space for quarantining new animals. Sometimes you just have to use your head over your heart and choose what will have the best possible outcome for all.

Posted by: Sam Location: mishawka on May 23, 2008 at 09:52 PM
I cannot believe how so many can write and yet say absolutly nothing. The only thing that so many of you have shown here is just how ill-informed you are, how uneducated you are and how much hate you have in you. If only people could learn to channel this negetive energy into saying something constuctive or offer a solution. I thank God that my parents raised me as a gentleman. I was taught to make sure I know both sides of the story before judging. To make sure that when I spoke I had something constuctive to say. I am ashamed of most of you here and hope that some day soon you will grow up and become ladies and gentlman who can speak and write with intelligence and not with the serpent tongue that seems to be all over this blog.

Posted by: Julie Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 09:46 PM
I believe that Ryan has placed these board of directors at harms way. These people are hard workers and the nicest people you could meet, they have the interest of the animals at heart! However, because of your careless reporting they have been threatened and verbally abused by the public, that are very ignorant to the situation. Shame on you Channel 16, for being so irresponsible!!!! I use to watch your channel faithfully, but not anymore!!!!!

Posted by: Holiday Weekend on May 23, 2008 at 09:29 PM
Just a friendly reminder that it is another holiday weekend. For those who don't know, that means an extra day to dump animals at shelters and the intake numbers are often much higher than normal. If you are looking for a new lifetime companion, do go visit your local shelter. If you don't want to go into one of these facilities, call your local pet friendly stores like PetsMart, Paw Mart, and Canine Crazy who have regular adoption events on weekends or check out the big adoption activity at the Farmers Market in Elkhart this Saturday. There should be lots of animals in need of loving forever homes at most of these locations. It won't solve the issues previously discussed, but it will mean the world to that one animal. Many shelter and rescue folks at these types of events can also point you in the direction of nearby spay/neuter help if you need it. When you are remembering loved ones this weekend, please also include all the innocent victims of the pet overpopulation problem.

Posted by: another past employee Location: mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 09:05 PM
I know for a fact some really bad stuff thats been happening there, and I'm so glad I don't work there anymore. 1) Dr. E lost her vet license at one point for using HORSE TRANQUILIZERS with her HUSBAND. 2) she has put down animals the DAY THEY CAME IN (although they have a policy to hold them for a few days) because she wanted to. The owner came in HOURS later looking, and it was already put down. 3) She has sent animals home with PARVOVIRUS! 4) She's hit employees and called them stupid in FRONT OF CUSTOMERS AND OTHER EMPLOYEES. -----why is she still the director? BECAUSE SHE SCARES EVERYONE!--------

Posted by: Mike on May 23, 2008 at 07:44 PM
I think Laura (May 22, 2008 at 12:34 AM) makes an excellent point. Should we euthanize them? I think there are strong arguments for putting them out of their misery, saving valuable resources and whichnot.

Posted by: Val Location: Elkhart on May 23, 2008 at 07:42 PM
One thing I don't see addressed in the responses here is the expense and stringent requirements to adopt through the Humane Society. After you complete their 4 page application, swear on your own life that you will never let you new cat outside, take it to the vet within three days, have it nuetered and vaccinated, plus pay $150 to adopt, PLUS vet fees, I don't really see the incentive to adopt through the Humane Society. You can answer any one of the dozen ads a day in the paper for "free kittens" and avoid the major hassle and expense required by the Human Society. And the Humane Society wonders why they are overpopulated with cats? Give me a break! Their cats would be better off as barn cats on a farm than stuck in carriers!! My cats don't go outside, but I see perfectly happy cats running around my neighborhood that have homes and are very well taken care of. Yes, I adopted a purebred cat from the Humane Society, but considering the cost, the next one will come from a breeder.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 23, 2008 at 07:25 PM
Yea alot of us know whats going on more then the public because we use to work there and know that for years then needed a million but now they need more.how is that when they were not going to spend that money.They had money to keep the shelter going and still only need a million.but even for that place it dont take 10 years to get a millon plus.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 23, 2008 at 07:20 PM
I think that the stupid 3 limit rule should be gone.

Posted by: a quick thought Location: mish. on May 23, 2008 at 06:59 PM
If you have been in the HS and have donated bedding there, where is it? I was just in there last week and honestly I do not remember bedding in any of the cages. in fact it looked so much cleaner on TV then it did when I was there.

Posted by: To Lew of laporte on May 23, 2008 at 04:34 PM
Can you elaborate on the doctoring of horses if they let her in on the deal please? I've heard this before about her but never really paid much attention to it in the past, but over the last few years I've gotten to know her a little better and this would not surprise me in the least to be true.

Posted by: Ron Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 04:23 PM
To Concerned in Mishawaka. you say you got a puppy on Sat. took it to the vet on monday and got a clean bill of health. by thursday it was sick...and of course, it was the HS fault. uhhhh....maybe you pet picked up the virus at the vet...it's happened before.

Posted by: To Joe on May 23, 2008 at 03:56 PM
The board members are legally liable for the operation of the shelter. This is why it is a severe conflict of interest for the board president to also be the executive director. Not to mention that this board president makes a living treating animals, another conflict of interest.

Posted by: TO Anonymous Location: SB on May 23 Location: Granger on May 23, 2008 at 03:22 PM
I will never donate another cent to this facility until I am sure the money is being used for the animals. Upon reading these comments there leaves a few unanswered questions. 1. People say the ex employees are just bitter and disruntled, but yet, they have been proven to be telling the truth and they do have legitimate grounds for concern. 2. It's been suggested that there's a big mismanagement of the money at SJCHS, they have been dancing around the notion that the president of the board and director is using it as her own personal money. I'm sorry but everything else the ex employees have brought to light happens to have been true. I'm not prepared to take the risk of giving them another cent of my hard earned cash if it isn't being distributed accordingly. I will donate food and bedding, and I advise that other donors do the same until all this uncertainty has been cleared up.

Posted by: Stephanie Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 01:45 PM
I am as outraged at the conditions as everyone else but let's do something about it!! There's enough of us animal lovers out there! 1. Are you or do you know anyone who is thinking of getting a pet? Encourage them to be certain of their decision and visit the shelter to adopt. 2. Donate items: blankets, cages, newspapers, food, TIME, etc. 3. Know someone with a troubled pet? Offer to help out with training so the animal does not have to end up at the shelter. 4. Is it possible for the shelter to temporarily lower their adoption fees in order to clear out some animals? 5. Who does Carol Ecker and the board report to? Contact them! 6. SPAY AND NEUTER your pets and tell everyone you know to also.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: SB on May 23, 2008 at 01:19 PM
All you who want to condem,put your money where your mouth is . . . the HS is trying to raise money to build a new shelter. They have land but need money to build. Why not help out that way. It's sad that you all condem without knowing what is going on -- try volunerring sometime, I take my three children to help they love helping. They would rather do that than go to a movie on the weekends. Maybe if everyone would fix their animals there wouldn't be such a problem. Thank you Dr. Ecker for donating all your time, services to care for animals. I am truly grateful for the 2 dogs I adopted from there.

Posted by: Former Employee Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 01:17 PM
To Britt: Nancy has an office at the shelter. She is just as guilty as the rest because she know EXACTLY what is going on..

Posted by: Ginger Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM
You want to know what to do? Contact the mayor, dateline, nbc news, ellen, oprah and anyone else you can think of. If you need a home for your dog or cat-put it on craig's list, or try a rescue. Don't take no more animals down there. And call the IRS AND HAVE THEM CHECK THEM ALL OUT!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Will there be a part 3 to this story? I would love to hear about some positive change as a result of all this. Please stay on top of it WNDU!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Does anyone know what happened at the meeting last night? Did they let the media in?

Posted by: Britt Location: Niles on May 23, 2008 at 12:41 PM
THIS IS FOR MELANIE....Look. If Nancy has a daughter that is named Britt, then I didn't know about it. But Brittney is my name and Nancy is not my mother. I have never met her before, I was just looking at the stories, evaluating what was said, and noticed that there was no newscasting which should make anyone mad at Nancy. I was reading all of the comments and thought it was stupid that people react to what could be lies coming from the public. Maybe they aren't lies...BUT HOW DO WE WHO ARE NOT AT THE SHELTER KNOW WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON??? ALL WE KNOW IS WHAT WAS COVERED IN THE NEWS STORY. So, I was just questioning the fact that people were making judgments because they read comments that could or could not be true. LAY OFF MY BACK MELANIE. I'm just asking people to think before they write nasty hateful things. IF THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH THOUGH, THEN IT IS JUST FINE FOR THEM TO TELL US ABOUT IT.

Posted by: Joe Location: Kokomo on May 23, 2008 at 12:36 PM
There are so many comments here about the board, I am mot sure that is fair and accurate. Please leave the board members out of this and concentrate on the management of the facility.

Posted by: past employee Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 12:28 PM
cont.... In those conditions, healthy or not, sooner or later, you will die from being sick. I have seen so many animals come in healthy and later die from catching something in there. TAHT IS NOT BETTER THAN BEING PUT DOWN!!! I'm sorry but I'm all for quality in living life , not seeing how long I can just stay alive!!!

Posted by: past employee Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 12:22 PM
If you haven't worked in the back,then you don't have a clue what goes on.IF you have,then you KNOW what's going on there and you KNOW what the ex employees are saying IS TRUE!!We DON'T want the animals put down just cause there's no room for them.How would you like to live in your bathtub with your tolite,food and water in there with you?IF your LUCKY enough to fill up the whole tub yourself,even if that means you sleep in your tolite,food and water,you WON'T get a room mate!IF your REAL lucky,you might get fresh food and water daily. Now how would you like to live like this for weeks or even months?Do you people REALLY think that is better than death?IF YOU REALLY DO,YOU HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS.To EVERYBODY that has NEVER worked there,you have no clue what your talking about.Is it better to die a slow painful,sick death or to die quickly and peacefully?I'm against putting animals down cause people don't want them BUT what are we suppose to do with too many animals to care for? cont...

Posted by: Anonymous on May 23, 2008 at 11:57 AM
This facility needs help NOW! Is there another agency that can come in and take over?

Posted by: To Anon 10:16 on May 23, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Nobody is saying put down 200 animals today. What good would that do? 20 or 30 more will just pop up tomorrow. There has to be a major overhaul in the system. However, it is not just slowing down the numbers coming in, it is also the care being given once they get there. The public is a HUGE part of the problem, but HS has to carry the burden for this inhumane treatment. Anyone who can't see that this is cruel has been working in that environment too long. Even those that have never been in their shoes should be able to empathize with how hard of a job shelter care workers have and others of us can truly understand. However, this in not humane and it is not a better alternative. There were cats stacked in the winter, that's why they had the "2 for 1" specials. The HS also doesn't take in nearly all the county's unwanted animals as most can't afford the current drop-off fees. One person told me she called 4 times about animals abandoned in a house next door and no one ever came

Posted by: Jo Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 11:14 AM
THANKS WNDU for doing this story. Please don't stop now. There is so much more to all of this. Change must take place soon. With the help of the media it may just become reality. We all want better conditions for these poor animals. The urgency just has not been there. Stay on top of this WNDU and maybe you will be credited for making the positive action that results

Posted by: Lisa Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 11:10 AM
I really hope this doesn't just "blow over" and get forgotten about once this is not the buzz anymore! We all need to band together somehow and make some changes happen. Any ideas people what we should do?

Posted by: Anonymous on May 23, 2008 at 11:05 AM
alexis dont you remember when there were even more carriers with cats in them?When someone would bring a cat in and we had to get it from the front office.We dident even have a carrier to take up there to get it we had to take the peoples carrier then take it back up to them.And guess were the cat went .Into a carrier with a sick cat in there already.Alot of cats died then and we would always find them dead in the litter box with litter all over them.And some times some animals get skiped and dose not get food or water the whole day!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Ecker is the one that put posion down for the rats and then a rat got into a cage with a cat and the cat eat it and got really sick and died.But Ecker dident care because she put even more posion down and two more cats died because of it.great job Ecker.yeah right!!!!!

Posted by: To Anonymous at 10:16 Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM
They would not have to euthanize 200 animals in one day if they would put down the sick or injured animals on a timely basis. They do not treat sick animals properly and cause disease to spread. Maybe if they had proper airflow in the building they could treat the sick animals without getting others sick, but until they build the new shelter this will not be possible, and they will continue to get more animals sick.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM
You cant really say you like ecker if you really dont know her.Because what she dose to the public that comes in that are going to adopt or put down there animals because of a good reason she is nice because she knows that she is not liked by alot of people and she wants to stay in there so she trys to get everyone she can to like her.But if you ever work for her thats when you see her real side she was just acting for the camera!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Hey Alexis,Do you rmemeber when there was even more carriers all over the place and we ran out when we had to go up front to get a cat someone took there.I wish everyone could of saw it then.So many cats got sick and died in there cages with there own crap all over them!!!

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 23, 2008 at 10:17 AM
Ok, what I don't understand is can't the state board do anything?? I mean she does hold a state license for being a Vet. right? Well, last time I checked anybody with a professional state license can get those revoked if they are breaking the law under their license right? How is this any different from a doctor or dentist performing surgery or some procedure with no anesthesia? Isn't that against the law somehow and the doctor would be in serious trouble? I just don't understand why NOTHING can be done? Just because she's Carol Ecker? I don't even know the lady and don't care who the **** she is! She is causing SERIOUS HARM to these animals. NOONE wants to adopt a sick animal idiot!!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 23, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Pet Refuge has the ability to turn cats away. They tell people they are full and recommend that they take them to the Humane Society. When the Humane Society gets 20 cats in EVERY DAY during the spring, they fill up fast because they aren't adopting out 20 of them a day. Maybe they should just kill 200 of them and take the shelter population from 500 animals to 300, put their corpses in a pile, then call WNDU back out to show them that they've done what all of you want! Would that make you guys happy? Yea, that sounds about right. A pile of 200 dead kittens would make this all better, wouldn't it????? Morons.

Posted by: Ya, right! on May 23, 2008 at 09:03 AM
Alexis-how much did Carol pay you to post your comment? Or did she treaten you? Pet Refuge has plenty of kittens right now, and they are NOT living in carriers! Wake up woman!

Posted by: Concerned Location: Osceola on May 23, 2008 at 07:42 AM
I have recently adopted a dog from this shelter on a Saturday. Although he seemed healthy and went to the vet on Monday with a great check up, by that Thursday the puppy was lethargic and throwing up and coughing all the time and my other dog was also sick and throwing up. The puppy was on meds for a month and took another month before he was up to speed with a wet cold nose. Even thought they don't want to they need to euthanize the sick one so the rest do not get sick. Many people I have talked to won't adopt there because the animals are always sick. I will not adopt from there again unless they do something. I will not bring sick home again from that shelter. It is too expensive and not fair to my other pets. I think it is inhumane to keep so many animals confined. I know I would rather be dead than confined to such a small area for so long and get sick becasue of all the floating viruses. Let it be known I love all animals.

Posted by: Joe Location: South Bend/Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 07:16 AM
The County Commissioners have to decided that NO ONE associated with the Humane Society or Humane Society Board have ANYTHING to do with licencing animals. Have the vets do it or find another way. Anyone can start a rescue and call it a "humane shelter" and NOT have oversite. We are outraged and we have to take action now. Maybe we have to start a citizen' action committee if the commissioners, prosecutor or mayor won't do what they are supposed it do. I talked to a policeman friend of mine and he said they've known about what has gone on at the Humane shelter for years, but Dr. Carol Ecker is very politically connected. Really? We demand justice FOR THE ANIMALS!!

Posted by: Former Volunteer Location: South Bend on May 23, 2008 at 01:48 AM
Dr. Ecker is not working for free. She is paying herself $50,000 a year from donations and government contracts. Maybe the IRS should be involved with this one.

Posted by: Tracy Location: Granger on May 23, 2008 at 01:07 AM
I have visited the humane society on Grape Road, and I agree it stinks horribly. God made animals for our pleasure, and for them to be living in these kinds of conditions is just plain cruelty. Euthenize the sick/mean animals TODAY.

Posted by: Alexis Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 11:15 PM
WNDU shame on you. Where were you this past winter when there was never any carriers in the treatment room. Oh, it wasn't cat and kitten season! Wake up people.

Posted by: Chrissy Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Some out there claim we need to help SJCHS. Many shelters out there have reached out in an attempt to lighten their load by taking some dogs and cats into private shelters. "Dr." Ecker didn't seem to think she needed the help. Trust me, if she would rather the animals lived out of those cages, she could find rescues to take them. Maybe spend less time shutting people up and more time emailing/calling rescues would lighten her load. While I greatly dislike Dr. Ecker and everything about her, keep in mind, the animals are the ones suffering here. They should not be punished for her crimes.

Posted by: anonymous Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 11:01 PM
I agree with Carol Eckert that small cages are better than euthenasia. Monetary donations are lacking due to a very poorly attended fund raiser. It was poorly advertised and attendance was very low. In addition, their policies do not seem to encourage adoption. Prospective pet owners are discouraged by their procedures and fees. Florida societies charge $50 and welcome pet owners. Our humane society has a negative approach to the public. They have promoted local laws limiting the number of animals in a home and even removed pets from loving homes. Local laws sponsored by the humane society even required veterinarians to report people with too many or unregistered animals. Many people are now avoiding vacinations or regular health care for their animals to avoid detection. The County Council needs to provide operating funds to the society. They need to change local laws to promote responsible pet ownership through subsidized neuter/vacination clinics run by the humane societ.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Ecker just needs to be gone.If all of mishawaka and south bend would be able to vote to keep her or to have her leave.I bet almost everything that it would be having her leave.

Posted by: George Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Dr.Ecker & the entire staff were extremely helpful when our daughters dog went missing Thanksgiving day. They were extremely helpful and at times went above and beyond their call of duty to help us locate her. While she has never been located, my deepest gratitude goes to my friends at the St.Joe County Humane Society. I think that all of the negative coments from the people are way off the deep end!!!!! Maybe someday they will find a friend at the St. Joe Humane Society!!!!

Posted by: inquiring Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 09:59 PM
How many pets are adopted out of the HS each month? That should give us an idea of how long it takes to "turn over" or adopt the 500 pets. If it is less than a month, then it may be ok to confine them. But my guess it is many months or longer that they are left in carriers. Now imaging living for months in your bathroom with no contact. I would rather be dead. The flies in the kittens cage will be leading to maggots in a very short time. What do Ecker's kennels look like? How can she preach to spay and neuter and breed dogs at the same time? Hypocritical. If someone does a thorough financial evaluation of the HS, they will determine that Ecker is getting some type of financial compensation. WNDU please dig deeper!!! Ecker needs to get out of the "Humane" society. She doesn't treat people or pets humanely. The entire board of directors is appointed by Carol Ecker and has been for years. If you fall out of her favor, a new board member is appointed. Who appoints the director?

Posted by: Julie Location: Kissy, USA on May 22, 2008 at 09:05 PM
I adopted my cat, now Kissy, from the Humane Society 3 yrs. ago. I felt so bad for her. She was in a cage all by herself, because "she did not get along with other animals." She was a full grown adult shorthair, and overweight. She had been there for over 4 months. I felt so bad for her. I knew no one would adopt her. I paid the shelter's fee, then took her DIRECTLY to a vet. She had fleas and worms! I was told she was given a flea bath at the shelter. Needless to say, it did no good. I love my Kissy and am so glad I saved her. But I cannot save every cat in the shelter! I hope the shelter realizes they cannot save every animal as well and if they are ill and suffering, they need to be put down. It breaks my heart to admit it but no animal should suffer! To everyone reading this, ADOPT AN ANIMAL NOW! They need you and they need your love! If you cannot adopt, please give as freely as you are financially able!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:52 PM
IF Ecker is so so good then way do almost all the vets not like her and laugh when she calls a boy cat a girl or send a already fixed cat to them to get fixed.And this happens like once every two weeks.

Posted by: Horrified Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:47 PM
What kind of Vet, with all these credentials, could treat animals this way? Surely she is aware that her actions are a health hazzard to the animals and the employees? She's a vet, she's in the medical field, I just cannot understand this. This shelter should be one of the best, not many shelters are run by Vets. This is horrible, are the local Vets aware of what she's doing? There has to be some law against it, she can't be allowed to continue hoarding like this. Yes, I noticed the cats being housed in Rat Cages!! YES, rat cages, they cannot move freely in them, the vet stated some had been there for 2 years!! I'm horrified, I cannot believe a so-called professional person is responsible for this cruelty and neglect, this is just awful. I'm going to email the mayor and anyone else who is in a position of power to change things. It's hard to believe this abuse is going on in my own town, I pass that place daily, only now I know what goes on behind their closed doors.

Posted by: concerned animal lover Location: mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:03 PM
If I remember there was an article in the paper a few years back from a former employee who was concerned about what was going on at the HS. if everyone who have stopped and listened then instead of turning their heads, today things may have been different for all those poor animals. I do not know if St. Joesph county has a web site for adopting those animals out but if not that is one option. there are many differnet things the HS can do to try and get those animals adopted if their hearts were really into it. Have you ever heard of dogsindanger.com???? check it out. I tried a few years ago to adopt but was turned down. i do not remeber why, but my kids were heartbroken not to get that sweet dog they fell in love with.

Posted by: jafo Location: elkhart on May 22, 2008 at 07:46 PM
"The purpose of the Humane Society is not to save lives, but to prevent suffering." I remember reading this a while back. A true statement, but is one without compassion and unethical. Euthanizing an animal because there are too many is just morally wrong. I applaud Dr. Ecker and ESPECIALLY her staff. A tough job to do in an even more tough situation. I could not do it. I am glad this was brought out into the public. I wish channel 16 would do more to help find a solution. If this is the first we are hearing about this, then the directors have failed at their mission to provides homes for these animals and need to regroup! Why don't the other shelters help the overload and take some of the overcrowding and stop complaining about the condition..oh wait, they don't have a waiting list...they kill theirs...literally. Why are their no low cost spay and neuter clinics? Why not more available to the public? Once you domesticate, you become responsible!

Posted by: Phyllis Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 07:29 PM
In a perfect world all animals would be sterilized, no more reproduction unless needed. But, this isn't a perfect world and with the Vetenerians charging an outrageous price I can understand why most dogs are either running loose and constantly preproduce. I'm sure that is one reason Dr. Carol Ecker is able to work with no pay. I have an idea let the vets provide this service free. Oh My, did I hear the vets faint? In 43 years of marriage we've had Old English Sheep Dogs, Doxies, Llapso and everyone did not contribute to over population. I believe in sterilization but not robbing to have an increase bottom line. Oh yes, 40 years ago it was necessary for me to have contact with Dr. Carol, I still shutter when I think about the situation.

Posted by: Doc Location: Granger on May 22, 2008 at 06:25 PM
Dr. Ecker has classic OCD with animal hoarding tendancies. She is obviously a control freak and won't listen to anyone else, period! She is not doing any justice to these poor animals by forcing them to live that way. I am sure that many of them would be better off eutanized so their suffering can end. This whole thing is making me physically sick! I hope something happens soon to change what is happening over there! We live in the USA for God's sake! There is NO excuse for these conditions.

Posted by: Terri Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 06:25 PM
I have had wonderful dealings with the Humane Society. Everyone From the most important cage cleaners to the most important director, and everyone in between, and I have never seen a more selfless and compassionate group of people.I think that what it sounds like the majority of people want is a no kill uncrowded shelter. What a catch22. If you have multiple cats and dogs, "outside" cats, "barn" cats and they are not spayed or neutered, with all due respect, you are the problem. The problem is not the good people that work at our humane society. Thank you to Dr Ecker and everyone else that works at the Humane Society in Mishawaka

Posted by: Mazie Location: Bremen on May 22, 2008 at 06:14 PM
I also have to say that Dr. Ecker should retire immediately. She does not have the animals' best interests in mind. The county should step in and do something. I remember her from when I was a kid, and I don't think she has any business in the position she is in now. They should be in the business of placing animals and not trying to find any reason they can to deny someone when they want to adopt. Nobody wants to euthanize an animal, I have been there for all of the animals that I have had throughout the years, but it is a humane end to their lives. They deserve better than having to live in tiny, cramped, dirty cages. I would be afraid to bring home an animal from there after seeing the condition of the facility and some of the animals there. Something needs to be done soon, and I applaude Channel 16 for their effort.

Posted by: Geoff on May 22, 2008 at 06:10 PM
I emailed PETA and received this response. Wanted to pass along the info... "Thank you for contacting us. I passed this along to the appropriate staffer for review. Please read over all of the information and links on this page: http://www.helpinganimals.com/ga_helpLocalShelter.asp. You will find everything you need to know about campaigning to end the suffering of companion animals in your community. As you probably know, in the end it takes the strength of local taxpayers to protest this and affect real change. We know it is difficult but it is vital that activists in the county get influential people (veterinarians, business owners, etc.), as well as the "man on the street" to write to the papers, talk to the press, attend council meetings, etc., to really make positive and lasting changes."

Posted by: Mazie Location: Bremen on May 22, 2008 at 06:07 PM
Hooray for WNDU's courage to delve into this subject! My family has owned many animals and keep them until they die. When we tried to adopt a dog from the HS, we were also turned down because we did not have HS approved fencing. We live in the country and NEVER ever leave our pets outside unattended. Last year my daughter found a Sheltie along side the road that was in horrible shape - we were not even sure she was a Sheltie because she had so much hair gone. I called the HS to ask if anyone had reported one missing. They never did tell me if anyone had, they did, however, threaten me with being arrested for harboring a lost animal if I did not bring her it to them! I had her checked out with my vet, put an ad in the paper, and nobody claimed her. She is now a beautiful dog with a lush, full coat, and she doubled her weight. I shudder to think what might have happened to her if I had not refused to bring her to them!

Posted by: Thinks Kurt Rocks on May 22, 2008 at 05:55 PM
No, I don't know him, but please read Kurt's posts if no others. People are not understanding that a large number of cats in those carriers are not going to make it anyway. Does any animal lover want to see euthanasia for space? Absolutely not. However,those who have not witnessed disease spread in a shelter setting need to realize that there are truly worse things. The current shelter is said to hold 300 (up from 250). As already expressed, if they try to maintain 500 then the "new shelter" would instantly be at maximum capacity with more coming in every day. Most people understand that education and low-cost spay/neuter are the main tools we have to fight the pet overpopulation problem. This story was about what is happening to the animals in the mean time. While we are working on the problem, the innocent victims of society's throwaway mentality should at least receive decent care. If they don't have the space or means to provide that, then respect them enough to let them go.

Posted by: Dave Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Thanks also, WNDU.. you may not be able to change things, but at least we know what a hypocrite and what a shyster(sp?) Dr. Ecker is. Also, in the words of Bob Barker, "Don't forget to spay and neuter your pets."

Posted by: Suzanne Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 05:50 PM
While I would hate to see an animal "put-down", I have to say my recent adoption experience was unsettling. Our puppy was quit ill when we adopted her and was later diagnosed by our vet with Microbiotic Pneumonia. She had to remain at the human society for several days in isolation after we adopted her until we insisted on taking her to our own vet. I was shocked by the condition of the facility on my our visits. The odor was overwhelming and certainly not an inviting enviroment for meeting a pet. In addition, our puppy, while in isolation was in a cage in a room with other animals stacked below her and lying in her own urine. I am pleased to say, however, after a $1200 vet bill she is a healthy happy puppy now. I hate to think what might have happened to her had we not been willing to assume the cost of caring for her. I simply don't think their over-crowding will be resolved until the facility it's self is improved. The odor alone is enought to turn a willing adoptive family away.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 05:34 PM
I'm really beginning to think that Ms. Exker really doesn't care about these aniamls at all, especially the way she says she does; it's all about the money-she could care-less that these animals are SUFFERING!!

Posted by: anonymous Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 05:32 PM
I think it is time for this woman to leave and all of her followers. We need a regime change immediately! How do we go about this Please tell us!! so we can get started and help all these animals out. I already have a nomination for the new director well actually 2 my first choice would be Dr Kryder, he has always done great things for the animals in st joseph county he donates services to pet refuge and is very involved. My second choice would be Dr Vogyl, I frequently here good things about him too. We need someone who is going to start helping these animal asap, and start building the new facility for more room and a cleaner environment.

Posted by: lisa Location: granger on May 22, 2008 at 05:20 PM
Yes, I also have a problem with Ms. Carol Ecker. I found my own cat lying out in the barn he could not move. I called her office for emergency service and she told me she would charge me 2000. dollars because the cat would have to stay in quarenteen and then she could look at him to see what was wrong. I hung up on her called Roseland animal Clinic and Dear Dr. Vissor looked at my cat right away. My pet had to be put down because his organs were failing because he had a Heart murmer. Thanks to good people with a good heart. Get out of the business Carol, I know I will never ever call you again for your service!

Posted by: Former Employee Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 04:39 PM
When I quit I tried to tell someone-no one would listen. Dr. Ecker preformed spades and neuters in the room known as the Hilton and Hyatt. They were not sanitized because she couldn't find the stuff to clean the rooms and she was in a hurry. There were sick cats and dogs in there and she just moved them out for the time being. She never even had the fesus cleaned out while she did the operations. The director, Eric said it was illegal so we had to shut up about it. The last director and the woman that sat at the front desk for the longest time-everybody who has been in there knows who I'm talking about-tooking money out of the cash register all the time. When I asked him about it, he said "prove it." They are all crooks.

Posted by: Mary Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 04:23 PM
WNDU - thanks for the story, I hope this isn't the end of this tragic story.

Posted by: Former Vet Employee Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 04:22 PM
I have witnessed many euthanasias in my life working for several different vets over the years. It is very difficult to witness, even when the pet is old and sick, let alone, young and healthy. Some people I worked with "got used" to seeing it or doing it, but not me. I cried along with the owners more times than not. The doctors I worked for finally got to the point where they refused to euthanize a healthy animal just because the owners were tired of them or their behavior was not perfect. They would euthanize, however, if the animal was a biter or vicious. Although putting an animal to sleep is a very humane way to euthanize, it is still so sad. It is also sad to see how some of these animals at the humane society are being kept, especially the cats. That is not a good life for them. What I really hope to see is a much larger facility in the very near future with MUCH better quality of life for our furry friends! I think Dr. Ecker has run her course there and needs to resign NOW!

Posted by: To Anon on May 22, 2008 at 04:10 PM
Nobody thinks it's right, but sadly it IS necessary.

Posted by: Kurt Location: New Carlisle on May 22, 2008 at 04:08 PM
Please, attend one. Then watch a dog suffer from parvovirus. Then compare the experiences.

Posted by: resident on May 22, 2008 at 04:06 PM
I think this article has opened a big can of worms, although I find the conditions of the shelter very disturbing, I can't help but to think there's more issues here than just the hoarding. The post regarding Ecker wanting to be in on a deal with selling a horse if she says it's medically sound, the money from Katrina, the donations (where do they go?) The breeding of her own dogs, Dobermans, Corgi's, people being fired for standing up to her, the recent appeal from vets regarding her new ordinance. There's a bigger picture here people, it appears that different people out there have all kinds of different experiences with this woman and it's all surfacing finally. I don't like what I'm hearing.

Posted by: Anon Location: Mouse on May 22, 2008 at 03:57 PM
WHoever thinks this is not right, attend a euthanasia!!! Thats not right. The county should help outt more.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 03:41 PM
I am a serious animal lover but I have to completely agree with Kurt. I'd rather see an animal that's sick and suffering be put "asleep" rather than them suffering slowly like they are at the shelter. I can't stand to hear or even read people's comments defending the HS. They're just as bad.

Posted by: Robert Location: Granger on May 22, 2008 at 03:39 PM
"At least they're still alive..." now. Want to know where they hid all those cats in the treatment room? Either in the officer's room, outside barn, or the euthanasia room itself, depending on where the tour didn't lead the camera team. Maybe they should invite Ryan in to watch the surgeries, so he could get a first hand look at all the fun she has there. Like all the animals waking up mid-operation, not wearing gloves or washing between animals, throwing live kittens in a garbage can after aborting carrying mothers... Not to mention the botched suture jobs and absurd mistakes made prescribing medications. Some animals are baked out of their minds afterward, while others lie in pain. Don't feel sorry for the one causing all this because of a fear of losing the only thing left under her control in life. The solution is a regime change. The new facility is only 500 animals? So it will be filled instantly upon opening... leaving how much time before looking like this now?

Posted by: Anonymous on May 22, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Here's a question. People say to volunteer....ok well I have been in that place and the smell is overwhelming. I couln't stand it for more than 5 minutes, let alone enough time to volunteer. So who's job is it to clean the cages. It certainly shouldn't be the volunteers EVERYDAY! What do the employees get paid to do? Stroke Ecker's ego?? Now before anybody starts in on me about humane soceity's smelling...I have been in others and it doesn't even come close to St. Joe's. I also tried to adopt a pet from there and was denied because my 6 foot privacy fence wasn't sufficient....they wanted me to have a cable run installed instead. Ridiculous

Posted by: Robert Location: Granger on May 22, 2008 at 03:28 PM
The problems stem past the overpopulation. The employees that step up and actually improve the facility are generally punished, because if anything is done that is helpful without it being fully attributed to Dr. Ecker herself, it is shunned by the very same woman, regardless of results. When the previous employees did want the number of animals to be reduced to something even slightly closer to appropriate levels, they were denied. And when it was approved by Ecker, the weight fell on one individual, who was tore up from it (but had the spine and brains to admit it was needed) to be later yelled at as a murderer by the same woman who told her to do it. Legal issues involving competitive show horse owners, not saving animals found in poor conditions because of lack of space, leaving DNR out of the loop against proper legal procedure, and proper disposal of biological waste raise more questions. Yet they all stem from the same source...

Posted by: To Ecker cont Location: St. Joseph County on May 22, 2008 at 03:26 PM
In addition to my previous post. Dr. Ecker made a generous donation in my dog's name to animal research. She did not have to do that and it was totally unexpected. She truly cares about animals.

Posted by: To K Brewer on May 22, 2008 at 03:22 PM
She has help, she has had lots of help. She has pushed her employees to breaking point, how can an employee try and do the right thing to always get told it's her way or the highway? For her to say the ex employees were lazy, please show us proof of this, show their time cards of how many hours they were there. One girl used to come in at 5am and not punch in until 7am because she wasn't allocated enough time to clean adoption animals. Staff have sat in meetings and have been told any overtime worked is considered donated time, the director would walk into the back of the shelter at nearly closing time and give them even more duties to do. The staff are overworked, overwhelmed and under paid. Limited staff results in badly cared for animals, it says something when a lot of the time there was more staff working on the front desk than there was working in the back with the animals!!

Posted by: To Dr. Ecker Location: St. Joseph County on May 22, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Dr. Ecker you are a SAINT. I thank God for you. You stand your ground and don't let these idiots try to change you. When you put our dying dog down, you put HER first and not us. As hard as it was on us, you cared only about her. You wanted the last thing for her to see was us. You treated her with dignity and respect. I thank you for that every day. Don't ever change.

Posted by: Follow up Please on May 22, 2008 at 03:12 PM
WNDU please do a follow up story that includes what the County, major, and prosecutors plan on doing to correct this situation for the tax paying citizens. Our community needs this situation resolved peacefully and timely. Many animals lives depend upon action taken. thank you.

Posted by: Kurt Location: New Carlisle on May 22, 2008 at 03:12 PM
So the options are: hold the animal and caress its head while a sodium solution quickly numbs it, giving it a drunken feeling of euphoria to finally fall asleep for the last time, or observe that animal stop eating, defecate in its water bowl repeatedly, go blind because its eyes are encrusted shut, lie on its side because its nose is so filled with mucus that it cannot get enough oxygen, or simply go feral from the conditions/isolation/lack of human contact and attack everything around it, including itself sometimes. Yeah, much better the slow way. All these animal lovers would almost pay to have their pets emaciate like they were in a concentration camp before their stool is covered in thick pockets of blood. Yes, its gory, and that is why hording is wrong. Too many animals in a facility with no air flow equals the worst quality of life possible, which is the antithesis of 'humane'. Do not let simple emotion override logical reasoning for the right reasons. Slow down and think.

Posted by: Kurt Location: New Carlisle on May 22, 2008 at 03:05 PM
The implications may not be fully understood by someone who has not lived or worked in those conditions for a good amount of time (including the person running the place, who still lacks working knowledge of the functional needs of the quarantine section). The hording is a way to keep an animal alive and in good health (if they came in that way) for 48 hours or so. But the biggest thing in infection. By keeping so many, sickness spreads fast! 6 months ago someone would go through the entire quarantine section every morning to pick out the 1-3 kittens that died the night before out from under their litter mates or out of the mouth of a hungry mother... per day! It may not seem right to some to euth to keep a population down, but when the population is vomiting its own blood, has maggots crawling out of holes in its body, or passes out from blood loss several times a day from flees (these are all occurances there seen first hand), the need for population control suddenly seems humane...

Posted by: Chris Location: Michiana on May 22, 2008 at 03:04 PM
I would love to volunteer but have been turned down. I wonder how many would open their homes to these animals until they could find a family to go home with. It was solve some of the houseing troubles. Just like they have foster family's for children, why not have them for animals as well? I would gladly offer my home to some of those animals until another was found for them. Solutions are hard to come by. Either way what she is doing is wrong. There is no other way to describe it. She needs to be taken to task. I love animals too. But those poor dears are suffering. The public should help yes. But her job is to take care of the animals that arent being cared for not to blame the public for not careing for them.

Posted by: melanie Location: mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 03:04 PM
britt- isnt that cute; defending your mom. anyway, i know for a fact that what we all saw on camera was exactly what is going on. as far as attacking one due to just one working with someone is right on target. you can not tell me that nancy did not think that the carriers stacked by her office with cats living in them is o.k. Nancy i am sure is smarter than that. Maybe nancy thought about the cats in the carriers when she passed them going into her office to get Dr.Eckers paycheck. ( oh thats right she does not get paid- just gets a blank paper in her payroll envelope) AND AS FAR AS BEING SNEAKY WITH THE CAMERAS- OF COURSE " WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CATS WHISPERER" would have allowed a tour to be done as the place was? keep calling the rescues to move the animals out before they fade away....

Posted by: eric Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 03:02 PM
would these animals be better off on the street?

Posted by: K Brewer Location: Lapaz on May 22, 2008 at 02:53 PM
There is something wrong going on here, but what I think a lot of people fail to recognize is how hard it truly is running this sort of facility. Everyone wants to point fingers, but no one is stepping up to help. Adopt a pet, become a volunteer, foster an animal, become an advocate or donate! These are our animals. This is our community! Quit throwing blame here, this problem belongs to ALL of us. We've seen what is wrong and talking alone won't fix it. It's time for action.

Posted by: Re: A Plan on May 22, 2008 at 02:44 PM
I like the plan, except for the HSUS part. Most folks don't understand that they don't have anything to do with individual humane societies. If you ask for help, they will tell you that it is up to your community to get the management changed. We have to keep pressure on until the "old guard" has been ousted and new blood is allowed to take over with fresh ideas and new insights for proper care. For those who have only seen the 'good' side of the director, I agree whole-heartedly that it is there. I have seen it myself. I have also seen it spin on a dime and turn into something very ugly. People are not exaggerating and most have no reason to make anything up as the only concern has ever been for proper care of the animals. There are free programs available that offer shelter training. As mentioned earlier, this is what is called "slow-kill", not no-kill. Holding off on euthanasia because it makes you feel bad, regardless of how much the animals suffer, doesn't even make sense.

Posted by: me Location: downtown on May 22, 2008 at 02:39 PM
I worked at the H.S. 25 years ago. Animals were euthanized on a regular basis. I believer Thursday was the day and it just wasn't the ones who were deemed "unadoptable". Dr. Ecker had done a lot of good for the shelter, but maybe after all this time it's time to regroup and refocus under new leadership. They were talking about the need for a new shelter 25 years ago and nothing has changed. Also the director we had back then treated us like like her personal gophers and when Dr. Ecker was around we were talked down to and treated like crap.

Posted by: Joe Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 02:22 PM
First: Read every-one's comments instead of name-calling at the people who have come forward. This obviously has been going on for many years and this woman will not give up that money so easily. After all this seems to be about money and totalitarian control not about the love of animals. Second: Add up the amount of money they have. Amazing. Third: GET those animals OUT. DO NOT bring any more animals over there. Check out the rescues on the web. Fourth: DON'T LET THIS DIE DOWN.

Posted by: T Location: MISHAWAKA on May 22, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Ron, you must be Dr. Carol's husband. you defend her so well. As for those of you who are telling everyone to adopt from the shelter, have you? Have your read that most people were denied adoption? I have pets and take very good care of them. I was denied adoption because I was 4 weeks late on a vaccination for my dog. I still got her vaccinated but that wasn't good enough. the HS is too strict and the adoption fees are too high. They need to "clean house" and get new admin and employees. County officials need to step up to the plate and make changes!

Posted by: A PLAN on May 22, 2008 at 01:56 PM
FIrst HSUS needs to temporily take over, fire employees that are "under the Dr's influence" and unwilling to change thier ways. Train a new staff and director. Then yes the community needs to step up and help with donations and volunteerism and events. At that time a new shelter can be under construction to be able to house more animals allowing proper social skills to be preserved. Then the Community needs to continue thier efforts to keep our shelter in top condition. Thank you WNDU, this may never have been a possiblity without your help. We need a change!

Posted by: Frenk Location: Titleville on May 22, 2008 at 01:55 PM
Ron, if you would only care to read probberly, people HAVE gone and volunteered and been told go stuff envelopes. probberly so they wouldnt see the NAZSTI DEATH CAMP behind the seenes. This Dr Ecker needs to be put in a cage with no clothes and just a bowl of gruel AND NO POTTY! Maybe then she'll think twice about locking poor animals like this. If she has nothing to hide she should open the doors to everyone and let us look, see where our money is going. Evil. Evil. EVIL!

Posted by: Questions on May 22, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Please tell us how to support them. People have been trying for years to support the HS. It is in worse shape than it has ever been (not just the building). These aren't just disgruntled people talking here. There are animal advocates, shelter workers, rescue volunteers, and pet lovers who are calling for change. How do you support something that you believe to be inately wrong? Everyone's goal is or should be to end euthanasia of homeless pets. In the meantime, they will keep coming in and you can't just stack them to the rafters and let them live like that. I volunteer in shelters. I have seen bad things, but not like this. This is selfish. They live like that for weeks or months only to get sick because of it and then be put down later? Do we even know how many animals go in each month, how long their average life span in a cramped space is, and how many make it out as happy, healthy adopted pets? Are they just prolonging the suffering of many in order to save a few?

Posted by: keep it up WNDU on May 22, 2008 at 01:43 PM
soo lets pose this scenerio.... bigger shelter is built that can house 500 animals at one time comfortably and cleanly... so will Dr Ecker then start cramming 800 in that space. They cycle of warehousing and hoarding will not end at a new building... Look closer at the video what else is cluttered around them besides animals? see a pattern... there are numerous piles of boxes and just things cluttered everywhere. This is also part of the hoarding mental disorder!

Posted by: R and S Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 01:40 PM
Maybe we would volunteer if we were able to...did you ever think of that Ron. Do you know how many people are denied the volunteer opportunities at the shelter because Carol doesn't know if they would be loyal to her. Also, people cannot adopt more pets if they have already reached the pet limit, another ordinance brought on by Carol. I would think more animals would get adopted had this not been the case, but she has to be in total control of everything. If they have more animals than they can care for, why not let the public have a higher pet limit. It is proven that hoarding is a disease and will not be stopped by a pet limit or legal action.

Posted by: Dawn Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 01:38 PM
A group of us were waiting to see Part 2 at noon-nothing. Why wasn't it shown at that time, too. Did Dr. Ecker make someone back down again? After years of waiting to see justice for the animals, it is so close Criminal charges have to be filed. DON"T LET THIS ISSUE DIE DOWN. Call the mayor of Mishawaka. Call the Prosecutor. Maybe now they will listen. SPREAD THE WORD.

Posted by: Ron Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 01:19 PM
For all the big mouthed idiots that are slamming Dr. Carol, why don't get off you dead asses and go volunteer at the shelter and make a difference!

Posted by: Julli Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 01:10 PM
Really Dr. Ecker?? Are you kidding me?? I think it's a wonderful idea to have a no kill shelter but you CANNOT be a no kill shelter without FIRST having the facility and budget to support it!!! How can you possibly justify this?!?! Yes, people should adopt rather than buy. Yes people should keep them for the long haul. Yes people should always spay and neuter their pets. And yes people should support the shelter, BUT until all of those things happen, you CANNOT continue to house this many animals and then rationalize the deplorable conditions by blaming the public. Do your job and take care of the animals humanely.

Posted by: CP Location: SB on May 22, 2008 at 01:04 PM
Quit pointing fingers. The fact is we NEED a bigger facility no matter who the director is. It NEEDS to have a medical clinic in it to take care of all the animals. I know a lot of people don't care for Dr. Ecker, but she is a good person & loves animals. John Q Public needs to take responsibility for their pets. If you can't afford them don't get them in the first place. Do we euthanize children that are up for adoption that can't find a home? Sneaking in with cameras was very wrong, if you would have been up front with Dr. Ecker she would have granted you an interview I'm sure. She doesn't like the conditions there either.

Posted by: Lew Location: La Porte on May 22, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Carol Ecker said former employees were not part of the team. I know people who worked there and there is no team. It's Ecker's way or no way. Even other vets this the conditions are horrible and the animals are not taken care of properly. Animals with illnesses are not separated from the general population and diseases spread like a wild fire there. I once photographed animals at the HS and had to photograph them outside so as to not show the deplorable conditions they lived in. I was deeply saddened by the conditions they're forced to live in. And if Carol Ecker run the HS like she has her horse business, it's scary! My uncle has been in the Quarter Horse business for 50 years. Once he was selling a horse and the buyer asked if Carol Ecker could stop by and look at him to check him over. She called my uncle and said that she would give a clean bill of health if he cut her in on the deal. If not, then she'd recommend the buyer not buy the horse. The horse was 100% good!

Posted by: annie mouse Location: goshen on May 22, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I agree with chris from mishawaka - lots more people would be willing to adopt if (1) fees weren't so high, (2)screening wasn't so long, (3) you were treated with respect when you try to adopt. I had visited the Elkhart County Shelter about six years ago to adopt and it was the same way - they acted like I was just coming out there for the tour - duh!! My husband and I have no children at home, an underground dog fence and love animals. Becuase of the way I was treated at the shelter we chose not to adopt, but instead went to a breeder for a dog - not to be able to register, but just to get a dog. We actually would have preferred adopting, but again the shelter made it a very difficult. If they don't want to have people come out and try to adopt, they need to take the poor animals home with them and take care of them properly.

Posted by: Sue Location: Indiana on May 22, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Abuse. The end. Private citizens wouldn't get away with that type of situation, why should this shelter? Someone definately needs to step in on this one.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Now I know why my cat is afraid all the time. Seriously she can not stand to be in a room with a closed door-she totally freaks out. When we brought her home she hid for the first month. I tried so hard to get her to warm up with us, and she finally did-took her awhile. But when company comes over depending on whether they're quiet people or not, she'll scurry away and hide if they're loud. My other cat is not like that at all-he absolutely loves people, yet he didn't come from this shelter like my baby girl did. I am so heartbroken and outraged!

Posted by: Lew Location: La Porte on May 22, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Again, why is Carol Ecker and Nancy Deneen allowed to be on the board and be an employee? This is a conflict of interest and allows them to answer to no one.

Posted by: Britt Location: Niles on May 22, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Also, why are people attacking Nancy Deneen? There has been no legitimate proof, let alone any mentioning of her name on the news, that would make her seem like a bad person. The only thing I can think of is that someone may have had a disagreement with her, and therefore thought it would be nice to add her name to this controversy. Is it fair to be rude and place blame on someone just because they work at the Humane Society? No. Not unless there is proof that the person actually did something wrong. I won't take the side of someone's personal vendetta unless I know that Nancy is actually guilty. BE CAREFUL OF THESE COMMENTS! HOW DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONES ARE TRUE?????? (freedom of speech...a great thing, right?)

Posted by: Roger Location: Granger on May 22, 2008 at 12:37 PM
America has become a nation of disposable pet owners. Doesn't your family pet deserve better? Choose wisely, for when the bond breaks, everybody concerned suffers. Make selecting your new family pet a life-affirming act. habitat4pets.com

Posted by: s Location: bremen on May 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM
When my husband and I adopted a cat from the marshall county humane society we had to sign a contract stating we would have the cat fixed (which we did) and that if for some reason we could not keep the cat we had to take it back to them. Well when our son was born he bacame allergic to the cat. So when I called to ask about returning it they asked me why i couldn't just have it put to sleep. I still took it back to them. How can they tell a person to kill their cat. They wouldn't accept me giving the cat to another good home, but they wanted me to kill it rather than take it back to them. Marshall County Humane Society is just as bad as this one.

Posted by: Melanie Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I did not know that this story was spurred on becasue ex-employees were lazy. let me clear- Lazy i am not- I left that place on my own accord and it was not due to being lazy. It was because i could not try to fight a hoarder-or collector - whatever you want to call it. Why is the behavior acceptable there but not on battel street several years ago? the cats were no better off there than they were on battel street. there are worse things than being dead; Cramped into a small cage while your eyes burn due to infection, the stench of cat urine, or the smell from the machine used for cremation just feet away? hmmmm- there are worse things than being dead- if dr.ecker stands by her decision to not euthanize than why did the current employees move the carriers from the treatment room into the euth room? opps- have i said to much? stand tall and proud dr.ecker that one who took the oath to be humane and care for animals. Purdue university must be brimming with pride way to go!

Posted by: Britt Location: Niles on May 22, 2008 at 12:29 PM
I am astonished at the comments that are being made about these segments. Individuals are claiming that Dr. Ecker and Nancy Deneen are guilty of doing all these bad things. On a comment board like this, any person can write ANYTHING they want whether it is true or not. What gets me is that other individuals read these comments and take them as being FACT. This is not wise. What would be better would be to perhaps look into the possible slanderous claims that are being made before assuming they are true. It sounds to me like Dr. Ecker has rubbed many people the wrong way. But from watching the video, I can't believe she doesn't care about animals. She may be hiding the cats in the treatment room. But why would she be working for free if she did not care for animals? I think many people would love to see Dr. Ecker fired. That would explain why they would say she pocked money and performed surgery on awake animals. But how do we know this is true? If it is then we need proof then fire her

Posted by: Velma Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 11:39 AM
For those that keep saying the HS needs more money - look at my comments from last night. According to the HS IRS 990 Form from 2006 - The HS has nearly $2 MILLION dollars sitting in an investement account for a new building - but Ecker does not think it will be a big enough monument to her so she wants more money. The HS is making $120,000 per year from investment income. So, the plans keep changing and changing. AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND... Mishawaka and the County give over $300,000 a year to the HS. How much more do they want? What city services are we all willing to give up? Are we willing to pay more in taxes? Maybe the building should be built without all the imported tile floors and soaring ceilings and office space designed for corporate executives. USE THE MONEY and build a shelter that will house the most animals as possible. Take some of the funds to underwrite costs of fixing animals and educating the public. This is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!! Build the building already!

Posted by: Pet Lover! Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Why doesn't everyone step up to the plate and adopt an animal! Then you can volunteer your time at the H.S so you can see first hand what is going on. It is really easy to sit back on your couch and complain about the direction the H.S. is going, but it is much harder to get up and do something about it. I am sure these animals would love to have people come in and show them some type of affection. We as a community need to support the H.S. even if we disagree with how it is being run. There are ways to raise money and to build a new facility. Heck ND does it all the time, but football must be more important to Sout Bend, Mishawaka residents then the animals. We need to come together and improve the situation!

Posted by: Willie Location: Niles on May 22, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Spay/neuter your pets and don't buy them unless you intend to keep them, and you wouldn't have this problem. Don't buy them PERIOD; there are plenty of good animals that need adopted.

Posted by: In the know Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 11:09 AM
If you can't afford a regular vet bill to get you pet spayed or neutered, Pet Refuge sells certificates for $50.00 to get your animal fixed at local participating vets. Their phone number is 256-0886. There is also the neuter scooter that comes to town on a regular basis.

Posted by: chris Location: michiana on May 22, 2008 at 11:04 AM
It is hard to adopt from the Humane Society. I have the money to take care of a pet. I have a nice yard. But I was told that I didnt make enough money, that since my yard wasnt fenced, and because I had small kids I couldnt adopt. All of these explanations were given to me on seprate occasions. So finally I just bought one from another family. Our pet is well cared for loved and is getting everything it needs. I understand that HS needs standards but the should relook at some of them.Before anyone jumps down my thoart.Our pet sees the vet once a year.We paid for shots and to get it fixed.Our vet is always commenting on how well we care for our pet.This could of been a pet from the human society but it isnt because of their standards.Someone should look into that!

Posted by: Chris Location: Elkhart on May 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM
No-kill is a great goal. However, keep in mind that SJCHC DOES euthanise sick or unadoptable (due to behavior)animals. The way these animals are being treated will make them sick and will make them anti-social. Make no mistake, Eckert is killing animals, she's just doing it clowly and cruelly. Throwing money to Ecker isn't going to help. Choosing to adopt animals from the shelter will. Making sure your pets are spayed an neutered will help. Replacing Ecker will help. The no-kill ideal is wonderful. Sacrificing the health and well being of those living animals for the sake of that ideal is not. When staunch animal rights supporters oppose the operation of an animal shelter, it's time to do something to change the situation.

Posted by: Terrie Location: IN on May 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM
If they want to eliminate the overpopulation, why don't they reconsider their fees. $300 is alot to adopt an animal==especially when they like Pet Refuge will refuse you if you don't have a fence. Not to mention their fees for animals who escape your yard and get picked up--cost so much I am sure some people choose(have to) to leave their per there because they can't afford the outrageous fees to get your pets back. My dog wasn't even there 24 hours and it was $80. My dog got $20 of medications he didn't need (they would have known that had they called my vet, yes my dog has a tag and a microchip)and a $25 fee to stay in those living conditions is absolutely ridiculous. The $35 pickup fee, well I guess I understand that with today's gas prices. But why make people jump through hoops to adopt an animal or get back an animal that is already a loved member of their family. Carol Ecker you need to resign when I dealt with you and your staff for my dog you were all rude.

Posted by: Concerned Animal Lover Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Lindsey. Wake up and smell the coffee dear. If you had animals in your home housed like that you would go to jail and pay a hefty fine. I see it on TV all the time. You are NOT helping these poor animals by siding with the money hungry butchers at the H.S. If you don't think it's all about money put 60 cats in your home and house them the same way. Then write back and tell us how much you paid in legal fees. The are other shelters that treat animals much better than that I'll suport them!

Posted by: Peyton Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Hey Laura, current employee, I will not give Dr.Ecker cash. She will only put it towards the vet clinic she wants to build herself in the new building. When she no longer has hand in the HS I will start donating money again. For now I will only donate food for the animals to use immediately.

Posted by: Abbie Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 10:53 AM
It is not matter of more money or more space. An open source, no-kill shelter requires an entirely different approach to adoptions, and the SJHS never seemed to change how they operate when they transitioned to a no-kill adoption center. You can not simply wait for people to walk in the door looking for a pet. You have to promote the animals, like better descriptions on the web site and off-site adoption events. You also need to ensure that the animals that are in the facility long term have a sufficient quality of life, with physical and mental enrichment, and don’t simply sit in their kennel for months (even years). These are things that seem to be lacking at SJHS, and a fancy, large building will not fix what seems to be the core problem.

Posted by: Brooke Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 10:49 AM
I thought it was great when Ecker was caught saying "Where'd you put the cats?" It was absolutely perfect. That is what she does, she hides things. I am glad the public can finally see how crazy she is. GET HER OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!

Posted by: Linda Location: Granger on May 22, 2008 at 10:49 AM
What makes it OK to put down animals because of lack of space? Whould you euthanize kids because someone had too many in their house? For pete sake people, add on to the facility or build a bigger one. I've seen buildings torn down all over the place that were perfectly good because someone wanted to build something new. THAT'S a waste of money. It's not wasted if it's better for the animals. If some are really sick and can't be helped then i agree to put them down so they don't suffer but not otherwise.

Posted by: LA Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I posted a comment to this board last night. Where is it? Did it get lost?

Posted by: Jeff Location: Granger on May 22, 2008 at 10:39 AM
So Dr. Ecker claims she is against euthanising the animals. That is such B.S. When my ex and I seperated had to move to an appartment that didn't except pets and my ex took our 1 year old dog to the H.S. they put the puppy down in 1 month! There are other ways to handle an over crowded shelter. Lower the adoption fees for people that will give these pets a good home. Find other shelters that will house them. You excuses are poor! and psst where'de you hide the cats. BUSTED!

Posted by: Lindsey Location: Elkhart on May 22, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Euthasizing pets is illethical. Just because an animal is unwanted,unneeded,and unloved is no reason for them to be stricken of life. The St. Joseph Humane Society is a no-kill animal shelter, they keep and care for every single pet they are given regardless until that pet can be adopted. The Humane Soceity is a great non-profiet organization and I'm sure they are trying their best to uphold the standard of care for these animals. But, without the adaquate supplies and space available the society is going to have issues. It's not the fault of the Humane Society or its workers or the animals. If its anyone's fault it is the community's. They need more support and donations from us to care for these pets. The majority of a pet's stay in the shelter comes from donations. They live off of donations! So, please don't think poorly of the St. Joseph Humane Society, think of the poor animals there that need your help. Your support.

Posted by: Roxann Location: South Bend IN on May 22, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Animals are a gift to us from God. We need to take care of them as such. This world is a "throw away" place. You don't want something, you throw it out, including animals. People do not need to buy or get a pet if they do not feel they can take care of them for the long term. Dogs live until they're 13, 14 years old and cats sometimes longer. You don't want that responsibility, then don't get one. These animals are the victims of people who don't care. If you have a pet, get it fixed at 6 months or keep the animals inside or in a fenced back yard. This country does not need anymore animals that are not cared for. As far as the situation at the humane society, all of us that find it as a sad situation, attempt to get them cages for these cats, volunteer time to work with the animals, go to "dogsrule.com" and send bags of dog/cat food to the society. BUT, do something. I cannot physically help, but I do what I can financially. Just HELP. Walk the Talk not just TALK.

Posted by: Yeah Right Location: SBN on May 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Carol Ecker Is BUSTED!!! This kind of reminds me of the stories we see every now and then about the little old lady with some sort of mental problems, that will have a whole house full of animals.

Posted by: Chaz Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Tough choice to make. It would be nice if they could get a new building but like a jail, we'll always fill it up to capacity faster than we think.

Posted by: Pat Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Often we see our elected officials and people in power from around the area talk about the pet overpopulation problem, but all they ever do is talk. Where is the low cost spay and neuter for dogs in this area? In Indianapolis you can get your dog fixed for $20 at the FACE Clinic (www.facespayneuter.org). Much of the problem in the area seems to be that people can not afford the $200 it normally costs to Spay/Neuter a pet. Last year alone FACE had 10,000 animals in Indianapolis come in. From 1999-2007 they have done over 91,000 animals, and dropped the euthanasia rate from 22,000 a year down to just over 14,000 a year. It obviously works. You just need an elected official to do something about the problem, rather than constantly talk about it.

Posted by: Spay and Neuter Your Pets Location: Niles, MI on May 22, 2008 at 10:01 AM
This story is a Catch 22. While it is good to bring stories like this to light, the long term ramifications may not be such a great thing. The conditions are deplorable and need to be changed, but if the angry reactions of the public are to stop donating to, or refuse to adopt from, the Humane Society, who is that ultimately going to hurt? The animals who are already suffering, that's who. They'll just keep piling up because no one is adopting them, and if the funds dry up because of a decrease in donations as a result of this story, how are the animals going to be fed and taken care of? Removing this woman may seem like the solution, but who's going to do this job for free, full time? There are an awfully large amount of empty buildings and blighted property around Michiana. I don't see people stepping forward to donate them, either. It seems that this woman needs to change her way of thinking (and her people skills), in addition to finding somewhere else for this facility to locate.

Posted by: pajina Location: indiana on May 22, 2008 at 09:31 AM
I dont think animals should be put down just because they cant find a home, and no they shouldn't have to live like that but animals have feelings too! I think they need to build a bigger humane society.

Posted by: Sue Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 09:22 AM
Let's all look at the quality of life these poor animals have, being kept in crates for the rest of their lives. I mean THAT is why they call it the HUMANE society in that we keep them HUMANELY or euthanize them when adoption becomes unlikely. This Ecker woman is a real control freak and someone needs to get her out of there. It's too bad all these animals suffer because of her!!

Posted by: M on May 22, 2008 at 08:41 AM
I agree totally about not killing poor defenseless animals. There has to be a solution out there to help all these precious creatures. We are a wealth community why can't some of the wealthier people step up and help. If I had monies I would be right there helping out where I could..Wake up people and help take care of these poor animals

Posted by: Jason Location: Elkhart on May 22, 2008 at 08:20 AM
Eckert labels as "lazy" those who blew the whistle on her. She and the worker interviewed both speak of euthanasia "lightening the load" and "putting in the extra hours to make this work". I suspect those who view euthanasia as more humane given the limited facility are branded "lazy" and ostracized. This winnowing of dissidents has yielded a culture of like-minded people, and a deplorable set of conditions that will not soon be remedied. I hope the irony of keeping animals alive in such conditions under the banner of humane treatment is not lost on the public.

Posted by: Ecker Fan Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 08:13 AM
I completely understand what Dr. Ecker is doing and I respect her enormously. This woman really cares about animals, it is in her heart and in her actions. I know from my personal experience and interactions with her. There is so much more about her that is not printed here. I don't know any other vet/person that would be willing to take on the jobs she has done. I know that when I've called the HS about an injured/lost animal that the response since she has taken over has been million times better than before. If it is outside their jurisdiction, they gave me the correct number to call. Before it was like leaving a message in a bottomless pit. The "former" employees are bitter. I'm sure they were let go for a reason! Investigate that!

Posted by: Jim Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:03 AM
Ryan,You stopped short of completing this story. Once you found out that there was no intention or physical abuse,it became a luke warm issue of philosophy. The question now becomes, what happens to an animal that is caged for that period of time. After a period of time in a cage,does the animal lose its ability to socialize with a new family, thus supporting euthanasia.Or is it possible it can it still become a functional pet supporting Dr. Eckers philosphy. It would've helped to interview someone to answer this question to make sense to form an opinion of the need for change. Without this it is hard to form an opinion on the issue.

Posted by: Wow, WDNU betrayal on May 22, 2008 at 07:47 AM
Ecker going to fox for the adopt-a-pet program. Ouch.

Posted by: SS Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 07:36 AM
2 years ago, a stray had kittens in my shed. I found homes for 5 kittens but could not find homes for the mother and 1 remaining kitten. I took them to the Humane Society. 4 months later, I had to go look for a lost cat for a relative. The cat I had taken previously was still there, along with her kitten. They were together in a very small cage and the mother cat had begun to turn white from stress. I have regretted putting that cat there every day since then. It would have been kinder to leave her as a stray. There is a serious cat problem in my neighborhood, even though the Humane Society has been called several times. They are spending money to house these current animals in horrible conditions, which makes them unwilling to take any more. Why not start some kind of amnesty programs, to adopt animals without fees? Even if the shelter does not recoup the costs of shots and spay/neuter, it will cost less in the long run and prevent the cruelty.

Posted by: T. Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 07:28 AM
If you check out the tax records, the last 2 pages give the name, addresses and phone numbers of ALL the board members. Try contacting board members that way rather than thru that GREEDY LIAR Dr. Carol Ecker or co-crook Nancy Deneen. Is there a way to get a list of all the former employees? Maybe thru her high-priced "I'm going to sue you, if you open your mouth" attorney Peter Agostino.

Posted by: Swati Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 06:48 AM
Also, if you were informed that St.Joe HS was overcrowded, you should've approached the dir. & asked if you could do a story about the problem, which would hopefully encourage the community to donate & adopt and not give up their animals so quickly. From a Marketing background and career - I think Dr. Ecker did a good job at not taking any blame and instead, placed the blame appropriately - the community & lack of donations/funds. That's probably the best part about your story - letting the community know what they have been 'causing'. Good job on that one and if that was your intention, well done. sorta.

Posted by: Swati Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 06:43 AM
I am very disappointed w/ your story.Instead of doing the story to send the appropriate message to the community about, adopting, donating, not giving up animals so quickly - you Mr. Ryan, depicted St.Joe HS in a completely negative light.The above messages were ofcourse mentioned but u made an honorable job that the staff and dir. does at the St.Joe HS into something very negative. I adopted my 2nd dog from the shelter 2mos ago.Rhea was at the shelter for over 1.5yrs,she was their longest resident and I am very happy that they did not euthanize her.And the dir. personally came out to thank me for adopting Rhea as she's been homeless for so long. I also in college a few yrs ago,did a Mkt.Research on them, and you know the biggest misconception St. Joe community had about them, was that they euthanized-which is why they were not donating or adopting. That's why they are so overcrowded. You should've done the story from a PROBLEM-SOLVING angle(encouraging help)instead of UNDERCOVER.

Posted by: Kes Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 06:37 AM
I also used to work at the SJCHS, but I had to leave because of a back problem that made it so i couldn't walk by the end of the day and the fact that I couldn't stand Carol. When I worked there, the entire staff kept a lookout for Mrs. Ecker because she always found something that we could be doing wrong. We all worked very, very hard, but there aren't very many people employed there and the work is back breaking. Whenever Carol came in, those of us in back had to stop what we were doing and do it all Carol's way, even if however we were doing the task did it better. I loved working at the shelter and I would do it again if I could, but only if Carol were no longer there. I can't tell you how many night I would cry from working so hard and taking a momentary break to ease my back only to get scolded for being lazy. Not a one of us were.

Posted by: Cry on May 22, 2008 at 05:46 AM
"Dr. Ecker may have forgotten she was wearing a microphone, when whispering to her employees in the corner of the treatment room, as we followed her from the previous room. "Where'd you put the cats?" she asked, in a hushed voice we did not hear in person, that sounded like it came out of the corner of her mouth. She then continued on with the tour."

Posted by: Ryan Famuliner Fan on May 22, 2008 at 05:26 AM
Thank you again for doing this, Ryan and WNDU. I have never worked at HS, but know people who have and do. As mentioned in the Part 1 comments, I have seen things and dealt with the abuse when trying to offer help. The opposition to euthanasia reasoning is simply a crock. It may be true for periods of time until the director loses it and goes on what they call the "warpath" indescriminantly putting down large amounts of animals at one time for no apparent reason. The current director may very well have given many years of service to animals in our community, but if that service is now doing more harm than good, it is time that she step down. Whatever brought them into the shelter in the first place, it is her responsibility to shelter them (not warehouse them) humanely. I urge anyone who hasn't yet, to go to Part 1 and read the comments. Can this many people be wrong? The accusations about the dog park, surgeries, and money are incomprehensible. This is no way to go no-kill.

Posted by: A former Humane Society volunteer Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 05:19 AM
The shelter looked a LOT cleaner on the news last night than it typically does on a day-to-day basis. I have gone in there when the cat litter boxes were literally soupy with waste and the dog cages had several days worth of waste. The air in there was so foul that particular day it was hard to breath. I have also witnessed animals in those horribly cramped quarters fighting. When this was brought to the attention of the shelter workers, nothing would be done to separate the animals. The conditions at the shelter are nothing but animal abuse. Pet water dishes would routinely be empty or so fouled with debris to be undrinkable. Few people realize that the cats never get out of their tiny cages their entire time in the Shelter, even if that means months. The Shelter needs to be held accountable and stopped. Animals do not deserve this. This needs to be stopped.

Posted by: wayne on May 22, 2008 at 04:43 AM
Oh ! come on, Dr Ecker who do you think your fooling. There will always be the problem of to many animals because thats the way the public is. You need to follow like the other shelters and put the animals down. I love cats but there is a limit.Your either that stupid or your using the animals for profit on the side. If we send letters through the shelter to the directors they will never reach the proper party because you will intercept them and destroy them. You must think that the public is awful dumb. what scam are you pulling ?

Posted by: Mariah Location: Bremen on May 22, 2008 at 03:12 AM
It is sooo great to see this coming out.St. Joe County, thanks to Dr. Ecker, is no longer a pet friendly county and if the shelter was an individual...its animals would be removed due to complaints. Yes, they need a new building but how many 1000's of dollars have been spent on archetects plans in the last 30 years and STILL no shelter? Dig deeper WNDU there's still more that needs to be aired!!!

Posted by: Disgusted Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Carol is such a joke. I don't even know how she can live with herself!!

Posted by: Laura Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 12:34 AM
I am a new employee at the Humane Society of St. Joseph County. There are certainly too many animals in too small a space. We are doing the best we can with what we have. The citizens of this county need to step up and come up with the funds so desperately needed for a bigger and better shelter. The Humane Society building is full of perfectly healthy companion animals that have been abandoned by society. Who wants to choose which ones get to live or die? The homeless shelters are full of perfectly good humans who find themselves lost as well. Shall we euthanize them too? Dr. Ecker needs cash, not critcism.

Posted by: hey Ecker! on May 22, 2008 at 12:19 AM
You were caught lying. No doubt about it!

Posted by: LA Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Dr. Ecker doesn't seem to be all there. I think she is a sandwich short of a picnic! Our humane society needs a major overhaul, including management! " Where did ya put the cats". What a mess!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 22, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Great segment...I'm glad to see that Director Carol Ecker was caught in some of her own lies. Maybe this goes to show that the ex-employees were not disgruntled after all, but were voicing some very serious concerns. We all need to help in getting a new director for the animals well-being. Also, a dog park without animal remains might be a top priority for dog owners.


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