MIKE: Winter Outlook for 2011-2012
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MIKE: Winter Outlook for 2011-2012
Topic Author: Mike Hoffman
Posted: 6:02 PM Nov 1, 2011
Replies Posted: 33 comments
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One thing has definitely changed since last winter...the normals.  Every decade our “normals” are actually adjusted for the past 30 years. So since the 1970’s are no longer factored in, our normal amount of snow has dropped by almost 10” and our normal temperature warmed up by a degree. This does not mean it's global warming, as it could be that we are heading back into a 20 or 30 year cycle of more wintry weather.  We'll have to wait and see about that... 
Last winter was the 5th snowiest on record in South Bend. The biggest snow of the season was a whopping 37” of pure lake-effect. That was a freak snow that’s not likely to be repeated…while most areas all “around” South Bend had “only” 15”- 20”, the city, especially the west side, got hammered with twice that amount! The other thing about last winter was that it never really let up…it stayed cold …and that meant the snow stuck around. It was a great year for the ski industry and snowplow operators.
 Here’s what you may or may not want to hear…some of the same factors that affected last winter are expected again this time around.  We have to look to the oceans to try and figure out what the pattern will be this winter.  I’m going to start with a long term pattern in the north Pacific that lasts 20 to 30 years. This is why I think we may be heading into a pattern where winters are colder and snowier on average again.  The pattern is called the PDO, or Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Since 2008 it’s flipped back to the “cold” phase, which means colder weather for us. When we look back, this is the same phase as the winters from the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s. On average, we get about 10 MORE inches of snow during the cold phase than the warm one. Many of us remember some of those winters, like the record shattering 172” during the winter of 1977 and 78.
 The main factor, though, is La Nina, and even though last March, Dr. Hansen, a global warming proponent, was forecasting a coming “super” El Nino, that is NOT happening and we are slipping back to another La Nina. This means the water in the central Pacific is in its “cold” phase also, and it will stay that way since it only changes every season or 2. However, if it would become too strong, we would actually warm up later in the winter. So the “strength” of La Nina matters.
 Now we go to the wildcard for the coming winter…the water in the Atlantic Ocean. This is a setup called the NAO, or North Atlantic Oscillation, and it can change from week to week. Last winter, it stayed in the “cold” phase for most of the winter, which is rather unusual. It’s expected to start cold for the early part of winter, and then it may flip around a bit, meaning a warm-up or two possible later.
 So like I’ve been telling you since late summer, I’m expecting a harsh start to winter. After the holidays, though, there are some questions whether winter will let up at times or not. I factored in all the years with similar set-ups and came up with my forecast for this winter. 
Here are the specifics:
 
Temperatures average: 
25.8 degrees
New normal:  27.3
1.5 degrees COLDER than normal
 
Total Snow:  85"
New normal:  66.6"
18.4" MORE than normal
20" less than last year
 
Mike
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  • by lisa Location: south bend west on Feb 2, 2012 at 07:26 AM
    I have trees budding whats up with that?can we expect an early spring?
  • by NMA Location: South Bend on Dec 21, 2011 at 04:02 PM
    Can't wait for the phrase "Winter?? What winter?" I like what Marty said about michiana becoming a tropical paradise in 20 yrs! Only I wish it would happen in a couple of years. :)
  • by stubbydigit Location: granger on Dec 18, 2011 at 09:51 PM
    Mike, can you please let us know what is going on and why there is no snow in future? What is the least amount of snow for the year record for our area? please come out of hiding and talk to us!!
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      by Jerry on Dec 24, 2011 at 01:35 PM in reply to stubbydigit
      I agree stubby....Mike ya need to get off the "winter is on the way and just wait till this time next week / month" thing. I have lived in Michiana for 55 years and can say with authority that NEVER have we seen such a mild start to winter this late into the year. Chicago hasn't even seen an inch of snow yet! Yes....global warming is real and it is here. Mike, since YOU won't say it, I will....we'll be doing good to see 15 inches of total snowfall this winter. We will NOT see temps below 10 degree's and yes, summer will be hellish. The Mayans had / have it right.....our world as we have known it is coming to an end.
  • by dowagiac on Dec 17, 2011 at 02:11 PM
    Rmember Mike said,If anyone was listening after the Holidays. So i'm thinking january through March.
  • by Marty Location: South Bend on Dec 16, 2011 at 08:48 PM
    OK - can we (mike) please stop "weather mongoring" and understand that global climate change is here. I am not talking about "global warming". The simple fact is this - when we are 9" of precipitation above normal for the year, then the moisture is in the ground, not in the air. Our moisture would be picked up by winds and moved elsewhere, not here. It is possible that moisture from the west would be brought here, however west of us has been bone dry. In 20 years this area (michiana) will be a tropical paradise. If you have money, buy vacant land.
  • by Steve Location: Granger on Dec 16, 2011 at 06:13 PM
    For this area, has there ever been a winter that has had less than 3 inches of snow as of Dec 16???
  • by mike Location: Niles on Dec 14, 2011 at 06:01 PM
    i think you can cut the snow total in half at this point. there is no harsh start to winter . its the 14th of Dec all ready and only 3 inches of snow. nothing comming next week and does not look like any the week of Christmas either. to get 85 inches of snow we will need to get a minimun of 10 inches every week in Jan and Feb. not going to happen. FYI i put the cover back on my snowmobile and have not bought a trail sticker.
  • by Darlene Location: Mishawaka on Dec 14, 2011 at 01:38 PM
    Mike, if today's rain were snow...how many inches would it measure?
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      by Amber on Dec 16, 2011 at 11:36 AM in reply to Darlene
      I live in Plymouth and on Dec 14th, 2011 we got 1.76 inches of rain. If this were snow, it would be 17.6 inches of snow. Generally: 10 inches of snow melts down to 1 inch of rain. Hope that helps. However, Lake-effect snow usually forms under colder temperatures, so 20 inches of Lake-effect snow = 1 inch of rain. This explains why lake-effect is "fluffy". Just another point. Jan 8-9 2011 we got 38.2 inches of snow. This equalled 3.82 inches of rain.
  • by Rebecca Orphanidis on Dec 11, 2011 at 03:56 PM
    I think we were way off on the winter predictions this year. Just 2 inches of snow so far and now it is going to warm up to almost 50 degrees by midweek. I think just because it happened last year doesn't mean it will happen again. I think we will be lucky to get 45 inches of snow this year.
  • by Scott Location: Benton Harbor on Dec 1, 2011 at 04:51 PM
    I'm thinking that the talk of a harsh winter is overblown. The blocking pattern in Greenland isn't occurring like it has the past few winters, so the cold air is bottled up in Canada. I can't recall of a recent winter where we haven't had any decent snows by now here in the snowbelt area of Michiana. With another warm up over the weekend and only moderate cold the 2nd week of December, we'll already be into mid Dec with no substantial snowpack.
  • by Linda Location: Granger on Nov 28, 2011 at 02:38 PM
    I really hate the snow, except I like it for maybe a week at Christmas. The reason I hate it is because of the bad road conditions and those people driving out there like it's 70 degrees and dry pavement. Please everyone, have more patience and slow down. When the roads are bad my top speed is usually 30. I just let everyone pass me if they're in such a hurry.
  • by jerry Location: south bend on Nov 27, 2011 at 08:32 PM
    Well Mike, so far.....as of 8 pm Nov. 24th....winter has come in like a lamb, with a couple of days exceptions. So far. I suspect you are right about the harsh part, just a bit off on your timing. BUT....as a lifelong area resident, I know that weather conditions can and do come to a sudden end as in 5 minutes ago and go from one extreme to the other. You are far more right on than off so keep up the good work dude. And just for the record, I hope we are up to our waists in snow by Christmas. I'm just that way LOL!
  • by Hilah Location: Spouth Bend on Nov 27, 2011 at 09:07 AM
    I love snow and hope we get a good blizzard. There is nothing better in winter than to sit with a good cup of hot cocoa and watch the fallng snow. My dogs love playing in the snow.
  • by Tamara Location: Dowagiac,Mi on Nov 27, 2011 at 03:26 AM
    First of all, I love your accurate forecast & an awsome news crew. I am another one that doesn't like the winters up here. I live in Dowagiac, We get busted up here when the snow storms get really bad. I do not like icy roads. Winters are not my cup of tea.And another thing, please stress, do not walk on the ice at anytime during the winter. Take it from a mother that lost her son.
  • by Megan Location: Elkhart on Nov 26, 2011 at 03:56 PM
    Thanks for the forecast, Mike. I am not a fan of winter or snow, so I need to get myself psyched, I guess! LOL. I have worked in my home office for the last nearly 5 years and as of Monday will be driving back in to work on a daily basis again. Just in time for the snow to start hitting me. Lookin' forward to March!
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