Roseland conflict heads to Grand Jury

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Posted: 4:30 PM Oct 3, 2007
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Roseland Conflict Heads to Grand Jury

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The St. Joseph Prosecutor’s Office will present evidence to a Grand Jury regarding all parties involved in the physical incident from the Roseland council meeting on September 14, 2007.

Do you think the police went too far with their use of force in David Snyder's arrest?

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The incident in question was the altercation between David Snyder and Marshal Jack Tiller.

The Grand Jury will convene on December 17th and evidence will be presented starting the next day.

WNDU has been informed that a subpoena will be issued for the footage aired on NewsCenter16 and WNDU.com. The video, which is linked above, shows the events that unfolded the night of the 14th.

David Snyder issued a press release yesterday asking for some type of legal action from the office. The release is available and can be seen by clicking on the "Snyder requests action" link.

David Snyder told NewsCenter16 that he is happy the prosecutor is making positive steps forward in this case. Indiana law prohibits the Prosecutor from making further comment about the investigations being presented to the Grand Jury.

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Posted by: ozzy Location: Texas on Sep 7, 2008 at 08:45 PM
Its sad to see such bickering. I feel sorry for the officer who lost his control. He was entrusted with the peoples saftey and welfare. The fact that he can be plainly see in he video assaulting its citizens is sad. If you dont like or agree with the politics of someone dont take sides especially if you are an officer of the court, or in law enforcement. You have to be impartial. I did not see anything like that. As far as the person stating Mr. Snyder did something inappropriate to incite the attack, shame on you for lieing.

Posted by: Graham J Location: Ames, Iowa on Jan 21, 2008 at 05:13 PM
I think the question that needs to be asked, is whether or not Snyder should have been asked to leave the meeting in the first place. Under city law, there is certain criteria that needs to be followed before police officers should have to escort anyone out. Obviously, the fundamental problem with a city council, is the council itself. Ridiculous small town beauroucrats who are abusing the little bit of power they have. I do hope Snyder wins in court though, Tiller's actions were ridiculous, classic case of police brutality. As for the rest of the people in that town, the woman who encouraged Tiller's actions, you should be ashamed of yourself for being such a mornon. And to the guy that posted: "Join one of the armed forces. Get a rifle. Go to Iraq and kill insurgents. Maybe THEN you would be doing something USEFUL in this world" Is your name Jack Tiller???

Posted by: Doug Location: Oklahoma on Nov 22, 2007 at 08:53 AM
It is easy to see the wrong doing of the officer in the video. But, if you listen you can tell there are some real losers there watching it happen. Saying things like "wow, you really tripped and fell", etc. What a lovely community.

Posted by: I want to be Anonymous too Location: Canada on Oct 19, 2007 at 03:57 PM
These comments are the funniest thing I have read in years. This shows "Roselands" true colours. I feel sorry for the real hard working sane people of this town. Its like watching kids fight about a ball or something. Your a jerk no your a jerk. How about spending this time finger pointing, YOU MAKE SOMETHING BETTER OF YOUR TOWN. You just look like a bunch of trailer park hillbillies. Oh wait that would mean getting off the couch. You don't think the rest of us don't see this for what it is? They are no doubt trying to proctect the guy in the police costume. Defer for 3 months, why can't you deal with it now?? Because everyone is watching. You don't even have the courage to say who you are? What are you affraid of? Oh yeah Tiller might come and beat you up and say you tripped. Grow up Roseland, your suppose to be adults. You all fail to see what this is about and want to discredit Snyder for what he had to go through at the hands of Tiller. Snyder will now own Roseland thanks to you.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 14, 2007 at 10:53 AM
This is factual information on Roseland Indiana with council majority Ted Penn and Charlie Shields this was taken on February 22, 2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVGqaYH9w0

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Roseland on Oct 13, 2007 at 12:36 PM
David Snyder was born in Roseland, his father was born in Roseland and his grandfather was also on the Roseland Town Council. A few bad eggs which you see on the video have used the media with lies and half truths to distort what has been happening in Roseland for years. "Hate the Snyders" is what they have been pushing, and sadly people were willing to buy it. Now, the brutality of this video is undeniable. The world sees who is in the wrong and who are the nasty people and the liars. Take stock Granger, this could happen in your town. It could happen in any town. If there is a small group of felons and hate preachers/ugly mob, it can and will happen ANYWHERE to ANYBODY. David Snyder was attacked by Jack Tiller while lawfully doing Roseland town business. If you think this is OK, then you are part of the problem in America today. This ugly mob is trying to bully those who will stand up to them. Do you support this? If yes, turn in your American flag, you don't deserve it.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 8, 2007 at 06:32 PM
Dorothy, stop it will yah? We've been around too long to hear this garbage.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 7, 2007 at 09:26 PM
The PENN'S not only spread lies, they spread HATRED. They have done nothing this year except stir up controversy and place the blame elsewhere... They are so busy trying to keep the HATE going that they have done NOTHING FOR THE TOWN! PENN'S WIFE goes around telling people what they CAN AND CANNOT DO ON THEIR PROPERTY and TED PENN goes around SIGNING PERMITS AGAINST TOWN CODE AND LINING HIS POCKET. THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ROSELAND ARE SCARED OF THEM AND THE REDNECKS OF THIS AREA ARE THEIR FOLLOWERS. I second this and have personally watched it happen, more to the point is watching Penn add a patio, replace a garage door and other projects without a permit. Penn is so two faced he can see everything - just watch his accounts of all the fights.

Posted by: Sticks and Stones on Oct 7, 2007 at 12:04 AM
"Posted by: maria Location: roseland I am constantly amused by the morons that think that david snyders lack of payment for child support has anything to do with the fact that a big fat bully put a uniform on and masqueraded as a cop to beat him up!!!" Now, Now Dorothy calling other people names and making accusations....After all you masquerade around all the time implying that you were once a cop...Not true! You never attended any police academy either.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 5, 2007 at 09:58 PM
(Yaaaaaawwwnnnnnn...) sniff, sniff.......hey, did something important happen and I missed it? Oh, Roseland and Smyder again. Forget it, I'm going back to sleep.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 5, 2007 at 09:51 PM
Gee there Patrick from "Iowa". You sure do know a lot about Roseland and the area...ESPECIALLY about the Roseland police and their enforcement of speeding. I personally suspect you ARE from this area and ARE just trying to "keep the pot boiling". I hate to see Roseland being annexed but I do agree with you on one point - all the negative publicity doesn't do any good for anyone living there. To me it's like one big soap opera.

Posted by: Patrick J. Devolder Location: Shenandoah, IA on Oct 5, 2007 at 11:27 AM
Roseland should be part of South Bend. All this negative publicity hurts the area. What is the Garnd Jury going to investigate? Can they investigate non-payment of child support? How about buying real estate, in your wife's name, and you are responsible for issuing permits?(conflict of interest).How about enforcing laws on parts of Roseland that are grandfathered into earlier laws. How about this for a solution. Disband the police force, have South Bend annex the area, and end this farce. I live in Shenandoah, IA, and have to hear about this. And one final note to all:Clay township is north of Roseland, and not part of Roseland! The King and Queen of the village of Roseland do not run Clay township. If they left, it would be a happy day for all, and with the keystone cops of Roseland gone, no more speeding tickets for going 32 in a 30 zone. Good Riddance to all of them.

Posted by: Paul Location: Granger on Oct 5, 2007 at 09:50 AM
David should be collecting Child Support himself, because he is a Child...Loose him!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 5, 2007 at 09:45 AM
People are also forgetting that Gridley was refusing to do her job. She never at any meetings, nor was she available to get those permits for people needing them. To say that "Penn was lining his pockets" by issuing bogus permits has to be a total blatant lie. If someone isn't there to help the people of Roseland (as they are paid to do) WHY on God's green Earth would you keep them??? This whole mess needs to fall off the face of the Earth. It makes me TIRED of all the bickering and backbiting. I wished everyone one of you that post these nasty comments would turn your bitterness and hatred towards terrorists. Join one of the armed forces. Get a rifle. Go to Iraq and kill insurgents. Maybe THEN you would be doing something USEFUL in this world...and maybe then, you would be HAPPY AGAIN. This is one SICK WORLD - GOD HELP US!

Posted by: Lynn Location: South Bend on Oct 5, 2007 at 08:44 AM
I love how Snyder signed his letter "The Honorable David R. Snyder". Guess someone forgot to tell him that there is nothing honorable about him.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Roseland on Oct 5, 2007 at 08:10 AM
It is a sad day for our town, our county and our state to have people like "Jim, South Bend" and "Tired, tooclose" make public comments like these. That people think that this type of attack on people who want to make their comments is ok, make us understand how sick people like Tiller get away with their actions even a little while. The sick, sick, sick people that stood around and did not help David Snyder, like the ones posting here are watching way too much TV and do not understand the golden rule, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Reality check folks.

Posted by: Patrick Cottrell Location: Newport, RI on Oct 5, 2007 at 03:59 AM
Any citizen who finds ways to justify or defend the unprovoked brutal assault by the police officer on Mr. Snyder needs mental health treatment.

Posted by: Patrick Cottrell Location: Newport, Rhode Island on Oct 5, 2007 at 03:52 AM
The WNDU cameraman who recorded this atrocious incident of police brutality deserves a Pulitzer prize. The cameraman had to follow the action and shoot his video eventhough certain meeting attendees, including Marshal Tiller's daughter, were attempting to block his view. Exceptional work Mr. Cameraman.

Posted by: Not a Snyder Fan Location: Warsaw on Oct 4, 2007 at 11:17 PM
If David Snyder would keep his big mouth shut, none of us would be typing in this blog. He and his wife are giant losers who need to get real jobs and out of the so called Roseland government. They don't have a clue. I'm so sick of hearing about these patheic losers... Snyder's are a waste of our time and money. He just wants an excuse to sue someone. He provoked the officer and I can't imagine anyone would want to listen to his rediculous comments. DT in SB, you are right on!!

Posted by: MD Location: South Bend on Oct 4, 2007 at 10:59 PM
Snyders, seriously, leave the state of Indiana! And please go further then Michigan, they certainly do not want your drama either!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Michigan on Oct 4, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Well just as I expected Dorothy and/or David, you DON"T have the guts to respond to my direct question. Must be because you know that you are in the wrong......

Posted by: Why should I give my name Location: Not saying in fear for my life on Oct 4, 2007 at 08:10 PM
Haha. I think it is funny that you all let your personal opinions get in the way of justice. What if this was you? Being a dead beat dad I am sure he is. But he will be able to afford his payments with the money he gets from your taxes when he sues and wins. He is no hero by any means. If the officer did nothing no one would care and the town might've been able to save itself. Insulting people for their spelling show how childish this town really is. Grow up people. Can't you see this officer is guilty. If what "tired" says is true then nothing should happen since abusing people in your town is not seen as illegal. Why does it change when you are talking about someone you don't like. I will never visit your losy state. What goes around comes around and you don't like what is comming around do you? You don't care that the actions of this officer is going to put YOUR money into this dead beat dads pocket.

Posted by: Trish Location: SB on Oct 4, 2007 at 08:02 PM
Hey John in Hamlet, isn't your town being investigated by the Feds right now? Better clean your own porch before trying to clean for Roseland! Being a law enforcement officer for 17 years should have given you sense enough to know that there are two sides to the story and the media only shows what they want you to see. They keep this going on and on.......it's so old already.

Posted by: PLEASE !!! Location: S BEND on Oct 4, 2007 at 07:57 PM
MR. DVORAK SHOULD NOTIFY THE BMV ABOUT D. SNYDER BEING BEHIND IN CHILD SUPPORT BY $90,000.00 BEING BEHIND BY $2000.00 MEANS HE SHOULD LOSE HIS DRIVERS LICENSE, PERT THE BMV MANUEL. BE FAIR!!!!!

Posted by: Jim Location: South Bend on Oct 4, 2007 at 06:38 PM
Mike, (Dirt bag lover): First, learn to spell. Second, get a little common sense. The cop did nothing wrong. Snyder (the Dirt Bag, your hero) instigated the whole affair. Keep your comments in Elkhart with your illegal aliens. We'll deal with Snyder. Common police procedure.

Posted by: tired Location: tooclose on Oct 4, 2007 at 06:18 PM
Maria, How many times did Divorak not act on you and Davids abusive actions on Roselands citizens? Dont be stupid and say What Actions. I watched you and David throw a hadicapped boy in a wheelchair out of a meeting for asking a question. I watched as you had an eighty year old man handcuffed, bloodied and slammed into a door for saying nothing. He had to be taken away in an ambulance. All was on the news but who cared. Now its your turn,Divorak was good enough for you then! So as the saying goes What comes around goes around.

Posted by: Jill Location: Mishawaka on Oct 4, 2007 at 04:55 PM
Yep obviously David and Dorothy Snyder have nothing but time on their hands to continue to post all of their anonyomous comments. Stop giving these idiots press-time that's what they want. Stop referring to the "reflection in the glass" the media caught what 2 seconds of what really happened, it makes me even more mad about the "bloodied", etc. They put such a twist on everything. There was no blood on David Snyder in that video.

Posted by: maria Location: roseland on Oct 4, 2007 at 03:38 PM
I am constantly amused by the morons that think that david snyders lack of payment for child support has anything to do with the fact that a big fat bully put a uniform on and masqueraded as a cop to beat him up!!! Dvorak obviously hasnt got the guts to do anything about this bully so shame on him. People for years from now will associate this behavior with all decent police officers because of dvorak. double shame on him. Yes the town of Roseland has received bad publicity because of all of this but it doesnt make all of us bad. I hope this never happens to other towns of this size because it would be hard for some of you name callers to have to eat your words. When the snyders are gone then the Penn regime will take over and as we all know the man cant lie in bed straight so my fear for this lovely town grows to larger proportions. at least the snyders did things toward helping this town and NO i am not a snyder supporter i just love the town i live in.

Posted by: Tired Location: toclose on Oct 4, 2007 at 03:24 PM
Oh my God!!! How many times are the SNYDERS going to post here under the alias of so many people?? Its so obvious! But I guess trickery nothing new to them..

Posted by: Very Angry Location: Granger on Oct 4, 2007 at 01:03 PM
Evidently WNDU is the only one taking this seriously. WSBT has a bogus poll going about a Grand Jury. The Grand Jury ploy is simply a way for Dvorak to drag this out until hopefully everyone forgets about it while leaving Tiller to run free. Tiller should be in jail pending a REAL investigation. Dvorak, you are obviously playing more silly games in your Quest to squash Snyder. You are showing your true colors and unfortunately your actions, or lack of, are no surprise to anyone.You are doing exactly what is expected of you. Nothing. Time for the State of Indiana to step in before this corruption and collusion goes any further. You really should be ashamed of what you are doing to the office that you hold. History has a long memory. There are enough of us around the globe who will keep an eye on this for as long as it takes. It sickens me to see this type of behaviour and I feel very sorry for the good people in Roseland who must be at wits end with this. Step up to the plate Dvorak.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: South Bend on Oct 4, 2007 at 12:49 PM
These people need to get a life. I'm so tired of hearing about Roseland. It is nothing but a CIRCUS!

Posted by: Matt Location: New_Hampshire on Oct 4, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Seeing this drama unfold for the past 2 weeks, I have done a little bit of research. It seems that people of Roseland have elected a bunch of incompetant dysfunctional people to lead the town, when all they do is live off drama and are law breakers themselves (much like our own national politicians.) You have Snyder smiling after he was brutalized by the cop living it up, as well as the rest of the town council trying to live this up as well. Have people of Roseland done anything? Have they repeatedly tried to contact the governor or their own state reps to intervene?

Posted by: Michiana Location: Michiana on Oct 4, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Yes I think the Police went a bit far but how can you know what that WEASEL David Snyder would try? He gets what he deserves he's always stirring up trouble and these dedicated officers are only getting paid $6.00 an hr and they have to defend people like the Snyders!! I don't blame them a bit I sure the whole Town is fed up with the situation I know I tired of seeing it in the paper everyday!!. I wish the Snyders would move out of the area they are getting boring they are like the Cartoon characters Boris and Natasha!! Bye Snyders

Posted by: Want My Town Back Location: Roseland on Oct 4, 2007 at 11:43 AM
The PENN'S not only spread lies, they spread HATRED. They have done nothing this year except stir up controversy and place the blame elsewhere... They are so busy trying to keep the HATE going that they have done NOTHING FOR THE TOWN! PENN'S WIFE goes around telling people what they CAN AND CANNOT DO ON THEIR PROPERTY and TED PENN goes around SIGNING PERMITS AGAINST TOWN CODE AND LINING HIS POCKET. THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ROSELAND ARE SCARED OF THEM AND THE REDNECKS OF THIS AREA ARE THEIR FOLLOWERS.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 4, 2007 at 11:09 AM
Sam, Roseland - oh, your talking about the earlier lies (also called allegations) that Teddy Penn told about David Snyder in January of this year. It will be clear very soon who all the liars are, and even without a video tape, again the Penn/ Tiller / mob. Anybody that supports that group deserves the financial mess that they created this year, and they have spent next years money too. At least the Snyders worked for the good of Roseland, not just lining their pockets like Penn's mob.

Posted by: deann Location: mishawaka on Oct 4, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Jim from Elkhart, I disagree. Let Snyder receive monetary compensation. Then take it away from him to pay his child support. Maybe Snyder will quit suing people/Roseland if he knows it will go to his children. Sad for his children but he should be made to pay honestly.

Posted by: not you Location: not there on Oct 4, 2007 at 10:54 AM
If this whole saga wasn't so pathetic it would almost be funny....it's really like a bad soap opera.

Posted by: Joe Barr Location: Dowagiac on Oct 4, 2007 at 10:27 AM
Looks like to me that most of the problems in Roseland go back to all the problems that the Snyder's caused in the first place. And how can a man hold a public office and keep causing so much trouble with everyone when he is breaking the law himself.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 4, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Gee, can't we all just learn to play nice and get along?? This whole forum is getting to be tiring. Its all one side or the other. I personally think nothing will come of it. There are only two people that actually knows what happened in that hallway. Each have their own side to it. NOTHING IS CLEAR on that tape from WNDU. Its just a reflection in a glass. Lets see what happens to Snyder today in court. He is supposed to appear for attack on Penn way back months ago. Tiller and Snyder could end up being cellmates!!

Posted by: jojo on Oct 4, 2007 at 10:03 AM
typical, nerd becomes cop, now nerd thinks he can do anything he wants by using law to get revenge on bullies.

Posted by: R.D. Location: SBN,IN on Oct 4, 2007 at 09:50 AM
In regards to the Roseland conflict that police officer should be jailed for criminal assault and battery, and any other applicable charges. This County surely doesn't need a individual of that caliber as a police offiicer, in any community. The prosecutors office should prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. A grand jury is a sham approach--politics 101. Any buddy can watch the news video of the incident and clearly see that Snyder was victimized. Dvorak needs to do his job.

Posted by: Snyder fan Location: warsaw on Oct 4, 2007 at 09:39 AM
I just wish I would hit the lottery,, I would back David Snyder 100%. I can't believe the way you (humans?) treat you fellow man? I dont even know him and his wife but I think most post here are uncalled for, you dont act like children,, you act like a bunch of idiots, how would you like to be treated like that,or have your family treated like that,no wonder alot of younger people act the way they do, monkey see, monkey do!!

Posted by: Tracy Location: Granger on Oct 4, 2007 at 09:27 AM
From the video, it appeared that David turned around to say something to the police officer who in turn started shoving him down the hallway. I think the cop was just looking for an opportunity to beat the crap out of David. I feel sorry for the citizens of Roseland having to live with all the ridiculous publicity they receive. I'm sure most of the citizens are great people; it's too bad that the people in Roseland's town council act the way they do.

Posted by: john Location: hamlet ind on Oct 4, 2007 at 09:11 AM
the Roseland incident arresting David Snyder.i;ve worked in the law enforcement field for 17 yrs.that incident really made me mad.the officer went way over board.once you have your suspect on the ground.there is no reason to continue hitting him.he was on his stomach he could;t of hurt anyone else in that position.that;s why people hate cops because of cops like that young town marshall.just totally uncalled for.he should be fired for his actions.he forgot he;s to serve and protect not arrest and abuse.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 4, 2007 at 09:04 AM
I can not figure out why everyone is writing about David's child support on here. That is not the problem with this particular incident, it has nothing to do with why he is in the "spotlight" again. The problem is, he was wrongfully assaulted by a police officer. Whether he is a dead beat dad, or a poor politician he did not deserve the treatment he received, there is nothing in the footage that would indicate that he resisted a lawful arrest. Tiller used excessive force and like it or not, David may very well end up cathing up on his child support from what he will get from Roseland and or Tiller on a civil level.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 4, 2007 at 08:53 AM
I HOPE TILLER GETS WHAT HE DESERVES

Posted by: Mike Location: Elkhart on Oct 4, 2007 at 08:35 AM
Jim from South Bend is a perfect example of what I am talking about. He approves of what happened because it was David Snyder. Comments like "PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT DIRT BAG" He had a tripod he could of used a weapon. Well genius, he did not try to use it. Are you supossed to get your butt kicked for what you could have done but didn't? His child support has nothing to do with getting thrown out of a meeting then getting beaten while he is trying to leave. People who think like you are the reason we are living in a police state. When the same thing happens to you be sure to leave your comments on how you deserved to be assaulted.

Posted by: Jim Location: Elkhart on Oct 4, 2007 at 08:29 AM
He’s a deadbeat dad, plain and simple and that’s pitiful! There’s no excuse for that. Obviously Tiller’s job will be yanked, but by all means DO NOT GRANT SNYDER ANY MONETARY COMPENSATION from this situation. Let the bum get a job for a change. Hey David, practice this phrase a few times, “Want fries with that?”!

Posted by: James Location: In Edwardsburg on Oct 4, 2007 at 08:15 AM
Gee Tony of Edwardsburg, don't you realize you are only TWO SNYDERS SHORT of being a hick-town yourself? Things that are happening to Roseland could happen to ANY TOWN. Lighten up on the folks in Roseland. They are good people too - They have a few "morons" that are making them look bad is all. Our town could be next.

Posted by: JB Location: thetown on Oct 4, 2007 at 08:14 AM
I have been a roselander for many years and its been a great place to live UNTIL Dave and Dorothy Snyder came into the picture. They have sold us out and ran us into bankrupt. Much like there own lives. Thanks to them we have no matainence or leaf pick up anymore.(Remember that this fall people). Snyders always have someone to blame for there screw ups and the like. Just listen real good when they speak, they take no responsiblity for anythink(just like his children). Was Tiller right? Dont Know dont care. Justice comes in many ways and I feel Dave was let off to easy.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 4, 2007 at 07:40 AM
Hey Gellar of Elkhart. You need some spelling lessons there son. Might want to try perusing the lexicon a bit more before responding on here. It make you look a tad bit FOOLISH when you can't spell correctly. Roseland isn't the problem - its the people that are trying to destroy it. If this whole mess was to ever calm down, Roseland would be able to continue on AND THEN be able to move forward once again. I can't see much good happening there until someone or something BIG happens first. Either the town is going to go bankrupt, OR the Snyders will own it. Of course, they WILL change the name to "Snyderville" once again. Its going to be a really long, long winter here.

Posted by: DT Location: SB on Oct 4, 2007 at 07:16 AM
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE WHO IS GUILTY OF A CRIME CAN SIT IN PUBLIC OFFICE NOT PAYING CHILD SUPPORT IS A CRIME THEREFORE DAVID SHOULD OF BEEN REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY THE COURT SO I THINK THAT THERE IS A JUDGE/LAW TO BLAME FOR THE RESON HE IS STILL IN OFFICE (HE'S A DEAD BEAT DAD)OF A SPECIAL NEEDS CHILD AND AS FAR AS THE ISSUE AT HAND WITH JACK TILLER WHO CARES BOTH MEN MAY HAVE BEEN RIGHT OR WRONG BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT INDIANA LAW SHOULD HAVE REMOVED HIM FROM OFFICE WHEN HE COMMITED THE(DEAD BEAT DAD LAW) LET'S LOOK AT THIS WHOLE THING FROM A DIFFRENT ANGLE IF IT WAS YOUR CHILD NOT GETTING THERE SUPPORT CHECK SO HE COULD LIVE BETTER YOU WOULD BE P O'D AS WELL NOT TO MENTION THAT HIS CHILD IS A SPECIAL NEEDS CHILD HE SHOULD BE AT LEAST NEAR THIS CHILD WHO WILL ALWAYS NEED SUPPORT BECAUSE OF NO FAULT OF THE CHILD I AM A PARENT AND I COULDN'T EVEN THIK ABOUT NOT SUPPORTING MY CHILD LET ALONE MOVEING THIS FAR AWAY WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME DAVID SAW HIS CHILD?

Posted by: Dee Location: South Bend on Oct 4, 2007 at 07:11 AM
It is so riduiculous how David Snyder and his antics are continually in the spotlight. The whole issue with Roseland is so out of hand. The city needs to make Roseland a part of South Bend and end this farce immediately. David Snyder is so crooked that what happens to him needs to happen. I believe he needs to stay in jail for a significant amount of time because it is obvious that he is financially capable of paying his child support because he does (in great amounts) everytime he is arrested. The average Joe with no money would be sentenced to time in jail until it is all paid off and caught up. The cops did what was necessary.

Posted by: Tim Location: Indiana on Oct 4, 2007 at 06:07 AM
It is pretty bad when the people who are supposed to protect and serve can assault a citizen like a common thug and faces no reprecussions what's our country coming to when some one gets away with assault just because he's an officer of the law.

Posted by: David Location: Indy on Oct 4, 2007 at 06:06 AM
As a police officer and a human being I am not a fan of Mr. or Mrs. Snyder. I can also tell you that after watching the video of the officer arresting David Snyder it is obvious that he used excessive force. I realize that 1. David Snyder is a deadbeat dad. 2. Not many people like him in Roseland. But, that DOES NOT mean that a man who has sworn to uphold the Law has the right to batter a subject who has not resisted. Force Continuum allows an officer to go one level higher than a subject when performing an arrest, but I saw nothing in this video that showed anyone resisting. Resisting an officer is not acting like a child and calling an officer a "name" like "Bully." NOTHING in the video shows Mr. Snyder resisting. The officer is wrong in this case. He should have "kept his cool" (we all remember our verbal Judo training) and walked behind Mr. Snyder and out the door.

Posted by: Doug Location: Goshen on Oct 4, 2007 at 05:55 AM
Why don't we just eliminate the town of Roseland altogether, as it is nothing but a complete joke. How much of MY tax money paid in Indiana State Taxes has been used for the farce that is "Roseland", between this lawsuit, that lawsuit, and so on. Yes, Snyder is a slithering snake, but the cop was wrong. Dvorak went to the GJ because if they decide to hand down an indictment, it allows Dvorak to pass the buck "Hey, I didnt indict the cop my cop buddies, the Grand Jury did - it wasnt me."

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 4, 2007 at 02:06 AM
Most Police officers get paid, and receive more than $6.00 and hour! So lay off the cop HE WAS JUST DOING HIS JOB! Unlike others!

Posted by: R.K.K. Location: South Bend on Oct 4, 2007 at 12:24 AM
As I have view the tape there seems to be excessive force from the policeman. But of course there are two sides to all stories. Due to the fact that this is exactly what the Snyders want "More Media Coverage!" Someone with Authority needs to do something to stop the Madness. Where is Notre Dame in all of this? They need to come in and take over!They are redoing the Edison-Eddy area, Why not Roseland? Why isn't he working at Pizza King or Bob Evan's to pay his child support? What are his kids thinking of all of this? Is anyone considering what this is doing to his children? The Snyders are going to sue Roseland until they get what they want. Snyderville. It's a trap and everyone is falling into it. Stop the madness before it is to late!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: elkhart on Oct 4, 2007 at 12:06 AM
to me david was smiling most of the time. Tiller was hitting him in the shoulder if you would play the tape slow. you could see that david must have turned toward tiller or how else would Tiller's glasses got broke i heard David and Dorthy own 2 houses here in elkhart why not sell em and give his ex the money snider needs to stay out of the media he is thriving on it, grow up snyder and face reality and own up to your #1 responsiabilty(your kids)why should your kids suffer because your selfish and want to drive nice cars and have other nice things they deserve it too.

Posted by: Jim Location: South Bend on Oct 3, 2007 at 11:18 PM
Get off the cops back!The supposed reflections don.t show everything that went on in that hallway. ANY cop will keep hitting a suspect that refuses to put his hands out like DAVID was told to do. You also forget that David had a tripod that could be used as a weapon at the time he was refusing to obey the commands of the officer. David brought this whole thing down on himself and is the biggest fool that has ever walked the face of the earth. PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT YOU DIRT BAG and while you're at it where did all the money go that Roseland had when you were in office with your gang?

Posted by: tony Location: edwardsburg on Oct 3, 2007 at 10:25 PM
Personally, from the raw footage, everyone in that town council meeting comes off like a bunch of hillrats. The most controversial council in the whole state of Indiana and they can't even keep the town afloat. What an embarrassment, the whole lot of them.

Posted by: Mike Location: Elkhart on Oct 3, 2007 at 10:25 PM
This is to all the idiots on here who think what happened is ok because it was David Snyder. You are missing the point. The point is, a man was assaulted by a police officer. This has become a common occurence in this country. The judges allow it to happen. If the people(that would be us)don't speak up and put a stop to the actions of the police it will continue. Some of you have the attitude, oh well it was only David Snyder. What if it had been you or your wife or son? I would bet if it had been your wife or husband your thought process would be completely different. Someday it WILL be you if we don't put a stop to it now.

Posted by: SB guy Location: SB on Oct 3, 2007 at 09:47 PM
Tiller clearly committed a crime by using excessive force. As Prosecutor, Dvorak could have charged the crime himself, because he has that authority to do so. He doesn't have the nuts to do it, though, because he knows he would lose the support of law enforcement. Without law enforcement's support, Dvorak cannot get re-elected. Then what would he do? He's not likely to get a job in the private sector, where ability counts. If he's not re-elected, then there would only be two Dvoraks on the public dole, his wife and his son. What would the Dvorak family do?

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Michigan on Oct 3, 2007 at 09:42 PM
Hey Dorothy and/or David...You posted on here before will you respond directly to a direct question? How can you justify owning expensive vehicles, owning multiple homes and not liquidating those assets to support David's children and not getting any job that you can to pay the support as ordered? If you have the moxy to respond please do so here.

Posted by: Gellar Location: Elkhart on Oct 3, 2007 at 09:07 PM
The Cop was on a power trip and felt he needed his 15 seconds of fame on the news. The media (no offense) should not even pay attention to that trash and discrace of northern indiana. What a discrase to the Notre Dame area. when people get off the toll road for games that have to look at the dirty unkept hillbilly area and its discusting. roseland should be no more@!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lori Location: Elkhart on Oct 3, 2007 at 08:34 PM
I am not a fan of Snyder, but it certainly didn't look to me that he pushed anyone. The egotistical cop used unnecessary force and needs to have the same done to him. It's a big deal when someone hurts a police officer, but no big deal when they do it to a civilian, we are people too, just don't own a uniform and a badge.

Posted by: Jeff Location: South Bend on Oct 3, 2007 at 08:28 PM
I agree with Jason, Dvorak doesn't care about what happened to Snyder! He only cares about the Police Officers of this area and that's screwed up! I never did like him and now that he's endorsed Lueke I sure as heck am not voting for him either, Dvorak is a scum bag!!

Posted by: Jason Location: Not Roseland on Oct 3, 2007 at 06:46 PM
I think that Dvorak should be recalled. I am not a fan of Snyder, however, he is human. It would appear from the footage that he was mistreated by police. The other officer is even shown trying to get Tiller to stop. For Dvorak to not even investigate or bring charges against this officer is unbelievable to say the least. This should not even have to go to a Grand Jury. I agree with Lee, I think Tiller should be taken off the streets until all investigations are complete.

Posted by: Mike Location: Michigan on Oct 3, 2007 at 06:39 PM
Ah, more roseland drama. So entertaining..

Posted by: Lee Location: South Bend on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:51 PM
I HOPE THE GRAND JURY COMES BACK WITH CHARGES ON JACK TILLER. HE SHOULD BE FIRED. HE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ALLOWED TO WORK UNTIL THEN. MOST OFFICERS WHO ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION ARE SUSPENDED.

Posted by: Nancy Location: South Bend on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:47 PM
Snyder refers to himself as Honorable??? Honorable my dying butt!

Posted by: Sam Location: Michigan on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:33 PM
That's OK. Snyder's big day in court is tomorrow. Remember way back, when he roughed up Penn?? Snyder might not be around too awfully long - or at least we can HOPE he isn't! Greta the Witch (Dorothy and her bad hair...lol) needs to find another "cash cow" to try and milk dry - its for sure she already did in Snyder.

Posted by: Chuck Location: Walkerton on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:30 PM
The words "David Snyder" and the word "Honorable" are contradiction are contradictions in terms and do not belong in the same sentence. Just mu opinion.....

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:21 PM
Roseland please just disappear off the map of Indiana. You're a disgrace to the state.

Posted by: EH Location: MI on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:14 PM
LOW LIFE JUST CAN'T STAY OUT OF THE NEWS!!

Posted by: AL Location: SB on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:00 PM
David Snyder should fire his secretary, everyone knows it should have been "The Dishonorable David Snyder".

Posted by: Mike Location: Niles on Oct 3, 2007 at 04:47 PM
The "Honorable" David Snyder? What a joke! how can someone that fails to comply with a court order to support his children and makes no action to get whatever job is available in order to support his children call himself honorable?

Posted by: Unknown Location: Roseland on Oct 3, 2007 at 04:37 PM
David and Dorothy Snyder please just leave town you are a disgrace to the community!