Police identify suspect killed in robbery attempt
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Posted: 4:55 PM Jan 18, 2008
Last Updated: 6:27 AM Jan 20, 2008
Reporter: Erin Logan
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Police have identified the man who died in a shoot-out during an attempted robbery at a Niles bank on Friday.

Berrien County police say 22-year-old Devarence Damon Kimbrough from Elkhart was shot and died during surgery Friday.

Police say two men went inside the Berrien Teachers Credit Union Friday morning and announced they were robbing the place.

Police say the robbers and a security guard exchanged fire inside and outside the bank.

The men took off in a getaway car, driven by another suspect.

Kimbrough later turned up at South Bend's Memorial Hospital but died during surgery.

The same bank was robbed just a few months ago, causing people in this Niles neighborhood to compare notes--

Both happened around the same time of day and there were similar circumstances. In October, three black men walked into the bank armed, while a getaway driver waited outside.

The same thing happened Friday but this time, only two black men walked in and one ended up dead.

Just as they start to forget about the scene three months ago, people who live and work near the Berrien Teacher's Credit Union see it again.

Danny Schultz says, “It's kind of shocking especially now that they're shooting guns you know. Right now, I'm thinking about the people in the bank and what they're going through, the trauma.

Shultz used to work behind a cash register. He says he's glad he doesn't anymore

Tina Young, who works at a gas station steps away from the bank agrees.

Young says, “I sort of watch to see who comes here and if someone looks suspicious I lock the door and go get one of the guys.”

Skeeter Hargreaver, who works with Young says, “I think they're should be a guy because sometimes when you think somebody is going to come in, if they see a guy present they might think a little different.”

Young says nothing scares thieves and they seem to like this area.

She says, “The most recent one happened at a Marathon station.”

Shocked and scared is the obvious reaction to a robbery close to home but, what really has people talking is how the robbery ended here.

Hargreaver says, “Movies, yeah sometimes your bank robbers end up dead there.”

This time it happened it Niles.

He says, “I figure usually they get the money and go.”

They did go. Now, one man is dead and two men are somewhere out there armed.

Shultz says, “It's kind of scary that they could come back and do it over.”

A number of people we talked to say they believe the people responsible for this robbery are the same men who got away in October.

Again, police haven't confirmed whether the two are related.

Witnesses say they saw them leave in a four door gray sedan with Indiana plates.

If anyone has any information, they are urged to contact the Berrien County Sheriff’s Department Detective Bureau.

Stay with NewsCenter 16 for more on this developing story.

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Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Feb 3, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Does this mean I win?

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Diane: I was with you up until the stoning. Biblically speaking, isn't the old saying "Let he (or she, if you want to modernize it) who is without sin cast the first stone?" Sir Isaac Newton's laws of motion can't be applied to these types of human actions with the proper precision. If we were talking about the acceleration of massive particles, then yes. Even if applied to this situation, as stated before, there are many missing variables. I think you are getting police mixed with security as well, since guards are hired to 'observe and report.' On morality, once again, isn't it just slightly immoral to judge someone? Think about that before beating the Bible.

Posted by: Diane Location: Michigan on Jan 29, 2008 at 06:12 PM
What ever happened to morality??? Moral decay has severely eroded the principles, which our founding fathers established. Biblically speaking the other two should be stoned to death. Every action will have an equal or opposite reaction. It is called a consequence for our actions. Unfortunately for him, his consequence was death. The guard did what he was hired to do, serve and protect!

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 29, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Kat: I wasn't aware that I was living my life in fear. I also wasn't aware that scrutinizing action amounted to 'what if' thinking. Based on simple information, and not knowing if the guard acted lawfully, how can you draw such a conclusion? Maybe you too should demand further coverage and investigations into what heppened, and not have to read about a few area residents - not related to the story - give their 'eye witness' accounts for what they didn't even see happen, especially when one of the comments seems suspiciously lined with undertones of prejudice. Thug: Good to know I won't be 'Thugged.' I am left to wonder, gathering the hints that you are a criminal yourself, what your take on this is. Does the shooting deter you from robbing, or does it make you try to 'one-up' the competition? If you truly are who you hint to be, I think you offer the perspective most here are looking for.

Posted by: Kat Location: Dowagiac Mi on Jan 29, 2008 at 02:34 PM
If your always thinking about "what if" or "could have", your living your life in fear. To afraid of what might happen if you do something that needs to be done. Plus it keeps the criminals coming back for more. That guard did the right thing.

Posted by: Thug Location: SB on Jan 29, 2008 at 02:32 PM
Mike this is Thug no thank you on your invatation. It sounds like I might get hurt coming to your house. I would much prefer to visit Chaz. He would not mind giving me $2,000.00. After all he is insured so he will get the money back. I am sure he would not hurt me even if I shot him (may-be he can talk me out of shoting him). It is so good to know their are "Idiots" like Chaz in South Bend. I sure hope Mayor Lucke can get him some kind of grant money for Chaz. All my friends will want to know about him. Mike what is your address so I do not make a mistake and come to your house. Thank you from the streets of South Bend.

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 29, 2008 at 01:10 PM
Thug: Are you writing from prison? If not, you are welcome to try and rob from me. You need not fear gunshot wounds, but you most certainly aren't getting away scott free. If this is why you like the SB area, then I hope this is your confession that leads to a nice stay in a state-run hotel. Chaz: Right on, the fact that there was a shoot-out inside the bank, it's a miracle there were no further injuries. I wonder if this cowboy wannabe cop was wearing a vest, or had shoot / don't shoot training. Three semi-automatic pistols versus one six-shooter? I am strongly suspicious of this whole thing. Bank tellers are trained to deal with robbers. The guard could have endangered the customers further had there been a hostage situation, or a stray bullet in a child. Where would your praise be then?

Posted by: Thug Location: SB on Jan 29, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Chaz whats your address, I look forward to meeting you soon. Please have $2,500.00 ready for our meeting, Oh and the title to the car and the house. Now I know why I came to South Bend and enjoy staying here!

Posted by: Chaz Location: South Bend on Jan 29, 2008 at 10:04 AM
So I'm crazy because I don't think I'd endanger people's lives to save some money or property? I'll tell you what, if somebody comes to my house with a gun and says they want money, they'll get it. Nothing I have is worth further endangering me or my family. Stuff I can easily replace. Had that security guard not been there, no shots would have been fired. The very fact that shots were fired means that the customers in that bank were put in greater danger. No thanks. Give them the money. The average bank robber gets away with less than $2000 and without any violence. Is there any way you'd risk a loved one's life for $2000? If so, I question your judgement.

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 28, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Paul: What medal would that be? I would like to see you find such a medal, and don't say the Presidential Medal of Freedom. He's no college professor. Please stop jumping to such conclusions, and I am still waiting for certain news outlets to do follow-up investigations.

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 28, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Spy: Drinks? Alright, then, I'll take you up on that, if our paths ever cross. We'll share some stories. However, as I remember, Operation Desert Storm lasted a little more than six months, and actual ground operations lasted only a couple. I don't doubt your combat action, but I know this to be a much different war. I know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of bullets and mortars, much more so than having the 'enemy' in my sights. I had the opportunity to use diplomacy and tact to gather intelligence more than muscle. I learned to use my mind, and to get to know what I was supposed to fear. I learned a lot in that year plus in the heart of danger, and it all came from understanding the people, not the instrument. To simply say that force will deter is a bit arrogant, if not ignorant. I am not clear on your last response, though. Pretty much everything after, "Fight for someone elses freedom and can't have it here..." Please clarify, I don't understand.

Posted by: Paul Location: Plymouth on Jan 28, 2008 at 01:18 PM
The guard should get a medal from President Bush and Governor Granholm.

Posted by: Spy Location: Edwardsburg on Jan 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Don't bet on it mike..Desert storm, ground pounder, right with the tanks...see you at the VFW, buy you a drink (or twenty) I do not underestimate the power nor the finality of a bullet. Fight for someone elses freedom and can't have it here... "I've been shot at more than any one of you here, both as an officer, and as an Army MP in Baghdad. I may not have a Masters, but my experiences show for themselves. At least I still have civility."

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 27, 2008 at 03:15 PM
To WNDU: Never mind, posting comments is fun. I see nothing wrong with discrediting ignorant people. Your lack of information in reporting, though, needs to improve. In over a week, there have been no new developments in the case. Where is your interview with Sheriff L. Paul Bailey? Where is your interview with the president of Seventrees? Where is the interview with the guard? With the officers and deputies on scene? Please, more information so that people don't jump to such stupid conclusions. Knowledge is the greatest weapon.

The police are not talking because their investigation is on going and the company has refused all requests for interviews. WNDU is continuing to follow this story and will have more as events develop. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 27, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Trixybelladonna: Right on! I agree completely. Study the crime, don't jump to such ridiculous conclusions. Looks like someone here is actually using their brain! Laura: You sound just as bad as any murderer. Ron: Don't surround yourself with the lack of facts, and assumptions. If, indeed, the guard acted in accordance with applicable laws, then yes, hooray for him. Otherwise, he is just part of the problem. AnotherMike: Maybe I do, Mike. Maybe I do. Maybe only due to the lack of intellect in this discussion. My license as a police officer is still active, but thanks to the lack of jobs, I can't find another one. Great suggestion, I'll try to make my career work. Thanks for the suggestion. By the way, I've been shot at more than any one of you here, both as an officer, and as an Army MP in Baghdad. I may not have a Masters, but my experiences show for themselves. At least I still have civility.

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 27, 2008 at 02:25 PM
Spy: A Masters in Accounting and a Glock hardly makes you the leading authority on robberies or crime in general. I have experience in the matter, and as an ex-police officer, I would rather have seen this turn out much differently. No robberies in over a week? I don't call that coincidence, I call it specious. To say one robbery gone wrong deters crime everywhere? Come on, for a Masters graduate, you should be way smarter. Statistically. $500.75 versus prison? Death for those who inconvenience us? Historically, there has been someone who made that call. Hitler. And, I hear, he got "sadistic glee" from it as well. Beth: Yes, let's turn our due process system into the Chinese system. That will fix everything. The zero repeat rate is probably due to the policy of executions on the spot. That might correlate to the observation from outsiders that there is a low crime rate. I'm still waiting for something to be brought to the table.

Posted by: Trixybelladonna Location: Indiana on Jan 27, 2008 at 01:19 PM
Hi to Spy from Edwardsburg! Greetings from my humble abode where I am currently studying for my S.J.D. Just a thought, but do you honestly believe that just because you have 'a masters degree in Accounting and a CPA' you can't possibly be an 'ignorant savage'? Lol! Saddam Hussein and other ruthless killers went to university and obtained a degree... I consider Saddam an 'ignorant savage'. I think both you and Saddam have something in common: The need to kill if someone inconveniences you. The way you wrote of pine boxes and bullets paints a pretty picture of you in general. The word malicious comes to mind. If we were in a bragging competition, my accomplishments beat yours to a pulp. It doesn't take a university graduate to distinguish right from wrong. Even people who haven't experienced robbery have a valid opinion. Take each robbery with a pinch of salt and find out the specifics and facts. Each incident is not the same. Judgment purely based on face value is not enough.

Posted by: Trixybelladonna Location: Indiana on Jan 27, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Dearest Laura from Elkhart: Fight fire with fire huh? It's encouraging to know that there are people out there who welcome Baghdad into their streets; just like you. Threats like 'Do not try to rob a bank in MI that may end your life' do not deter the criminals, it creates a stronger breed who care less about the consequences of their actions, ready and willing to overstep the boundaries you place in front of them. Criminals are like flies. Although the poison will kill some, those who survive will be immune and perhaps mutate into something much harder to kill. Keep a clean house to avoid these pests, eliminate their breeding grounds. Get rid of the 'ghetto'. Provide people with a solid roof over their heads, food in their fridges, an education with the same potential for progression to the best colleges; eradicate the subculture that gives a higher status to individuals who steal and kill. Laura wants a battlefield. I prefer peace. In other words: Be more humane and less savage.

Posted by: Ron Location: Niles on Jan 27, 2008 at 12:10 PM
The security guard did his job, and I thank him and respect the bank for their decision to use a security firm. Life is about choices we make every day and we reap the benefits or pay the price based on those choices. Their reasons, age, sex, race, education or social background does not make a difference. They made the choice to commit a crime, and came armed ready to take life for their own gain. A message was sent on that day, now that message needs to be reinforced. Those of you who really care about those who make bad choices take it to the streets and help them before it’s too late. Once a bad choice is made you reap the consequences of that choice. If you support the out come and bank at TCU let them know, if you bank elsewhere let them know how you feel. Keep your eyes open cell phones on and report crime when you see it. Bring more of our young men and women home from Iraq it’s apparent that we need them here first. Take time to thank a solider, a cop, a teacher ever…

Posted by: Ron Location: Niles on Jan 27, 2008 at 12:09 PM
The security guard did his job, and I thank him and respect the bank for their decision to use a security firm. Life is about choices we make every day and we reap the benefits or pay the price based on those choices. Their reasons, age, sex, race, education or social background does not make a difference. They made the choice to commit a crime, and came armed ready to take life for their own gain. A message was sent on that day, now that message needs to be reinforced. Those of you who really care about those who make bad choices take it to the streets and help them before it’s too late. Once a bad choice is made you reap the consequences of that choice. If you support the out come and bank at TCU let them know, if you bank elsewhere let them know how you feel. Keep your eyes open cell phones on and report crime when you see it. Bring more of our young men and women home from Iraq it’s apparent that we need them here first. Take time to thank a solider, a cop, a teacher ever…

Posted by: Beth Location: Goshen on Jan 27, 2008 at 12:34 AM
We should investigate the Chinese rehabiltation methods for offenders. They have a Zero Percent repeat rate. I don't know what they do, but we should employ the process immediately!

Posted by: AnotherMike Location: Michigan on Jan 26, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I noticed your use of "other lack wits" Do I detect an air of intellectual superiority? Good, Because I can tell you from personal experience that nothing sharpens your senses like a hormone enraged drugged out kid sticking a gun in your ear. Perhaps your generosity will be extended to the person who robs you someday If you think everyone elses comments are so wrong and ignorant and unjust,just become a cop.They are always helpful, friendly and outmanned and outgunned! You would probably be real good at reasoning your way out of violent situations. I am sure it happens like that in real life. You just don't get it. People are sick of taking crap, and spending their life looking over their shoulder scared. People have tried to make this into a race thing, a mean spirited thing, and you have now turned it into an intellectual superiority thing. It's a scared people thing, become a cop, offer up some courage Posted by MIke: "I've been offered that solution by several other lack-wits"

Posted by: Laura Location: Elkhart on Jan 26, 2008 at 10:57 PM
To all the would be bank robbers: Do not try to rob a bank in MI that may end your life. Kill or be killed, I am going to kill. You have a weapon and you attempt to hurt me or an innocent person around me I am going to kill you or die trying. If you do not agree with this then, DO NOT TRY IT! I will have no regrets, Will you?

Posted by: Spy Location: Edwardsburg on Jan 26, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Mike, I bring plenty to the table, I have been in two robberies in Elkhart, I generally bring a Glock. And no, I most certainly am not an ignorant savage, I have a masters degree in Accounting and a CPA. If you have no experience in such stuff, I would strongly suspect you have no basis for any type of input on the matter whatsoever. This blog has the views of people who are generally unhappy with the system as it prevails. I actually hope to see more of this...I notice no armed robberies occured this week...coincidence? Statistically speaking, it does't take a regression analysis to see that criminals are thinking twice. Yes, I enjoy a success story like this with sadistic glee... Pine box $100 bucks Plot of ground $500 Bucks Bullet $.75 bucks Price of housing a federal prisioner a year $36,000 Time twenty Years $720,000 Average Americans Tax burden per National Debt $34,100 The thought of saving three quarter of a million dollars and eliminating a criminal...Priceless!

Posted by: Trixybelladonna Location: Indiana on Jan 26, 2008 at 10:15 PM
I agree with Mike. Everything on this page revolves around what people are saying about this incident. It seems the journalist forgot about good journalism and thorough reporting and relied on the easy hearsay to write the article above. Where are the facts? Names of people who were directly involved in the robbery, security guard, who shot first? This article lacks so much. I think WNDU and it's lazy reporters need to be re-educated about what makes good reporting. Also, it is incredibly bias. This article sounds like 'just another black shooting'. It's not. Every incident is different and I would like to know what the specifics were in this one. Thanks

You need to remember this is one of the many stories we did covering one of the many angles of this incident. This is still a developing story and a lot of the information is not known or is not being released to the public for various reasons. Stay with NewsCenter16 and WNDU.com for further details on this story. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 26, 2008 at 08:40 PM
Spy: I don't see you bringing much to the table, either. I doubt you meant that to be a pun, in respect to the article, but it was funny. Z: I've been offered that solution by several other lack-wits, and no, I will not heed it. Simple human nature in us all drives us to finish even the most pointless of endevours. Anonymous: I see you took expended great thought in your reply. With the money left over from the WNDU-Mike TV merger, I will buy you an Oxford Dictionary, and a Webster's Dictionary. What can I say, I'm generous.

Posted by: Spy Location: Edwardsburg on Jan 26, 2008 at 06:37 PM
I strongly suspect in a battle of wits you will show up woefully unarmed. The warm fuzzy bunny articles are three doors back. Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan To the WNDU Staff... Again: So, basically, you want me to get into an online confrontation

Posted by: Z Location: Indiana on Jan 26, 2008 at 06:27 PM
Mike - simple solution: Stop scrolling down when you get to the end of the article. It will be like the comments are not even there!!! Obviously you do want to know what the average Joe is saying if you take the time to go all the way to the bottom of the page to read comments.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 26, 2008 at 05:53 PM
Mike go buy yourself a television station and you can do what ever you like. I betting you will go broke in no time!

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 26, 2008 at 01:01 PM
OK, WNDU, you win. I must get in on this debate, since the public is obviuosly right every time. "If you don't like what others post, then don't read the comments." Brilliant. That must take it's strength from "If you don't like the US, then leave," or simply "Love it or leave it." I know there's no way I can possibly get it through your heads, but opinions belong on a separate page from the main article. Of course I won't like some of the things people say, and yes, I do realize I am a huge hypocrite for even responding. It's nice to see that WNDU decided to take another comment out completely. So much for freedom of speach, eh?

Posted by: Stunned Location: Elkhart on Jan 26, 2008 at 02:19 AM
At long last...a news organization with a set of balls, thank god I lived long enough to see it. Now if you could loan some of your staff to ABC, CBS and Fox it would be greatly appreciated!

Posted by: Slade Location: Mishawaka on Jan 26, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Mike, if you don't like what others post then don't read the comments. Read only the article that WNDU post, and let it go. WNDU is right on with their comment. Nobody forces you to read the comments and nobody says you have to believe what they say. Its called freedom of speech and WNDU gives the public a forum to express that freedom. Thank you WNDU.

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 25, 2008 at 11:54 PM
To the WNDU Staff... Again: So, basically, you want me to get into an online confrontation. By telling others that their opinion is ignorant, I am becoming part of the problem. I will not become part of the entertainment that way. I'm not telling you to ignore the viewpoints, I'm saying that the viewpoints should not be attached to the main article. What people have to say regarding a news story is not important, it clouds other's view of the story, thus destroying the whole point of reporting. If I wanted to read what people think, I'd seek out their own personal blog. The best interest of the facts is far more important than the best interest of any public forum, unless that public discussion is held separately from the main article. Simply: Let me make my own determination of what happened based on the facts. Also, please report more on this story, I'd like to learn more. Thank you.

Posted by: Sarah Location: South Bend on Jan 25, 2008 at 11:37 PM
(to mike) if you don't care about the comments, don't read the comments, duh

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Jan 25, 2008 at 07:58 PM
To the WNDU staff: Why the hell do you allow morons to post their comments? All I read here is blood-thirsty quips, ignorant assumptions, or pointless moronic rhetoric. I don't want to know what Average Joe / Jane Indiana has to say about a news story. I don't see how most of these opinions enhance the story. Please, print and post the facts, not mindless crap.

If you do not like what someone says, let them know. If you think what someone says is stupid, write back and say why. Asking us to ignore viewpoints isn't in the best interest of a public forum. -WNDU.com


Posted by: Citizen Location: St. Joseph, Mi on Jan 25, 2008 at 08:06 AM
I am moving my money to their credit union. I am sad for this man, (the guy doing his job) it is going to be hard on him for a while. The only regret I can see from this action is, He mised the other two. Could have saved the tax payers a bunch of money. From the welafare they collect to the jail time when they get caught. I do think they need to be certified to carry a gun. That way they become better shots.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 24, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Chaz in South Bend you are an IDIOT. Please list your address so any thugs or just desperate persons will know where to go to get a couple of thousand dollars. By listing your address no one else will have to worry about being shot or harmed. I am confident you will be able to reason with them (thugs or just desperate persons) when they pull their loaded guns on you.

Posted by: Me Location: Warsaw on Jan 24, 2008 at 03:07 PM
I say props to the guard and Props to the U.s. Army for training him well! Thank you sir for protecting those in the bank and for protecting every American for serving over in Iraq! We need more men like you! I say if this other guy wanted to carry a gun and be a tough guy HE should have joined the forces...then maybe he would know what earning an honest living feels like? Hey that's just my thought?!?

Posted by: Tôm Location: South Bend on Jan 23, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Such language ashly. No one sins like that guy, that's why he's fertilizer. It's all in the Bible.

Posted by: victor Location: Mishawaka on Jan 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM
In China the criminals who die or are executed have their organs harvested. I would suspect that this is probably going to be this guy's fate too.Won't be too long before he winds up on the shelf of the neighborhood sports supplement and nutrition store.

Posted by: godlovesyou Location: Niles on Jan 23, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Just a guess Ashley, but the first stone was a probably a hollowpoint...Gods very own "Pro quid pro" (something for something) Posted by: ashly Location: elkhart Don't judge him, let those without sin cast the first stone. Till then shut up.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: elkhart on Jan 23, 2008 at 04:23 PM
my prayers go out to his friends and family.

Posted by: ashly Location: elkhart on Jan 23, 2008 at 04:02 PM
Don't judge him, let those without sin cast the first stone. Till then shut up.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM
hello, this isnt saving anyone tax dollars, had this man lived, he would have been forced to speak to the feds, and we would have had all 3 people in custody. I dont think prison is an easy life, either. I would rather pay to keep them in prison, than have them out in 6 months doing the same crimes, people, had we kept him in for his full term and paid for it, none of this would have happened. These perceived saved tax dollars are now being spent on an even more expensive investigation in 2 states to find the accomplices. Further, his own partners watched him bleed for hours before dumping him off to die. This is all bad, and the guard did what he had to do to protect people and it isnt his fault the man died due to the accomplices greed and selfishness. Had his so called friends gotten him to the hospital sooner and not let him bleed to death, everyone would be in jail with the case closed. No one wins in this story.

Posted by: Sarah Location: South Bend on Jan 23, 2008 at 02:27 AM
PLAIN AND SIMPLE, we all know the banks have security, we all know they have guns, we all know why they are there, he willing went into the bank to rob it, he made the decision to take that risk and he paid the price, noones fault but his own. For all those people who are angry for everyone applauding the security, why? They are doing their jobs. If this robber would of shot one of your loved ones, it would be whole different story. Like I said he made a concious decision, knew what the consequences could be and went for it

Posted by: proudmom Location: elkhart on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:52 PM
Erika..how well did you know your cousin cause I say not very well to know he was not empolyed by his chioce he made the choice to rob banks as a easy way out and a way to look good, I am sure his parents are so disappointed in there son since I hear they live not here but left him here. Maybe the ones (friends) that are already locked up will change there ways and see that its not worth all this. He had no children just a drug habit and yeah his bling bling that he wore. What if that was you standing the bank and you had no idea it was your cousin behind that mask, would you feel the same way?? I am shocked your not not from elkhart and livinf off the sysytem as the rest seem to be. Wow maybe you start looking at his so called buddies, You know the ones who thought of themselves and left your cousin outside the hospital so they wouldn't get caught. Its a matter of time and the talk is already there before one gets caught and then it all will fall and then you will see him as a THUG!

Posted by: Just Missed It By 10 Minutes Location: Niles on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:41 PM
I was at the Credit Union about 10 minutes before this happened with my 1 yr old son. I can't imagine what I would have done had I been running late and been there when this happened. I keep asking my self if someone could have looked into the future for this young man and said to him "If you keep down the road you are going, you will be shot to death while robboing a bank when you are 22 years old" Would that have changed his life? We can only guess. As a mother I pray that my son never experiences anything like this, as the secutiry guard or the young man whose life is gone. Hug you children and teach them right from wrong no matter what you have to do. This could have turned out alot worse than one person losing their life, there are usually 4-5 tellers working at this location and they were shooting toward them.

Posted by: former bank teller Location: south bend on Jan 22, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Erika- I don't care how tough life gets- you DON"T go out and take what is not yours! It's not just black males- it's ANY males. These boys have a brain, they can decide for themselves what to do in life. They just take the easy way out. No one wants to work for anything anymore, they want it handed to them. If parents would punish their children when they do something wrong, we wouldn't have this huge problem. Society has parents so scared to punish their children that they now run wild. Yes, I am talking about spanking their back sides! It worked on me when I was little, it made me respect my parents and it works with my children too. I REFUSE to let my children become the disrespectful, theiving brats that are in our society today. Everyone needs to put their foot down with their children and take control. WE are the parents, we rule the roost. If we don't change as parents, our children will never change. I don't care what the economy is or if there is a father at home.

Posted by: another one bitest he dust Location: mishawaka on Jan 22, 2008 at 09:54 AM
great job, security guard! too bad the other 2 CRIMINALS weren't taken out as well!

Posted by: Oh, Shut Up Already! Location: Mishawka, IN on Jan 21, 2008 at 09:39 PM
Erika - who cares if it was your cousin. Times are hard - but chances are your cousin would have bought rims for a car and shined some Coogie jeans with his "take". He isn't exactly Robin Hood! He's a thief and a thug. And now he's a corpse because of his own INTENTIONAL act of illegal activity! This man was far from a saint! And people like you that defend his "mistakes" are the reason more people are like this. So go to the funeral of the thief - wearing what I'm sure will be a white T-Shirt saying something about RIP - You'll be missed, etc.... with his picture plastered on the front - and then a year from now it'll fade just like his legacy of what he intended it to be.... I'll forget about him... I mean afterall - I don't give much thought to morons after their 15 minutes of fame is spalshed across local headlines - because they are now named America's Dumbest Criminals! My children now live in a little more a safer world. One down - many more to go!

Posted by: patron Location: niles on Jan 21, 2008 at 09:33 PM
Thank-you to the security guard who kept the emplyees at the CU safe,as a member I'm going to feel better when I have to go in there to do my business.

Posted by: MD Location: South Bend on Jan 21, 2008 at 05:35 PM
Ericka, your cousin was in the wrong and could have taken away some innocent lives. Don't try to justify the situation.

Posted by: jim Location: sb on Jan 21, 2008 at 04:37 PM
thanks dj...i couldn't of said any better..

Posted by: Luke Location: Mishawaka on Jan 21, 2008 at 04:20 PM
Someone had to die because of a poor choice. Thank God it was only him. The people of South Bend need to stand up for what is right. The problem isn't thy Mayor or society. What the community is doing to itself is tearing SBI apart. No wonder so many people of diff races are moving to other locations in our community. Your family structure is poor and it desperately needs change. Today is about more then civil rights. Today needs to be about change! The minorities, whites or whoever should all take a look at themselves in the mirror and realize that change is needed. To much violence! I'm glad for everything I don't deal with living in Mishawaka!

Posted by: chad Location: elkhart on Jan 21, 2008 at 04:10 PM
dave, get a brain, lay off the meds. quote where i justified robbing a bank. wait, wait, i know that's too much to ask of you while you are under the influence of thorazine, so i'll spell it out for you. I DIDN'T. i'm just sick of self righteous people like yourself wishing death on fellow americans. all of you people hatefully gloating over this guys death, are the same people who almost stoned a woman to death in front of Jesus because she broke, "THE LAW". hypocrites.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 21, 2008 at 02:27 PM
I am a single parent and my children know right from wrong and by NO means would they go that low in life. HE WAS THUG, look at his family and I can say this only cause my children knew him sure they felt bad but they said he got what he deserved lain an simple. I am so greatful my kids saw what they were becoming in life and turn that friendship off. I met that boy once and it wasn't a nice time we argued and he told he would be back now I wonder if he would have used a gun, no wonder he always ran and made others take his rap for guns and weed charges. This is one less person I have to support with my taxes. We allpay for it in higher insurance or welfare for all the kids he wouldn't take care just like his brother, I have friend whos doing that now while hes away on paid vacation by everyone.. Nice life....

Posted by: dj Location: sj on Jan 21, 2008 at 01:09 PM
Chad--grow up! How can you claim that a convicted felon that is commiting an armed robbery has more HONOR than the rest of us law-abiding citizens who work hard and do the best we can? He was a THUG, and I'm just glad he's out of the world before he took an innocent person. And if you needed to know: Honor (noun): Principled uprightness of character; personal integrity. A code of integrity, dignity, and pride, chiefly among men, that was maintained in some societies, as in feudal Europe, by force of arms. He showed no honor in his actions. And what christian mercy was he showing in bringing in a gun to a place of business. Does the phrase Do unto others ring a bell with you? He came prepared to hurt or kill...he received what he deserved.

Posted by: dave on Jan 21, 2008 at 12:58 PM
chad get a life, You need some meds. You can't justify robbing a bank in anyway. It's too bad only one of these guy's were shot. It should have been all 3. Who's life is worth more? The one who adds to society or the one who takes from it?

Posted by: Alan Location: Elkhart on Jan 21, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I am glad that this career criminal's next victim will not be a member of my family or a friend. This individual decided his own fate a long time ago. I'm sure none of this individuals former friends that he robbed or ripped off are feeling that bad about his demise.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 21, 2008 at 11:48 AM
The way I look at this incident is, these robbers went into this bank with LOADED guns. They had all intentions of using them if need be. Looks like they were just a little too late. Good job to the security guard. I think all banks need to have an officer there during all hours.

Posted by: Chaz Location: South Bend on Jan 21, 2008 at 11:37 AM
I don't care if he's a thug or just a desperate person. My point is that in most cases, the thief walks in, asks for money and walks out. Many times the other customers barely notice anything has happened until the guy leaves. That's how I'd prefer it happens. If there's a guard there the criminal may feel compelled to shoot at him or take a hostage. Sure we all pay for insurance for the banks but if somebody you loved was killed in a bank shootout over a couple grand, would it be worth it or would you rather the guy just got the money and left? It's just not worth risking lives over a couple grand.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 21, 2008 at 09:29 AM
wow there are people defending the robber maybe Ishould post all the names of known friends that I know of and let the police see, oh wait I did that.... ok boys they will get you loose lips sink ships..

Posted by: Bill Location: South Bend on Jan 21, 2008 at 07:49 AM
This wasn't a "mistake" by some poor misunderstood youth, this was a CRIME but a street thug plain and simple! Quit trying to blame society because some idiot wanted to take the easy way instead of working like almost everyone done to make ends meet. The guard is a hero and that is all there is to it

Posted by: former bank teller Location: south bend on Jan 21, 2008 at 07:10 AM
to Anonymous,it doesn't matter if he made a bad decision or not, HE WAS A THUG! If you have to rob a bank and have a shoot out to get money, YOU ARE A THUG! He had a history of theft, it wasn't just a bad decision, it was a habit. Stop making excuses for him, if he was such a graet person, why was he robbing a bank? The security guard did his job, AS A SECURITY OFFICER! So what if he was in the military, that just means he has served his country. If they hadn't gone in there with guns and started shooting, he wouldn't have shot back. Yeah, he was in the military, that just means he was a better shot than them.

Posted by: Marsha Location: Elkhart on Jan 20, 2008 at 09:09 PM
I've read on here that the gunman was "educated" and "made a bad decision" The fact of the matter is he was probably a child who never got taught the difference between what was right and what was wrong. Do I feel badly for his family, yes, it's hard losing anyone close to you, but in the long run whomever was resposible for this persons upbringing, is resposible for the "bad decision" he made, and responsible for his death. The security guard was doing his jobs, and in doing it, how many lives did he save? He's a hero plain and simple. He saved lives, he did his job.

Posted by: me Location: somewhere on Jan 20, 2008 at 08:41 PM
Honestly, if I were at this bank when this happened, I would've had to stand up and applaud this security officers for potecting my life as well as others. Certified or not, he DID THE RIGHT THING! Just like if one was to come into your home and point a gun at you, you have the right to point one back at them. Good job to the security officer, I hope there are more out there like him that wont be afraid to do what needs to be done. This may be a sad way to lok at this, but I see it as if the security guard wouldn't have taken him out, how many people would be dead right now? It's for the better ne less idiot we have to pay taxes for when he ended up in jail.

Posted by: Law Abiding on Jan 20, 2008 at 07:20 PM
I am not a racist, hateful, or a hypocrite. For all of you trying to justify your dead friend's actions as "a mistake", a mistake implies an UNINTENTIONAL act. His actions were both INTENTIONAL and ILLEGAL.

Posted by: concerned citizen Location: USA on Jan 20, 2008 at 07:19 PM
This is not an issue of bringing joy to people's hearts in regards to the young man's death; IT'S ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG. This kid obviously knew what he was doing was wrong. Live by the sword die by the sword. Besides, if he was so gun happy to maybe he should have join the military, instead of robbing & terrorizing innocent people. He got what he deserved, and we the people don't have to pay for the wasted court time, jail time, and all the hearings for that low life who would have thought he was innocent and needed appeal after appeal. My prayers to the security guard for a speedy mental recovery, as I am sure that it is taking it's toll. Thank you for a job that was well done, as I am sure that this is what you were trained to do, just as our police officers are!

Posted by: Seventrees helps pay my bills Location: Benton Harbor on Jan 20, 2008 at 06:37 PM
My boyfriend is an armed guard for Seventrees, and could have easily been at that bank when the robbers came. I'm glad he wasn't, but the gentleman that was there did his job, which was to protect the employees and the patrons of that bank. Those robbers fired at the guard first, they provoked him to have to fire upon them. This guard has not only served his country (Iraq), but he also has served our county by trying to protect us from those who want to harm us. Those 3 chose to use guns no one made them that is why we have to have armed guards. This situation could have been worse if the guard was not there, innocent people could have died. Thankfully no bystander was hurt. For Tom that asks about the guards training all armed guards for Seventrees go through proper handgun training, security certification, and must pass other tests every couple of months to stay armed. They cannot carry a handgun unless they receive a Concealed Weapons license from the state.

Posted by: Liz Location: The Bend on Jan 20, 2008 at 06:24 PM
Honor among thieves? I re-live being robbed at gunpoint every day. Do you think that anyone who re-lives that cares about a dead robber? Hate is such an understatement of what I feel. Posted by: chad Location: elkhart "as a white guy in elkhart i can confidently say that this black guy probably had more honor in his little pinky than every one of you hate filled hypocrites on this web site."

Posted by: Steve Location: Three Oaks Michigan on Jan 20, 2008 at 06:19 PM
do I feel bad for the slain gunman? sure, he probably grew up without a father, stable family, etc. However, that does not make him the governments responsibility. Why is it nobody has any sympathy for a meth-head when he blows himself up stealing a farmers tank of fertalizer. This country is not based on handouts and freebies. Here is where I agree with the republican mantra, lend a hand, not a handout. There are tons of programs out there to help people get to work. The "Robin Hood" approach some of you favor is outdated and ineffective, just ask the former Soviet Union. People deserve to have mansions, yachts and champagne when they earn enough monet to purchase those things. Maybe you should realize, those rich people you speak so negatively about are the ones who are employing millions of fathers, mothers, and family members. They are the ones that write the paychecks to the working class. You should never forget that fact.

Posted by: chad Location: elkhart on Jan 20, 2008 at 05:52 PM
as a white guy in elkhart i can confidently say that this black guy probably had more honor in his little pinky than every one of you hate filled hypocrites on this web site. this is why your government hates you and is giving away your country as we speak. you're just a bunch of selfish and merciless hypocrites. anybody that could say such hateful stuff about a 22 year old who made a stupid mistake deserves to lose their country. american christians have completely rejected Christ's teaching on mercy, and by doing so, they drive people away from christianity. who will God judge more harshly?

Posted by: Tom Location: sb on Jan 20, 2008 at 04:48 PM
What are the rules of engagement for this security guard?? Does he have the proper training, certifications,etc? What if another customer was armed? You then would have a shoot-out, bullets flying everywhere and innocent people killed. Some lawyer out there is drooling over this case. Armed security guards DO NOT belong in banks, there is simply way too many negative outcomes and liability issues to justify having them. These bank robbers get caught 90% of the time anyway

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 20, 2008 at 04:18 PM
He wasn't a thug...he made a bad decision...noone deserves to be killed...he was a great person and father...and don't be looking out for the family to be asking for help from terrible people like you all...they have friends and family...I can't believe you people...yes the security guard did his job but a job of a person in the army...that wasn't right now I remember why I left Indiana...because you people are horrible and you all would be mad if someone said these things about your children...I would love to see how you raise your children...

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM
the majority of people who have a tough life, don't rob banks. they don't break the law. having sympathy for a guy that walked into a bank with a gun, doesn't deserve sympathy. he made a choice to break the law. the security guard did right. sad that it ended with someone dying. but i'd rather it be the bad guy than the guard or a worker at the bank or a patron at the bank. yeah. let's see how you bleeding hearts would have felt if he (the robber) had shot the guard or someone in the bank. would you feel as much sympathy then? seriously folks: a kid who had served 22 months of a 6 year sentence went back out into society and decided to break the law again. to you bleeding hearts, it's never the individual's fault it always society's fault. you know what? i'm tired of listening to people that don't take the blame for their actions. i bet some of you would convict the security guard of manslaughter, given the chance.

Posted by: Adam Location: SB on Jan 20, 2008 at 11:52 AM
This is to scared. What an ignorant comment you make. This has nothing to do with race. Quit playing the victim. This is a tragedy for everyone involved. Everyone in the bank, the guard, and the robbers have this day seered into their memory. How dare you say this is a white vs. black issue. You sound more racist than anyone else. I bet the white people are also the reason you are not successful and have to live on assistance.

Posted by: Christina Location: elkhart on Jan 20, 2008 at 11:20 AM
I just read that this man wasn't a thug and was educated. Then tell me why he didn't work a job and he robbed banks for drug money it wasn't cause he had a sick child or was behind in house payments. Not that it would make this correct in his actions. HE made his own mind up, he's not follower he was a leader. Not saying he won't be missed but now the robberies will drop in the area. He would steal from his own family just like his brother. His family will be sad but now they won't have to worry no more about that well educated man who robbed a drug dealer at gun point with his lettermen jacket on, and served a fraction of the time.I don't have all that I want as far as material things go and I have bills but I have not choosen to take that side of life. I work and support my kids. I pay for my own schooling. Its just another THUG who would have done more harm if given that chance and he had a chance to change his life, I guess he made it. Thank God no innocent people were hurt.

Posted by: nosympathy Location: Elkhart on Jan 20, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Tsk..Tsk...Tsk Live by the sword, die by the sword...or in modern times...live like a thug..die by the slug. People are tired of going to work and coming home to find their house robbed, or getting held up, or assulted. Small wonder a concelaed weapon permit is the hot ticket in Elkhart and St. Joseph counties (IN)People are tired of taking it, as you see by the sympethatic comments...there is an old maximum "Justice delayed is justice denied" In this particular case, justice was swift and complete...

Posted by: waiting Location: elkhart on Jan 20, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Juatin in Elkhart, I am sorry to see a life gone but it was the life he picked, it was easier to take from others then it was to have a job. I feel for his parents who don't even live here. His brother is in prison and so are half of his friends and his best friends left him to die outside the hospital. I do think they robbed more then that place, maybe they the bank in elkhart two days before and maybe they did that same bank a few months ago. He got his justice, sad but true now to get the other two and well the ring leader, he'd dead now.. He's been out of jail less then two years and went back to what he did, his choice, not mine yours or the government. The victims at the bank during this will never get over this. He's a thug and so are his friends and they all need to be put in there place. Sorry this is not a white or black issue. I hope all police departments watch his funeral cause they all will be there. I know I asked my family not to go sorry but he made his choice.

Posted by: SG Location: Granger on Jan 20, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Chaz, what a great comment. "The money is insured anyways"...Who ultimately pays for that insurance Chaz. Everyone as the insurance company is not generously giving that money away. We pay for it in higher insurance rates. We pay for it with higher costs on the goods and services we purchases. You act as if that insurance money is some free money that falls out of the sky. It doesn't!!

Posted by: John on Jan 20, 2008 at 09:40 AM
DEVARENCE KIMBROUGH DOC Number 109089 First Name DEVARENCE Middle Name Last Name KIMBROUGH Suffix Date of Birth 05/00/1985 Gender Male Race Black Facility/Location Returned to court authority on release Earliest Possible Release Date * *An offender whose projected release date falls on a weekend or holiday will be released the first working day prior to the weekend or holiday. 11/16/2005 Sentence Information Date of Sentence 01/22/2004 Description ROBBERY

Posted by: Abe Location: Elkhart on Jan 20, 2008 at 09:30 AM
I believe Mr. Kimbrough went to the same school as I did and if this is the same guy that I remember he deserves to be where he is now and that is not breathing. He was nothing but a troublemaker from the wrong side of the tracks, always absent or late for class. Now if his other criminal friends want to waste their time defending him for the poor decisions he made in his short life then more power to them. I just tell myself it is only a matter of time before they end up just like him. Many of his friends are ex-cons anyway so who cares about these people? I don't and my tax dollars shouldn't support them while they are locked up

Posted by: ROBBING IS BAD Location: INDIANA on Jan 20, 2008 at 08:38 AM
1 DOWN 2 TO GO.......

Posted by: Law Abiding on Jan 20, 2008 at 07:42 AM
The security guard did not kill this thug. He and his thug friends are the ones that are responsible. He chose to break the law and his thug friends chose to delay seeking medical treatment for him. So, if apprehended, are his thug friends also going to face manslaughter charges?

Posted by: Tim Location: Wakarusa on Jan 20, 2008 at 03:26 AM
Good shot.

Posted by: sheryl Location: Wakarusa on Jan 20, 2008 at 03:22 AM
He should've stayed home listening to 50 Cents.

Posted by: Mary Location: Mishawaka on Jan 20, 2008 at 03:18 AM
I hope they get his accomplices for littering outside the hospital.

Posted by: Lorraine Location: Lakeville on Jan 20, 2008 at 03:16 AM
It is just terrible when things like this happen but one has to look at the family of this individual. My sister related a story to me where a South Bend student in her daughter's school was taken out of class for violating the dress code. Specifically turning his underwear inside-out to get an extra three weeks use out of them. It is these and other issues at the family level that prevents these thugs from even obtaining an IQ of 5. One would hope that things change but it does not look good.

Posted by: Tammy Location: Elkhart on Jan 20, 2008 at 03:09 AM
What a way to close a case. I bet he bled all over his accomplices' upholstery.

Posted by: Sammi Location: New Carlisle on Jan 20, 2008 at 03:07 AM
One would imagine that Sharpton will show up to complain.

Posted by: Timmy Location: South Bend on Jan 20, 2008 at 03:05 AM
Only a sissy would beg their accomplices to take him/her to the hospital after staging something like this. I thought there was a no-snitch policy with these thugs. Must have really been a drag when he saw all that blood seeping out of him, but he should of taken his medicine.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 19, 2008 at 11:54 PM
WOW...I am almost speechless...I have lived in Niles all of my life and work right down the road from the bank that was robbed...I felt terrible for the employees at the bank they must have been terified and my first thought after hearing about the security guard shooting one of the criminals was sadness...even though he was doing his job he must feel bad about taking a life...I also felt sad for the young man who lost his life...I do not know him but to have your life ended that way...it is sad..and to the family of the young man...mom and dad brother..sister..grandma..grandpa...I am sorry for your loss..I am sure that when he was born you never thouht that his life would end this way...this is not your fault...the young man just made a very bad choice...there is so much anger and hate in the previous comments made...I just felt that I needed to give everyone something else to think about..compassion for ALL involved.

Posted by: Jamie Location: Elkhart on Jan 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
HELLO! Is anyone really going to claim that if two robbers pointed a gun at them, they wouldn't protect themselves??? A 22yr old with a problem or not, he possessed a gun which threatened the lives of others. If your are dumb enough to pick up that gun you should already know that people don't always just lay down and take your abuse. I am sorry, were you from Iraq? I am betting that this guy is linked to several robberies in elkhart as well. Bravo to the security guard. He stopped this guy from violating other people's rights as human beings. I am sure he did not take the job with the hope of ever killing someone, he was just trying to protect unarmed people. No one said in any of the news casts who shot fist. This security guard has been through enough of an ordeal so leave him alone. He was much braver than you hidding behind an email, lets see you with a gun pointed at you and how you react?

Posted by: In God We Trust Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM
(BIBLE) Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth it's all there people are just acting it out know it's just so sad.What happen to the 10 Commandments

Posted by: Chris Location: SB on Jan 19, 2008 at 09:27 PM
There are a few very trusting souls posting here...they would rather trust the felons who rob banks with LOADED (not just for show anymore!) guns than a security guard or armed citizen. Is that trusting or naiive? You would really rather be at the total mercy of an irrational felon? Hmmm...not me.

Posted by: copper Location: niles on Jan 19, 2008 at 08:17 PM
Finally!! Maybe this is the same guy that has made several of the robberies in the south bend area. Hopefully it was so it doesn't happen to the area banks anymore. I know the 1st Source Banks have been hit lately so if this is the guy, yeah that he is GONE!!! Bye bye bank robber!

Posted by: j on Jan 19, 2008 at 08:11 PM
I agree with most on here the security gaurd is a hero in my book. it is there job to protect property and life i worked for a security company before and i know how it is. good job 7 trees to bad the other two got away. oh and one more thing to the people posting the bible crap stop this is not church!! like others on here i don't care what some old story book says or what some cult leader did 100's of years ago. If i wanted to be entertained i would go to church.

Posted by: Ericka Location: Ft. Wayne on Jan 19, 2008 at 07:33 PM
Its real messed up to me that people have gotten so cruel and are so quick to judge another human being so harshly LIFE is precious.. ALL LIFE and no one man on this earth is exempt from that. No Man!!! This man was my cousin and I loved him. Was he wrong ?" Well, of course". Would I ever do it? "I don't think so" But I also know that times are hard for everyone. And sometimes people go to extremes to obtain what we all need in order to have anything in this world.The government robs us every day and get away with it. We all complain but there isn't anything we can do about it.I wish this would have nevr happened. My cousins gone. and we can't bring him back.Its not cool that he died.It's just another example of how the the streets are engulfing our young black men and putting them in a position to make which is sometimes a hard decision for some of us. Either do right or do wrong either way all of our fates are the same .We will all one day DIE. Yup!even U!

Posted by: Justin Location: Elkhart on Jan 19, 2008 at 07:04 PM
It's sad that people must get on a comment page on a local news website in order to alleviate the guilt in their own lives. I hope you all feel so good about yourselves since you would never do anything as lowly as this "thug" did. Devarence has been in and out of jail since he was too young to know better. That pettern is a difficult thing to break on your own, I know from experience. It's sad that he had to die in circumstances like this. He will be missed by those that know what he has went through.

Posted by: Unknown Location: Indiana on Jan 19, 2008 at 05:55 PM
First of all, to everyone that is applauding the death of the robber...you should all be ashamed. You have no idea of who he really was. You all want to think of him as a THUG. Well you are wrong. He was an educated young man who made a wrong decision. There is no one out there that was any better than this man. I dare anyone of you to live one day in his or any of the other men's shoes. If you lived their life...maybe then you might have the right to judge him. But until then keep your mouth shut. He was loved by more people than you can imagine. And believe this....he will truly be missed.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 19, 2008 at 05:50 PM
Chaz in South Bend you must be on drugs or an imbecile! Let see in your world all one would need to do is walk into a bank and demand money. The teller would give them all the money they demanded and no one would be hurt. Who pays for the insurance that the bank needs to cover it's loss? This must be your answer to the delinquent mortgage problem now at hand. Anyone who could not make their mortgage payment would just walk into a bank and demand money. No one would get hurt and the banks insurance would cover the loss. Oh if you want a new Escalade just walk into the car dealer pull a gun on them and drive your new car out of the showroom. The car dealers insurance would pay for the loss and no one would ever get hurt or killed. I really hope you sober up soon.

Posted by: scared on Jan 19, 2008 at 05:44 PM
Most on here are typical white people. Seeing someone die and than say he should have killed all of them. This world is going to get even worse.

Posted by: Svengali Location: Elkhart on Jan 19, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Good...prison is too good for these types.

Posted by: Angry in Niles Location: Niles on Jan 19, 2008 at 03:49 PM
*NEWSFLASH* people!! There are a lot of people that have difficult lives, including myself and I certainly haven't resorted to robbing a bank to make things easier on myself. In fact I'm going through the often difficult process of actually continuing my education so I can maintain a positive place in society. Why should we feel bad for someone who chose to be a drain on our community when we barely even recoginize those who have been positive role models. This "kid" was a 22 year old man! He's old enough vote and drink...shouldn't he be man enough to know the difference between right and wrong?? I will even confess that I'm diagnosed Bi-Polar but you will never see my family or myself use it as an excuse to act like an idiot. Maybe he did have a troubled life, but after a certain point you have to decide when to take control of it, and robbing a bank obviously isn't a good answer. I'm a true believer in Karma...he really got what he deserved!

Posted by: Ed Location: Goshen on Jan 19, 2008 at 03:06 PM
I see a lot of people here basically saying this was caused by the economy, less jobs, or desperate circumstances. BULL; no matter how bad it gets there is still NO EXCUSE for robbery or any other crime. I am sick of all the whiners that always want to blame it on something or someone and it is never that persons fault. I too have been down to my last penny, no food, losing everything and getting help only from the Township Trustee to survive. Well guess what, I did not even think about stealing or any other criminal act because I knew it was WRONG. This was a decision I made and things got much better. This guy to made a decision to do what he did and paid the ultimate price; but again it was a DECISION HE MADE. It comes down to this; you can control your circumstances or you can let your circumstances control you.

Posted by: Lin Location: Niles on Jan 19, 2008 at 02:48 PM
Your are correct, it is awful that this poor young life was lost, and if he had served his full term from his first felony conviction he never would have been there to die. Google him on the IDOC, you will see for yourself how much he actually was giving to our society. I will be praying for the security officer. Mostly that he will not be subject to your ignorance of the situation any further. He did what he had to do to save the innocent lives that were in the bank.

Posted by: Winston Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 01:42 PM
"Word on the street is that this gentleman's baggy pants made for a poor getaway." LOL!

Posted by: Ahg Location: Ghundi on Jan 19, 2008 at 01:24 PM
The moral of the story is not to rob a bank with armed guards. Only rob banks with no guards.

Posted by: Winston Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Thugs aren't afraid to make every excuse in the book for themselves or their buddies, are they. If he's just a kid at age 22 then we're talking about someone who is developmentally delayed and ended up associating with the wrong people, and that's unfortunate. If one of my relatives went into a bank with a gun, I would understand why people were glad the security guard defended the lives of the other people in the bank. I wouldn't say, "that was my relative, therefore the guard should have let him do whatever he want" unless I was just another trashy person. Go into any low rent apartment complex. It's filled with people who think it's their world, the rest of us just live in it. They don't care about how they effect people around them. They don't care if what they do hurts other people. They're attitude is, "whatever, I do what I want". When they act like they don't understand why people are upset at them, they're just play acting. Dont' fall for it.

Posted by: Theresa Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Amazing, just amazing. One can imagine this dude crying like a baby begging to be taken to the hospital and then his family causing a disturbance in the Emergency Room area. They should catch the other one and charge him with murder. This is the way they raise their kids on the nothwest side of South Bend. Fortunately in this case there was a happy ending.

Posted by: Mary Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Watch there'll be a Tribune article where this guy's family is asking for help with funeral expenses.

Posted by: Marie Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Word on the street is that this gentleman's baggy pants made for a poor getaway.

Posted by: Jerry Location: Indiana on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:33 PM
3 would have been better than 1. But we'll settle for 1. Hope the other two are locked up intil they stop breathing.

Posted by: Chaz Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:13 PM
So Leucke is supposed to pay for cops to protect banks that are private companies? Are you prepared to pay for it? Perhaps they should also protect bars, restauarants, anywheree where there's money really. Nevermind that this guy was private security and had he not been there, the criminals likleyw ould have walked in, demanded money, gotten it and left. Nobody shot, no civilians at risk and the money is insured. Had a customer been shot, think of the headache the bank faces. It's precisely the reason that most banks don't have security guards and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the bank re-eavluates their position on having armed guards.

Posted by: mark Location: niles on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Less Jobs equals More Crime Think about that

Posted by: CS Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 10:42 AM
FYI money isn't the root of all evil, it's the love of money. To Chad, why would you think that only Christians are the ones chearing for his death? I'm a Christian and I'm praying for his family and friends, I'm sorry he made a very bad decision but we don't know his circumstances either, it's hard times out there, people get deperate. My prayers are also with the security guard, he will have to live with this also.

Posted by: LCB on Jan 19, 2008 at 09:53 AM
And that, Mayor Luecke, is how you lower the crime rate. Get a clue.

Posted by: LCB on Jan 19, 2008 at 09:52 AM
What a shame! He only took out one of them!

Posted by: Ed Location: Goshen on Jan 19, 2008 at 09:48 AM
Chad and others I'm a Christian and I beleive strongly in the action and consequence outlined in the bible. Although I don't celebrate any humans death I feel this guy did an action and got his consequence. Nough said.

Posted by: Alex Location: Granger on Jan 19, 2008 at 09:39 AM
All of the robberies we have had lately, it's about time one of them ended up differently then the robbers just getting away. I would never wish death on anyone, he was a kid making a mistake! But, something needed to be done to hopefully start letting these guys know, there can actually be consequences to robbing a bank! I work at a bank, and the last thing I would want here is a security guard with a gun! I know this gentleman had no choice but to fire back, but, had he not been there, the shots probably would have never started.

Posted by: KATE Location: elkart on Jan 19, 2008 at 09:30 AM
I am incredibly disappointed that anyone would find join in a tragic situation such as this. A life was taken, and unfortunately people are deeming it disposable. You do not know this individual, and what he has been through, and therefore have no right to judge. There is a great deal of negativity in this world already, why should any person choose to add to this through such negative-energy posts. The fact remains that a young man is dead, he is no longer suffering, but in his place are all of his loved ones. What a shame, I know what it feels like so suffer sudden loss. Imagine one of his loved ones reading this post. This young man and all of his loved ones have my greatest sympathy. One Love. All You Need Is Love (The Beatles said it best)

Posted by: Greg Location: Elkhart on Jan 19, 2008 at 08:42 AM
Beth:That security gaurd was doing his job. Maybe next time two armed men enter the bank he should be nicer about it and aim at thier big toes. My only regret is that the other suspect is still breathing.

Posted by: jr Location: niles on Jan 19, 2008 at 08:37 AM
Thankfully no customers or employees were hurt during this incident. Whether that is because of, or in spite of, the security guards actions, i don't think is known at this point. Hats off to the security guard for doing what he felt necessary in the situation. it is sad that one person turned up dead, but remember, the dead one is one of those that was threatening the lives of everyone in that bank. Once someone draws a weapon and threatens harm or death on an innocent, they have declared their intent to harm and (in my opinion) their willingness to die. My prayers are with all those in that bank during those traumatic minutes.

Posted by: Bill Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 08:30 AM
Beth, You must look at life with rose colored glasses. This thief WAS a low life thug. Think about how many people he scared or scarred emotionally when he entered other places and pointed guns at them. He was a 22 year old THUG plain and simple. I am sorry it came to the point that the guard had to do what he had to do. I am very proud of the guard not being afraid to take action and preventing others from being hurt.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 19, 2008 at 08:28 AM
Look for the two remaining criminals to come after the guard.

Posted by: roger Location: three oaks on Jan 19, 2008 at 08:09 AM
Better to rob a bank than sell drugs to kids.Fewer peoples lives are destroyed/affected.

Posted by: Lois Location: Berrien Springs on Jan 19, 2008 at 07:24 AM
I am glad the bank was kept safe, and I hope a lesson has been learned. I am also glad I was not there at the time! If I was there I would have expected the guard to shoot the bad guy before he shot me.

Posted by: Rex Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 07:01 AM
To Beth from Osceola, please don't use profanity like "heck". It makes Baby Jesus cry. I didn't say I wanted him to die, but maybe it will send a message to the other low-life thugs.

Posted by: Freddie Mercury Jr. on Jan 19, 2008 at 06:56 AM
ANOTHER THUG BITES THE DUST (sung to the tune of Queen's Another One Bites The Dust) Thug walks briskly into the bank, With the brim pulled way down low Aint no sound but the sound of his clank, Loaded gun ready to go Are you ready, are you ready for this Are you hanging on the edge of your seat Out of the doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the beat Another one bites the dust Another one bites the dust And another one gone, and another one gone Another thug bites the dust Hey, popo gonna get you too Another thug bites the dust

Posted by: Jeff Location: Cass County on Jan 19, 2008 at 06:55 AM
He was a 22 year old kid who was robbing a bank. He knew it was wrong, that's why he had a gun, and he was ready to use it! Read your bible, it say's to be careful who you call worthless, but some people are. In this case it's a no brainer. Some people are better off dead, thieves and child molesters. Thank you security guard for standing for what is right. Sleep well.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 19, 2008 at 06:48 AM
to Beth in Osceola -- first of all he wasn't shot in the head he got hit in the chest. 2nd of all what the heck does this guards duty in Iraq have to due with what happened in the bank

Posted by: Charles Location: Michigan on Jan 19, 2008 at 06:34 AM
Very interesting comments but sadly yes someone is dead. WHY he chose to do it no one forced him. I can't believe some of you are being critical of the shooting. Let me ask this question of you that feel his death was wrong. What if you husband wife, son or daughter was in the bank working or as a customer and they DIED because the poor boy that choose to shoot at the guard lived and ran away. You would be the first crying about it. Wise up people you make the road you walk down whether right or wrong but YOU are responsible for your actions. Now his family can live with his actions and the state wont have to feed or house him for years. Follow the law and live by the law and no one would ever have to die. You make your bed now you have to lay in it. No one forced you to make a wrong choice you did it on your own. Insted of chooting back he should have dropped to the ground and given up and he would be alive but then the state would have to care for him. This worked out right

Posted by: Ohhhh Yeahhh Location: Niles on Jan 19, 2008 at 04:25 AM
Beth, What planet are you from???

Posted by: beth Location: osceola on Jan 19, 2008 at 01:14 AM
You guys are sick...actually wishing death on someone...I don't think it says in the bible it's okay to wish death on someone. He wasn't a low life thug, he was a 22 year old kid who messed up, he didn't kill anyone. That security guard should have NEVER aimed for his head...The heck to him. Go back to iraq.

Posted by: In God We Trust Location: South Bend on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:44 AM
This is so scary

Posted by: Don on Jan 19, 2008 at 12:11 AM
I don't have any sympathy for the victom that got popped and died! They chose their destiny on that day,as the cocky thugs say "live by the gun die by the gun" He should have been out filling out applications instead of holding up a bank. Security did there job and took this low life out!

Posted by: Me Location: Indiana on Jan 18, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Buh-Bye bad guy!!! Great job security guard!

Posted by: AL Location: SB on Jan 18, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Fair warning to the South Bend bank robbers. DO NOT come to Michigan to hold up banks. Holding up a bank in Michigan can be bad for your health.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 18, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Wow!!! You people have lost your minds!!! Yes, the man made a very bad decision, but he was a person!!! Shame on everyone who is glad that this man died!!!! You did not know him or his plight in life!!! I just hope he asked the Lord for forgiveness before he died!!! That's what matters here!!! The course of eternity NOT the root of all Evil (MONEY)!!!!!

Posted by: Rex Location: South Bend on Jan 18, 2008 at 11:30 PM
I 100% support the security guard who wasted the bank robber.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Jan 18, 2008 at 11:14 PM
All I can say is Good Job! I am so glad the thug lost this challenge. Good job to the security guard who is more than a guard, he is a serviceman I believe this is a great example of what training our military get.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: south bend** on Jan 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM
go figure...i mean wow another shooting! the ones that love to live off the government and never work. dang. wow if they would have actually been at a JOB they would not have to rob; therefore; no one would be dead right now. Remember: CRIME DOESN'T PAY ONLY A JOB CAN!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Niles on Jan 18, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Shame on all of you for your awful comments. Do you really think the security guard wanted to kill that person. Maybe instead of applauding a death we should focus on why this person was robbing the bank in the first place.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 18, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Obviously I fully support the security guard and anything he had to do to keep everyone safe, my prayers are with him, but my prayers are also with the family of the man who has died and the two remaining suspects that they will realize there wrong and turn themselves in. It's a shame when anyone dies, thankfully no one innocent got hurt.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 18, 2008 at 10:26 PM
THANK GOD! Thats just one less problem we society has to pay for. Now if we can just get rid of all the illegals (if this was not one) we all will be better off.

Posted by: ag Location: mishawaka on Jan 18, 2008 at 10:03 PM
great job! seven trees for putting a dent in someones plan to make a quick buck and threaten the lives of innocent people!

Posted by: victor Location: Mishawaka on Jan 18, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Give the Seven Trees guard a raise and a promotion.Job well done.

Posted by: Tôm Location: South Bend on Jan 18, 2008 at 09:25 PM
I can't believe the coward wanted help after all that.

Posted by: Tony Location: South Ben on Jan 18, 2008 at 09:01 PM
Amen Anonymous... We just saved a bunch of tax money. Thanks to the guard

Posted by: chad Location: elkhart on Jan 18, 2008 at 08:14 PM
i suspect that you folks celebrating this guys death are all christians. there's nothing more sickening to me then to read somebody call a fellow human beings death awesome, and at the same time be to cowardly to print your name. what these guys did in robbing a bank was definitely idiotic, and the security guard had no choice but to shoot it out with them, but to celebrate the guys death is pathetic. it makes me wonder who the real scum is.

Posted by: Chaz Location: South Bend on Jan 18, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Glad it turned out OK but if I had been in that bank I'd prefer the security guard wasn't there.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 18, 2008 at 07:17 PM
It's ALWAYS about tax money isn't it?! I hate reading all those kinds of comments. Anyways, that's the bank I go to and I had to go there today... Now I'll have to wait until Monday haha. But really it's too bad two of them get away... good luck everyone who is hunting them down. Hopefully they find him soon!! [This is the second time that bank's been hit in the past few months]

Posted by: mj Location: sb on Jan 18, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Good Job, yes. But no security guard or law enforcement officer actually wants to kill anybody. My thoughts go out to the security Guard involved. It will be difficult dealing with this. But know you had no choice.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 18, 2008 at 06:40 PM
Good this is awsome drive home a point rob a bank you could end up dead just think of the tax money we just saved we dont have to feed him or gaurd him in prison better dead than me paying for his crime by letting him spend life in jail WAY TO GO Seven Trees Security! The gaurd that shot this low life was fresh back from iraq what a welcome home from the thugs ! thank you soldier and gaurd !

Posted by: dave Location: northern IN on Jan 18, 2008 at 06:23 PM
call me cold, call me hard, but thats one down, 2 more to go,

Posted by: Anonymous Location: TCU on Jan 18, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Security guard did a great job, Thanks You!! Hope we get the other 2 people and to bad the other one died ha ha.

Posted by: Oh Yeahh Location: Niles on Jan 18, 2008 at 05:49 PM
Good job to the Security Officer, I bet the low life thug scums will think twice before robbing this bank!

Posted by: LovinSecurity on Jan 18, 2008 at 05:37 PM
GOOD JOB SEVENTREES SECURITY FOR MAKING OUR COUNTY SAFER! MABEY THESE BAD PEOPLE WILL THINK TWICE BEFORE THE DO SOMETHING THAT WILL GET THEM KILLED!I BELIVE ALL BANKS SHOULD HAVE FULL TIME ARMED SECURITY.

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