Who's Watching the Animals? Part 1
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St. Joseph County, IN
Posted: 11:36 PM May 20, 2008
Last Updated: 11:55 AM Nov 6, 2008
Reporter: Ryan Famuliner
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Many of us are passionate when it comes to the well-being of animals, and one would think animals would be treated the most humanely at the humane society.

But after many told us that wasn't the case right here in St. Joseph County, we launched an investigation, that has lasted for nearly two months.

Earlier this year, we aired a story about the St. Joseph County Humane Society. They were pleading with the public for help in adopting the more than 500 animals they had at the shelter.

That story prompted a flurry of comments from viewers, and many former employees, saying the conditions at the shelter were deplorable.

We contacted many of those who commented, including almost a dozen former employees. Four of them agreed to an interview, but wanted to keep their identities hidden.

They came forward with concerns for the animals' well-being; crammed into a facility built for almost half as many animals.

We looked into the allegations, and here's what we found.

“If we found animals in the conditions that we have them living in at the Humane Society, we would take those people's animals from them,” one former employee said

Some of these employees were fired, some say they left on their own, but all say it was hard to work seeing animals living in the conditions at the Humane Society.

“Better to do it than if they don't. Like putting a cat in a small carrier, you can't let it run around the shelter, that’s what wears down the people,” another former employee said.

They recommended we try to get a real look at the conditions, and said the only way would be to go in undercover.

So we did.

Over a period of two months, we sent a hidden camera through the "quarantine" area of the facility.

Most of the time, the public only sees the "adoption" area.

We saw many of the things we were told about: cages almost anywhere one would fit, many that seemed too small for animals to stay in long term, and a stack of cat carriers with food and water dishes.

It did not appear to be temporary storage.

The former employees gave us some insight.

“All those crates you saw in the treatment room should not exist… That really is supposed to be temporary and it turns into permanent for most of the cats for the duration of while they're there,” a former employee said.

Gail Marsh is the executive director of the Michiana Humane Society in LaPorte County.

We asked her for help interpreting what we found.

“OK this is how they're housing their cats? Are these cats, do you know?” she asked, after she first saw the images our hidden cameras recorded. “This is called warehousing. This is not a humane society, and that's my reaction. You know, having animals living in crates,” Marsh said.

Marsh says they only use carriers in her facility to put animals in for about 20 minutes, while cleaning their cages, and says they should never be in a carrier for more than four hours.

“These are not real cages, this is not acceptable for a humane society,” Marsh said.

Marsh says it is critical for animals in shelters to have room to move about, and have good air flow to avoid the spread of disease, which is a big problem in all humane societies.

And she says this type of atmosphere could only inflate those problems.

We also spoke to a humane society worker at another area shelter, who used to work at the St. Joseph County facility.

They were also upset when seeing the images, and said if they saw something like this in a person's garage, they would take their animals away, and press charges.

In the video, you can also see litter boxes in some of the carriers, which combined with the food and water dishes, seem to take up a good portion of the cat's living space.

That is where some former employees say the legal issues seem blurry.

They point to a county ordinance that says owners are required to make sure their animal is not "confined so as to forced to stand, sit or lie in its own excrement."

Ironically, that ordinance was written by the current director of the St. Joseph County facility.

The Humane Society says they house more than 500 animals, in a building that should hold a maximum of about 300.

“It gives them less care than they need, because you simply don't have the manpower to take care of that on a daily basis, or the supplies for that matter, but also you get sickness and infection,” a former employee said.

The employees say they decided to come forward not out of bitterness, or for revenge, but for the sake of the animals still at the facility.

“While it may look like some disgruntled employees going on about things, the implications are farther reaching,” a former employee said.

Other local humane societies use euthanasia to control their populations, and say it is unfortunate, but necessary to operate efficiently.

At the St. Joseph County Humane Society, they make a point to avoid using euthanasia.

In Part Two of the series, we will talk to the director of the St. Joseph County facility, who says it is better to have huge amounts of animals in small quarters than to put them down.

We will also look closer at how humane societies are run, including the use of euthanasia, and tell you what the St. Joseph County Humane Society says needs to be done to solve the overpopulation problems.


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Posted by: Candy Location: LaPorte on Aug 20, 2008 at 11:52 PM
While it is sad to see so many animals in such a small space,it does force us to look at how many animals do end up in shelters at any given time.I doubt anyone at the shelter feels this is the ideal situation,but we ask shelter workers to clean up societies mess every day.We are outraged at the fact that these animals are kept in "close quarters".Shouldn't we be more outraged that we do not yet have laws that require pets to be altered? Breeders should be licensed,and only produce animals that are bred to the breed standard.We are now a nation of animal lovers like never before.We spend as a nation millions on our pets every year,yet we feel the best we can do for unwanted pets is to kill them? Maybe instead of getting angry at someone who takes a stand and will not end a life simply out of convenience,we could help by pushing for better laws to prevent animal surplus,foster a pet if possible.Or maybe it's really as the saying goes,"What the eyes don't see,the heart can't grieve over."

Posted by: Barbara Location: Osceola on Jul 31, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Call Sheriff Joe.

Posted by: Sean Location: Mishawaka on Jul 31, 2008 at 01:01 AM
Wow! I am just learning of all these revelations which I could have forseen years ago and in all honesty warned many before my character was abolished by Dr. Ecker and team. I met Gail Marsh years ago when I was director at the shelter. In fact I went to visit her then new shelter facility to assist her in implementing our then reputable protocol with general shelter and animal cruelty investigation and control protocols. Sad how years later Marsh sees a failed HSSJC from what was once so progressive. Shame on you Dr. Ecker!

Posted by: Dolores Location: Osceola on Jul 29, 2008 at 10:14 AM
YOUR ARTICLES ARE VERY INTERESTING BUT THEY SEEM TO PUT ALL THE BLAME ON THE HUMANE SOCIETY. WHY ISN'T THE TV STATION OR NEWSPAPER SAYING MORE ABOUT THE REAL VILLIANS HERE THE PEOPLE WHO LET THEIR PETS REPRODUCE CONSTANTLY!!! wHY DON'T VETERINARIANS OFFER SOME FREE CLINICS TO SPRAY OR NUETER OWNERS ANIMALS OR AT LEAST SOME LESS EXPENSIVE CLINICS. WHY IS THEIR NOT SOME MONEY PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY TO HELP THEM OUT. MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE AN EUTHANASIA DAY AND LET THE PUBLIC COME AND DO THE JOB OF KILLING ALL THE ANIMALS THAT ARE CAUSING THE OVERPOPULATION. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MOST OF THE COMMENTS POSTED SEEM TO BE AGAINST THE DR. IN CHARGE. I DON'T KNOW HER BUT I BELIEVE HER CONCERN IS FOR THE ANIMALS OR ELSE SHE WOULDN'T SPEND HER DAYS IN THAT SMELLY, OVERPOPULATED PLACE

Posted by: Jay Location: Granger on Jul 2, 2008 at 01:38 PM
Sound Familiar:Aniaml Hoarding as defined by Humane Society of the United States: Hoarding describes the situations in which individuals have unusually large numbers of animals and cannot provide minimal standards of care.In nearly all cases animals are found dead or in extremely poor health. Hoarders often deny that they cannot care for these animals and do not acknowledge the impact of their actions on the animals or human members of the household. The behavior has serious health implications, including the spread of zoonotic diseases. many, if not most hoarding cases involve high levels of environmental ammonia. Public health hazards, combined with animal welfare issues can escalate a hoarding case into a disaster.

Posted by: C.R.G Location: Mishawaka on May 27, 2008 at 11:17 PM
They dont have to pay to cool it because all they use to cool it is fans.And the heat is not on alot because its on 60.So before you start on how much it cost you should know what your talking about.I do because Ecker told me how much it cost and they have plenty of money to run it and to save for the new shelter. Ecker is just trying to get awhole lot of money because she changes the plans to the new building every month. When all she has to do is make it big enough to fit all the animals. But no she wants top line stuff that cost alot of money and the more she waits the more the price goes up.And now the poor animals are suffering and dieing because she wants a building people will remember her by and love her.When really she drove the humane society into the ground.I dont even call them the humane society.I just wish all of you worked there and talked with Ecker like I did.I use to work real close to her and did everything she wanted.But when i said no one time she got really mad.

Posted by: Gigi Location: Minnesota on May 27, 2008 at 11:13 PM
I know emotions run high about pets, but a little maturity and decorum might help get the problems addressed. You may not agree with someone's ideas but that is not an excuse to abandon civilized discourse. Accusing someone of theft is serious as is character assassination and the allegation that a person can ruin you - what, do they have voodoo magic? Check out the facts yourself- I did and found that adoption fees can be as high as $100 if an animal has been fixed and had all shots. You could have a lower adoption fee and a higher vet bill, because as a pet owner you WILL spend money to take your pets to the vet. The humane society is trying to clean up society's thoughtless and selfish messes , if you want to help volunteer your time or money. I do not live in IN anymore and I am non too proud of Hoosiers after reading many of these posts.

Posted by: Get a clue Location: Mishawaka on May 27, 2008 at 03:15 PM
Response to common sense. Unfortunately when you run a not for profir organization you have to use the money you have when you have it. The fact that there is plenty of money to be taking care of those animals properly and they are not using it is definately a misappropriation of funds. Think before you type.

Posted by: common sense Location: reality, IN on May 27, 2008 at 12:15 PM
You people obviously don't have a clue as to what it costs to maintain a building that is 10K (that's thousand, for those of you that don't know) square feet. Think about the building expense alone - definitely close to $3M to $4M (that's million, by the way). Figure in the cost to heat it, cool it, maintain it, staff it, etc. and they $2M that they have saved up isn't nearly enough money. Maybe they don't have $120K in investment income? Maybe they are reinvesting it like the rest of us that actually are smart enough to save for the future and not live off of everything we have today? Maybe Dr. Ecker wants a clinic in the new shelter so that they can do their own spay/neuter on all adopted animals since owners aren't responsible enough to do it themselves? Maybe that's why all the local vets hate her, because she's going to be taking money out of their pockets by providing this service in-house? Maybe you guys don't know all the facts and are just being emotional and impulsive?

Posted by: Get a Clue. Location: Mishawaka on May 26, 2008 at 07:16 PM
This is to anyone defending Dr. Ecker. You are completely blind to what type of person she is. She will be your best friend as long as you do things her way. Don't disagree, then she will threaten you with what means most to you and discard you like a piece of trash. Unfortunately you will probably have to experience it until you will get aclue. Good luck!

Posted by: R and S Location: Mishawaka on May 26, 2008 at 10:27 AM
All I can say is...what happened to the Humane Society at the Memorial Day Parade? If they wanted to get more money they should at least be willing to be involved in community activities. For those of you that say fundraisers are the solution...don't you think they would get more funds if they were involved in the community activities?

Posted by: Kathleen Location: South Bend on May 26, 2008 at 07:58 AM
I must say, the amount of utterly inaccurate information being posted in this "conversation" would be laughable if it weren't so potentially dangerous. Before you believe these negative comments, take a trip down to the Humane Society and have a RATIONAL conversation with them. $300 adoption fee? False. Fencing requirements? False. Too strict adoption requirements? False. Adopting animals from shelters and ensuring that all your pets are spayed/neutered is the only real way to positively impact the problem of pet overpopulation in our area. Spreading misinformation because you (apparently) have an ax to grind against one person does nothing but create drama. Working with the Humane Society to correct any existing problems requires actual work, not just empty words.

Posted by: Wondering Location: St Joe Cty on May 25, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Wondering if Ecker is more crooked than the Snyders of Roseland...Where is all that money going?? And she is untouchable? Sound REALLY shady to me!

Posted by: Ann Location: South Bend on May 24, 2008 at 03:12 PM
To Tom of Leesburg: I am compassionate for all human beings. I cry at all the suffering in this world & the tragedies. I, also, am compassionate for animals & cry for their suffering. They are NOT useless. They feel pain & loneliness, just, like we humans do. Animals bring love & joy to cancer patients & the elderly, etc. There are guide dogs for the blind, who, also, give them companionship. Animals help the handicapped...paraplegics, arthritis sufferers, etc. There are hundreds of thousands of people who live alone. Their pets give them joy, keep them from feeling lonely, someone to come home to, especially, the elderly. They give their lonely owners a reason to live. They give the sick a reason to get well. If a person cannot have compassion for animals, they cannot have compassion for human beings. People who mistreat animals, mistreat human beings. I could go on. YOU ARE sound like a very disturbed person.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 24, 2008 at 01:36 PM
I care about anmials more then people because alot of times there are more people that care about other people and dont care if someone killed a dog or cat.I think that if u kill an animal you should go to jail for life and then death!!!

Posted by: A Location: Mishawaka on May 24, 2008 at 01:01 PM
I was astounded by this news story. I agree with Doctor Eckert in the fact that the public needs to admit responsibility for their animals, but that was disgusting. I think that if they made their adoption process more people friendly, there would be less of an issue. I adopted my cat from the HS several years ago, and I felt it was pretty evasive. the one thing that they said I had to change was that I had put that I would give the cat to a friend or family member if I was unable to care for him. They said I had to return him to the HS if I couldn't care for him. Can you blame me for not wanting to after this story? I won't even attempt to try to adopt a dog from the HS due to the fact that I don't have a fenced yard. So basically they would rather the dog live in squalor than with an unfenced yard. Doesn't make sense to me! besides, who wants to be made to feel like a criminal when you are just trying to do something good?

Posted by: Lisa Location: Mishawaka on May 24, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Tom-you suck!!! You are obviously an animal hater! Animals are Gods creatures too you loser. Don't visit this blog if you aren't willing to help.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM
I agree with the employee, the staff turnover rate is very high. They can't seem to keep anyone. They have lost all the experienced staff, people who knew how to care for and handle the animals. Even Humane Officers are inexperienced, they used to be professional, know what they were doing, now they hire anyone who is willing to work there. They state they want mature attitudes when people apply for employment there, however, they hire school kids who can only do the job part time for minimum wage. When a certain employee complained that they had to watch the young employees whilst they were doing their duties, because animals were not being handled, cleaned or cared for properly, they were simply told "They're school kids, what do you expect, give them a break"!! Also, officers that are out on the streets have no dispatch, when they radio in, you never get a response, they send you into volatile address's, then ignore you when you try to radio in.

Posted by: employee Location: Mishawaka on May 24, 2008 at 10:15 AM
I said they "trained" you there to do the chips. How many times would it take you to get it down with no Medical Schooling? Should you be injecting needles/chips with no Medical Schooling? It takes a few times of trying before you can poke an animal and it not feel it or minding........the turn over rate there is VERY HIGH......

Posted by: Tom Location: Leesburg on May 24, 2008 at 09:48 AM
I haven't read much of this article or many of the postings about. But I have to say, that with all the suffering HUMAN BEINGS are going through around the world in Myanmar and China just to mention the most obvious, also all around us accidents, people being murdered, barely able to get by financially etc., that it disturbs me this article about unwanted stray animals would attract so much attention. I think our society has a very frightening attitude of self loathing that we would rather let our emotions get all worked up over a bunch of useless animals than be concerned for our own kind. A very, very disturbing trend.

Posted by: Pet Lover Location: Porter/LaPorte Co on May 24, 2008 at 09:12 AM
For people who won't get their cats spayed/neutered because of the cost, there is a wonderful resource out there that you should take advantage of: The Neuter Scooter http://www.neuterscooter.com If you schedule an appt online, it is $40 to get your cat spayed/neutered and this includes shots! For dog owners who need their dog spayed/neutered, please call your vet and ask if they will set up a payment plan to make it more affordable. Remember, it usually costs less the smaller the dog... so get your puppy fixed as young (small) as possible and that will save you money in the long run. PLEASE don't breed or buy while homeless die... find your next pet at a shelter or rescue group. http://www.petfinder.com

Posted by: animal care worker Location: Osceola on May 24, 2008 at 12:18 AM
The only time an animal bleeds or screams from the implantation of a microchip is if it is being done WRONG!!!!! I have been implanting microchips for some 10 years now. It should definately not hurt. It is given just like a shot. Most animals won't even notice you are doing anything.

Posted by: Lisa Whiteman Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 08:16 PM
When I had my cat microchipped at my vets office, they numbed the area first with a little injection. That really helped, she hardly flinched. This can be done humanely, but obviously not by the "humane" society! Ugh!!!

Posted by: Mazie Location: Bremen on May 23, 2008 at 07:22 PM
My own vet told me that he could tell me horror stories about the HS. They have found working with Dr. Ecker a nightmare also. She is right and nobody else. And yet they threatened me when I called to see if they had a report of a lost dog that we had found. I was told that I needed to bring the dog in right away, because if someone was looking for her, I could be arrested for keeping an animal that belonged to someone else. I told the lady to bite me, that I was taking the dog to my vet for a checkup and to check for a chip (there was no chip). I really did not want 3 dogs, since I already had 2. But we kept her and nursed her back to health. I wonder where she would be now if I had taken her to the HS as ordered to. Dr. Ecker is not an animal lover. She has a long running reputation for not being good to animals. Why do you think there are so many complaints about her personally? Get her out of there and get someone in there who can take care of these animals!

Posted by: Skeptic Location: IN on May 23, 2008 at 06:18 PM
Do you really think you can stop her. If they kick her out she'll still have clout on the board. The board members are a spineless bunch of crooks with money. Do you have money to fight Ecker? Did you see the mayor on TV today? He's not going to do anything without pressure from the public. She a strong republican-that will be another pressure she can apply. They are going to wait until this all dies down (like all the times before), then it will be the same old same old. I've talked to some friends in NY they will cover things if the public makes enough noise to make it worthwhile (then everyone will probably jump on the bandwagon). Now I guess it is up to you, John Q. Public, not the "lazy, disgruntled ex-employees" or even WNDU. True animal lovers might be able to make a difference. I'm waiting to see how serious you guys really are.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 23, 2008 at 04:35 PM
Gosh that just makes me cringe!!! I am going to go to our vet and get her checked for it and then I am going to register the chip because IF by any chance something would happen to my baby girl I sure's the heck wouldn't want her to go back to that nasty place. Thanks for the info. :)

Posted by: former employee Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 03:56 PM
They inject the chips with giant needles (like a shot) into their back, like between the shoulder blades. They would teach you how (if you wanted to, which I wanted no part of) to do it at the shelter, you practiced on the animals till ya got it right. Yup, sometimes it got bloody and yes, it hurts like hell!!! Many animals cry out in pain, some even try to bite you. Which I don't blame them!!! If it's not placed right, it will float around in your animal. Have you Vet scan your pet, if it has a chip, it will show up.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 23, 2008 at 03:08 PM
They use a microchip needle, its the size of a grain of rice, it's inserted between the animals shoulder blades usually, however, the chip can migrate around the body given time. take your cat to any vet and ask them to scan for the chip.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 23, 2008 at 02:37 PM
So how do they put the chip in and how do I really tell that there is really one in her?

Posted by: Anonymous on May 23, 2008 at 12:49 PM
I agree, Ryan has only hit the tip of the iceberg, there's so much more, it's a domino effect, one thing has led to another. It's obvious that criminal charges are next, especially after reading about her other activities. Dig deeper Ryan, there's a much bigger story to uncover yet.

Posted by: To Lucy on May 23, 2008 at 12:45 PM
It doesn't make any difference if they made the mistakes on the paperwork regarding the gender of your cat. That microchip number is all they need, if you tell them it isn't the same cat, they will know by the unique chip number. The best thing to do is to get the chip registered directly to you. A lot of people take found animals to a vet to get it scanned, if it's chipped to the HS and you have to call there for owner info, they will insist that you take the pet to them in order for the owner to find it. This will incure financial charges for the owner when they go to pick up their lost pet. My cat also stays inside the house, but there's always that chance that they just may get out, I found my cat sat in my back yard once, the dog had managed to open the door, I have a 6 ft privacy fence that keeps my dogs in, but it wouldn't keep my cat from straying into the neighborhood. All my pets are chipped directly to me.

Posted by: former employee Location: Mishawaka on May 23, 2008 at 11:44 AM
I wonder how the "emergency board meeting" went last nite? I hope WNDU doesn't stop here. There is so much more to uncover still. You have just hit the tip of the iceberg!!

Posted by: ex employee on May 23, 2008 at 11:38 AM
PETA won't/can't do anything.I contacted them back in Jan.(among many others)and that is what they told me.I'm guessing the politicians don't care cause it's "just animals" that are being abused and neglected.How else has Carol gotten away with what she's doing for so long?It's up to the people now.All my complaints got written off as a "disgruntle employee" It's out there in the public now, PLEASE DO SOMETHING!!!I did a lot of work trying to get this out in the open,to the public.I have since moved away due to I coulnd't find a job around there thanks to the HS black balling me for standing up for the animals.I have my own horror story with a kitty I adopted from there with Carol and her medical practices.I've written many people about that story as well and NOBODY seems to care.Carol lied and everybody believed her.Even though I had a medical bill from a REAL VET after Carol butchered my sweet baby girl!!!And witnesses.Please don't let my efforts go to waste,I'm begging you people!

Posted by: Re: Michelle - HSUS on May 23, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Good blog from HSUS...I think this says it all: "But "No-Kill" as an outcome cannot be universally expected to occur overnight, and it cannot succeed without multi-pronged efforts by committed communities. Its conscientious backers recognize that. It's simple mathematics. If euthanasia is not occurring and intake of dogs and cats is significantly exceeding adoptions, then overcrowding and warehousing—and the attendant suffering—are the undesirable and also unacceptable outcomes. Or if shelters close their doors to animals in need, then the problem is just being pushed off to someone or someplace else, with euthanasia the likely outcome and with the fundamental dynamics essentially left unchanged. On the other hand, we must not accept routine euthanasia as a social norm. We should raise expectations and set aggressive goals, but recognize that shelters can't do it without community engagement at every step." As a society, we have to come together and do something. We just have to.

Posted by: Michelle Location: Washington, D.C. on May 23, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Please visit this link for HSUS CEO, Wayne Pacelle's response to the very inaccurate Newsweek article- http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2008/04/newsweek-nokill.html.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 23, 2008 at 10:28 AM
How do you even know if the HS REALLY did put a chip in my kitty? How do they do it? Where does it go? She was so tiny when we got her and I never saw anywhere on her that looked like they implanted a chip. Plus they told us they just got the kittens in that week before. I think they just filled my head with a bunch of lies. So if I take her to her vet he will be able to tell if she really has one or not? Maybe I should register it-if some freak accident would to happen and she got out I would NOT want her to go back to that hell-hole!

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 23, 2008 at 09:52 AM
To "posted by: To Lucy" The reason I didn't register the chip is because she's a cat that NEVER goes outside-it doesn't even faze her with the door open for a minute or two-she doesn't even try to dart out. I would NEVER want my kitties outside-there are too many stray cats in my neighborhood that are probably full of diseases. So I am happy to say they're house cats that run through the house and enjoy their time on my screened-in front porch. Didn't think it was necessary anyways-I was also afraid they would track her down and try and steal her because they always tell you when you adopt from there that they can come and take the animal away whenever they want. Well, this way they have no proof she was adopted from that shelter and I'm actually glad now for that reason that her paper work was all wrong. It is in my baby girl's best interest that she is in my loving home. :)

Posted by: To Mary on May 23, 2008 at 09:46 AM
Unfortunately Mary, you are mistaken about PETA just as some are about HSUS. Please take a look at this article: http://www.newsweek.com/id/134549. They do believe in euthanasia and practice it often. Many have already asked for them help. I think they would be appalled at the current living conditions at HS, but will only say what they have already said, that it is up to us as a community to do something about it. Can anyone say Roseland? This won't be easy or pretty. We have to keep fighting for what is best for the animals. You might note the mention of Nathan Winograd in the article. A lot of no-kill efforts are following in his lead. With the pet population as high as it is right now, I have to disagree that there are enough homes for all of them, but he does offer some alternatives and ideas. The animals will NEVER be treated any better under the current management. That is where we have to start, but it can't end there. We have to make animal welfare a priority.

Posted by: Mary Location: SB on May 23, 2008 at 08:24 AM
Sarah, you think that calling in PETA will get the animals killed? Are you kidding? PETA doesn't advocate for an animals death, they advocate for their LIFE! --Very unlike what the humane society is doing.

Posted by: Shannon Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I know Carol. I love animals and rescued a greyhound for the simple fact that I knew the animal would be put down had I not offered it a home after her racing career. After many wonderful years, (both hers and mine) it was in HER BEST INTEREST to put her down. Is it in these animals best interest to be kept in small kennels where they sleep in their feces and urine?? If no one is adopting, and things are overwhelming, do the ANIMAL JUSTICE and put it in a BETTER place than a crate. I had after eight years which doesn't make it easy but had to ask myself, am I keeping her alive for myslef, or for her?? Who's best interest do I have in mind? Who's best interest does Carol have in mind? Her own? How does she sleep at night on her nice farm? Why doesn't she take some cats there? There is plenty of room..... or is she really "concerned" about he wealfare of these animals? I think not.

Posted by: TO ASHLEY WADDELL Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 09:28 PM
You know better than that!! For someone who had a nice cozy job in a little office shuffeling paperwork, answering the phone and talking to volunteers, you certainly think you have some insight. You never went into the back of the shelter, remember how the smell made you want to vomit? Remember how upset you used to get looking at the poor animals, how you yourself openly admit your opposition to euthenasia? You never had to clean those kennels, those tiny cat carriers or have anything whatsoever to do with quaratined animals, you never had to medicate the masses, you never dealt with the troubled animals, the ones with temperment issues, you were scared of most of the dogs there.

Posted by: To Lucy on May 22, 2008 at 08:52 PM
It is much better for you and your pet if you call the micro-chip company and have the pet registered directly to you. If you don't, someone may find your dog, get it scanned, dog is registered to HS, then they return the dog to them. If your own info is on there, you can avoid your pet ever stepping foot in the shelter. Both my dogs are chipped directly to me, I never want my dogs to end up at this shelter, I adopted one of them from there but had the microchip info changed immediately.

Posted by: ex-employee Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:41 PM
The chip is registered in the shelters name and the vet that is put down is carol ecker so if u dont register in your name and the humane society gets ahold of it they wont look for anyone.

Posted by: To Lucy on May 22, 2008 at 06:13 PM
FYI..The chip is probably registered to the HS. That is the way most shelters do it. So, if your cat got lost, then the vet or whoever scanned it would only know to contact them.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 05:49 PM
What if you adopt a pet from there and don't register their chip id thing? Can they even prove that you adopted a pet from there? We never registered ours but guess what, the crook couldn't take my baby away if she tried because their paperwork was all wrong-states the cat is male and it's in fact female. hahahahahah-Carol-you're a real good vet.hahahaha

Posted by: jay Location: mi on May 22, 2008 at 05:24 PM
seriously joseph... calcutta?.... how about a nice hamburger? and americans are weird?!!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 22, 2008 at 05:14 PM
I worked for Eric Durcinka and briefly for Carol Ecker. There's a big difference now in the conditions now than when Eric was director, I remember us getting a couple of cases of puppies coming in with Parvo, but we all made sure all the right steps were taken as to not let any of the other animals contract it. Upon him leaving, the shelter has had many, many cases of parvo, Kennl Cough, upper resp disease, feline Herpes. All these diseases are present because of hoarding, ultimately these animals are going to die of some of these diseases. Euthenasia is necessary is some cases, euthenize a few to save the rest.

Posted by: To ASHELY WADDELL on May 22, 2008 at 05:08 PM
"Anonymous means you're lying"? WOW! Please keep in mind that I PERSONALLY know that she can hurt people by taking their animals, and I didn't want my face shown because SHE KNOWS WHERE I LIVE AND THAT I HAVE ANIMALS. My adopted babies WILL be taken (just like they took others') and I don't want to risk that.

Posted by: joseph Location: elkhart on May 22, 2008 at 04:45 PM
There is a very simple solution to this problem that will also help solve another one. You always see how the Northern Indiana food banks have empty shelves, well I say stock them with cat meat. They are a very lean and healthy meat, also very tasty. I lived in Calcutta for 11 years and cat was a staple to everyone's diet. The American culture that certain animals can be eaten and others cannot does not make any sense what so ever.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 22, 2008 at 03:54 PM
A different animal welfare organization is needed for this community. How can you expect the city of Mishawaka and the County to stop working with SJCHS when they have no other option. There's no competition, I hear the ASPCA is coming to town, hopefully they can take over, or the Mishawaka Mayor can find it in his budget to build they're own shelter, just like south bend did.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: ELKHART on May 22, 2008 at 03:11 PM
ISNT ANIMAL CRUELTY A FELONY? CHECK OUT THE NEWS ARTICLE FROM JACKSON COUNTY MICHIGAN WHERE THEY (THE LOCAL OFFICIALS) CAME AND SEIZED A MANS HERD OF HORSES AND CHARGED HIM WITH A FELONY OF ANIMAL CRUELTY. THEY LATER DROPPED THE CHARGES AFTER THEY SOLD OR KILLED ALL OF THE HORSES. FOLKS, CITY,STATE AND LOCAL GOVTS ARE OUT OF CONTROL WITH MANIACS AT THE WHEEL. WISH US ALL GOOD LUCK!!

Posted by: Former Employee Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 02:07 PM
I was an employee under the directorship of Eric Durcinka. If the shelter had looked the way it does now, Carol would have had our heads. She is the one that told us to euthanize certain animals. She would throw a fit if their was mess anywhere. She designed the rooms called Hilton and hyatt. They were designed for sick cats against one wall so as not to have cats facing one another to spread disease. Now she has cats stuffed in those rooms in cramped spaces. She is a hypocrit by all definitions. Saying one thing and doing another. Hoarding animals and breeding her own to money in her pockets. It's disgusting.

Posted by: anonymous Location: Elkhart on May 22, 2008 at 01:40 PM
A few years ago we wanted to adopt from St Jo and were told that because we would leave the dog outside in a fenced in yard occasionally, we could not have a dog. I was asked if I would leave my kids outside and told if I wouldn't treat the dog like my child I couldn't adopt. Maybe if they would treat the animals like animals and humans like humans we wouldn't have this problem.

Posted by: Diane Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 01:03 PM
You get what you pay for..I would suggest a full time director with a salary. To have a board and/or a president with no term limits does not creates a healthy enviroment. The present state of the Humane Society is proof.

Posted by: Joan Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I wonder why they haven't been adopted? I can't imagaine a cat that has been living in a cage for two years would have any social skills to be adoptable. It's unfortunate becuase in the end, the no-kill shelter will end up killing these animals to clean up the mess.

Posted by: Susan Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I am an avid animal lover and don't want to see any animal euthanized, but why are these animals not adopted? The human society and pet refuge make it so hard. No home is perfect, but at least it's better than living in a cage for two years. Lighten up and let these animals get love and care. Years ago you could go in and adopt a pet same day. Now it takes several days and you have "live up" to their standards and if they don't like it, you lose out. She is no better than the little old lady hoarding 50 cats in a house. Get these animals into good homes.

Posted by: LUCY Location: SOUTH BEND on May 22, 2008 at 12:23 PM
You're kidding right? She seriously performs surgery on animals without anesthesia? OMG!! That is......I can't even say it. My poor baby girl came from there and to think that Ms. "Decker" could've treated her like this makes me want to vomit. I just can't believe it.

Posted by: Ann Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 11:58 AM
What is this woman doing with the $2 million? I do NOT believe, that a proper facility can't be built for that. Why can't a larger facility be purchased & remodeled? Pet Refuge & countless other shelters are non-kill & their conditions are not deplorable. What can we do to get rid of this poor excuse for a human being? She's been involved with this shelter for many, many years & it's always been a nightmare.

Posted by: M Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM
I love that Susan mentioned how Carol is on all of the Commissions, boards, etc. She controls everything and puts herself on everything. She can't be fired but the County of St. Joe, City of Mishawaka, and the small towns could refuse to do business with the. Although, beware, she will send her "thugs". Kenny Ecker, her son, Jim Bernath, Bernie Pickett, and Jeff Gorman. All of her "boys". It would be great justice if finally people wake up and do something.

Posted by: Velma Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 11:36 AM
For those that keep saying the HS needs more money - scrol down and look at my comments from last night. The HS has nearly $2 MILLION dollars for a new building - but Ecker does not think it will be a big enough monument to her. The HS is making $120,000 per year from investment income. So, the plans keep changing. AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND... Mishawaka and the County give over $300,000 a year to the HS. How much more do they want? What city services are we all willing to give up? Are we willing to pay more in taxes? Maybe the building should be built without all the imported tile floors and soaring ceilings and office space designed for corporate executives. USE THE MONEY and build a shelter that will house the most animals as possible. Take some of the funds to underwrite costs of fixing animals and educating the public. This is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!!

Posted by: To Ashley on May 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Ashley, many of us don't leave our names because we are far too aware of what the repercussions might be. Those of us who do want to help and haven't been allowed to, still hold out hope that one day we will be truly able to assist the animals at HS. This will not happen under current management and you very well know it yourself. Not one person is saying not to help the animals. That is the whole point of all of this. Spending time there doesn't equal doing what is right. She is mainly there to assert her control. And, no, I in no way think any animal would choose that kind of tortured life, period. There is a proper way to try and achieve no-kill. This is not it. I know you, and I know some of the former employees. It is not true that they were all fired and you know that as well. This has to be made personal if 1 person is the main problem. The dog park alone is sickening and shows she doesn't give a care about the safety of people's animals. Toxic sludge??!! C'mon!!

Posted by: past employee Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Anybody that works there and/or has anything to do with this shelter and think's that what's going on there is okay, will rot in Hell one day, Hopefully soon!!! You people think all they need is money and a new building and everything will be better? HAHAHA She has the money, it takes her on vacations around the world.... Giving her more money is only lining her pockets people. And giving her another building, would only allow her to do it more. SHE WON'T put nothing down!!!! I'm sorry but living like those animals are living, they are better off dead or running the streets!!! Evil sick people have it better in prison!! What did these animals do to deserve what they are getting there? MOST people that quit, can't take it anymore!! The shelter or Caorl. And MOST people that are fired, are fired for standing up to Carol. She's a bully and bullies EVERYBODY!! Even customers!! She really needs to go and so do all of her "buddies". How those people can sleep at nite, I'll never know.

Posted by: Debbie Lynn Location: Indy on May 22, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Just had this emailed to me. I use to live in Mishwaka. To those who stand up for Carol including Ashley: you really don't know her as well as some of the others do. You're apparently in denial . Maybe you should join some nice cult to worship your next idol. The ONLY reason she wants the names of the people involved is to threaten and sue them.........or maybe slash their tires...take their animals....smash the windshield.... My friend has video of the HS van driving around her house time after time after she quit. The WHOLE BOARD HAS TO GO!

Posted by: LA Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 10:43 AM
I also emailed PETA today with a link to this blog. I hope something can be done about this, and soon. It makes me sick that these helpless animals are "living" in these conditions. I wish I could help them all! Breaks my heart.

Posted by: Ann Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 10:41 AM
May I, also, suggest people send an email to State Senator John Broden & see if we can get some laws on the books regarding Indiana's animal shelters. He, really, cares about the people of Indiana. He's from South Bend. I'm, sure, he would help. His email address is: S10@in.gov. I am sending one, now. P.S. I know someone who volunteered at the SJCHS a few years ago when Eric was there. She worked her butt off to make sure the dogs pens were spotless & they had food & water & took them out to run. When she left, they begged her to stay. It broke her heart, but she could no longer do it.

Posted by: Michele Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 10:26 AM
I think its funny she (Carol) submitted the Board of Directors list. She hand picks them. There is not any democracy there. It is a dictatorship in which she controls. Its a joke about her "unpaid" position. As she controls the Millions that has been donated. Ask her to show you those financials!

Posted by: Ann Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 10:22 AM
I, just, sent an email to PETA from their website & to Ryan at WNDU. Google Peta.org. The one that has been posted on here is in ERROR & gives you a bunch of BS to read. Everyone on here needs to get involved, instead of, just, making suggestions for others to do.

Posted by: ex employee Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 09:55 AM
Part 2, what a joke Carol is. She's a liar and a crook. She tries to play it off like she knows it's a problem but then does nothing about it but make it worse. She says she works for free but come on people, do you REALLY think she's putting in full time hours and getting nothing out of the deal? Giving donations does nothing, trust me. I use to work there. It's all about power with her and her being in total control. She does not care about those animals, just the money and the power of control. Living like that is no life for those animals. And that comment she made about the people that use to work there being lazy?? How untrue. I busted my butt everyday trying to do an impossiable job. When I satyed late, I got yelled at and was told I was to be out by a certain time! I cried every nite after days I worked and I worried about the animals and them not getting the right care when I wasn't there. Like I said, Catol is nothing but a liar and a crook. Hell's address:2506 Grape Rd!!

Posted by: It's about the animals... Location: petting my cat on May 22, 2008 at 09:15 AM
Jen-you must be a personal friend of Carol Ecker! Have you not been reading this blog?!?

Posted by: Kim Location: Argos on May 22, 2008 at 09:01 AM
Jen in Niles.. I'd rather buy a pack of smokes then donate 5 bucks to a woman who admittedly already has 2 MILLION to put towards a better place for the animals. Don't tell me this is not enough money to build on or make changes. You go ahead and keep giving your money and food while this woman continues to hoard animals in squaler in-humane conditions and apparently is also HOARDING YOUR MONEY! Give me a break. This is animal cruelty and she was caught lying on camera. If you can't see OR SMELL the truth... well, they say Ignorance is BLISS! NO kill shelter sounds all warm and fuzzy and wonderful until you see these animals living in cages way to small and never getting out for 2 years. Wake up and smell the urine here. This is NOT a humane 'society'. This is a tragedy operated by a woman with 2 MIL in her pocket and crying for more. ARG! You are donating to a problem, not a solution. Take your $ and make fliers to hand out on responsible pet ownership. Education is the key,notHOARDING

Posted by: Jay Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:42 AM
To Michelle from Washington. Thank you for bringing attention to the fact that there is know organization for the regulation of shelters in Indiana. An organization is in the works and will be up and running in the next couple of months. For those of you that would like to make complaints, please go to their website, INSPCA.org. Start supporting this organization and support the humane treatment of animals.

Posted by: former employee also Location: mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Jen to write what you did shows that you are not paying attention. Hopefully city leaders are paying closer attention than you.

Posted by: Kari Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:15 AM
Spaying and neutering is of course important, but it will not help the animals that are suffering at the shelter right now.

Posted by: Lauren Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 08:11 AM
THE EX-EMPLOYEES ARE LAZY!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? Disgruntled ex employees. More like disgruntled employer!!! The employees left because they didn't want to support your inhumane actions. Any one that cares about animals would not be able to endure those conditions on a day to day basis. Get over yourself Dr. Ecker.

Posted by: Mary Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 08:05 AM
Dr. Ecker needs to practice what she preaches. Dr. Ecker breeds her Dobermans and Corgis. She also has outside dogs and a slew of barn cats. You are part of the overpopulation problem Ecker. Maybe your dogs should be spayed and neutered. I wouldn't suggest doing it on your kitchen table though. I know you like to brag about the fact that you have done that before.

Posted by: A Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 07:36 AM
How can people say it's better to let the cats fun free in the country? They are tame animals and could be ripped to shreds by coyotes, dogs, raccoons etc?

Posted by: Dawn Lovejoy Location: Michiana on May 22, 2008 at 07:22 AM
Is this the same Carol Ecker who's married to Kenny Ecker of Ecker Quarter horses?????? Wow....now I understand why the humane society is the way it is.

Posted by: Channel 16 fan Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 07:17 AM
Ryan & Terry - you guys rock! Thanks for not sugar-coating things and reporting it like it is! Keep up the good work!

Posted by: R and S on May 22, 2008 at 07:00 AM
Please, if you decide to donate to the Humane Society after watching segment 2, donate via check, so that it could be tracked. Too many times have employees and others been seen taking cash from the register for personal use.

Posted by: brenda Location: edwardsburg on May 22, 2008 at 06:34 AM
I tried to adopt 2 cats last year but they wanted to much I think it was $150 each. I went to another facility and they worked out a deal and I got 2 for $75 they just wanted the cats to have a good home.

Posted by: To Jen on May 22, 2008 at 06:15 AM
Jen, I don't know where my money would go if given to HS at this time, so I can't until there is new management and board leadership. Helping the animals with food and time is very noble, please continue. I am one who donates my time to animals every day. The issue is quality of life. After you've been there long enough, you will see that. The director is the only one keeping the new shelter from being built. Yeah, I'm negative. I'm upset that one person is allowed to cause this much suffering to this many animals and be touted as a saint by some. Cats have to stretch. It is a physical requirement, not a luxury. Do you know anything about easily-spread shelter viruses? Do you know that a cat can suffer tremendously and starve to death slowly if they can't smell their food after contacting a URI from one of these viruses? This kind of hoarding only exacerbates the problem. Have you seen a really sick animal there yet? They can't afford the money or time to treat them all.

Posted by: Ashley Waddell Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 06:05 AM
I also have a challenge, if the only thing you are going to do is blog, stop. You’re not helping. IF you really love animals, and want to help, please contact the Humane Society, they need all of the help they can get. Call and ask to help with the foster program, ask to volunteer to take dogs on walks, and ask to help. Don’t make this a witch hunt, the Humane Society would crumble upon itself without the care and leadership Dr. Ecker provides 6 days a week, no less than 10 hours a day and usually more. Did I mention that she does this for $1 a year? That’s right ONE DOLLAR A YEAR. Take ownership in your part of this over population, it does not lie on one woman’s shoulders; this is a community problem, one that only a community can cure. Please, help.

Posted by: Ashley Waddell Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 06:04 AM
They make Dr. Ecker sound like the devil incarnate. WHY if the ANIMALS are the real focus do they continue to bring her into the discussion and SLANDER her good name? THINK!!!! She and I did not always get along, if someone reading this ALWAYS gets along with their boss, never leave your job! IF this story really is about the animals, then FOCUS! This is a community problem; there are too many animals and not enough space. The choice is euthanasia or hours in a carrier, if I am the cat, I choose the latter. And I am not anonymous my name is Ashley Waddell; my mother always told me … “If you have to do it anonymously, you’re lying.” Truer words have never been spoken.

Posted by: Ashley Waddell Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 06:03 AM
I am an ex employee of the Humane Society and I guess I am the only one willing to tell the truth. Those animals are loved and cared for, everyone reading this is buying into the lies of disgruntled ex employees, I haven’t read the whole blog just a few slanderous comments regarding Dr. Ecker. Allow me to enlighten you… the community as a whole has two choices, take responsibility or shut up. Has anyone reading this offered to foster? They have a program, you have to jump through a few hoops and be willing to pay for food, litter, toys and such, but you can do it. Are your pets spayed and neutered? Do you dump on the Humane Society? A litter of kittens and puppies is not a gift you give, they are mouths to feed, house and love. The people that started this are the people that were FIRED they didn’t leave on good terms, and now they want to hurt the animals to get back at there ex boss!!!! This is OUTRAGEOUS!

Posted by: Sue Location: Niles, Mi on May 22, 2008 at 02:12 AM
I was in Carol Ecker's own Corgi breeding facility approximately 33 years ago and it was nothing but a puppy mill. There were a few dogs housed outside with runs, but the majority of these dogs were imprisoned in small indoor pens with little quality of life. Most of them never got outside to sniff fresh air. I am not surprised she has had so little disregard for the quality of life of these shelter animals. She should be ashamed of herself. Did she not take an oath to help animals when she became a vet? She should be removed from the shelter and board immediately.

Posted by: Sarah Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 12:42 AM
(cont)..you could spend you time better by volunteering. Afraid she'll keep the money? Organize a fundraiser, and establish an account at a local bank for donations. Keep it transparent. If she wants your donations, she'll have to follow your rules. In the mean time, you all could pitch in. Taking care of 300 animals requires a lot of man power, 500 requires everyones help. If you have time to sit and complain on here, you have time to help the animals. Calling in peta and drawing all this attention will just serve to get the animals killed quickly. And no, I am not an operative for the SJCHS. I can see past the "Investigation" to what the real problem is, and that is the community, INCLUDING WNDU, using their energy money and resources to trash the place rather than make it better. WNDU, you could have set up a fundraiser rather than trash the people that are actually trying to help. You can get the word out a lot cheaper than SJCHS. Step up to the plate.

Posted by: Peggy Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Wish your report would have mentioned the $50 surrender fee. What happens to the poor pets who can't afford to get in? As reported on Fox 28 by Kara Jacobs, pets are being left behind alone in foreclosed homes. Just one example of how Dr Ecker's good intentions are misguided. Why not take the 2 million and start a low cost spay neuter program Dr. Ecker? What she's doing is trying to empty a river with the a bucket (through adoption only) and it will never make a dent in the problem. What's desperately needed is a director who can work with SBACC to find solutions to the huge numbers that are only getting worse. Dr. Ecker has not shown she can work with other area agencies. It's time for her to step aside and let some new blood take the lead. Peggy

Posted by: Bob Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Get wise Mishawakans, withdraw from the SJCHS and take your tax dollars to form your own Animal Shelter. Thank God, South Bend was wise enough to do this a dozen years ago.

Posted by: Sarah Location: Mishawaka on May 22, 2008 at 12:32 AM
You all are on a witch hunt. Yes, the conditions in the shelter are sometimes less than pleasurable, but this community is just as much at fault. "They don't advertise for fund raising." -- Yes, they do, sign up for their mailing list. It costs a lost of money to advertise where people will actually pay attention to it. I always get information in the mail. "They are sitting on the donations, they can build it now." -- They also need the money to operate a new facility. Building with no funding for the upkeep would be irresponsible. I have always had good experiences with the shelter. My dog only cost $50 and would have been put down at any other shelter. Because of the SJCHS he has had 12 wonderful years in a loving home. You need to place the blame on all wrong doers. Maybe WNDU should have done a story on the jerks that feed the strays and let them multiply. That is where the problem lies. Maybe she could do things better but every one of you that plans on protesting could (cont)

Posted by: anonimous Location: elkart on May 22, 2008 at 12:21 AM
way to go Ryan! Seems you have provided an excellent forum for disgruntled former employees of Dr. Eckert's. It seems to me her big mistake was hiring hyenas, I suppose these former animal caretakers have very succesful careers now. Yeah right..

Posted by: Jill Location: indiana on May 22, 2008 at 12:12 AM
When we moved to south bend we used her for a vet and have her neuter our dog. We have never been back since then. She was disrespectful and rude, she acted like she cared so much about animals. I feel bad thinking that she may have performed surgery on my dog before he was under full anesthesia. It totally breaks my heart. SHE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM HER POSITION AND FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR ANIMAL CRUELITY. THE LAW IS THE LAW AND THERE SHOULD BE NO EXCEPTIONS FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR. TOTALLY INHUMAIN. Also more people would adopt animals from the shelter if you didn't have to go through such a strict adoption screening. It's a rediculous process to try to adopt an animal from there. This is part of the reason for the over crowding at the shelter. Obviously these animals are better off anywhere else than in her care!!!!

Posted by: concerned Location: south bend on May 22, 2008 at 12:10 AM
To Jen.It is wonderful that you donate food and toys to the animal shelter, however if you read one of the previous posts those items are either thrown in the trash or put up for resale. It would be great if the shelter animals actually benefited from them.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 22, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 03:57 PM is doctor Ecker.

Posted by: Wow on May 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM
I think tonight sealed it shut. "Where'd you put the cats?" Deplorable, her lying to our face. I noticed this too, once when I lost my cat for 3 weeks, finally turning up at my house. I went in EVERYDAY, and the same cages where there every day, some being moved, or new ones added. One girl went to check to see if one cat that looked like mine was a boy, and it had litter and feces stuck to it! I almost threw up.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Ok, lets look at the bigger picture, the ex employees complained months ago about the conditions, the over crowding, the chemicals in the dog park, but it was suggested they were disruntled!!! But after the investigation, it seem's they were right, it was right there on camera for the community to see, disruntled huh? Now some are suggesting donated money for the Katrina animal Victims never left the state of Indiana, is it disruntled people questioning this? I don't think so!! The ex employees have not lied, we witnessed their story to be true. However, we cannot say that about the HS Director, her dishonesty caught on camera. Just that one sentence gave all the ex employees credibility and took away the very little she may of had. Good going Ryan and WNDU. This woman was caught red handed lying, and after reading all the comments here, I can't say I'm surprised. New management is desperately needed.

Posted by: Jay Location: South Bend on May 22, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Jen, did you even read that past comments about donations and how much the HS already has? Open your eyes and realize that this goes way deeper then donating money or a bag of food. Once again, I urge people to write to their officials and also contact PETA at http://www.peta.org/about/c-contact.asp Don't let Ecker get away with this horror any longer.

Posted by: DeLonnie Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 11:59 PM
If you that bad in Laporte, try looking and inspecting the South Bend Animal Control on Olive Street. The place is a mess! Nasty living area for the animals there!

Posted by: Dawn Location: Indiana on May 21, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Hey, those tax records add up to close to 6 million dollars and they own a lot of land......This is NOT about lack of money. This is about a hoarder. Remember Dr. Ecker does not want anyone to have more than 3 animals AND she wants to control the records of ownership. WHY? She can't even control her own mouth (or the paperwork). Carol, do you remember the night I needed help with my sick horse and I told you I would get the money out of the bank in the morning. He had suddenly gotten sick and I was afraid he would die. You SAID, "Let him die then." and you hung up on me. Takes the wind out of your "compassion pretence". Give the Dr. an Emmy and put her in one of her cages.

Posted by: Cristina Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM
In the spirit of true journalism have you considered investigating other "animal shelter/rescue" organizations in the area ? Or is the Humane Society your only target?

Posted by: CHERYL CALLAHAN Location: Dowagiac Mi. on May 21, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Please inform the person that wants to turn the cats loose in the country,that they are exactly the kind of pereson that creates the problems the Humane society has.I live in the country. This mentality thinks their unwanted animal can live in my barn. I have no hay or straw or food, in my barn,it's empty and cold. I've had to have these dropped off animals picked up by animal shelters, because irresponsible people that won't spay or neuter them, get bored or tired of caring for them and drop them off to die of starvation or thirst and lack of shelter. They become sick, diseased, and wild, because they can't "fend for themselves". People will spend money on "new toys" for themselves, but not for the care of defensless animals, that they have lost interest in, and no longer want. It's more humane to use euthanasia, than to toss them out in the cold on a country road to die slowly.

Posted by: CAROL Location: SOUTH BEND on May 21, 2008 at 11:45 PM
DOCTOR CAROL ECKER WAS OUR VET FOR YEARS SHE ALWAYS WENT OUT OF HER WAY TO TREAT OUR PET'S SHE IS PASSIONATE IN THE WORK SHE DOES. I THINK IT'S HIGH TIME ST JOSEPH CO.HELPS OUT AND PUTS SOME OF OUR MONEY INTO BUILDING A BIGGER AND BETTER SHELTER FOR THESE ANIMALS,AND STOP WASTING TIME ON ATTACHING SOMEONE THAT IS TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THESE ANIMALS.LETS PUT OUR MONEY TO WORK FOR OUR SHELTER...

Posted by: concerned Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Way to go Velma. Your insight proves things are not being handled properly. The funds should not be hoarded much like the animals are being, but instead used for the animal's benefit as intended.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 11:43 PM
To all that say we need to donate more: Did you not see how much money they are sitting on? The hoarding does not stop at the animals but also in the bank accounts at the animals expense!

Posted by: Gail Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 11:41 PM
PETA does little. I like the Dateline idea. But we also need to forward this to every person we know, every rescue group we can think of and every news show. Ryan ROCKS! Dr. Carol Ecker=Big time Liar.

Posted by: lab cages on May 21, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Did anyone else notice on tonights segment some of the metal cages in back for cats are actually old lab rat cages?

Posted by: Jen Location: Niles on May 21, 2008 at 11:35 PM
We donate money, food, toys, bedding etc to the shelter all the time. Maybe if you newscasters gave some of your own paychecks, then the shelter would have a little more to work with. We talked to the director ourselves, in person, and she was the first to say they need a new facility because of the crowded conditions. The people of Mishawaka and other residents of St Joe County could step up to give a little $ to make a huge difference. It's sad that we live in a world where someone will pay $6 for a pack of cigarettes, but won't donate a $5 bag of dog food to the shelter. These are the same kind of people who complain about the government, but refuse to go out and vote! We will continue to donate our time, money, and supplies to this facility, and we challenge all of you negative nancys to do the same.

Posted by: SHARON Location: MISHAWAKA on May 21, 2008 at 11:34 PM
FIRST OFF..KUDOS TO THE REPORTER FOR BRINGING THIS STORY TO THE ATTENTION OF MICHIANA!! YES...WE ALL KNOW THERE IS A PROBLEM SO LETS GET A SOLUTION. WHERE DOES THE FUNDS FROM Licensing Fees GO? TO A CITY FUND OR HS? SO WHERE HAS THE MONEY GONE?? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT!! $40.00 FOR CATS TO BE SPAYED BY THE NUETER SCOOTER IS A STEAL!! CHECK THEM OUT AS WELL!!

Posted by: Jim Location: New Carlisle on May 21, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Humane Society needs a bigger place to keep animals .. we don't have a problem finding a place to keep all these homeless people. Euthanasia has to be done at the Humane society .. like it or not.

Posted by: Kristi Location: Elkhart on May 21, 2008 at 11:31 PM
This is awful for a animal lover to see. I think no kill shelters are great, until you see them like this. What kind of life do these animals really have? They even said some have been there 2 YRS! To the shelter, Please put some of these animals down and end their suffering.And to the community, if you have strays please let them be just that, they will have a better life in the wild than at that shelter! PLEASE DON'T SUPPORT THIS SHELTER MAKING THESE ANIMALS WHO HAVEN'T HURT ANYONE LIVE WORSE THAN KILLERS IN PRISON.

Posted by: Kim Location: Argos on May 21, 2008 at 11:28 PM
This is animal hoarding and she is dillusional if she thinks that these conditions are a better option then putting them to sleep.Lets cram her ass in a cage with a toilet to sleep next to with food and water and see how she feels. The animals can't speak but I am sure if they could, they would be crying and praying someone will rescue them from this hellhole. She says that some have been there for 2 years. If thats not animal cruelty then I don't know what it. Love the part where she is lying her tail off and caught when all the crates are back in place 3 hours after the WNDU visit. This says loud and clear.. I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING IS WRONG BUT I WON'T STOP. I will just hide the truth from the public and beg for more money. There has to be a way to stop this woman from hoarding animals under the disguise of a humane rescue. She needs to be fired. If the animals are living in squaler, then putting them to sleep is done FOR them, not TO them. She is blind to this fact so they suffer.

Posted by: BWAAHAHAHA on May 21, 2008 at 11:24 PM
BUSTED LYING!!

Posted by: ha ha ha on May 21, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Just watched part 2, Ecker busted lying. Did you hear her say "Where did you put the cats"? to the employee? They hid the evidence. She's a hoarder, she thinks ex employees are speaking the truth publicly about the conditions there because "They didn't want to work"??? Is that the best she could come up with? She's a liar, and more importantly, she was caught on the microphone trying to decieve the public and the reporter. A pathetic attempt at trying to redeem yourself and your actions.

Posted by: R Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 11:22 PM
HA HA Ecker you got caught LYING about the cats!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Jimtown on May 21, 2008 at 11:22 PM
In part two it is stated that 2 million is available for the new building and from my understanding they already have the property. I think you could build a usable shelter for that amount of money. But if you looked at the plans for the new building that was at the Fair in past years it looks more like a top of the line shelter. So my question is which is more appropriate to build a building with usable features and space or a fancy top of the line facility but in the mean time animals have to live in terrible conditions.

Posted by: Michelle Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 10:58 PM
I wonder why so many people are surprised to hear of the conditions at H.S. Many of us have been trying to bring it to the attention of the public for years now. The problem is that she has her hand into too many organizations to get anywhere with it.I hope she doesn't wiggle her way out of it this time. And as far as the land for the new H.S. goes, she owns the land so she calls the shots! There is a reason she has continued to delay the building of a new shelter. How about looking into that?And on a personal note...Dr. Ecker told me I would never work in this town as well.I have been employed as a vet tech now for better then 10yrs. Don't stay for that reason.I know no other Vet. who has any respect for what Dr. Ecker does,but they are not able to speak against the iron fist!

Posted by: Velma Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Please stop for a moment to consider this: It is not that the HS has no money/investents if you think the HS is run on a shoestring that shoe is a Manola Blonic. Look at the 2006 IRS return for the SJCHS Form 990 Line 54B - you will see that HS had investments of $1,736,629 for '06 that is a 1 YEAR profit on investments of $121,966. This is money already ON HAND and available to build or provide services. Each year they are seeing this type of income from investments. If the City of Mishawaka provides $132,000 (FY2008 City Budget) and St. Joe County provides $161,000 - for total Government contributions of $293,224 (2006 Form 990 Line1D) where is the oversight of tax dollars. Look at the Board: there is not one person that is from Mishawaka! This issue is NOT about more funding; it is about spending funds properly and oversight. The Board President can NOT dicipline the Executive Director when they are the same person! Ecker must be removed before REAL reform can take place.

Posted by: The Dog Park on May 21, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Yes, the dog park is a place where you can allow your dog to run loose and enjoy himself. You pay a membership fee in order to use the park, unfortunately, they neglect to tell you that the Argrilyzer machine which is used to chemically melt the dead bodies has a plumbing issue. As the chemicals and the liquidized dead remains go down the draining system, it leaks into the dog park, where it surfaces onto the grass, the area appears to be wet and muddy, but it's a strange looking mud. The dogs that frequent the park with their owners seem to be attracted to it, I have seen dogs rolling in it, sniffing it and sadly eating it. It is something that is kept quiet to the paying public, staff are told not to disclose this useful information to dog park users. They sometimes place benches over the area in order to hide it, but the area is too big to cover. They also have a mice infestation at the shelter, they put poison down, very wise where live animals have to live and escape their kennels.

Posted by: Angry Location: St. Joe on May 21, 2008 at 10:27 PM
All of you people who are ranting and raving about the conditions at the SJCHS are only looking at half of the picture. This is NOT just a Humane Society, but it's also your animal control facility. They have no choice but to pick up animals when called, frequently risking injury doing their job, and they can't just put them back out on the streets. Unlike the Humane Society in Benton Harbor, they don't turn away people bringing in litters of kittens or puppies or raccoons. In Benton Harbor the people who are turned away just put the animals out on the side of the road and then the animals have to fend for themselves. At least the people at the SJCHS don't play God with the animals lives -- they take them in and try to care for them and find them good homes. Why don't you offer some help instead of all the criticism, and also stop calling the shelter with death threats! Sometimes reporters don't know what they're stiring up with their so called investigations.

Posted by: Blair Location: Osceola on May 21, 2008 at 10:16 PM
FIRE ECKER, get her the heck out of there!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Serena Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Carol Ecker needs to be fired or needs to step down ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DOG PARK on May 21, 2008 at 10:05 PM
OH MY! I will never return to the dog park again. I now fear for the safety of my dog that has been exposed that substance! I am making a REAL vet appointment tommorrow to discuss this issue. What are the long term affects of that chemical exposure? I hope more dog park members read this and beware for thier dogs safety, not to mention human safety and exposure. I also have seen this area in the park, I feel betrayed by the Humane Society! I trusted my pet and myself would be safe there on thier grounds.

Posted by: sadsituation Location: elkhart on May 21, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Please contact http://www.peta.org/about/c-contact.asp The more we inform them of this the faster they will help!

Posted by: another Ryan fan on May 21, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Ryan you have done a fantastic job but lets think bigger! anyone ever heard of Dateline NBC?

Posted by: DC on May 21, 2008 at 09:41 PM
The 2009 Indiana Veterinary Medical Association Members Annual Committee Members are as follows: Jim Weisman, DVM, Chairman Tony Rumschlag, President IVMA Carol Ecker, DVM Kristin Graham, DVM John Johnston, DVM John Schnarr, DVM Lori Thompson, DVM

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Elkhart on May 21, 2008 at 09:36 PM
Dr. Ecker has a large amount of property and a large barn why doesn't she donates some space at her farm for these animals to be housed. I have known mr & dr ecker for many years and it has always been a do as I say not as I do from them. She forces through the ordinance of all county animals need to be licensed so My question is are all the dogs and cats that are on her property licensed and vaccinated ( i am willing to bet NO) because she more than likely believes that the ordinanace only applies to others and not her. And the problem with her facing charges is that she is so buddy buddy with high ranking officials that it would never happen. Maybe the money that the HS has made for a new bldg has went to pay for her high ranking political friends campaigns

Posted by: DC on May 21, 2008 at 09:34 PM
Contributor Candidate or PAC Amount Date FEC Filing Ecker, Carol A. Granger, IN 46530 Self-employed/Veterinarian CHOCOLA, J CHRISTOPHER (R) House (IN 02) CHOCOLA VICTORY COMMITTEE $400 primary 10/11/06 ECKER, CAROL A DR. GRANGER, IN 46530 SELF-EMPLOYED/VETERINARIAN BUSH, GEORGE W (R) President BUSH-CHENEY '04 (PRIMARY) INC $500 primary 07/19/04 Ecker, Carol Dr. Dmm GRANGER , IN 46530 NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE (R) $300 primary 04/22/03 ECKER, CAROL A GRANGER, IN 46530 VETERINARIAN HOGSETT, JOSEPH H (D) House (IN 02) HOGSETT FOR CONGRESS $250 general 11/01/94 ECKER, CAROL A DR GRANGER, IN 46530 VETERINARIAN HOGSETT, JOSEPH H (D) Senate - IN HOOSIERS FOR HOGSETT $250 primary 11/25/91 ECKER, CAROL DVM GRANGER, IN 46530 VETERINARIAN HOGSETT, JOSEPH H (D) Senate - IN HOOSIERS FOR HOGSETT $250 primary 06/30/91 ECKER, CAROL A DR GRANGER, IN 46530 VETERINARIAN COATS, DANIEL R (R) Senate - IN DAN COATS FOR INDIANA $

Posted by: Michelle Location: Washington, D.C. on May 21, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Sadly, there are no shelter standards for the state of Indiana. These standards are needed to protect the quality of life for animals admitted to animal shelters in Indiana. We have already seen some hoarding situations leave Kentucky, bound for Indiana because there are no standards. There is also no national regulatory agency for animal shelters. As it stands, the local ordinances are too vast for any one group to enforce on a national level and no organization has national law enforcement power. And, even then, it could fall to the USDA and we have seen how poorly they have performed regarding cattle inspection at processing plants. If you are interested in legislation regarding Indiana shelter standards, please contact the HSUS state director for Indiana. We can do better for homeless animals.

Posted by: Will Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 09:18 PM
Ecker should be fired and then broght up on criminal charges. She has created a fiefdom at SJCHS. Intimidation, bullying and ruling with a fist. Ecker is ruling the HS for her OWN GLORY - not for the betterment of the dogs. The City of Mishawaka is cupable in this because they have appointed her to positions over the years and providing the HS with $125,000 per year WITHOUT any oversight except for what what Ecker wants the City to know. I am appalled that OUR tax dollars go to support this quack and her minyons as they run the HS without regard to the animals. I personally voluntereed at HS and when Ecker forced out the Director that was working for the betterment of the animals, she forced out all the volunteers loyal to the previous Director. She told me directly, "This is my Human Society and I will run it the way I want." Can anyone say paranoid? Once again - CRIMINAL CHARGES SHOULD BE BROUGHT - CRUTALTY TO ANIMALS!

Posted by: BOARD MEETING Location: MISHAWAKA on May 21, 2008 at 08:57 PM
I JUST GOT INFO THAT AN EMERGENCY BOARD MEETING IS GOING TO BE HELD AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY TOMORROW 5/22/08. THE PUBLIC IS NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW. LETS ALL GO AND PROTEST THEIR PRACTICES. LET'S BACK ECKER UP AGAINST THE WALL WITH THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS WE ALL WANT ANSWERED.

Posted by: What about the dog park Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 08:50 PM
What was that about the dog park? My dog has been to the dog park and has rolled around in that area. I noticed that there was patches of fur and what looked like fat. I didn't know what it was, but I never took my dog back there. Someone needs to contact the board of health to look in to that. Wouldn't hazardous chemicals and decaying animals be affecting the ground and ground water. Ultimately affecting the health of people living in that area.

Posted by: Animal Whisperer Location: My home on May 21, 2008 at 08:33 PM
I worked with a few different vets (never Dr. Ecker) in my lifetime. NONE of them EVER did surgery on an animal that wasn't completely under anesthesia! That is totally inhumane. Although, the occasional spaying and aborting of full term kittens did happen in my presence, more than once. It was sickening to me to witness, but I was told is was a form of euthanasia for unwanted kittens. I pray that Carol Ecker either willingly steps down or is fired and also loses her license.

Posted by: Monica Location: Granger on May 21, 2008 at 08:27 PM
THIS MESSAGE IS FOR LUCY. You seem very compassionate about the welfare of animals. I am as well. I volunteer at shelters and I don't eat meat. I am mad, just as you are but I do NOT think it is a good idea to picket outside the shelter. It is in the best interest of the animals that we allow the public to continue to adopt each and every day. My fear is that possible pet owners will not adopt from the shelter during a protest. Each adoption counts, so please no picketing. There are other things that can be done to foster change.

Posted by: Michelle on May 21, 2008 at 08:00 PM
Sadly, there are no animal shelter standards for the state of Indiana. Indiana needs standards to protect the homeless animals who enter their shelters. There is also no national regulatory agency that oversees animal shelters. The public's best bet is to contact your local officials and demand humane conditions for the homeless animals in your community; these are elected officials. You can contact the HSUS Indiana state director and provide your information and your request for your state to enact shelter standards. The state director can then show state support for legislation regarding shelter standards. We can do better for these animals.

Posted by: Sam Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 08:00 PM
Volunteering your time does no good. You are only alllowed in certain areas and only allowed to do certain things. Like water some dogs and clean up some trash in the yard.....None of which will really help the problem there.

Posted by: Jay Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 07:54 PM
Let's see how Dr Ecker handles the publicity when it goes national. I hear there's a few people already contacting one organization that does not care who she is and will go after her in a heartbeat. Here's the link for anyone else wanting to give them a shout. http://www.peta.org/about/c-contact.asp Good Luck Dr Ecker.

Posted by: Very concerned Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 07:53 PM
I made my personal complaint with the Indiana Veterinary Board (and to several other places/people) back in Jan. But I'm just one person. Nothing has been done so far. Then again, I'm only one person.....

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 07:48 PM
Eric isn't the answer either. I've heard many horror stories about him also. One involving "Speical K" with the "blue" juice....

Posted by: karin Location: sb on May 21, 2008 at 07:47 PM
please contact PETA asap...the more people tell them , the more response you will get from them

Posted by: karin Location: sb on May 21, 2008 at 07:25 PM
I dealt w/ her a couple years ago and she actually challenged me when I told her about the conditions of the HM. I told her I saw feces all over the place and saw a extremely large St.Bernard in a very small cage, full of urine and feces. I couldn't bare to watch it. Outside of that there was no water in all of the bowls. Let's get habitat for humanity on this and we all can get together and build a shelter where the animals are given a life. I also see that they have an annual golf outing on the HMS website, whats that all about? Let's use that money and put it towards the dogs instead of letting a few big wgs go out and golf but yet we will never see the proceeds of that go toward the animals. Crazy world we live in, where animals are used for healing and depression but we can still keep them in a cage too small and forget to feed/water/exercise them. Very sad world.

Posted by: Christy Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Dr Ecker should be fired. Why even allow stepping down. Surgery on animals that can feel is beyond cruel. I wonder how she would feel about a knife slicing through her gut awake. I think the cost of spay and nuetering is part of the problem. It is very costly. But who is going to pay for the vets tee times if not us? There need to be vets that JUST CARE. I am not saying do it for free but the price is insane. Shots are also insane. It costs as much to take my dog to the vet as it does my kid to the doctor. If people could afford pets the may adopt more. This entire story makes me sick. Upon walking in there to drop off supplies I was in tears and so were my kids. It made me sick. I would love to lock who ever thinks it is ok to treat animals like this in a cage for awhile. They can make the living area in the facility better with so little work. I could run the facility better.

Posted by: ellen Location: benton harbor on May 21, 2008 at 07:17 PM
As the story showed and many commenters have stated, the SJCHS needs attention and help now. What amazes me are the comments directed at Dr. Ecker's care and guidance. One wonders how one person could have so much power and do the type of work she does for so long while treating people and animals so harshly. There are so many negative comments about her treatment and lack of moral character it astounds me that again, this has gone on for so long. The public outcry here must hold some truth. From my own experience there are alot of vets willing to humanely treat our pets with care and compassion without needing a power trip and without having to charge a fortune. They do it for the right reasons, because they love animals. Rescue groups are wonderful too, despite what Dr. Ecker may believe. I have rescued 2 German Shepherds and the people involved in our group work endlessly and tirelessly to get these dogs into forever homes without caring about how much time or money it costs them.

Posted by: 3 dogs and 2 cats on May 21, 2008 at 07:08 PM
maybe if we all started volunteering and showing up to take a stand against this, we can prevent these things from happening. I want answers first, thsi woman sounds liek the gestapo, and this is no humane way to live. I will be writing to local and national officials on this one. Michelle from DC do you have contact info as to where we can write and our voices will be heard? I will be writing my vet, the prosecutor, and every official. We cant forget about this in a month people.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 06:24 PM
A community's Plea: Dr Ecker please step down. If you have any true compassion for the animals you will do the right thing and move on.

Posted by: Another RYAN FAMULINER fan on May 21, 2008 at 06:20 PM
RYAN, You're the best. x

Posted by: rudy Location: laporte on May 21, 2008 at 06:17 PM
Part of the problem is the cost of spaying or neutering , theres vet in michigan city charging as much as 350.00 for a cat!!! These vets are a lot of the problem!! If you want to stop the over crowding to many animals you have to stop the problem before it starts not after. If these vets or animal shelters cared so much they should offer spaying for just the cost of it.It might be cheaper in the long run. I live on a farm and you have to have cats to keep the mice and rats down but how can we afford to spay every animal on a farm especially when people think they can stop and drop them off. You people want to complain , complain about not getting cheap spaying. I've already called! But it takes more than one!!

Posted by: To Former VET TECH on May 21, 2008 at 06:16 PM
I also assisted Dr Ecker in surgery, I also witnessed her cutting into animals whilst they were still awake crying, she told me this was normal at the beginning of a surgery, but I later found out it was far from normal. The other girl who assisted her before me refused to go back into surgery with her again because of this very issue. I later found out that quite a few of her assistants had seen this happen on many occassions.

Posted by: concerned Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 06:08 PM
Ecker has a long reputation of intimindating her shelter employees and has stated herself that she is untouchable. This is not about disgruntled employees but about people who truly care about the animals and want to see a change. People need to be responsible owners but shelters are there to take care of animals who lack those owners. These animals don't need to go from one bad environment into another. Euthanasia is a sad fact of life. There would not be a need for shelters and rescue groups if enough good homes were available. Speaking of rescue groups, they are a priceless asset for any shelter. I believe Ecker frowns on using these resources. I just find it heart breaking that these animals are left to languish in cages in cages without the proper care and human interaction they crave simply because of the fact that there are too many being kept in one shelter. Calling yourself a no-kill shelter may get you donations and a warm image but what about the quality of life?

Posted by: Cynthia Location: Elkhart on May 21, 2008 at 05:55 PM
I am disturbed by this footage but I also believe the Humane Society is in a very difficult situation. Before we point a finger we should maybe ask ourselves and the people around us if their pets have been spayed/neutered? Some people think it won't happen to their pets. Others maybe can't afford it. I think it's horrible the way these animals have to live but I think we all have a responsibility as a community to see that there is no need for these animals to be homeless to begin with. Many of these animals are products of people falling in love with a cute baby version. Then not taking the proper steps to properly train the animal or losing interest as it grows older. I personally believe a pet is a life long comittment. Unless it is a uncontrollable situation. The Humane Society is faced with the question of do we save them a little while longer or do we keep killing them? It is definitly a hard question to answer. Maybe we should be discussing ways to help!

Posted by: Brad Location: Plymouth on May 21, 2008 at 05:52 PM
Rich - If you want to help go adopt a few dozen cats for your ranch

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 05:38 PM
I swear this is my last post-I promise!! I just would like to say or ask why couldn't a charge of cruelty to animals be brought upon this shelter or Ecker? It is a crime right?? How can someone like her be called a "veterinarian" (sp?-so nobody yells at me) when she shows absolutly NO compassion for animals whatsoever!! Ugh, this story just makes me want to cry and become the cat lady that rescues cats, but unfortunatly I already have 2 cats and couldn't financially do that, nor do I have the square footage.

Posted by: recent ex employee on May 21, 2008 at 05:37 PM
Sometimes littler boxes won't fit in the carriers, so in the mornings you have to pull the cats out of them to clean them because they are wet with their own urine, feces stuck in their paws, dried feces stuck in their fur, it's disgusting. They're only cleaned out once a day (if they're lucky) so they're lay in their own waste all day and night. Dogs are the same, cleaned once, but the adoption part gets cleaned more frequently because customers gag upon entry. Considering a vet is calling all the shots, that place is a pig pen, filthy and unhealthy, not only for animals but for the people who have to work in it. I'm sure there is plenty of vets who would be willing to help the animals there if the director wasn't there. Build a new shelter, get a new director and use the local vets for animal health needs. Problem Solved.

Posted by: Ryan Famuliner Fan on May 21, 2008 at 05:35 PM
I moved to this area 3 years ago and saw that big sign at the HS that says "soon moving to new location". I kept wondering what the hold up was all about. I got into the animal welfare field and started hearing a little here and a little there. Could 1 person really hold that much control over an entire county, I thought to myself? Well, apparently so. The director is very convincing and truly believes what she is saying so much that others believe it as well. That doesn't make it right and that doesn't make it humane. I have seen the carriers. It is NOT a temporary set up by any means. The cats, sometimes 2 to a carrier, are forced to lie in a dirty litter box, lie on top of one another, or stand. Viruses are very difficult to manage in the cleanest and most spacious of facilities. Those cats suffer, just as the dogs living in the back for over a year suffer. Please don't let this end with just talk. Let's actually DO something. We need a new shelter with a new director.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 05:31 PM
I think we should start picketing outside the shelter...I'll give Dr. Ecker a piece of my mind, maybe even give Miss Ecker a decker to the becker!

Posted by: Alan Location: mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 05:26 PM
Everyone that is against the treatment of the animals at the Humane Society of St. joe County needs to take action. Apparently government officials are not doing anything. Their financial records are public record, lets get them. Their board meetings are open to the public, lets go and ask her the hard hitting questions and watch her try and weasle her way out. The staff and the board of directors are shady individuals. Everything that goes on with the actual runnings of the business has a conflict of interest. Carol is the director, board president, and on the animal control commission. Nancy Deneen is board treasurer and does their books and payroll. Dr. Ecker even changed the by-laws of the shelter when she found out she could possibly get voted off the board, she had her yes people approve the changes and made it so that no member could be voted off unless the vote was unanimous. Now she cannever be voted off. Maybe the state officials governing 501c3 corp. should look in to this.

Posted by: Yeah Right Location: SBN on May 21, 2008 at 05:22 PM
Carol Ecker needs to go. She is so busy with her nose in everybody else's business, that animals she's entrusted to care for suffer. The only thing she cares for is her own personal power and fame. No, I am not a former HS employee, but I have been invovled in animal husbandry for almost 20 years, and have watched what she has done and decreed.

Posted by: James Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 05:15 PM
For those of you that believe donating money will help this problem, you are terribly wrong. They have the money. All you are doing is supporting this inhumane treatment. You say you care about animals then get the person responsible out of the shelter. By donating to that shelter you are doing nothing but reinforcing her behavior. Dr. Ecker has brainwashed you into thinking that they are in such desperate need of help, this is her own fault. She is in the wrong. Do not give her money for wrong doing. That shelter functioned at its best when Eric Durcinka was there. Sure the building is old but somehow Eric and his staff managed to keep it clean and they never had to hoard animals. The staff that was there before also knew a thing or two about animals and how to treat people with some respect.

Posted by: Former VET TECH that worked withEcker Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 05:09 PM
I assisted Dr. Ecker with multiple surgeries and witnessed horrifying practices. She would begin cutting before animals were completely under anasthesia. She cut a mass of a cat with no anasthesia.She did a spay on a pregnant cat and threw the almost full term babies in the trash to suffocate. Her veterinary license needs to be reviewed and revoked. Everyone needs to contact the Indiana Veterinary Board and complain about this woman.

Posted by: Nancy Location: Osceola on May 21, 2008 at 05:04 PM
Obviously Dr. Ecker is mentally ill. She does not see anything wrong with what she is doing. People that keep animals in this condition should be prosecuted. This is animal hoarding by all definitions. PROSECUTE CAROL ECKER!!!

Posted by: Michelle Location: Washington, D.C. on May 21, 2008 at 04:57 PM
It doesn’t seem so much to ask- When we take an animal into shelter care, we are depriving him of virtually all freedoms, we hope in his best interest. Isn’t protecting animals from illness and suffering the least we can then do? Is it unreasonableto expect that a homeless cat be confined in such a way that he is able to stretch to his full length, walk a few steps, choose between curling up on a soft surface or cooling off on a smooth resting place, maybe even exercise his athletic prowess by leaping to an elevated perch?... Even worse than situations where the Five Freedoms are not achieved are those scenarios where the level of crowding is such that stress and disease become almost inevitable. The most severe examples make for dramatic and heartbreaking headlines and accompanying stories about cruelty and institutionalized hoarding. This has been adapted from the HSUS Animal Sheltering magazine, Sick to Death, authored by Kate Hurley, DVM.

Posted by: Hey annonymous 3:57 on May 21, 2008 at 04:56 PM
You suggest the ex employees aren't credible because they won't show their faces? I think this says more about the director of the humane society, and how employees (not just ex employees but current employees) are intimidated enough to have to go to such lengths to stay annonymous!!! I worked there for a long time and have had the unfortunate experience of working under the current management, and I completely understand why they chose to do it this way, reprisals can be a little hard to swallow. What about the ex employee who argued with the current dictator and was threatened with "You'll never work in this County again"? You know nothing regarding what it's like to work there under an iron fist.

Posted by: Nancy Location: Elkhart, IN on May 21, 2008 at 04:49 PM
If you can provide a good home, please adopt! On page 14 of the St. Jo Co. Animal Control Ordinance it discusses the spay/neutering/microchipping of adopted animals. It says that adopted animals must be spayed or neutered within 60 days of adoption and the fine for not doing that is $50 - $2,500. The problem with our local ordinances is that nobody enforces them. The overpopulation of animals will never get better until we come together and determine a way of assuring all animals that will not be bred are either spayed or neutered. Presently our shelters let the animals be adopted without already being spayed or neutered. States like California require the spay or neutering before the animal leaves the shelter. We can do better. We need to help our local officials come up with ordinances that mean something and will have effect. I encourage all of you to contact your local authorities and ask them to work towards solving this problem. Animals are innocent to human selfishness.

Posted by: Jill Location: Osceola on May 21, 2008 at 04:49 PM
This is not about disgruntled employees. The former employees complaints are backed by the footage that was shot by WNDU. Alot of these employees left on their own free will, so what are they disgruntled about. They were not fired. All of them left because of the conditions and treatment of the animals. You ask why they wanted their identitys hidden, it is because they fear Dr. Ecker. She instills fear in her employees by making threats of her power and control.

Posted by: GRACE Location: MISHAWAKA on May 21, 2008 at 04:43 PM
As someone that works in the animal care field, I was appalled at this story. The workers at that shelter need a career change. The decision to euthanize is not an easy ne to make, but when you work at a humane society you have to go in knowing that euthanasia will be part of your job. The animals are now being forced to die of slowly of illness instead of being euthanized. The definition of euthanasia is "good death." What they are doing is cruel and te animals are suffering.

Posted by: Another former employee on May 21, 2008 at 04:42 PM
Firstly, THANK YOU RYAN. Unfortunately, I had nothing to do with the investigating of this story, but I'm so happy to see that others did. The footage shown lastnight IS the reality of SJCHS. Infact, it looked a little bit worse, they have the money for a new shelter, they have the land, Ecker always told us we had enough money to start building. WHY HAS IT NOT STARTED? She wants a vet clinic within the shelter, WHY? So she can financially gain from it? Sorry, but I didn't realize the community had to fund and donate her personal ventures. All the people want to see is a roof over the animals heads, A SHELTER!! NOT A VET CLINIC!! give the animals what they need, and what's all this about the Hurricane Katrina money not leaving Indiana? I'd heard this a few years ago. Where is the money now? Isn't this a criminal act? Somebody needs to investigate this in more depth... KUDOS RYAN... YOU ROCK, Thankyou for airing this.

Posted by: animal lover on May 21, 2008 at 04:39 PM
Obviously the stories told by people not willing to show their faces were credible!WNDU was there to show it all.It shouldnt matter if the "cages" were for quarantine they were still not big enough.This story sickens me!HS is supposedly a no kill shelter but it seems to me these animals would be better off put down.I know that there are animals euthanized at HS and not because of being sick-explain that!The rules and fees at shelters are ridiculous!And the rules change depending on who you are and who you know.People that love animals would do whatever they could do place them in loving homes.The HS thinks they are doing the right thing by not euthanizing?Look what is happening with the horse market now since all the do gooders got the slaughter plants closed down!You cant save every animal-there are to many.Animal owners STOP BREEDING YOUR PETS!People just breed their pets to breed and dont care about quality or care.It is life long committment to care for an animals.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 04:39 PM
The people in the interview didn't show their faces cause Catol tries to sue for slander even when she knows YOUR telling the truth. IF you haven't worked there before, you have no idea what's really going on. Nor do you know what kind of woman Carol really is. The news couldn't do the "whole" story cause it would take weeks if not longer to air it! And those little cages that the animals are in, ARE NOT SHORT TERM!!! IF you have worked there especially in the back, YOU KNOW THIS!!! And anybody still working there that says they do it for the animals, that's nothing but BULL! Of course Dvorak or anybody else up there in the politics won't do nothing about this, IT'S JUST ANIAMLS AND THEY DON'T CARE!!!! BUT that doesn't mean that we still can not try to do something! Those animals can't speak up for themselves and that is what Carol and everybody else there is counting on!!! It is all about the animals, NOT CAROL. She just happens to be the problem for the animals!!!

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 04:38 PM
I take it that the only people that can fix this problem simply don't give a crap about these animals.....how sad.......

Posted by: hazey Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 04:35 PM
BEWARE OF THE DOG PARK. THE AGRILYZER(BODY RENDERING MACHINE) BACKS UP INTO THE DOG PARK. THAT AREA OF LAND THAT YOUR DOGS LIKE TO ROLL IN AND EAT THE SLUDGE FROM THE GROUND IS DEAD ANIMALS. ITS A COMBINATION OF DEAD ANIMAL PARTS AN CAUSTIC SODA (THE CHEMICAL THAT MELTS THE BODIES)AND POTASH FLAKE BOTH CHEMICALS ARE HIGHLY HAZARDOUS.

Posted by: R and S Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 04:27 PM
For Anonymous at 3:57PM, you say how credible are people that don't show there face, but yet you write as anonymous. WNDU did tell the whole story and if you read the comments, people are waiting patiently for the next segment. Also, these are not disgruntled employees, these are volunteers and people in the community who love and care for animals and there well being. On top of this, the animals are not kept in those carriers for a short time. Look how many there are in those pictures and you cannot tell me that all of those animals will be placed into individual long term housing after a few hours. Did you not listen to the Director from LaPorte County? She said that this is called animal warehousing!! Also, if you look at some of the comments it shows how much money the Humane Society claimed on taxes...so don't tell me that there isn't enough to break ground on a new shelter.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 04:21 PM
cont.) she got my other cat sick, so about 200 dollars or so later we had to pay for a second set of shots and meds for both cats now because she was so sick. So actually it cost us over 300 dollars to adopt her. The paper work shouldn't have been wrong in the first place. I love her dearly though....and I'm glad we have her and she's not there anymore.

Posted by: lucy Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 04:15 PM
This story makes me sick!! I adopted a kitten there about a year and a half ago, thinking I was doing a good thing. I would NOT call the vet professional at all, listen (or read)to this: They wouldn't let us bring the kitten home until she was spayed and we were like ok that's fine. Then 2 days later they call us to say we can come pick her up. The "adoption papers" stated that the kitten was male and 4 months old, and that "he" was neutered. They also said that we needed to take it to another vet for checkup within two weeks of taking her home. We took her to a vet and he was a little shocked that the papers they gave us were wrong. The kitten is in fact female, she was spayed; but the vet said she couldn't have been more than 3 months old when we brought her to him, and he was also shocked that they spayed her so young, you're supposed to wait til they're 6 months old. So of course since the paperwork wasn't correct we had to pay for her shots re-done, and plus she was sick, cont.

Posted by: SS~ on May 21, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Everybody says to help the animals NOW and why do we wait so long to do something? If only it were that easy. I have been working on this for MONTHS and I have written SEVERAL people, HIGHER ups and all that, just to be written off as a disgruntle employee. Disgruntle employee or not, those are the facts as to what's really going on in there. It's not so easy to help the animals like everybody thinks. When I was getting no where's with my letters to EVERYONE, I went to the news. And guess what, they did want to hear what I had to say!!! We had several conversations and then went on to an interview so the story could be aired and brought to people's attention. It's out there now people, hopefully something can and will be done to protect these poor animals from the people there who "claim" they love animals. I'm sorry BUT you don't treat animals that way if your an animal lover! I was looking for another job so I could quit cause I could not stand it there but I was fired 1st. Lucky me!!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 03:57 PM
1. How credible are people not willing to show their face? Not very, IMHO. 2. Why didn't WNDU tell viewers that the pictures of the cages they showed were short term quarantine cages, rather than letting people assume that they were long-term housing. 3. Why does this all of a sudden seem to be more about former disgruntled employees lynching Carol Ecker and less about the animals?? 4. Do you know how much it costs to build a new shelter? To run it? Millions may seem like a lot to you people, but in the real world it isn't enough to sustain ongoing costs associated with a bigger shelter. 5. Dvorak can't prosecute murderers, rapists and pitbull fighters. Do you really think he'll put Carol Ecker and the board in prison? You people are morons. 6. WNDU still hasn't told the whole story yet (or at least I hope they do). You people should reserve your opinions until you've seen both sides.

Posted by: Former Employee Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 03:52 PM
Scott, There are a lot of former employees who could do a better job and have more compassion for animals but we were forced out. So keep on stroking Ecker's ego, but when you do something wrong EVENTUALLY it WILL catch up with you.

Posted by: robin Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 03:45 PM
I just donated money and my daughter and I are voluntering our time beginning after the June 2nd orientation. If people want to see change, then get involved and stop complaining.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: LaPorte County on May 21, 2008 at 03:41 PM
I agree with the person that said the HS needs to change its rules a little. We had contacted the HS to adopt two large dogs. We have 4 acres fenced in. We were honest and said the dogs may be left outside in good weather but would be indoor dogs. We were denied because of the possibility of the dogs being left outside, even though they had 4 acres to run. We bought 2 dogs from an individual and they have their own futon in the house to sleep on and the 4 acres to run. They go with us every where and are spoiled rotten! I hate to see an animal euthanized but feel being put to sleep in a "humane" way is much better than being mistreated and locked in a cage no larger than you can turn around in. Pet owners need to take responsibility as well with spaying and neutering. The shelter should be treated like an individual would in this case and be prosecuted.

Posted by: former employee also Location: mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 03:28 PM
I worked at the SJCHS twelve years ago and left for a different career path. To say that Ecker ran the SJCHS board with a iron fist is an understatement. Even then she surrounded herself with her "yes" men. As far as the talk about a new shelter, I was hearing that talk even back then. I saw employees draw-up rough plans on what the back,kennel part, of the shelter should look like. AND,yes, there was whispers of money mismanagement even back then. The community just don't get how well connected she is and how she has made herself a force to be reckened with, to the point that area vets just try to stay out of her way. I have seen how she operates for so many years that I would be very surprised if anything comes of this story. I don't believe that any community leader would ever stand up to her. They haven't yet.

Posted by: scott Location: southbend on May 21, 2008 at 03:22 PM
when people do not take care of their animals,they need to be taken out of those conditions.people need to shut their pieholes,or take over if you can do a better job!

Posted by: Vicki Location: Niles, Mi on May 21, 2008 at 03:15 PM
I can't stand to watch this program.Isn't there a Gov't agency to oversee this? Or the prosecutors office?.Certainly they are not outside of the law! My heart aches for these animals...I already have several pets and cannot take more or I would!

Posted by: Johnny Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 03:12 PM
Lets hear the other side before making judgement. The news guys love this to stir up the pot and keep you waiting for "Part 2"!

Posted by: Roger Location: Granger on May 21, 2008 at 03:08 PM
Well people Im very serious about this!! here is what I have started: HABITAT4PETS.COM this website will be dedicated to saving animals like this all over the country, but first I will see what I can do right here in my own back yard. What a way to help the animals. I look forward to turning this website into a very helpfull tool into rectifying situations like this. Your comments are greatly appreciated. Thanks Roger

Posted by: Desi Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Beware of the Avid Microchip. Although HomeAgain is the one that MOST Vets prefer. Dr Ecker uses Avid because she is heavily invested in them. Many, many dogs have been double-chipped because she doesn't not scan properly for HomeAgain-thus more money for micro-chipping. Also you won't be able to properly scan with 2 microchips. I can hardly wait for part 2 tonight. Then we should unite and protest at Dvorak's office until he does something. Wonder if Ecker is cleaning things up just in case she gets found out. We CAN'T let this stop here people.

Posted by: Donna Location: Niles, mI on May 21, 2008 at 02:45 PM
Humane?? What is humane about keeping hundred of cats held prisoners in small cat carriers???? Dr. Ecker says, at least they are alive. How humane is it to for cats to have no quality of life for weeks, months or maybe the rest of their lives? Yes, it is a society /people problem of over populations of dogs and cats because they fail to spay and neuter. It is sad that any animal has be euthanized because of a lack of homes but it is sad and wrong that a Humane society takes them in then fail the responsibility of doing right by them. There are so many things worse than death and that is being held to live a life without hope held prisoner.

Posted by: Dixie Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 02:35 PM
Dr Ecker, Nancy Deneen and all the others involved need to be caged up and treated like the animals. Please people, forward the link to everyone you know. This has got to stop.........NOW!

Posted by: R Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 02:15 PM
I am disgusted by this story. Thank you WNDU for airing this story. Maybe someone will do something about this. I am an animal lover and take very good care of my animals. On the day of their 6 month birthday they go and get fixed. My animals are very happy and show it. Yes people do need to realize animals cost money and if they can't afford them do not get them. Something needs done about the condition of the animals at the shelter. I cannot donate my time but I sure do donate money to every fundraiser I find for them. I think that the people who run the shelter should be put in a small cage with their litter box and food and see how they like it. Animals are defenseless just like kids. I do not think I cannot watch part 2 of this story. I am sick as it is about this abuse.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 02:11 PM
The Blame game continues... Yes irresponsible people are the cause for the over crowding of this shelter. but as we saw on tv last night other shelters can be clean and control the population. The Job of the Humane Society is to reunite lost pets ( which does happen once in a while to the best of owners) to relocate unwanted pets into new homes. and the enevitable of controling the pet population by HUMANELY euthanizing in a timely manner. Unfortunately human emotion has gotten the better of some staff members. How nice it is to see animal loving people in this organization, can also be its demize. I am not being mean about this but since this has gotten out of hand its obvious these people need some serious counceling to put thier emotions and reality in check, if not only for the well being of themselves but yet thier families around them. I feel this organization needs to continue and flourish but in someone elses hands that can handle the emotionally stressed and challenging job.

Posted by: Roger Location: Granger on May 21, 2008 at 02:00 PM
Foster homes for pets, people hold the animals and care for them untill they are adopted, It works very well, I myself adopted a Siberian Husky from a foster home near Indianapolis over 3 years ago, She was brought back to the foster home on many occasions, with various excuses and reasons to bring the dog back. She also ran away a couple of times from her new owners, but was always found and returned due to a chip implant. Since I adopted this dog I have spent over $4,000.00 in vet bills, shots, pills, etc, But you know one thing? That dog is the happiest animal on the planet, besides my Golden Retriever, which is my Siberian Huskys best friend for life! I wouldn't have it any other way, Life is good when you have a friend that you can trust and count on. Please people Help the animals, they don't have a choice YOU DO!!! Roger

Posted by: Roger Location: Granger on May 21, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Amy, Thats a great idea, Im in for Habitat for Pets, Also if you would contact Our local Home Depot, Im sure something could be worked out. They do the same almost every weekend with building playgrounds for children all over the Michigan and Indiana area with volunteers from within the store, and also from the community.

Posted by: Michelle Location: Washington, D.C. on May 21, 2008 at 01:29 PM
Here is a link to this humane society's Form 990, IRS Return 2006- It includes a list of the board members for 2006.

Posted by: Citizen on May 21, 2008 at 01:17 PM
I think the people dropping me these pets off to shelters can thank themselves for the growing problem. Some people had very valid reasons. I think if any of these shelters want to have less animals they need to make less restrictions. Most require fenced yards, someone home with them, no apartment living and the list goes on. We adopted a dog from Pet Refuge, but he was just too much for us so we had to take him back, after that everytime we went back to look at animals we were always told no. We ended up going to a shelter in LaPorte and we got the best dog we could ask for. She had been abused and when we brought her home she was so thin you count and see her ribs. She has thrived since being with us and we would be lost without her. They did not require a credit check. home check, and our dog has a wonderful loving home and is spoiled to top. My parents live in an apartment that accepts pets but is always told not in an apartment without a fence. Change rules and more can be adopted

Posted by: One who knows Location: St Joe county on May 21, 2008 at 01:07 PM
You must understand. The Humane Society has property and large sums of money that they have acquired over the years. They just won't apply it. One person just sits on it getting fatter everyday. Who controls the money has all the power....The money IS there........

Posted by: Lew Location: La Porte on May 21, 2008 at 01:01 PM
And how about the financial records? Nancy Deneen is not only the HS Board Treasurer she is also the paid bookeeper. Isn't that a conflict of interest? I'd say the financial records really need to be looked at. Also Ecker is the board president and the director. You CAN'T oversee yourself can you?

Posted by: Have seen it Location: Elkhart on May 21, 2008 at 12:53 PM
OK - I too have seen the deplorable conditions in the shelter. Seeing a cat forced to lie in their own waste because there's no room in their "carrier" is unimaginable! How anyone can say it's better to have more animals in a tight space rather than euthanize them, should ask themselves how they would like it if treated the same. I'm sure you'd change your mind after only a couple of days. So..........everyone is outraged and wants change. Let's JUST DO IT! Why has this gone on so long? Why can't anything be done? I don't understand and I'm sure the animals who are suffering don't either. Let's all pull together as a community and help them! Start with a new director who has a conscious. Keep tabs on them by periodic inspections - a lot of times people won't do what's right unless forced to and are under a watchful eye. The animals deserve our continuous diligence on this.

Posted by: anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Yes SOME of the animals are there because of irresponsible pet owners but its mostly the H.S. lack of willingness to help others Im hearing things like people trying to get their pets back and being charged an ennormus price and if you dont have the money to pay they keep the pet for a couple weeks and then Euthanise (kill) the animal. This actually happened to a friend of mine! So sad....

Posted by: SK Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM
I double everyones comments about the high prices the HS charges! They charge for things they don't even do, and then lie about it. My dog was taken by my neighbor over to the shelter, then the Humane Society tried to charge me for obtaining a warrant, and a pickup fee, as well as vaccines that they knew were done only two months earlier--they did them! If they had checked the microchip (that they injected), they'd have known this. It was $400 of charges that were lies. I'm not talking a fine for my mistake, or a fee to get the dog back--these were just their lies! How many people can afford $1000 just to get theyr dog back? When I called Mishawaka City Hall to appeal the charges, I ended up being sent to Dr. Ecker to "discuss" it. She lies.

Posted by: Lew Location: La Porte on May 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Excellent investigation Ryan Famuliner! I know a former employee and the person told me of the horrible conditions. The conditions were dictated by Carol Ecker. Other issues come to mind. Look into the financial records. Look into how animals are chosen to be euthanized. Look into how she would not let employees treat the animals properly. Look into her horse dealing practices. Look into how she acquired confidential information (records,etc.) of her former practice after she sold it, which was none of her business.

Posted by: Mary Location: SB on May 21, 2008 at 12:47 PM
How about we all go down with SIGNS and stand in front of the "Humaine Society"??

Posted by: Dog lover Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I volunteered at a shelter outside of Indy several years ago. I went in on weekdends and cleaned the animal cages, fed and watered animals, whatever needed to be done. When I moved to South Bend I went to the HS to sign up to volunteer and was told the only opportunity they had for me was to stuff envelopes for an upcoming event. Why would you turn away help? I also used Dr. Ecker when I first moved here. I took my animals there only one time because she was so rude to me and so uncaring to my animals. She needs to be removed from her position.

Posted by: former volunteer Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Ecker can get away with this because no one dares stops her-political connections, money and a lawyer. As long as she can misuse the funds-she will. Hit her in her pocketbook and she might retire. Her loyal henchmen are there because she has power. Take the power away and it will just be her and her equally cruel husband (known them both for years). Nancy knows what is going on and she is part of that cover-up that others have written about. The board is spineless. They know what is going on and do nothing. Investigate PROPERLY and indict all of them for animal cruelty. Repeal the laws that she helped set up-3 dogs per household, licencing through the humane shelter, etc. Get someone new and reputable-not Eric-to run the shelter. Use the millions she has put aside for the animals and a building, not her defense.

Posted by: Anita Location: Niles, MI on May 21, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many of you complaining on this forum have pets at home which are NOT spayed or neutered? If more people were REPSPONSIBLE pet owners and got their animals fixed, or better yet, THOUGHT about the expense of raising a pet properly before bringing it home, there would be less need for places like the Humane Society (and it would be a hellava lot less crowded). That adorable little puppy and kitten you bring home on the spur of the moment costs MONEY to feed, have vaccinated and get spayed/neutered, yet people claim "I can't afford to have it fixed." Then maybe you shouldn't have gotten it in the first place. Overcrowded shelters are caused by irresponsible pet ownership. Getting your pet snipped is the first thing you can do to prevent situations like that of the SJCHS. That being said, something must be done to help the animals in these deplorable conditions because there is no excuse for a cat or dog to live like that.

Posted by: amy Location: granger on May 21, 2008 at 12:21 PM
i feel for these animals as humans are some of the reasons they are there. too many people get pets for their young children or as a novelty and do not understand the work involved. both my pets came from shelters and i believe there are enough good pet lovers out there to make a difference. i know an architect that would probably design something pro bono, instead of giving money why can't all of us volunteer our time to help build a facility (like habitat for humanity)and have fund raisers to get money for supplies or try to get local businesses (home depot, lowe's etc) to donate materials. by the sound of it if all of us who posted helped it could be achieved. hopefully something can be done with how it is ran, but to help the animals live a better life is a good step.

Posted by: Laura Location: Knox on May 21, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I understand they have to feed and house the animals but if people could get animals from them for little to no cost they would have alot less animals to house and feed...GET SPONSERS!!This is happening in alot of city's through out the country!...there has to be a better way!

Posted by: Lisa Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Down with Ecker! I am emailing Dvorak today as well! To Bigburn420-you rock! I like your approach! Let me know when you are going, and I will join you...

Posted by: Pam Location: Brunette on May 21, 2008 at 12:12 PM
The St. Joseph County Humane Society has said for years that they need a bigger facility for the animals. They need help to get that done. Many make donations to Notre Dame etc. Make those to the donations to the Humane Society to help our faithful friends. Also, someone could donate a facility for the Humane Society.

Posted by: Dee Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Dear Roger from Granger I LOVE YOU MAN!!!

Posted by: outraged on May 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM
The director is a board member of Purdue University Veterinary program... anyone know any links they may want to see who is representing the University

Posted by: Pet Lover on May 21, 2008 at 11:45 AM
I just emailed Michael Dvorak urging him to get involved....I hope you will do the same. www.stjoepros.org. Click on "contact us" and tell him what you think.

Posted by: anonymous Location: south bend on May 21, 2008 at 11:39 AM
This is a horrible story, the fact that so many people try to adopt these animals and are turned away daily for some idiotic policy per whoever is rediculous, I tried to adopt a pet about 15 yrs ago and was turned away because my older dog had run out into the street and was hit, they determined I was not a safe home,. Since then I have had my dog for over12 years she is still kicking I got her from pet refuge. The st jo. HS needs to be more open to people. Do they think killing them or keeping them in confined areas is better! What is wrong with them maybe every home is not ideal but love doesn't have to be well off. They would have more money and less animal if they wouldn't be so peticular with people. Another issue is people can't get there animals out of the HS because of the ridiculous cost, maybe there could be a payment plan or agreement, or a fund where people could donate to help families in that situation. families have left/children crying cuz they couldn't get fluffy back.

Posted by: BigBurn420 Location: SB on May 21, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Thats really messed up, I'm gonna make a point to stop by the shelter and stir things up a little...maybe take a camera in there to document....I've got one leg and on crutches they aren't gonna lay a finger on me or I'll snap....this is ridiculous.... Sorry, I'm an animal lover

Posted by: Pet LOver on May 21, 2008 at 11:27 AM
I just emailed Michael Dvorak urging his office to get involved...I think everyone should do the same. www.stjoepros.org. Click on "Contact Us."

Posted by: Sue on May 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM
This Ecker woman sounds like a kook!!

Posted by: anonymous Location: mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 11:22 AM
The situation at st joseph humane society is repulsive, I suggest that maybe if they were more people friendly maybe they could return alot of those animals to there homes. Recently my dog got out and I called the humane society to see if someone reported finding the dog, the lady I spoke with told me I had to come and find my dog, I explained that I had to work 16 hours that day and didn't think I would be able to get in to look through there dogs, she was not empathetic at all. I fortunately could send my daughter in to see if our dog was there, (she ofcourse had to be 18 to even look!!!). My dog had just been brought in to the humane society as my daughter arrived. This cost $95 Just for the dog to be picked up and brought in and taken directly out again. In the past she had gotten out and the staff was more helpful and called me, and I went and picked her up 1 block away. Couldn't this whole experience be made more people friendly? and financially managable.

Posted by: Another former employee Location: Indiana on May 21, 2008 at 11:20 AM
WOW! FINALLY! Thank you Ryan Famuliner and WNDU for bringing this out to the public when NO ONE else had the guts. When I volunteered years ago I didn't see a problem. Then I started working at the HS under Eric. I was appalled. I tried to bring out the issues and got absolutely nowhere. The South Bend Tribune ran an article by Nancy Sulok which made Eric and Dr. Ecker look as innocent as the driven snow and made me look incompetent and vindictive. Her attorney, Peter Agostino, made me sign a paper that I wouldn't say anything (or they would sue). After the article was published, quite a few people came forward and showed me letters that were written and sent to the trib. Not one was published. The people who tried to make a difference were threatened. PETA managed to get the paralyzed puppy, Sadie, euthanized but then they refused to do anything else because Ecker and her lawyer threatened to sue. Thank you WNDU! You are the BEST!

Posted by: Animals are God's creatures too! Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Thank you Matt! Very well said. This series is about ANIMALS, not people. Read the title of the story people!

Posted by: Matt Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 11:03 AM
It figures that someone would come on here talking about save the children in the womb and people first. Way to go "all this talk", the "people first" mentality is how we got to these overcrowded shelters in the first place. If the animal doesn't fit into the "people first" household, toss them on the street and let the shelters deal with them!!

Posted by: Jeff Location: Granger on May 21, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Euthanasia? Call it what you want, it's still taking a life and THAT is murder. The H.S. has been operating this way too long. I hope that enough people forward this story to P.E.T.A., the S.P.C.A. or ANYONE else that will help so that something is done about it. Furthermore, why aren’t the proper officials DOING THE RIGHT THING and filing charges? Well here’s what’s coming next… the H.S. will call for the public to make more of an effort to spade and neuter their pets. That will be their excuse for treating the pets they have in this manner. Abuse is abuse!! Do the right thing! Take the director to court!!

Posted by: Susan Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Dr. Ecker has a control issue? She runs the Animal Commission in the City of Mishawaka (the group that you appeal Humane Society actions to), she runs the Board of Directors for the HS, she runs the HS Shelter, and she writes the County ordinance. What control issues? Mishawaka and the County should stop contracting with her and the HS!

Posted by: Janet Location: Niles on May 21, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I recently tried to adopt a 10 week old kitten and was approved for adoption only to be told at the last minute that because I lived in Niles I would have to spay her within a couple days before I could take her and it had to be done in St. Joe County because they couldn't afford attorneys in other counties to track me down if I didn't keep my word of spaying her at an older age. I called one of the vets in SJC just to see if they would against my comfort level and they said absolutely not for a kitten that young, nor would my normal vet agree. I know Dr. Ecker and others say it's fine and no ill effects on babies. I was of course going to have her spayed as every pet I've owned are spayed/neutered which my Vet has the history and easily checked. But I wanted to do it at a more 'normal' age of 6 months, not on a tiny baby. My point in all of this is, I am a fantastic home and my pets eat the best foods and are cared for in an exemplary home. Yet they have over 100s living this way. Sad.

Posted by: Rescue Volnteer Location: Michiana on May 21, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Thanks to Ryan and the WNDU staff for airing this spot. It has needed to be done for a long time. Shelters are never 'pretty places', they are hard to walk into and to see what humankind has done to the animals that they were supposed to protect. The long term focus needs to be better spay/neuter programs and public education. The short term focus needs to be on the current conditions these animals are living in. I have experienced frustration personally in dealing w/ SJCHS - There have been animals that could be pulled for rescue that were not allowed to leave and allow more space to the existing animals. The conditions are not acceptable there currently. A deep concern is for the animals, they have been subjected to small carriers and kennels for long amounts of time, the chance of being 'kennel crazy' is extremely high and this in turn can cause a poor adoption option for these animals. How is this helping these animals. STEP UP PEOPLE, THIS IS YOUR SHELTER - MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!

Posted by: Anne Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 10:47 AM
To Laurie-I fear if we do nothing more than donate more money, nothing will change there. Dr. Ecker will just find a way to pocket all the donations, and things will go on just the way they are. I don't blame the employees, I am sure most of them try their very best. It is Carol Eckers fault that it has gotten this far. Something HAS to change for the sake of these poor animals! BTW, what is this "death tank" thing? I thought that they would have to cremate animal remains.

Posted by: J Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 10:41 AM
If we stop paying the facility, how are these animals going to live. I heard they have the land, It would be nice if someone like habitat could do something for the animals for a change.

Posted by: BIG time animal lover Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 10:39 AM
That video is sickening, I can't stop crying for those poor cats. It sounds to me like Carol Ecker is an animal hoarder, as well as many other things. It is not fair to let those animals live in those conditions. I am sure many of them would be better of euthanized. It is sad, very sad, but true. I wish I could adopt one or two, but I can't. Plese, people, if any of you out there can adopt a pet from this horrible place, do it soon. I fear their time is going to be running out after this series has finshed airing on TV. My heart breaks for them. These animals did not ask to be treated this way.

Posted by: Roger Location: Granger on May 21, 2008 at 10:31 AM
I have sent all your comments to the St. Joseph County Prosecutor's Office, With some help there we might be able to get something done to help the animals. Roger Address: 227 W. Jefferson Blvd. Suite 1000 South Bend, Indiana 46601 Telephone: 574.235.9544

Posted by: Tired Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 10:19 AM
This is another example of Dr. Ecker's control issue. first she railroads the county residents with the communist like ordinance to control you and your animals then she treats those under her control like this. GET RID OF HER county commissioners

Posted by: Pet Lover Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 10:15 AM
About 20 years ago I worked with someone on the board, and offered help in the planning of fundraisers. It all fell on deaf ears. Here I was ready to jump in with both feet and volunteer to help raise money and not ONE person took me up on that...not even the person I knew!! Amazing! To this day, I never see fundraising advertising anywhere in public. It's like they only reach out to their memebers. Surely they can find a way to reach more people. I know it is not cheap or easy to take care of so many animals, but it seems like the situation never improves. I just pray that this story doesn't make those that give to the Humane Society (money or items) stop because they are upset, the animals are the only ones that would suffer. Hopefully this story will spark outrage and changes will be made. These animals only ask for love...we owe it to them.

Posted by: mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 09:58 AM
I hope the county prosecutors read this and watch the story. They may have a large criminal case here. Be the community's hero and look into this. The community pays tax dollars that pays the contracts for this service. The community DEMANDS better quality service! What has happened to animal control? last year and the year before they at least had a few staff members that knew what they were doing. Currently they look and act unprofessional, it looks like anyone could run in circles like they do. What happened to the staff that knew what they were doing? Your staff is only as good as your leader. Change is needed.

Posted by: goshen on May 21, 2008 at 09:46 AM
last night there were 34 comments so why are there 21 now? are some being pulled ? or being miss linked. please fix this wndu.

The story you are referring to is still on the site. It was the preview article for part one. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Niles on May 21, 2008 at 09:41 AM
animal hoarding and warehouseing is a mental medical disease that needs medical attention. look it up... as for the comments why to why no one has done anything about changing the director. well people have and people have been fired , discarded and tormented legally for trying . The dr knows too many people and somehow makes things disapear. A family member of mine worked there and they stayed for a long time hoping for change and the guilt of who would make sure the animals are at least fed and watered, petted, and talked to. the only way the director can be changed is for the county commissioners and mayors etc... to force her out kicking and screaming.

Posted by: Former Employeer Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 09:38 AM
Dr. Carol Ecker is the problem with the shelter. She thinks all of the money and donations are her personal funds. She has Iron-fisted controlled the shelter and the Board of Directors for years. Using her "thugs" to control people. THey have had these so-called "new shelter plans" for 20 years. Yeah right. The local governments need to stop paying until a clean out happend. The shelter has deplorable conditions. I am sure you didn't get to go into the room where they euthanise, it is awful. I refuse to let animals be taken there because they will be killed. I really hope something is finally done to expose them.

Posted by: Roger Location: Granger on May 21, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Please quit with all the BULL____!!! and all the recomendations, and who was good and who was bad. HELP the animals! they are helpless, its not their fault that they did not have good homes or people that took care of them, Did you ever think that these animals are runaways just like young children that are not happy at home. Stop this inhumane treatment of the animals. This is just like all the other political BULL----!! Gee lets spend $45,000.00 on a committee to see what can be done. Get someone to go into the Humane society like the board of health, someone that can shut them down immediatly and rectify the situation. Roger

Posted by: all this talk on May 21, 2008 at 09:35 AM
What about the children who are killed in the womb? Let's concern ourselves with both of those issues. People first.

Posted by: Shawandar Location: C-Bus on May 21, 2008 at 09:18 AM
That's crazy who put animals in things like that. If i knew my cat was in a trashy place like that I'd be all up in someone's grill.

Posted by: Pet Lover Location: Elkhart on May 21, 2008 at 09:17 AM
I thought the St. Joseph County Humane Society was given acerage for a new facility over 2 years ago. Why haven't they started a campaign to raise money?! I've volunteered at the Elkhart Humane Society many many times and I can tell you from a first hand experience that nothing like this is happening there. Eric is doing a fantastic job and has made the Elkhart County Humane Society a fantastic place. Way to go Eric!!

Posted by: anon Location: IN on May 21, 2008 at 09:17 AM
If this place is a not-for-profit why are the fees so high for poor treatment. My pet recently got out and they charged 80 for me to get him back. 35 because they picked him up 25 for a first day fee when he wasn't even there 24 hours and 20 for medications he didn't need and would have known if they checked with the vet(yes he was wearing all his tags, vaccine, vet and microchip) he wasn't microchipped or IDed for hours even though I called every half hour to check to see if they had him. All of the staff was rude when I called to see if they had him--they put me off just so that they could rack up those additional fees. When I told my vet about this, he was devistated that the conditions are so horrible. Why do we pay for a license if they don't use it, the way it should be used. This is why most vets are against the license--the system doesn't work.

Posted by: Kelly Location: South Bend, IN on May 21, 2008 at 09:05 AM
They haven't even shown the worst part... the garage.

Posted by: Bob on May 21, 2008 at 09:02 AM
I thought this article was going to be about Joshua Kati, based on the headline. My bad . . .

Posted by: Concerned Location: anywhere on May 21, 2008 at 09:01 AM
I agree the conditions at the shelter are anything but humane, and something should be done soon. In addition, maybe all of us who are responsible pet owners should do our best to convince our neighbors, friends, family, etc. that breeding their dogs every 6 months is only helping to increase the number of unwanted pets. They don't stop to think about how many of their puppies eventually end up in the shelter. If you want to make money for a vacation get another job instead of treating your dogs like livestock!

Posted by: Wayne Location: South Bend In. on May 21, 2008 at 08:59 AM
My lady and i recently adopted a cat from the St. Joseph Humane Society and my lady said when she picked up our cat she refered the place to a "Hell Hole" for Animals. If they want to be a society for noneuthanasia then they better get a larger building according to the regulations of the HSUS. Rules for cats P. 1a and 2e. A HSUS investigater should be notified and follow up on this place.

Posted by: Matt Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 08:55 AM
"I've heard her say so on several occasions." Wow, Christine, case closed, that sounds like the evidence we needed. The money raised by a County Humane Society is not being used to fund anyone's personal endeavors. Do you people think there is nobody in the county watching where these dollars are coming and going? Anyways, the true problem is all the people abadoning pets for their own personal convenience. Once a pet is owned, it is a lifelong commitment, period. You wouldn't dump your kid off somewhere because they don't behave and you don't want them anymore. An animal is no different than a child, once they're part of your family, there should be no reason whatsoever that people should get rid of them. Human convenience is the major reason that shelters are overcrowded and that is sad. Everyone is an expert on running a shelter here. You complainers start putting your money and/or time where your mouth is and volunteer or donate to the animals!!

Posted by: Rich Location: Bremen on May 21, 2008 at 08:51 AM
What can we do to help?

Posted by: Tee Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 08:51 AM
In 1985, a new girl forgot to put a hold sticker on my dog and it was eithenized when I went to get him by the next morning by mistake. Not even an apology and one of the women working there seemed to enjoy the situation.

Posted by: Marie Location: Eureka Springs, AR on May 21, 2008 at 08:51 AM
I used to live in South Bend. This is deplorable. They should do like they do here. If you have a pet or stray to take to the humane society and they are full you get your name on a list and when there is an open space they call you to bring your animal in. It is as simple as that. You don't take more animals than you can hold. I know there would be exceptions, but you just don't allow more animals to be there than you can hold comforable.

Posted by: Connie Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 08:46 AM
This is very typical for Americans to wait until the issue is almost beyond resolve and then have the nerve to complain about the conditions at the Humane Society. Lets start with the Humans that dont care of cute kitty or puppy and then they end up on the street because they grow to big or they start howling when they reach a certain age. I also do not understand how the city has the right to tell you how many animals you can have in your home. I have plenty of room to add cats and dogs, but I have maxed out! Maybe we should change this and then the people who will care and love these animals can do what they do best. There are no restrictions on women and babies. Let me know when I can addopt more of these abandoned animals and I will be the first to sign up!

Posted by: Marj Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 08:45 AM
I have a sister who worked there 20 years ago. It was the same thing then with carol ecker get rid of her and get rid of the problem!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 08:45 AM
WNDU ought to do a financial audit of the Humane Society. That would be an even bigger story. The financial mismanagement of the HS borders on criminal. All the money donated to the HS for animals affected by Hurricane Katrina never left the state of Indiana.

Posted by: Bobbie Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 08:40 AM
I didn't want to watch this story as I would have bothered by it. This is St. Joseph County.....there is no need for these animals to be cared for like is. How can the Director and staff sleep at nights? Let us stop blowing a bunch of hot air and do something!

Posted by: Plain Jane Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 08:29 AM
I know Dr. Ecker and I know Eric. I can also tell who Dr. Ecker has monitoring this site and posting comments. Are you sweating yet Carol? A lot of your friends have been fed-up with the way you and your husband have been treating animals, esp. horses, for years. We just a bit afraid of you and what you can do. Hopefully your time of abusing animals and people is now over. Anyone want to take bets how long it will be till she tries to either shut this blog down or tries to get an order against the employees who are on camera?

Posted by: animal lover Location: elkhart on May 21, 2008 at 08:28 AM
I wanted to coment on the shelters because I went to the one in elkhart to adopt a dog and found an older white lab and tried 2 adopt him. I had 1 acre of property,fenced in with a large dog house,So I filled out the papers and one ? was would this be an indoor or outdoor animal. I checked indoor because I feel my pets should be indoors with their family not left outside, I was denied adoption of the white lab named Pete because he would be indoors most of the time. Now I would assume that he was put down because he was older and most people dont adopt the older ones but I wanted to save one and was not allowed to. So instead of going to a home where people would have loved him he was most likely put down. that would be one reason why they have so many animals

Posted by: SuZ Location: South Michigan on May 21, 2008 at 08:26 AM
Let's hear from the Pet Vet on Saturday and see what he thinks. If the director is a vet, what is the problem? What kind of a vet is she?

Posted by: Christine Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 08:06 AM
To Laurie: Are you one of Dr. Ecker's friends? She HAS the money to build a new shelter. I've heard her say so on several occassions. Now she's begging for more money. For what, her lawyer? Because it sure won't be used for the animals! And to Chrissy, things were not better under Eric Durcinka. They were just hidden better. What about the director who worked in between Durcinka and when Dr Ecker decided to not only control the board but the shelter as well? Why did she quit? If anyone else were to treat animals this way, they would have criminal charges against them. I'm urging public outcry against this woman to have something done THIS TIME.

Posted by: Kathy Location: Granger on May 21, 2008 at 08:06 AM
The only thing worse than death, is not being able to live life. I have had issues with the director..she changes the rules as she goes along. There have been many fund raisers for a supposed new building. Where is the building? Most of all, where is the money?

Posted by: Fay Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 08:02 AM
I agree with Laurie.Instead of complaining about the conditions, donate your money, your time, or adopt an animal. We just adopted a dog from the SJCHS and she was very well loved & she loved those who took care of her at the SJCHS. Obviously the conditions are less than ideal, but they are working toward building a new shelter, but have ran into problems on the land they purchased to do so. The human society is trying to place these animals into loving homes b/c so many people buy an animal for the novelty of it, but after realizing it's work, they discard them.Let's do an investigation into puppy mills and things that truly are disturbing, not a shelter trying to help. If you all feel so strongly about needing a new director, then why are you just saying so now that this news story has come out.Where have you been this whole time fighting for these animals? It's easy on a public forum to bash people and organizations, but it's a whole lot harder to do something about it!

Posted by: Someone from Mishawaka Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 08:00 AM
The employees of the Humane Society are only doing their job. Their director, Carol Ecker, is the one at fault. Sure, she can blame the public for the overpopulation epidemic, but once these animals became her responsibility she should have done everything she could to make them healthy and comfortable. Euthanasia is sometimes a necessary evil in the Humane Society world, and she knows that. Animals, unfortunately , are sometimes better off being euthanized as is the case right now. Ecker looks like she is a hoarder. When we dealt with hoarders in the public she would have been the first to say it was disgusting and the person at fault needed to be brought to justice. She is in over her head now and needs to realize it is her time to resign. I am so glad that WNDU finally went in to show the public what is really going on. Someone made a comment about how Ecker keeps saying they have raised money for a new shelter, maybe someone should investigate to see if that is true.

Posted by: Carrie Location: SB on May 21, 2008 at 07:48 AM
I went to school w/ Eric and when I saw he left SB for Elkhart I knew we were in trouble. He is an excellent human being and a wonderful person!! He has the heart and the know how to make it work. Come back Eric!!

Posted by: Dixie Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Thank you for running this story! Those of us who have dealt with this woman KNOW what is next. One: She will ask for more money (although she has millions put aside that is NOT being used for the animals. People leave money to the HS in their wills-a lot). Two: Dr Ecker will use her high-priced fancy attorney to shut everybody up using the well-known "we will sue you" threatening tactics. Three: She will use her political clout. She hates the former mayor, Joe Kernan (democrat) for "taking South Bend" from "her". She is a control freak. Dr. Ecker is trying to control the vet records and licencing through the Humane Society-not for the betterment of the animals but for her own ego. And to the INhumane Society board-this stuff has been brought forward before-many times. Quit the cover-up, get a backbone and get rid of the woman!

Posted by: Susan Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 07:45 AM
This shelter is completely awful. The conditions are terrible, and the staff (especially the director) treats people just as bad as they do the animals! Yet Mishawaka pays them over $100,000 a year. I've told Mayor Rae many times how bad it is over there, but he doesn't care. Stop paying this awful place!

Posted by: Mary Location: SB on May 21, 2008 at 07:42 AM
Several things obviously need to be done. Build the new shelter. I too have seen the "plans" for the new shelter. Why don't they work harder at getting more money, if that is what they need. Since they have an abundant amount of animals, they should attempt to make them "more adoptable". I adopted a cat from there. I didn't have a lot of money to spend on the animal, so I chose only from the cats that were already declawed and spayed. So how about petitioning the local vets to volunteer their services and DONATE the spay and neutering of cats and dogs. If nothing, atleast the neuterings, since its faster and easier. That should make many more animals go out the door, if people have a smaller initial cost for the animals. Maybe even see if some vets will donate a few hours a month during the summer and do exams on the animals that people want to take home, for free. Something has to be done to get the pet population at the humane society down, not ignore it.

Posted by: Linda Location: Goshen on May 21, 2008 at 07:37 AM
Has anyone thought of building a new facility or adding onto the old one so there's more room. What really gets me angry is the fact that if people that have pets would take good care of them the shelters wouldn't be so full of unwanted animals. No animal should be crammed into a small tiny space where they can't move and no animal should be mistreated. Any one who mistreats an animal would mistreat a child. Animals, especially cats and dogs depend on someone to care for them just as a child does. I've been to the humane society before and it's awful.

Posted by: WH on May 21, 2008 at 06:46 AM
How very sad this story is! I can't imagine a Humane Society treating animals like this. No animal should have to live in a small cage like that. I hope that this story will bring this to the attention of the proper authorities and there will be charges brought against whoever is responsible. How many times have we seen on tv this same agency take animals out of homes with improper living conditions for animals? I can't see where this is any different, especially from people who should know better. I can't even imagine anyone working there feeling that this is ok and wonder how they sleep at night knowing these poor innocent animals are being treated like this. I have always enjoyed the Adopt A Pet segments on WNDU but now I wonder how the people that bring the animals on there from the Humane Society can pretend that this problem doesnt exist in a facility they work in. Please, WNDU, make sure something is done about this!

Posted by: Me Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 06:31 AM
ANYONE that abuses any animal of any sort should be charged with a FELONY...Im sick & tired of jerks that treat animals bad..It should also be a law against IDIOTS that let their dogs ride in the bed of a open pick up truck! Would you take a chance of letting your child ride in a truck like this? One hit of a bump and thats all it would take.. What a world of IDIOTS we live in!!!!!!

Posted by: Robert Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 06:27 AM
Just wait until PETA finds out about this.

Posted by: Linda Location: Upstate NY on May 21, 2008 at 06:10 AM
The conditions there are disgusting. That place should be closed down immediately!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 21, 2008 at 05:53 AM
I recentally took my 16 year old into there to look for a dog the smell was so overwhelming as you entered the adoption are of cat urine there were cats sleeping in the litter boxes because there was no blankets or towels laid in the cage a good bleach cleaching really needed to be done nneedless to say it flaired my sons asthma up so bad he never made it to the back to see the dogs...

Posted by: Ann Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 02:14 AM
I remember, many years ago, when this same director was the director then & the conditions were deplorable, too! She's a Vet which I would never consider taking my animals to. Two family members went there to adopt a cat which had a respiratory illness. They told them that they would give it medicine & in a few days would let them adopt her when she was better. Well, the cat didn't get any better, so, the St. Joe Co. Humane Soc. said they were going to put her down. My relatives found out from someone working there, that this kitty hadn't even been given any medicine, so, they threatened to call the newspaper & all the TV stations & tell them what was going on. The Humane Soc. said they would take the cat to a VET. It was given a strong antibiotic & after becoming well, they were allowed to adopt it. I, also, know 2 people who worked there, who said it was a nasty place for the animals. It needs to be shut down.

Posted by: Rupert Location: Mish on May 21, 2008 at 01:17 AM
The Humane Society only has a no kill adoption center, all of the animals that live in the quarantine area are subject to euthanasia for spacing reasons or sickness.

Posted by: Diane Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 01:01 AM
Seems to me that these cats would be better off taken into the country and let loose to fend for themselves. I know if I were one of them, I'd rather be let free to do so instead of being holed up in a cage that I barely have room to turn around in and have my food and water 3 inches from my litterbox. This can't be healthy for these poor cats, either mentally or physically. What do the top vets say about this situation??

Posted by: Chrissy Location: South Bend on May 21, 2008 at 12:50 AM
For those like Laurie who have had a great experience in the PAST with SJCHS, that was when Eric Durinka was there. He made a huge difference. When he left, the place when to heck. And I mean that. You may think to yourself, at least they didn't euthanize them but where is the quality of life? When does that become more of an issue than euthanization rates? Unless you have seen the place within the last few months, then you really have no idea what you're talking about. And we all know who ends up suffering. No matter what happens, it's always the animals. I'm glad the public's eyes are being opened to this issue. I just hope you'll all listen.

Posted by: Someone who was interviewed on May 21, 2008 at 12:34 AM
HI! I was interviewed for this segment, and the problem ISN'T the employees or the animals. It's about the Director, Dr. Carol Ecker, and the HS of St. Joe County. They have "planning" for a new building for YEARS. Every 2 weeks they change the layout of the plans. Most of it isn't even functional, like releasing all dogs into a play area. THOSE DOGS WILL FIGHT. WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE: 1) Replace the director with someone who has run a shelter in the past. 2) BUY LARGER CAGES, because keeping animals in carriers is WRONG. 3) BUILD THE NEW SHELTER! They keep saying they will, and have a few "million" saved, but they don't. WE NEED A NEW DIRECTOR!!!!

Posted by: Laurie Location: Mishawaka on May 21, 2008 at 12:02 AM
While this story is disturbing, what is more disturbing is the fact that there are this many discarded animals! I have dealt with the St. Joseph County Humane Society several times over the years, and they have been wonderful. When South Bend refused to renew their contract with the H.S. a large amount of money was lost. They have been trying to raise enough money for a new shelter. If everyone who writes to condemn the shelter would donate some money, perhaps this problem can be eliminated. As a no kill shelter, they are doing the best they can with what's available. I commend the Humane Society and its' employees for their compassionate care. I have witnessed it both in the front and the back area that was shown on the report.

Posted by: YAY! on May 20, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Excellent! This is a great story. I think the answer is someone new to run the shelter!


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